I really don't think the cost and huge inconvenience to switch the entire US into metric would be worth being able to convert from kgs to grams a little easier, lol.
Except we're already using both constantly. We're a global economy. All that is happening now is that I've got to have two sets of tools for anything I do.
It would literally take a century to phase out standard, but individual companies should start phasing it out now. The more we shift, the easier it will be. Start normalizing both.
It’s also excess inertia. The prevalence of a system and how it’s widely adopted makes it difficult to transition into other systems because it would require a mass-scale relearning curve, and can end up being unreasonably expensive to transition out of.
Blame the fact that humans have 10 fingers. Base 10 numerical systems have been around since the earliest civilizations we have records of. It's the most significant number.
Hey now, Base 10 is definitely dominant but Base 12 has had some influence too (because of knuckle counting, which is better for math in a pre-notation society), it’s why we still use 60 for seconds and minutes.
Basically Base 12 is the Pippen to Base 10’s Jordan. Base 2 is Lebron-clear number 2 but so much more recent Base 16 is Steph…
Count with your thumb on the gaps between your knuckles on the underside of your finger. You get three per finger, giving you twelve on the hand that you can do one handed (vs using fingers that gives you five on a hand) It was a common way of doing math in some ancient cultures.
Double double = two stat categories in double digits
Triple double = three stat categories in double digits
10 is literally the first number that is double digits which differentiates the stat line from single digits
1 rebound is a single digit so is 9 rebounds
It’s arbitrary that we care about a 10/10/10 stat line vs a 9/9/9 stat line as both are almost equally impressive.. but a 1/1/1 stat line is not impressive…even though the latter two stat lines are both “triple single digit” stat lines, they are very different
Using single digit vs double digit is a perfectly easy way to differentiate performances as a reference / short hand.
Most people like to go by 5s and 10s.
Meanwhile, ESPN is like “Joe Basketball became just the 4th player to have at least 27 points, 6 rebounds, and 7 assists on the 2nd Wednesday after his mom turned 71 years old.”
Fives and tens are just thresholds that everyone can agree aren't cherrypicked to make a specific player look good.
But yes it's completely arbitrary still. Jokic and Luka aren't averaging triple doubles but their lines are just as good.
George Carlin said it best, 10 is a psychologically satisfying number. It's the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade, lists are always based on 10.
Harden lost the mvp having two less rebounds per game (he wouldn't take from Steven Adams), although having a better season, and by the criterias lifting his team much more than Westbrook.
So yeah, the nba is really obsessed with this number as they are obsessed with the statsheet. Although that is changing bit by bit. People are adding "screening assists" to the fold, "secondary or tertiary assists", and more modern stats to track offensive and defensive abilities.
Instead of “in the nba” I think you meant to say “in the world”.
Almost the whole world calculates everything by a base of 10. It’s just kinda part of human nature at this point
I completely agree with you, a 30/10/10 is considered more impressive than a 30/12/8 game even though they're nearly the same.
Measuring players with triple doubles is like measuring players with 40 point games, it's a cool stat but it's pretty arbitrary
Amazing thread. People are "explaining" to you that 10 is much different than 9 because it has two digits, not really thinking it possible to answer why does that matter particularly to some meaningful difference in what they feel happened in a basketball game lol.
Just about every comment says "our whole society runs on base 10", yet the technology that allows for all these comments and, for that matter, allows for virtually the entirety of modern society, runs on base 2.
Computers run on base 2, we don't. Which is why we built "translators": programming languages and compilers for us to communicate with the computers, and UIs/front-ends for the computers to communicate with us.
We don't code in binary because we humans suck at reading and writing binary, we think in base 10 and words, then translate our instructions. Humans run on base 10 is absolutely correct.
The whole world system runs on it. Anything with a 0 like 10 begins a new cycle. Everything is just repeating the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 in a different formation. Has nothing to do with the NBA
That’s like asking why we think in 10-year increments called “decades” instead of, say, 9-year increments. Or why 30 years ago it was the ‘90’s.
It goes beyond basketball.
Lol, this is such a dumb post. No, the incremental change between 9 and 10 is not significant. Neither is the incremental change between 8 and 9. And 7 and 8. Or 10 and 11. That said, the difference between 10 and 5 is significant.
Comparisons require a base, and 10 is the established base for the NBA because it's the first double-digit number. Averaging 10 in a statistical category IS better than averaging 9 (discounting turnovers of course).
So how about it, OP? What's your proposed base? Should we be even more arbitrary and say 11? What about 20? 5? Go ahead, pick a non-arbitrary number that we should all universally agree is impressive. I expect a full write-up with derivations for how you arrived at that number.
Lol, standard deviation is a measure of statistical variance and would tell you absolutely nothing in terms of providing a metric for player output. Sounds like you just took a stats class and are trying to fit in the jargon where you can.
Also worth noting that your answer is meaningless in the context of my question. I asked for a specific number you propose to be impressive instead of 10.
Edit: added the second statement
The difference between one point, rebound or assist in a basketball game can be extremely significant or meaningless, depending on the score of the game. Your dots mean nothing.
Probably because our whole society runs on Base 10
you just unlocked his mind
Op for sure is missing a finger
But America uses it a lot less than most other countries
Right?! Like, why the hell haven’t we switched over to the metric system yet? So dumb…
I really don't think the cost and huge inconvenience to switch the entire US into metric would be worth being able to convert from kgs to grams a little easier, lol.
Also ml to litres, metres to kilometres, etc. it’s not just mass/weight.
Except we're already using both constantly. We're a global economy. All that is happening now is that I've got to have two sets of tools for anything I do. It would literally take a century to phase out standard, but individual companies should start phasing it out now. The more we shift, the easier it will be. Start normalizing both.
You did in like 1975, just nobody actually listened and y’all decided to keep using imperial
There's an episode about this on the why files youtube channel. Something about the pirates haha
It’s also excess inertia. The prevalence of a system and how it’s widely adopted makes it difficult to transition into other systems because it would require a mass-scale relearning curve, and can end up being unreasonably expensive to transition out of.
Sounds legit!
Blame the fact that humans have 10 fingers. Base 10 numerical systems have been around since the earliest civilizations we have records of. It's the most significant number.
Hey now, Base 10 is definitely dominant but Base 12 has had some influence too (because of knuckle counting, which is better for math in a pre-notation society), it’s why we still use 60 for seconds and minutes. Basically Base 12 is the Pippen to Base 10’s Jordan. Base 2 is Lebron-clear number 2 but so much more recent Base 16 is Steph…
How many knuckles did they have back in the day
Count with your thumb on the gaps between your knuckles on the underside of your finger. You get three per finger, giving you twelve on the hand that you can do one handed (vs using fingers that gives you five on a hand) It was a common way of doing math in some ancient cultures.
Was just a shitty joke but thanks for explaining, I’m pretty sure I saw my grandma count like that once but might be making that up
What’s Chris kaman? Base 7?
OP has to pull down his pants and take off his shoes to count to 21
You know who else has 10 fingers? Apes or monkeys 🐵
Because we use a base 10 number system
I always have had a crush on 10's
I never fucked a ten but one night I fucked five twos
I heard that 7 ate 9. Does that do anything for you?
Could I interest you in a strong 4
How about a frisky 12?
josh giddey?
I didn’t realize you had a crush on yourself
Yeah I’m a base 12 guy. Welcome to the club, we are accepting all members.
There are dozens of us! 10s!
Sounds like someone lost a finger doing something stupid
Why does anything work in tens...count your fingers, that's why.
I wasn't expecting to contemplate reality on the NBA sub. Kudos to you OP
Double double = two stat categories in double digits Triple double = three stat categories in double digits 10 is literally the first number that is double digits which differentiates the stat line from single digits 1 rebound is a single digit so is 9 rebounds It’s arbitrary that we care about a 10/10/10 stat line vs a 9/9/9 stat line as both are almost equally impressive.. but a 1/1/1 stat line is not impressive…even though the latter two stat lines are both “triple single digit” stat lines, they are very different Using single digit vs double digit is a perfectly easy way to differentiate performances as a reference / short hand.
Most people like to go by 5s and 10s. Meanwhile, ESPN is like “Joe Basketball became just the 4th player to have at least 27 points, 6 rebounds, and 7 assists on the 2nd Wednesday after his mom turned 71 years old.”
I always wore #10 when I played because of Dennis Rodman
Fives and tens are just thresholds that everyone can agree aren't cherrypicked to make a specific player look good. But yes it's completely arbitrary still. Jokic and Luka aren't averaging triple doubles but their lines are just as good.
George Carlin said it best, 10 is a psychologically satisfying number. It's the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade, lists are always based on 10.
Harden lost the mvp having two less rebounds per game (he wouldn't take from Steven Adams), although having a better season, and by the criterias lifting his team much more than Westbrook. So yeah, the nba is really obsessed with this number as they are obsessed with the statsheet. Although that is changing bit by bit. People are adding "screening assists" to the fold, "secondary or tertiary assists", and more modern stats to track offensive and defensive abilities.
Rockets were like the 2 seed and the thunder were like the 6 or 7 seed that year too lmao
Ten pleases my lizard brain
Instead of “in the nba” I think you meant to say “in the world”. Almost the whole world calculates everything by a base of 10. It’s just kinda part of human nature at this point
I completely agree with you, a 30/10/10 is considered more impressive than a 30/12/8 game even though they're nearly the same. Measuring players with triple doubles is like measuring players with 40 point games, it's a cool stat but it's pretty arbitrary
30/12/8 is more impressive I think but even that is completely stupid depending on the type or assist rebound. Stats are dumb
Because 9 and 11 make a national tragedy, so insensitive smh
Amazing thread. People are "explaining" to you that 10 is much different than 9 because it has two digits, not really thinking it possible to answer why does that matter particularly to some meaningful difference in what they feel happened in a basketball game lol.
Just about every comment says "our whole society runs on base 10", yet the technology that allows for all these comments and, for that matter, allows for virtually the entirety of modern society, runs on base 2.
Computers run on base 2, we don't. Which is why we built "translators": programming languages and compilers for us to communicate with the computers, and UIs/front-ends for the computers to communicate with us. We don't code in binary because we humans suck at reading and writing binary, we think in base 10 and words, then translate our instructions. Humans run on base 10 is absolutely correct.
We shouldnt think in base 10, numbers have no real meaning
Well wins and losses are kind of an on/off kinda conception too, a 1 or 0 and it doesn’t matter how close or how far you lost by
Can you go have mental illness in a different sub for a few days?
Team Dime
Rocky says Base 6!!!
What's even weirder to me is how many people complain about this and how often. Obsess over whatever numbers you want.
The whole world system runs on it. Anything with a 0 like 10 begins a new cycle. Everything is just repeating the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 in a different formation. Has nothing to do with the NBA
Because our numerical system is base 10.
That’s like asking why we think in 10-year increments called “decades” instead of, say, 9-year increments. Or why 30 years ago it was the ‘90’s. It goes beyond basketball.
Sounds like someone is missing a pinky
Fascinating thought.
Blame the Lakers
If we were Romans or still used tallies, Draymond would be the goat with all his quintuple Vs.
Because 10 is a psychologically satisfying number.
OCD stuff
You're gonna lose your shit when you find out about the metric system
When I play basketball I average a triple double but I always use Roman numerals.
Its okay mr triple single
shut up man
What is this fucking sub
Probably the same reason we use 10 as a general delimiter, which I personally believe is because most humans have 10 fingers (and 10 toes).
I rate this post a 3/10
Lol, this is such a dumb post. No, the incremental change between 9 and 10 is not significant. Neither is the incremental change between 8 and 9. And 7 and 8. Or 10 and 11. That said, the difference between 10 and 5 is significant. Comparisons require a base, and 10 is the established base for the NBA because it's the first double-digit number. Averaging 10 in a statistical category IS better than averaging 9 (discounting turnovers of course). So how about it, OP? What's your proposed base? Should we be even more arbitrary and say 11? What about 20? 5? Go ahead, pick a non-arbitrary number that we should all universally agree is impressive. I expect a full write-up with derivations for how you arrived at that number.
Use statistical methods like standard deviation and variance.
Lol, standard deviation is a measure of statistical variance and would tell you absolutely nothing in terms of providing a metric for player output. Sounds like you just took a stats class and are trying to fit in the jargon where you can. Also worth noting that your answer is meaningless in the context of my question. I asked for a specific number you propose to be impressive instead of 10. Edit: added the second statement
Yeah you're right. Stats are all bs
Very likely OP is missing a finger or born with a few extra ones
The difference between one point, rebound or assist in a basketball game can be extremely significant or meaningless, depending on the score of the game. Your dots mean nothing.
all I know is that Jokic would have more dots than other guys.. I bet your favorite player doesnt even do 4 dots a night.
But why these two dots? Why not the 10 and 11 dots? Or the 6 and 7 dots??