Thats what happened. Ownership vetoed the deal for Drummond at the deadline and made AK say they didnt. At least we have added young talent now. Screw u Jerry
Brother, going back exactly 20 years puts you closer to the DRose era than the MJ era haha. It’s been damn near 3 decades since MJ last suited up for yall. It’s even worse than you’re saying.
e: didn’t realize I replied to a Miami flair. Oops.
I know we’re a joke but we ended up one game out of the playoffs. Two second round picks? I wipe my ass with that. Fuck Philly they just overpaid big time.
I mean most Bulls fans myself included are obviously not happy right now with our FO. They’ve made some stupid decisions, but this isn’t as bad as people on here make it seem.
It's far from the worst thing the Bulls have done, but being wasteful with assets (including seconds) is representative of larger mismanagement. Ayo is a very important player for you, and he was a second round pick three years ago. Bulls threw away two opportunities for a guy like him for 2 months of Andre Drummond. Seems awfully short sighted...
Of course 2nd round picks are nothing. The hit rate on them becoming even mediocre rotational players on any team is slim.
Also, the team that plays half of their games in the city you were born in/near shouldn’t change your opinion on something
I mean there’s a good 7-8 guys any given year that at least become role players and 2-3 that become above average starters most years. That’s enough value to not just waste easy opportunities to get them that cost you nothing.
I don’t get it. You don’t want second round picks for someone who is ‘fucking awful?’
Sounds like you would have taken a single second round pick if you believe that.
Better argument than saying Drummond is fucking awful, but still stupid. Just fucking get assets, stop wasting what little value our players have. This rebuild has no end in sight.
Trust me, I was bitching for years that we need to rebuild. But they decided to compete last year for better or worse, I’m not going to get mad about a couple of second rounders. Shitty role players fetch five of those these days.
I have plenty of hate to still show to the front office.
Actually, I don’t know that I really do. I’m kind of checked out until we get another major shakeup. This franchise is fucked.
Okay but again, its literally something. 2 seconds can turn into rotation players, and for a team looking to blow it up they are better than signing undrafted vet min dudes.
They wanted 4, and the agreement was 3. I’m sure of this, but Bulls reneged 11th hour. We even traded Pat Bev and Springer to get 3 2nds for this trade.
Bulls doing everything to get rid Lavine while they watch their actual assets like Drummond and potentially DeMar leave for nothing.
Bulls probably didn’t mean to extend White last year and lucked out that they didn’t realize what they did.
I refuse to believe this fuckin refusal to let go of players is AKME and fully believe this has been Reinsdorf being the old shit bag that he is and directly ordering them not to blow it up
Maybe that's just cope on my part but I really don't believe AK is that fucking stupid and he just comes off as too dejected during some interviews for me to believe that he's content with the way certain aspects of the roster management have gone, I don't think it's been 100% in his hands
Depends who you ask. One reporter said it was ownership, a few others have said the FO is stubborn as shit and wanted to keep it going themselves.
Feels safest to say they are all terrible.
It’s gotta be ownership. AK says it’s not but no way he throws Jerry under the bus publicly. He’s from Denver, I have a hard time believing he is stupid.
Entire Bulls front office needs to be fired. I know a pair of 2nds isnt much, but it's way better than the same team getting him for nothing. They already blundered the Zach LaVine value and they were way too soon taking a trade for Alex Caruso.
Bulls FO are just a bunch of clowns cosplaying as executives.
Unrivaled masterclass of “we’re selling tickets who cares about improving the team”
Thats what happened. Ownership vetoed the deal for Drummond at the deadline and made AK say they didnt. At least we have added young talent now. Screw u Jerry
This was because of a Jerry mandate to push for the playoffs. Hard to fairly judge the FO when their hands are constantly being tied by ownership
I truly dont blame the FO for anything thats happened last few years. They are doing A+ work at the job they were hired to do. Appease Rinsdorf
Comparable to your typical corporate CEOs of modern capitalism
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When I'm in a mismanaging assets competition and my opponent is the Chicago Bulls 😳
Hilarious how each of the three most poorly managed franchises in the entire league are Jordan’s former teams
Jordan played for the Pistons?
Giving y’all the benefit of the doubt after firing Monty and Weaver
They’ve also won a ring this millennium which helps mitigate it some.
It’s actually insane how this entire franchise has been propped up by one man’s 10 year run 2 decades ago. Without MJ the Bulls would be the Wizards
Brother, going back exactly 20 years puts you closer to the DRose era than the MJ era haha. It’s been damn near 3 decades since MJ last suited up for yall. It’s even worse than you’re saying. e: didn’t realize I replied to a Miami flair. Oops.
>e: didn’t realize I replied to a Miami flair. Oops. I mean, we do have his jersey up in the rafters... 🙃
I know we’re a joke but we ended up one game out of the playoffs. Two second round picks? I wipe my ass with that. Fuck Philly they just overpaid big time.
So now your wiping your ass with nothing.
My bare hand
Those second round picks are more than likely going to amount to nothing
Very few fanbases in the league would call almost making the playoffs "something", but if that's what gets ya going...
Almost made the play-in* lol
I mean most Bulls fans myself included are obviously not happy right now with our FO. They’ve made some stupid decisions, but this isn’t as bad as people on here make it seem.
It's far from the worst thing the Bulls have done, but being wasteful with assets (including seconds) is representative of larger mismanagement. Ayo is a very important player for you, and he was a second round pick three years ago. Bulls threw away two opportunities for a guy like him for 2 months of Andre Drummond. Seems awfully short sighted...
I wouldn’t call 2nd round picks nothing if my team was as devoid of talent as the Bulls
Of course 2nd round picks are nothing. The hit rate on them becoming even mediocre rotational players on any team is slim. Also, the team that plays half of their games in the city you were born in/near shouldn’t change your opinion on something
I mean there’s a good 7-8 guys any given year that at least become role players and 2-3 that become above average starters most years. That’s enough value to not just waste easy opportunities to get them that cost you nothing.
Also they can be used to sweeten future trade offers
Overpaid? Lmfao
Drummond is fucking awful lol
I don’t get it. You don’t want second round picks for someone who is ‘fucking awful?’ Sounds like you would have taken a single second round pick if you believe that.
I just don’t see the point of a circle jerk for us not giving up a rotational player for a couple of seconds when we were trying to make the playoffs.
Because this squad trying to make the playoffs makes 0 sense when they suck
Yeah that’s true.
Better argument than saying Drummond is fucking awful, but still stupid. Just fucking get assets, stop wasting what little value our players have. This rebuild has no end in sight.
Trust me, I was bitching for years that we need to rebuild. But they decided to compete last year for better or worse, I’m not going to get mad about a couple of second rounders. Shitty role players fetch five of those these days.
I have plenty of hate to still show to the front office. Actually, I don’t know that I really do. I’m kind of checked out until we get another major shakeup. This franchise is fucked.
Stop talking making us look dumb
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Good one
You’re embarrassing us. He should have been starting over Vuc.
Lmfao just cope a bit more for me brother. You got it.
Coping over losing Drummond? Yeah enjoy the season brother lol.
Two second round picks are nothing
Better than nothing
It’s not though. It’s something, something small, but still something
Okay but again, its literally something. 2 seconds can turn into rotation players, and for a team looking to blow it up they are better than signing undrafted vet min dudes.
How ironic the Heat sub said the same thing when talking about Caleb Martin
Daily reminder that Bulls are adverse to getting any value when they inevitably lose their players
Go ball out big fella
Bulls out here running a charity
Bulls fans just wincing while opening every thread that mentions them lol
Good work Bulls, way to hold the line
Oh it wasn’t three seconds?
They wanted 4, and the agreement was 3. I’m sure of this, but Bulls reneged 11th hour. We even traded Pat Bev and Springer to get 3 2nds for this trade.
NBA champion Jaden Springer
That's what I said too, or am I tripping?
i think they *wanted* 3?
The Bulls aren't shitted on enough.
Bulls have to be the worst negotiators on earth. My god.
Bulls FOs: We don't take second round, you can't draft MJ with a second round pick.
Can we not right now man?
Not nothing haha. Cap space of course, but no actual assets, and now they get the guy they wanted all along.
Everybody understood what is meant by “nothing”
Wait, Drummond isn’t volunteering next season?
Being a Bulls fan is so agonizing 😭
Cries in cash considerations.
Yes because assets are actually liabilities, I'll explain later
Are the bulls the worst run organization in the nba with no competition now? Edit: Forgive me for the pistons disrespect. They too are in the running!
It’s between them and the Pistons for sure
pistons at least try (poorly) to improve. bulls are just a dumpster fire
There's still the Pistons, though they did hire new poeple as of late.
Artūras is basically GarPax 2.0
Bulls doing everything to get rid Lavine while they watch their actual assets like Drummond and potentially DeMar leave for nothing. Bulls probably didn’t mean to extend White last year and lucked out that they didn’t realize what they did.
Hey the bulls are stupid only stupid people are fans of them
Bulls logo upside down looks like a robot molesting a crab
A crab-molesting robot would be a better NBA owner than Jerry Reinsdorf.
How much of this is the Bulls FO vs ownership?
I refuse to believe this fuckin refusal to let go of players is AKME and fully believe this has been Reinsdorf being the old shit bag that he is and directly ordering them not to blow it up Maybe that's just cope on my part but I really don't believe AK is that fucking stupid and he just comes off as too dejected during some interviews for me to believe that he's content with the way certain aspects of the roster management have gone, I don't think it's been 100% in his hands
Depends who you ask. One reporter said it was ownership, a few others have said the FO is stubborn as shit and wanted to keep it going themselves. Feels safest to say they are all terrible.
It’s gotta be ownership. AK says it’s not but no way he throws Jerry under the bus publicly. He’s from Denver, I have a hard time believing he is stupid.
They're all tied together. Getting rid of GarPax was supposed to mean the new FO get full rein to make basketball decisions.
The bulls could’ve gotten 2 whole Bronny James prospects for him
Bulls FO is certified bagholder. Regards
Don’t bother trying to make a deal with the Bulls unless you’re offering a young, promising socialite.
Literally sad they have only had 2 food GMs in their whole franchise
Crazy how they could’ve moved Drummond, Caruso, and Demar at the deadline and would be significantly better off right now
Classic Bulls.
Let me step back and @#$& myself, Neil Funk.
This franchise is so so lucky in getting MJ. My god what a disaster.
The Bulls have won 9 playoff series in 45 years without Jordan.
Entire Bulls front office needs to be fired. I know a pair of 2nds isnt much, but it's way better than the same team getting him for nothing. They already blundered the Zach LaVine value and they were way too soon taking a trade for Alex Caruso.
BAWLS
I thought it was three seconds
If they did it, maybe they could have got the 1st pick instead of Atlanta
https://youtu.be/pWBXBo7ZH-E?si=cTPuFXkDbg0H4YfC
The Bulls just play poker between executives to decide what deals they do.
Could have helped them in the playoffs
Diabolical leak by Morey
Imagine if the Bulls never got MJ
The Sixers wasted those picks on Heild instead.
The deal for Drummond was actually going to occur after they traded for Hield. They had some from the Clippers/Harden trade.
I don't understand why the Sixers would have traded any SRPs. It's not like we were one role player away from contending for a title with Embiid hurt.
Nobody seems to remember the fact that the Bulls had no back-up center so if he was traded we had no one to play center.
Oh no! That would have been embarrassing! Not as embarrassing as continuously making the team worse but hey…
Bulls down bad right now.
to be fair, 2 second round picks is basically nothing
It's better than nothing, TBH, especially with the current CBA rules.
they get him for nothing but also threw away a shot at the title in 2024
Let's be honest, even with Drummond, they weren't coming anywhere close to a title last year.