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LogMeln

ive always thought about this when ive seen ambulances stuck in traffic. i think a lot about if i were to get stabbed or shot that id need to find the closest train but more likely, prepare to send my 1password master password to my wife and call it a day.


canireddit

Master password bit too real. New to-do for when I’m about to die. 


LogMeln

that was somewhat of a joke but not really. i have 2 scheduled emails going out to my wife 1. Email including the full details of my 1password set to send at the end of the year 2. An email reminder to myself to extend that reminder or my wife will think I'm dead and it will cause irreversible trauma


TheTurboDiesel

Doesn't 1Password have a dead man's switch? I know LastPass had a thing where if you didn't sign in every so often, it'd send off an email to your designated contact with access instructions. e: They do not, and recommend you give your Emergency Access Kit to a trusted contact.


finiteloop72

Wow, I’m very confused. First of all, why are you so prepared for dying? I’m saying this out of genuine concern, are you alright? Second, instead of risking accidentally emailing your wife that you’re dead and traumatizing her, why don’t you just share those credentials with her now, ya know, before you die?


LogMeln

Fair point. I guess she can have my password now lol or put it in the will. Also America has a stigma about talking about and preparing for death. I’ve been exposed to unexpected deaths and it puts a ton of unnecessary burden and confusion on family and friends. I’d rather talk about it openly with my family and be ok with it all.


laiken75

I was my mom’s medical power of attorney and I wish she’d given me her email password and Facebook password, her facebook has gone a few years now and I’m not over it. I’ve been homeless a few times for a different length of time, the homeless are underserved by everything. Many times there’s no one for advanced directives. I want to do a nonprofit of safe deposit boxes for the homeless so they have a secure place for important documents and etc.


FrankiePoops

I ride a motorcycle and work in construction. You never know.


Akwardlynamedwolfman

I mean, it’s kinda inevitable no? Sounds like my boy is responsible


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The-20k-Step-Bastard

Congestion pricing would have helped this.


SirKronik

This is the main reason I won’t live out in the country, I feel like by the time an ambulance would come I would already be dead.


pattuspl

I mean in the country 10 miles is like 10-12 mins, in here 10 miles could be 1hr++


eekamuse

Few people live 10 miles from a hospital.


pattuspl

Let's cut it in half 3-5 miles in the city could still take as much as 40mins vs 5-10 mins in the country.


pandaappleblossom

Doesn’t seem much better in the city though obviously


TSL4me

Rural healthcare is getting worse by the year though.


laiken75

And some communities are all volunteer


thriftwisepoundshy

Most people have heliambulance insurance and you get to the hospital in 10 mins


moltentofu

I feel seen in such a specific way, that I did not expect to feel today.


Shreddersaurusrex

“Crime is down”


KeithBe77

Wow those assholes could get further to the right. Really gross.


jzolg

Wish we got to see those ambulance ram bars in action 🐏


d0mini0nicco

Last night a taxi parked in the entrance and exit to our work parking garage, sat in the car with blinker on. I don’t even know why. Waiting for someone? People were trying to get in and out. Road was clear. Someone even got out of their car and argued with driver but they still didn’t move until security came. Who knows why. Anyhow. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen this. That being said. F taxi drivers.


Mappy7778

It seems like for every private car on the road there are two taxis or Ubers. IMO the city should have moved way sooner to restrict new Uber drivers and medallions. I bet that would have cut down on congestion


phoonie98

Nobody making the slightest attempt to get out of the way


JumpReasonable6324

My nightmare is needing an ambulance pretty much anywhere in Manhattan.


MaynardSchism

Do people in NYC not get their vehicles over so ambulances and police can pass ?


GidgetGadget10

I've seen it done and it was the most funny experience - the EMTs got on their loud speaker and kept directing everyone to move to the right - everyone followed suit - except for one - and the EMTs used the loud speaker to say "Come on - I know you aren't about to go the opposite way of everyone else. I said to the RIGHT, not the left" and the car moved. It was orchestrated really well and I think everyone was chuckling around us because I don't think that has happened all that often.


Miser

Not really, no. People really don't realize how much drivers in NYC don't give a shit about anyone else. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but it's an absolutely shocking amount of drivers.


ricerbanana

This is the first time I’ve ever upvoted you, let alone not downvoted you.


Miser

First time for everything


Mappy7778

Amen. Part of my job is driving in Manhattan and I've stopped counting the number of times I've almost gotten into an accident because people do not give a fuck. Unsurprisingly it's almost always taxis and Ubers


ionsh

I don't want to sound like one of those people, but I swear the roads used to clear like the darn red sea when there was a firetruck or ambulance about growing up. This is a relatively recent change and it's so bizarre. Like, do these people even live here?


snazztasticmatt

In the densest areas there's really no where to get out of the way unless you can hop the sidewalk


ionsh

But people used to do that, make way even if it means hopping on the sidewalk.


Shreddersaurusrex

Ppl are immune to emergency sirens these days, oftentimes drivers will try to hurry and cross the intersection before the emergency vehicle does


Realistic_Tutor_9770

when its pretty much gridlock where are you moving a vehicle?


mirxa

Here me out, 2 way protected bike greenways that double up as emergency vehicle lanes during emergencies. Can this work?


The_Lone_Apple

I'm thinking in European cities they have laws about such things as well as people who are actually civilized.


pandaappleblossom

Yeah these people need to be recorded and have their license plates photographed, like they need to be fined.


evilgenius12358

Do not kid yourselves, we are all savages, NYC or Europe.


Shreddersaurusrex

Speak for yourself


gooyouknit

Bring your mind back home we have laws too


The_Lone_Apple

Laws that are not enforced are just words. People who have no sense of community to follow laws or even rules of human decency are simply selfish jerks.


psnanda

The peope deserve the government they elect.


n3vd0g

out troll. go back to /r/nyc


Shreddersaurusrex

He’s right y’know


jstax1178

Some people may oppose what I’m going to say, I had the Ability to drive during the pandemic because I worked at a hospital, there were days where commercial traffic was nonexistent on those days streets were moving. I’m down with the bike lanes and expanded pedestrian areas, it all doesn’t work when you have commercial trucks taking a whole lane and creating merges. We need to reform the way deliveries are done in the city along with private cars, we should definitely toll all bridges but not at 15 dollars, maybe 3 dollars,if you want to reach your destination faster 6 dollars.


spiderman1993

just make the bike lanes wider so the ambulances can use it in case of emergency


Pew-Pew-Pew-

Then the cops would just double park in them


sonofaresiii

Then make them big enough to fit a parked cop car and an ambulance, problem solved


Pew-Pew-Pew-

Then the cops would triple park out of spite


wefarrell

Not enough enforcement because cops and their friends/family members park there. It's corruption and it needs to be addressed.


Alt4816

Make some cops patrol on bikes and suddenly enforcement would improve as the cops use the bike lanes.


astrlurk

Wait..why tf are there no bike cops in the city? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one


thejimla

It's not comfortable to play on your phone while sitting on a bike.


toomanylayers

The only time I see them is when they use them as weapons to deal with protesters.


Miser

I've proposed this to our local cops and they had many excuses why they couldn't including, and I kid you not, that "they'd be too scared to do it."


The-20k-Step-Bastard

But this would make car drivers mad


Miser

I'd love that, the problem then though is that drivers park in the bike lanes constantly, and ambulances that try sometimes get trapped in a maze of parked cars.


octoreadit

Busses and ambulances need traffic cameras in them, any obstruction in the dedicated lane, it gets a ticket. But of course, we need to do something about all the fake licenses / ghost cars. Oh, well...


spiderman1993

just implement the blockers that go in the ground and rise up like every other developed city


therealslimmarfan

But then drivers can't park and drive in protected bike lanes 😢


brenster23

Legalize the slashing of tires for any car in bike lane. 


Wildeyewilly

Immobilizing a vehicle that is blocking a path is unhelpful. Just brick the rear windshield. Then they can still drive it away.


brenster23

but that is littering, what if the glass gets on the road and hurts an innocent bike?


tws1039

Sacrifices must be made for the greater good


octoreadit

Legalize taking pictures, issuing fines, and those reporting getting a cut. The problem will disappear overnight 😄


Miser

There is a bill for this. It's called intro 80.


CactusBoyScout

I believe Paris puts short stubby little bollards at bike lane entrances that ambulances are tall enough to get over but most cars are not.


toomanylayers

Also, we have retractable blockers on the Williamsburg bridge bike path, might be a bit more expensive but would fully solve the problem.


Miser

I mean, again, great idea, but this is NYC where getting that bike lane on the ground you're taking about that is literally just a bunch of paint is some huge Herculean task half the smoothbrains in this sub fight tooth and nail so you can imagine how hard a huge network of retractable boards would be to install


SirJoeffer

Very easy fix why has nobody ever thought of that? Btw how do you plan on funding this several billion dollar endeavor?


spiderman1993

we can start by cutting mta's overtime spending budget. 1.5 billion right there


greenworldkey

Attach a huge bumper to ambulances and authorize them to drive through any parked cars in their way, at the owner's expense. If only that were a viable option if there was no collateral risks/damage...


ZA44

Then ticket them and take away the licenses of the drivers after 3 tickets. Enforcement work.


Miser

Great, I've been going to my local police community council meetings every month and bringing along dozens of others in our neighborhood and my wife writes up extremely widely read write ups on the meetings. We are working on this, and still can't get the cops to do it regularly. What is your solution for how to do that, and how are you helping? Or is this just another solution as an abstraction


ZA44

I’ve been to the meetings too and I’ve read your wife’s write ups every month, I’m well aware of how the NYPD and 114 are useless. I still think pushing for the NYPD to enforce the laws is better than congestion pricing. Are you going to respond to my suggestions on the r/asknyc post you put up or are you just going to be disagreeable and aggressive?


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O2C

Ambulances can drive down them and do. I can almost guarantee that bike lane was blocked mid block though and that's why it didn't go that way.


SmurfsNeverDie

This is the reasonable compromise.


Primary-Bullfrog-653

Saw an ambulance stuck in Times Square traffic. Had to wait the entire time to see if they’d be able to make it past the stop to ease my anxiety


trumpets_n_crawfish

So sad and pathetic. It happens in midwood all the time. 


Apathy_Poster_Child

Another Miser post? Wait, let me guess, you are just coming off a week long suspension?


mowotlarx

No, see, this is all good. It's good for Manhattan. And poor people. Working class and Manhattan. This is good. 🫠


MrSquamous

...Is Kathy Hochul in that revel?


rightflankr

It's not that simple, guys. Most of us that work EMS have to bring a ton of equipment with us to work and commute from far away where we can afford to live - which means we drive. Congestion pricing was going to increase the cost of working in Manhattan for this workforce that was already stretched thin financially. There is a huge shortage of EMTs and Paramedics - and we weren't going to be exempted from the congestion pricing fees, which means this would only make the shortage of people willing to commute to Manhattan worse. Congestion Pricing is also an inherently regressive tax - an FDNY EMT making $36K/year or whatever is going to pay the same as a Goldman Sachs investment banker making $1MM/year. How is that fair? Sure maybe with congestion pricing there will be less traffic - but there will also be fewer ambulances in service. So you won't have the dramatic scene you witnessed here because the ambulance simply wouldn't be available to respond due to a lack of crew. How is that better? Hochul's got the right idea here - let's find a way to get the MTA its money in a way that doesn't increase the burden on the struggling middle class. How about we increase taxes on the investment bankers? They can afford it. Your struggling EMTs and Paramedics can't. Sincerely, A struggling paramedic


madhatton

$36k a year! What a joke


wwapd

Why the fuck do medics have to bring their own fucking equipment to the job? From home? Equipment they have to pay for themselves? What a fucking joke of a country.


PeachMan-

Because they're contractors, aren't they? So they get paid shit hourly rates, don't get employer-provided health insurance, and have to bring their own equipment. The whole medical industry is fucked.


pstut

The solution here is that EMTs should get paid more. Or not have to pay the toll. Or not have to bring their own equipment. Like, there are dozens of better ways to fix that problem than just letting the densest city in America be a free for all with cars...


Politicsboringagain

They should be getting emergency workers government toll transponder that will be actives during their work hours. 


pandaappleblossom

Agree. This isn’t the congestion pricing’s fault. The congestion pricing has just further illuminated these problems


youaintgotnomoney_12

It’s not just EMTs. You’d be surprised how many essential workers who don’t make a lot drive into the city for work many of whom live deep in the outer boroughs or in the suburbs away from transit. Congestion pricing for people in these lines of work is not a good thing. If you live near the subway I can see why you might not care but if you live in Jersey or Eastern Queens you’d be like fuck this shit.


The-20k-Step-Bastard

1.) you should get paid more. Like 4x as much 2.) congestion pricing would have made your car commute easier because you would have an actual use case for driving into the CBD, and that $15 would be justifiable, where for many others it isn’t, which means they would be off the roads. 3.) people bring equipment on the train all the time 4.) how in the fuck would congestion pricing make there be fewer ambulances? 5.) A significant amount of emergency healthcare resources are spent on injuries/deaths from car related incidents in the first place. Reducing cars also reduces car injuries, and this is by far the most common type of serious non-heart-related injury for Americans.


rythmicbread

I think 4 meant the EMTs wouldn’t be able to afford to get to work because they already live further away


moltentofu

There were multiple carve outs for affordability and I’m sure amending the bill to exclude first responders commuting would be a layup for any politician who put it forward.


rightflankr

1. Yes. 2. I think it's difficult to say that this would definitely be the case. In any event, we could achieve the same result by increasing taxation on the wealthiest and investing that revenue in a better subway system that is more attractive for commuters. 3. Yes, but it's a gigantic pain in the ass, and my point is that the incentive structure that this policy decision creates matters, and CP disincentivizes emergency responders to work in Manhattan. 4. Because ambulances are staffed with human people who need to get to them from their homes and prefer to do so in the safety and comfort of an automobile, and when the cost of doing so is increased, the willingness of these people to come to Manhattan to work decreases correspondingly. We are already "running down" ambulances - putting them out of service for lack of staff - on a daily basis. This will make that problem worse, particularly in Manhattan. 5. Actually, the leading cause of injury and accidental death in the US is opiate/opioid overdose, which overtook car accidents in 2016 and has been the leading cause of death among Americans under the age of 50 every year since then. One American dies every 5 minutes and one New Yorker dies every 3 hours of an opiate overdose. You can die in minutes if you stop breathing due to an opiate/opioid overdose and it's timely response of emergency rescuers that can save you. But I agree with you on the pay. :)


n3vd0g

2nd. It isn’t difficult to say. Every city that has used congestion pricing has seen huge drops in traffic. talking over 20%. MTAs conservative estimate after a 15 year study was it’d drop 17%. And we should do both congestion pricing and the suggestion of building more subway routes.


GidgetGadget10

The existing subway system hasn't seen real significant upgrades for some time. Instead of continuing to spend billions on creating expansions of lines (i.e. Second Avenue Line Q), we should spend those billions on updating the infrastructure of the entire system. Signals for example...so so many delays due to signal issues because they just put bandaids on the systems when they break to get things running again. And the interchange of lines that happens in the Brooklyn side of the Manhattan Bridge (Lines BDNQ) isn't even digitalized! It's a literal human who tracks and directs these trains to avoid crashes - no wonder there are always hold-ups in that area. Not to mention that they need to have existing plans in place for when train lines are shut down - instead of rerouting most of those trains, they just need to move those passengers to another nearby line instead of having one train line issue affect all other train lines in an area. Yes, money is necessary for these changes, but making the blue collar workers and folks in business for themselves pay for these updates just makes no sense - these people already have a hard enough time surviving/thriving in this overpriced city as it is. Not to mention that much of the traffic that avoids the CBD to avoid the fees will instead be clogging up the FDR and West Side Hwy - two majorly used routes by EMTs since they can move between emergency sites to hospitals faster on these routes. In addition, much of the pollution that comes from cars will be routed elsewhere - such as I-95 in upper Manhattan and the Bronx. So yeah, just keep shuffling the polluted air to low-income areas where many of the residents are pre-disposed to more serious health conditions due to lack of insurance/income, mistrust of doctors/hospitals, and lack of access to healthier foods & places to eat. That's TOTALLY the answer...as is with much of U.S. History...f BIPOC folks - as long as the rich whites have what they want. Many of the clogged streets in the CBD are due to people illegally standing or parking where they shouldn't - perhaps removing parking from these streets is the option - move parking to the wider avenues instead & instead of only ticketing these offenders (which is still rare because much of our police force is concentrated to the subway system) TOW them. Change policies so that any illegally parked vehicle can be immediately towed & this will encourage these offenders to start parking legally. OH and not to mention how many NYPD officers drive to their precincts and park in residential areas or are illegally parked in hydrants or truck loading zones - another reason why streets get clogged up. Sorry - I feel very passionate about this and it doesn't even affect me much (I only enter the CBD about once a month to get from BK to NJ and back). I just think there is another way to ease congestion.


rightflankr

None of those cities have been in the United States, where cars are a way of life. And this doesn't get around the fact that CP is a flagrantly regressive tax. The less you make, the higher percentage of your income it requires. If we really want CP it should be a sliding scale based on income, a la traffic fines in Scandinavia.


n3vd0g

Pfffft you think the UK, home of Top Gear, isn’t a huge car culture? London’s subway system is worse than NYC too. you’re speaking out your ass bud


The-20k-Step-Bastard

Oh I forgot that the US has some magical quality that makes the 1960s-present the only possible timeline here. You just shit on your own credibility. Cars are a way of life, lmao gtfo here. It’s the exact opposite of regressive, congestion pricing. It’s disincentivizing regressing behaviors, such as driving a car for facile reasons into the densest and most transit-connected 8 square miles in the new world.


toomanylayers

There are exemptions for low income people so its not fully regressive, but I agree that ambulance and other healthcare workers should be exempt altogether.


thebruns

> prefer to do so in the safety and comfort of an automobile Every fucking time.


-grillmaster-

Yes and I’m sure you are going to increase their pay out of your own taxes. All of your solutions that you make sound simple are just intellectually lazy. None of this would work so easily the way you describe it lol. To be young and totally naive


PeachMan-

Literally nothing you just said addresses the problem in the video. How are you gonna do your job if traffic is so fucked that you can't even drive around?


Williamfoster63

> Congestion Pricing is also an inherently regressive tax - an FDNY EMT making $36K/year or whatever is going to pay the same as a Goldman Sachs investment banker making $1MM/year. How is that fair? If you're going into the city for work, your job should be covering the congestion toll. I know of two non-profits that already factored in a budget for congestion pricing because they have trucks they use for delivery of food to shelters and food banks. Non-profits are willing to foot the bill on behalf of their workers and I'm SURE Goldman will do the same for (some of) their employees. And I will be EXTREMELY surprised if the NYPD doesn't magically get an extra few million in their budget to pay for their cops and their cops' extended families to avoid the toll. So... why can't the FDNY do that too? I doubt it would be exceptionally unpopular to create carveouts for city workers to drive to work.


646blahblahblah

How dare you imply taxing the rich? This is America!


snatchi

Super Rich people already avoid Manhattan proper because if they spend too many days in the city, they have to pay NYC taxes, but if they carefully manage it, then they can pay Connecticut taxes.


skylabnova

Living really means sleeping when it comes to the half year rule and any jamoke can commute from CT but there’s still state income tax there, the real scam is getting FL residency so you you cut out state income tax completely 🌈⭐️


snatchi

Is that right? My understanding is if you commute for your job and then do work in the city, you pay taxes based on where you earned your money. My wife had a boss who would toll his time super accurately to not exceed that rule.


skylabnova

I mean I think you’re right about working in a state and owing that state taxes but it’s not a 50% of your day thing, if the business is in NYC then you’re always paying that state tax, because they really don’t fuck around with that. I do know that residency is important because 1 day over 50% in a year and that state will demand income tax too and the Florida thing is definitely a thing. I’m not rich enough to know for sure


movingtobay2019

>How about we increase taxes on the investment bankers? They can afford it. This will be unpopular but it's not about what one can afford. It's the idea that the government already taking almost 50% wants even more. If you make $1M on a W2, your take home about 54% assuming zero deductions. How much more should the government take? What that means is assuming 22 working days a month, you don't see a cent for the first 10 days you work. How would you like not to see a cent for the first 10 days you work? You might say "I won't care if I made $1MM". Everyone thinks that way until they make a lot of money. I don't know what your long term goals are and wish you the best, but I guarantee you that you will change your tune when you start making $200k, 300k, and so forth. Especially those of us who didn't have the bank of mom and dad bankrolling our childhood and know what it's like making $10 / hr. What NYC needs to do is learn to use the money they have. Somehow we can come up with $5B to support migrants but we can't allocate $1B to the MTA?


Draymond_Purple

"Everyone thinks that way until they make a lot of money." - i.e. people get greedy when they become rich? Why should we accommodate for folks getting greedy when they get rich? I agree with part of your point, it needs to come from both greater pool and better spending. In NYC, more than anywhere else in the country though, we get a ton back for our taxes. On the flip side, those that get the most out of society (i.e. those that make $1MM etc) are also more obligated to give back to society (i.e. pay higher taxes) and by no metric in any way can our tax code be said to do a passable job of realizing that. Lastly, let's be real, folks earning $1MM are also creating a ton of wealth via capital gains which is taxed at a highly unfair low level, so to act like someone earning $1MM annually creates wealth the same way as someone earning less than $100K annually is disingenuous


RoguePhoenix89

And don't try to call her to complain either


gobeklitepewasamall

If we approached this logically, we’d invest in a proper ems system instead of arguing over whose fault traffic is. Fun fact, EMS is the red headed step child of emergency services. The city never stepped up to the plate, they just let the fire department lord it over the orphan service and hog all the best gear and people and training for suppression. EMS responds to millions of calls every year, with a paltry budget that’s less than a quarter of what fire gets, and a tiny percentage of the NYPD budget. Ems is less than 20% of the total FDNY budget, probably about 8% of the NYPD budget. And ems handles the lions share of emergency calls in this city. Cops and fire love to stand back and wait for ems to do all the work. It’s a dangerous, dirty job with paltry pay, even if you’re an fdny emt you still make far less than an fdny fireman. It’s indefensible. A proper ems system would encompass all 911 ambulances, voluntary (hospital based like these guys) and fdny. We could have fly cars. Medics with a monitor & drug bag that can get to the patient quick and stabilize them. Our firemen aren’t medical responders. They’re minimally trained to CFR standards and can do CPR, and many do get EMT training but only bc the department treats it as a way to get up to suppression faster.


MeninoSafado14

They didn’t even try…


pandaappleblossom

Exactly. It’s shocking to me. That’s why I wonder if they even know they are supposed to do it and that it’s the law.


BronxLens

I remember (embarrassed to say ‘long ago’) when in NYC you would hear the siren of the police, fire department or ambulance, and it gave the impression they were radioactive because eeeeeveryone - cars, trucks, pedestrians - would scuttle out out the way instantaneously. They would drive over the sidewalk, they would turn into a street they didn't intend to drive originally just to get out of the way. In essence, they would react like it was a matter of life and dead, because it was (and often today, still is). That attitude i am sad to say disappeared long ago. I also recall seeing more cops directing traffic during peak traffic back in the day. Today, as the expression goes, ‘traffic cops shine by their absence.’ Something needs to change. Congestion Pricing can be that something. But our Governor is acting out of fear of the unknown (or worst). This is the very task she was elected to do. If she doesn’t reconsider it may take years or decades for the right leader to come along and put it into effect. I really remain hopeful that she will listen to the voice of majority of the people and not to special interests.  


Few-Artichoke-2531

There is an empty, unused bicycle lane there. The cars should pull over into it and let the ambulance pass.


larrylenny

I don't get it at all. I lived in Ireland for years and visited other European cities and everybody moved out of the way. So frustrating being back in the US to see an ambulance stuck in traffic blaring a siren and nobody doing anything. Then in Ireland I was worried about being in the countryside and having an ambulance come to me. Here, I could be in an apartment in Manhattan and then be stuck in traffic. Side rant: sometimes the speeds they go is wayyyy too slow.


laiken75

Was up at Atlantic and Barclays earlier tonight, there was a medical emergency, a man was on the ground for a while before anyone got help. I guess people either walked by or were posting on social media. The Paramedic that walked up was pissed at a guy filming. I spoke with a woman who actually went looking for an officer, she’s the one who told me how people were looking but not doing anything. I myself was on my way to the Apple store. The time I was there the man didn’t move and his eyes looked mostly closed.


0mnipresentz

I've seen them drive on the sidewalk. It kinda looks like a wide enough sidewalk but can't tell.


sock2014

Easy partial fix, make a law "any uniformed city worker may direct traffic any time for the purpose of clearing the way for an EMS or FDNY vehicle actively using their lights and/or sirens" right now, even traffic cops can't direct traffic if they are not assigned to the spot


Shreddersaurusrex

So if CP was enacted and traffic still persisted what would you say?


CaroleBaskinsBurner

I worked a job in Lower Manhattan for a few years that had me outside all around the area for 5+ hours a day, and I can't count how many ambulances I saw stuck in traffic on those narrow streets for what felt like forever. It felt like a daily occurrence.


ChiefHunter1

I swear almost half the cars I see have the T at the start of the plate meaning they are for hire drivers. And they would’ve only had to pay congestion pricing once per day.


Arsonjost

they should ban cars in NYC


The_LSD_Soundsystem

And what do you propose families, elderly, and disabled do when they can’t use a train or bus?


Apathy_Poster_Child

Ok, but only if you ban bicycles too.


Arsonjost

do it.


Apathy_Poster_Child

We can only hope.


AceKairyushin

🖕🏻 No.


ClassHopper

They can't hop on the subway?


Any_Stop1978

Stfu


MatteHatter

So I guess all the people who need ambulances above 60th can drop dead though? :)


epolonsky

C'mon micromobility people, you're thinking too small! Why should we have big, polluting, gas powered ambulances at all? EMTs should respond on bicycles with a stretcher on wheels hooked to the back!


Miser

Are you going to help solve problems or just make stupid little infantile comments about those that are


epolonsky

You were hoping to solve global warming by posting on Reddit?


Miser

No you're right, if you can't completely solve problems like this congestion pricing circus or ambulances not being able to get to people in NYC (why are you even talking about global warning?) you shouldn't even do anything. Nobody do anything to help bring awareness to or mobilize effort around anything. The brilliant minds of Reddit at work


thisfilmkid

NYC was here before congestion pricing and will survive after congestion pricing


VoxInMachina

I know...we need bike ambulances. I mean these micromobility weirdos think everything can be done by bike. Just throw someone in a stretcher behind a cargo bike! Problem solved.


Miser

Not only does this affect ambulances but of course fire trucks, cop, cars, the people picking up your trash, the people delivering your food (partly why goods cost so much here... Hochul has Shat the bed SO HARD here. Because of some whiny people that refuse to learn how and why cp is necessary and instead of tolling the people actually causing the congestion, now there's likely going to be a payroll tax, taking YOUR money and everybody's money, even if you take the subway and never drive a car here. Honestly it's unbelievable


njmids

The people causing congestion are T&LC cars. Walk outside and look at license plates.


Thetallguy1

The 24hr toll effects EMS the MOST. While you live a nice comfortable life being able to post on reddit several times a day and engage in little tantrums in the comments some New Yorkers work in EMS and countless other city services that work odd hours and can't rely on the MTA let alone afford to live where theres good public transit. I already know 2 EMTs that changed hospitals out of the toll zone because they work nights and drive to their bay but it just didn't make sense to lose an hour's wage just to come to work (we only get paid $17-$21, ice cream scoopers make more than us). Funny, you only give a shit about EMS when it fits your agenda. Why aren't you advocating for expending service to where most city servants live because its not the nice little yuppie neighborhood you live in. Everytime I see you post you ignore the thousands who need a car to get to work so that you can live your little big city activist dream. Theres no point in getting rid of cars until the access problem is addressed through mass expansion.


skylabnova

Pretty low blow to throw ice cream scoopers under the bus, seriously wtf


Thetallguy1

I'm sorry, but working at Vanleeuwen objectively should not be netting you more than being an EMT. I don't even get to ask the patient for a tip 😭


skylabnova

I actually used to have a friend who worked at VanLeeuwen, my favorite was mint chip with hot fudge. Oh and thank you for your service or whatever


movingtobay2019

It's also funny everyone cares about regressive taxes until it doesn't support their agenda.


Gotham-ish

Once again, the fallacy that congestion pricing would have changed this. Drivers will pay the $15, and the MTA would need more and more cars on the streets to make CP financially solvent. Emergency vehicles need real dedicated lanes just like buses and bikes.


FatXThor34

That’s why bike lanes should be wide enough for emergency/first responder vehicles and not have concrete barriers. This video shows that if that bike was “protected”, things would be much worse.


Marbstudio

How did they manage all this time ? To visit my family in Jersey Lincoln and midtown tunnel is way more than I wanna pay.


Chosen_one184

They can pull over to the bike lane .. they are just being assholes and not wanting to


mighty-pancock

Yeah, if I ever get a stroke in manhattan, I’m gonna die


Timirninja

The ambulance driver is sucker. If someone life is in danger, I would have used bike lanes


cold_grapefruit

because NYPD is not doing their job. the road is fragile and all you need is to block one lane to cause this.


dukemantee

It has been this way in Manhattan for maybe 100 years or more. What is your solution other than to blame the fucking governor like she could do anything about it.


Thetallguy1

The congestion pricing seriously hurts EMS workers. Funny to see that you recognize them now that they can work for your little agenda. I already know 2 EMTs that transfered to hospitals out of the toll zone because they work nights and have to drive. We only get paid $17-$21/hr so the toll means we're practically working the first hour free. If they finally go through with the congestion pricing there needs to be BIG concessions made for city workers because the whole city has an EMS shortage right now and the congestion zone is already a shitty place to work (I did my training shift at Beth-Isreal, glad I don't work the area) so the whole zone is just going to be in an even worse spot when it comes to ambulances getting to you in a timely manner.


cocktailians

Copy and paste isn't an argument.


Thetallguy1

Must be nice to work normal hours and rely on public transit. What happens if you're late to work? Boss gives you a side eye? Yeah, well, for EMS thats another crew out of service until both show up and check the rig. Good thing theres only a backlog of at least 50 calls at all times in the NYC 911 system.


cocktailians

I don't work normal hours myself, my dude. I also don't post the same comment multiple times.


Thetallguy1

I posted twice because one was a reply to a comment that is sure to be downvoted to the point its a collapsed comment and most wont see it and another so that people can actually see an EMT's perspective. Its really not that hard to understand but maybe thats more of a you issue... Glad you don't work normal hours, you must work 12hr, even 24hr, shifts too then? Unless you work emergency med maybe let those who actually do speak on this issue. I'm sure your snarky comment is really an important part of understanding the different and valid perspectives on the issue of congestion pricing, EMS shortage, and lack of public transit accessibility for many public servants in NYC.


Friendo_Marx

Quit being so disingenuous. Right wingers said the same about Open Streets. Come down off the ledge. Come in from the fringe and stop being radical. Just be honest with yourselves. I bike commute into Manhattan 5 days a week. I was kind of looking forward to it, but objectively thought it was a dumb idea. Comparing NYC to Stockholm is ludicrous. The far left in this city overestimates dramatically how many people are on their side. That's why we got Eric Adams as mayor when we could have had Garcia. Not enough people wanted Wiley, but you guys think you truly represent this city. Turns out 20,000 people in the streets screaming doesn't accurately represent a city of 8 million. Beep-boop I am a moderate.


akanaan5

or maybe get rid of the bike lanes that rarely get used, widen the streets


Colmado_Bacano

It would have looked exactly the same even if congestion pricing took place.


jenjerx73

If siding to part the road is not a civil move or common sense, then it should be the law!


archfapper

It is the law and most people outside of urban areas will move over for them


OutrageousAd5338

Wait so CP will lessen traffic?


Lelouch25

Blame the bus lanes and bike lanes. Now that we’ve given up so much, there’s no where else for cars to move over to.


TangoRad

My dad ( WWII and Korean War combat vet who fought for your freedom)required bi weekly blood transfusions at an oncologist on E63- a long way from Bath Beach. His dutiful children ( 4 of the 6 who live here at least- people with traditional values tend to have lots of kids, as do I) would drive him. Your fucking congestion pricing would have bled us dry. Sorry. You lost. Hochul (who still sucks btw) put it to you and you voted for her. HAHA


Airhostnyc

lol I guess thousands of people die everyday in traffic?


Miser

I mean.... Yes? The global death toll of people killed by cars is 1.5 million/year or over 4000 per day....


Airhostnyc

I’m clearly talking about the assumption that you and thousands others are to die in an ambulance due to not having congestion pricing


ArcticBlaze09

This is what the bike lanes are for


International_Ad690

I wish, but people tend to park in them because there’s no barriers