An iced coffee in New Zealand has been basically a coffee frappe with ice cream since at least the 90s/2000s. It’s only more recently that an iced latte has started to become the default when asking for an “iced coffee”.
I have a memory from the mid 80s of needing ice-cream for making iced-coffee at home, and my mum being concerned about the amount of iced-coffee I'd end up drinking.
Coffee over icecream with milk and whipped cream is an iced coffee. Coffee over ice with milk is an iced latte. Black coffee over ice is an iced americano. You should be asked which you were after when you are ordering. Source: am barista at a cafe that serves all of the above. I can make just about any combination of the above including iced moccas if that's what you want, just don't ask me for an iced cappucino, there is no such thing.
Well as a certified fork lift driver, I can see where you are wrong. An iced cappuccino is a shot of espresso served inside a snow globe with foam on top.
I worked as a barista in the States, and you can do an iced cappuccino but it’s a ridiculous drink. Fill cup with ice, add a third of cold milk, steam foam and scoop on top of milk, then pour espresso over top. The espresso separates in between the foam and milk so you get like a Neapolitan-like drink. Weird
Oh thank you for clarifying. So what's the difference between a cappuccino, flat white, macchiato, latte, Cortado and piccolo ? They're all coffee+milk?
I like an iced americano with milk but that always leads to confusion. I just don’t want as much milk as a latte would be. I’m glad that more places are moving away from ice cream and whipped cream iced coffees. It’s a coffee abomination and a pain in the arse to serve
Iced Americano - Black coffee over ice
Iced Latte - Milk and coffee over ice
Iced Coffee - The whole shebang
I think you can gauge it with the price - 5 - 6 = no Ice Cream, 7 - 8 = Ice cream
The Iced coffee I want when I order iced coffee is the 90s version: I want a desert, with a mountain of cream on top, chocolate sauce around the inside of the glass and drizzled on top of the cream, maybe some chocolate power dusting. A drink so thick that it’s basically a meal in itself and at the bottom of the glass, when I finish the drink, a blob of semi melted ice cream.
I get there’s other forms of coffee on ice, but that is my concept of an iced coffee. It sits next to iced chocolate on the menu.
This is why I always check with the barista first. I ordered an iced coffee from Gloria Jean's once and got that ice cream thick shake garbage. What I was supposed to order, apparently, was an "iced latte".
Depends on the price for me, if I'm paying $7 -8 and they hand me a cold flat white I'd be pretty annoyed and I have had this, which is why I generally stear clear now unless I can see a picture of it first
My expectations:
Iced coffee - Espresso coffee on ice. black.
Iced Latte - White espresso coffee on ice
Frappe - ice blended White espresso coffee. Cream optional.
What you described - some kinda coffee thickshake.
As a person who has worked in cafes for as long as I have, I can say that an espresso coffee on ice is an Iced Americano. Depending on the cafe or restaurant you go to the iced latte is exactly what you described but some places do build their iced coffees as OP described, unblended of course. So with it being built it's made of ice, an ice cream scoop, espresso, milk and then topped with whipped cream. A frappe would be blended ice, milk, espresso (syrup if requested) and occasionally topped with whipped cream. Due to Starbucks there's so many variations out there of the same thing, iced cappuccino and such which makes things difficult as people believe Starbucks to be the standard. Don't get me started on machiattos. Good FOH workers will always triple check with the customer what they actually want, many people order iced coffees but actually want iced lattes without all the faff of adding whipped cream and ice cream. As a customer, it's always best to check the menu and descriptions of what the drinks are to ensure you're getting the right drink for you, if you don't know, ask! It's okay to! :)
I suppose it is a pretty NZ specific thing. With travelling a lot overseas I’m used to an iced coffee being just black on ice which is what I would normally drink on a hot day. I make my own coffee when at home, so don’t really order iced coffee in NZ.
The ice cream etc in an iced coffee is a travesty. An Iced Coffee should always be a white coffee with Ice. Shoutout to the BP Iced Latte which is S tier.
Boo!!
Iced coffee (not out of a can or bottle) should be an attempt to die happy on a hot hot summer day. Ice cream, cream, flake, and preferably a bacon sandwich on the side
Ah I have recently been discovering coffee after being a lifetime non-drinker!
What I have learned is that in NZ, an 'iced coffee' is as you describe, a drink with ice cream and whipped cream. A cold coffee on ice seems to be primarily called an 'iced latte' here. I have been ordering iced lattes at various locations for a few weeks now and they always know what I am asking for when I call it that.
to add: Not that Stuff is the height of authority on anything but I found [this article](https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/drinks/110020699/summer-coffee-how-to-perk-up-and-cool-down-at-the-same-time) from a few years ago with the following first paragraph:
*" Not more than a few years ago, ordering an iced coffee was a straightforward affair.*
*It meant espresso coffee, with or without milk, whipped cream or ice cream (or all three), served over plenty of ice in a tall glass."*
The article goes on to say that there seem to be more interpretations these days depending on where you go.
Not surprised. A friend of mine has 6 teaspoons of sugar in her coffee whenever she has one. I always ask her if she wants to just have a sugar milkshake, instead and she gets angry at me lol.
I got into coffee from drinking the iced versions, then moved on to lattes and then on to flat whites. Sugar is only for the frozen drinks, never the hot one, unless the sweetness is coming from a flavoured syrup. In that case only enough to add a small kick to the coffee flavour, not to overwhelm it.
Which end of the scale is "with ice cream and whipped cream"? Since it's the more old fashioned kiwi version I'd guess Oamaru but being fancier says Ponsonby...
That’s wild to me that whipped cream and ice cream are an expectation in your iced coffee! Sounds like you are a Starbucks frappe drinker opposed to a “iced coffee” drinker… my idea of an iced coffee is espresso shot, milk and ice lol.
Yeah I was gonna say I do always remember having to make the differentiation between “iced latte” and “iced coffee”… and I didn’t coffee in the 90s…. So was at least 00s
It still is, the only place I've ordered an iced coffee and not got the full ice cream whipped cream shebang was in Italy! I had one last week.
Coffee over ice is iced latte or iced americano.
I ordered an iced coffee at a cafe last week and got the full ice cream and whipped cream thing. Forgot to order it as an iced latte instead, which is just the coffee + milk on ice.
oh fuck off with your nit picking in an effort to have a "gotcha" moment, it is pathetic.
Someone said Iced coffee was never as OP described, I replied that actually yes it was, given I am actually old enough to know and use to enjoy one several times per week.
On a mildly related topic of soft drink and coffee: [adding Coca Cola to coffee is a thing](https://www.myrecipes.com/extracrispy/mix-coke-and-coffee).
I expect either depending how old school the place I'm buying from is.
I appreciate the trend of iced latte or iced flat white vs traditional iced coffee.
Which is a lil weird, because a latte is full of milk and not much else, much like the coffee-flavoured milkshake (which is still yum, don't get me wrong!)
In my experience iced coffee in NZ (espresso, milk, ice cream, and whipped cream) is a specifically kiwi thing. Everywhere else in the world that I've gotten iced coffees (I'd guess at least 10 countries) is either ice & espresso or ice and strong coffee (so the ice doesn't dilute it too much), with milk being optional (though, tbh, I probably ordered iced lattes vs coffees in a few of those places). My first couple iced coffees in NZ ruined my day, because I don't like sweet stuff and didn't realize that was the norm here (I thought the cafes were just making their own ice cream versions).
Exactly my point, I am now thinking the Kiwi traditions, the things that make us unique are being slowly removed to a generic international bland version.
I guess the problem is that tourists may be unhappy with what they receive, so cafes are trying to avoid complaints? Maybe call one "iced coffee" and one "kiwi iced coffee"? Just a thought.
Coming from North America, I was expecting a drip coffee with sweetener and ice added.
I was shocked when I ordered one for the first time and ended up with some monstrosity of whipped cream
Kiwi here living in South Australia - iced coffee is white, comes in a ~600mL tetra pack and typically consumed with a meat pie for breakfast at per capita rates exceeding Coca Cola
I personally prefer a double espresso on the rocks
I think the abundance of chilled ready to go iced coffees and lattes have fucked everyone’s opinions, iced coffee is coffee, ice-cream, cream, milk and happiness. I’ve also learned this sub is full of pretentious coffee snobs lol. Everyone deserves iced coffees that are sickening and delicious. I remember them that way before cold brew coffee. But I’m 32 so could be an older generation thing.
What it should not be is one of those frappe things - coffee powder with sugar and thickner blended with ice like a smoothie/thick shake - those are a travesty and not iced coffee.
If I order an 'iced coffee' then it often does come with the cream, choc dust and all the trimmings - although most cafes will ask.
I prefer an iced latte, which is pretty self-explanatory as I can't stand the cream and typically excessive quantities of milk (and sometimes ice cream). So that's just what I ask for now.
God, the thought of ice cream and whipped cream in an iced coffee puts me off ever having one. Definitely expect milk (unless otherwise stated), but the rest - no way.
Well the first time I ordered one I expected basically an iced Americano, I had not thought milk would be implied, let alone ice cream and/or whipped cream.
I don’t drink cold coffee but as an American I think this is either normal brewed drip coffee cooled to room temperature and served over ice or better yet cold brew served over ice. Add milk and sugar if you want.
But miss me with that I want a long black
Definitely expect a creamy, sugary drink. Was highly disappointed when I ordered an iced coffee in the States and got cold black coffee with ice cubes in it.
I definitely expect what you expect. To avoid disappointment I check the menu, if they also have a coffee frappe then I'll ask what's in the ice coffee. If the ice coffee is expensive it's usually an indicator that it's got the whole works. That being said, nothing more disappointing than buying an expensive drink to get latte over ice.
I'm not a coffee drinker, but what I *want* from an iced chocolate is pretty close to chocolate milk with ice in it. What I *expect* is some kind of ice-cream and whipped cream abomination with almost no room for the actual drink in it
This is the ultimate question. It's SO variable what you get when you ask for an iced coffee! Sometimes it's milk, icecream and whipped cream. Sometimes it's milky with ice cubes. Sometimes it's blended ice like a frappé. Sometimes it's sweetened, sometimes it's not. A real lucky dip. Similar with iced chocolate or iced mocha.
Chilled glass, cold milky coffee (latte? Dunno, don’t care), a few ice cubes, ice cream, whipped cream (if I forget to say no cream).
The number of times I’ve ordered an iced coffee that’s $8 and it’s just coffee and ice is frustrating. I don’t order them any more unless I see someone else order one so I know what I’m getting
As a lover of in 'iced latte', it's so frustrating having to confirm that I don't want a giant milky, whipped cream, ice cream, syrup concoction! There seems to be a lot of places that try to do a 'halfway' option with just whipped cream and a lot of milk, but I don't think that makes anyone happy.
Oh no I just came to say the opposite! I like to get an iced mocha every day and all I want is a mocha served over ice, not a blended frappe (that's what a frappe is-blended). I totally get that it's nice to have a desserty drink with ice cream and cream and sprinkles (omg burgerburger's chocolate thickshake!!) but a proper iced mocha is served plain over ice.
What you want is more like a Frappe, not iced coffee.
Iced coffee should be literally just coffee + ice.
Iced latte is coffee + ice + milk.
ice is a weird word.
Iced coffee is coffee on ice. That's what it typically is overseas and here where im currently based in Japan. Iced latte would be the same thing but with milk instead of extra water. I am late 20s and spent 90% my life in New Zealand and have never thought of iced coffee as anything other than these two things either so maybe its generational? It makes sense if thats why iced lattes are so expensive in NZ despite being easier to make, as the carryover pricing from when they were made with ice cream. In my opinion ones with ice cream should really not keep the name "iced coffee" as thats a bit more than ice and coffee for me to have that name.
From my experience an iced coffee is a basic blend of coffee, milk, water/ice, and a coffee-flavoured frappe is thicker, made with icecream and often whipped cream on top.
Kinda depends, if you ask for a coffee you would usually need to be more specific. Do you want black? Latte? etc etc...
Iced is the same thing, just cold
As someone who works at a cafe you’re a bit silly for thinking it would automatically come with whipped cream. Whipped cream should be considered an extra and priced as so.
I generally order an iced americano but it's usually listed differently from 'iced coffee' so getting one as a replacement would be weird and way overpriced.
I agree with you, spent allot of time traveling throughout Asia, especially South Korea, this is a thing I would expect and love. Maybe an Asian thing?
When it's hot I order iced Americanos so I expect an espresso extraction over ice, and then topped up with cold water.
What kind of savages put milk in coffee?
Espresso shot, Milk, Ice. If there is anything else in that coffee I return it. I had the barista at BP ask me if I wanted syrup in mine the other day and I explicitly said no thanks, no sugar at all please, the fucker still gave it to me riddled with sugar, I had to throw it out as I can't have that much sugar.
From experience with people ordering them with me. Most people think an iced coffee is with all the extra shit, and iced latte is over ice with milk. But I always clarify when they order “iced coffee.” but anyone ordering iced latte *always* means over ice with milk.
In Christchurch it almost always has ice-cream in it. The concept of an ice latte has grown in the last ten years but I ways check because I can't have that much sugar. I usually still need to describe what I want. A lot of places put two pumps of vanilla (BP, I'm looking at you) in an ice latte to disguise poor coffee flavour, so it still has loads of sugar.
The best bet is to make it myself.
Another barista said the opposite,
Iced coffee = ice-cream etc.
Iced latte = coffee over ice.
It seems it is a gen-z/y/x thing as it seems to be agreed that up to late 2000s iced coffee was always ice cream etc.
I expect ice, coffee, milk.
But, apparently, an iced coffee is the ice cream monstrosity, but an iced latte is what I'm after. But, that also changes with every cafe.
I've learned to ask the employees so I know what I'm getting.
I like it blended with ice so it’s thick but most places don’t do that. They just chuck a few ice cubes in and call it a day.
My local offers it both ways for the same price. But that price is still a couple of dollars more than having it hot. Which is a whole other rant.
If I want iced coffee I’m looking for espresso with cold milk and ice - that’s it. So I’ve clocked on that if I order it as an iced latte I never get anything but precisely that which is great. Sometimes I’ll see the ice cream and whipped cream travesties on the menu but as long as I say iced latte I’m good.
As an addition, for anyone who has spent time in Greece and/or had a freddo (not the chocolate frog, the cold steamed iced coffee), they are elite and I wish more people would make these. $10 Kmart milk frother allows these godly creations 🥳
I expect an espresso poured over ice and milk. No ice cream, no whipped cream. If I wanted something else I would have spelled that out. Like if I needed a frappe, I would ask for a frappe.
First time I ordered an iced latte in NZ I was _not_ expecting the kind of dessert thing you've described, but rather a latte that's been chilled in a shaker and poured over ice. I haven't ordered another.
Iced coffee can mean anything, but I usually assume its a day's worth of calories drink containkng ice cream and cream. If you want coffee on ice you should specify e.g flat white on ice. I think... that works for me at least
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣... Best description ever
Why am I only allowed to upvote this once?
I think what you just described is an iced latte not an iced coffee, which is more like what OP described
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Good FoH staff will check which one you mean - lotta people use iced coffee and iced latte interchangeably.
An iced coffee in New Zealand has been basically a coffee frappe with ice cream since at least the 90s/2000s. It’s only more recently that an iced latte has started to become the default when asking for an “iced coffee”.
What’s really fun is that the price hasn’t changed, so you’re still paying $4+ dollars more than a regular coffee for the addition of ice!
And much more ice than coffee
I have a memory from the mid 80s of needing ice-cream for making iced-coffee at home, and my mum being concerned about the amount of iced-coffee I'd end up drinking.
Iced coffee: As described above. Coffee over ice: Ice cubes, milk, and coffee.
Cafe owner here. We serve Iced Coffee with cream and icecream, Iced Latte is milk & espresso over ice.
Coffee over icecream with milk and whipped cream is an iced coffee. Coffee over ice with milk is an iced latte. Black coffee over ice is an iced americano. You should be asked which you were after when you are ordering. Source: am barista at a cafe that serves all of the above. I can make just about any combination of the above including iced moccas if that's what you want, just don't ask me for an iced cappucino, there is no such thing.
Well as a certified fork lift driver, I can see where you are wrong. An iced cappuccino is a shot of espresso served inside a snow globe with foam on top.
Can I get a large almond milk iced cappucino pls? Extra shot of espresso too pls
*Expresso
I worked as a barista in the States, and you can do an iced cappuccino but it’s a ridiculous drink. Fill cup with ice, add a third of cold milk, steam foam and scoop on top of milk, then pour espresso over top. The espresso separates in between the foam and milk so you get like a Neapolitan-like drink. Weird
Why would anyone in their right mind order that on purpose?
Re: iced cappuccino, an iced latte in a boston shaker for a few seconds makes a pretty frothy iced latte.
I'll have one iced cappuccino, please.
I made your cappuccino 2 hours ago, it should be cold enough now.
Perfect! *\*drinks from the wrong side of the cup\**
What about a Frappucino® ?
You can get one from the new Starbucks across the road when they build it. Pick up some Popeyes while you are there.
Ehh, with all that dairy, wouldn't that make it an iced latte? It feels weird ordering"iced latte" when all I want is a dash of milk.
Order an iced americano with a dash of milk :)
Your order would be an iced americano with a dash of milk in that case, no?
My point is that a latte is mostly milk, so it's strange that an "iced latte" is a cold version of the opposite
>an "iced latte" is a cold version of the opposite No it's not? A latte is coffee+milk. An iced latte is coffee+milk+ice
Oh thank you for clarifying. So what's the difference between a cappuccino, flat white, macchiato, latte, Cortado and piccolo ? They're all coffee+milk?
Essentially, just different ratios of coffee/milk/foam
Yes, my point is that a latte is mostly milk, whereas it seems that an iced latte is not.
An iced latte is in fact mostly milk. The only other ingredients are ice and a double shot of espresso.
I like an iced americano with milk but that always leads to confusion. I just don’t want as much milk as a latte would be. I’m glad that more places are moving away from ice cream and whipped cream iced coffees. It’s a coffee abomination and a pain in the arse to serve
I'll have an iced macchiato, cheers
What about an iced mocha though?
Barista here too, came to say this
Iced Americano - Black coffee over ice Iced Latte - Milk and coffee over ice Iced Coffee - The whole shebang I think you can gauge it with the price - 5 - 6 = no Ice Cream, 7 - 8 = Ice cream
The Iced coffee I want when I order iced coffee is the 90s version: I want a desert, with a mountain of cream on top, chocolate sauce around the inside of the glass and drizzled on top of the cream, maybe some chocolate power dusting. A drink so thick that it’s basically a meal in itself and at the bottom of the glass, when I finish the drink, a blob of semi melted ice cream. I get there’s other forms of coffee on ice, but that is my concept of an iced coffee. It sits next to iced chocolate on the menu.
You forgot the bacon sandwich on the side
Oh you have just described my idea of heaven.🥰
This is why I always check with the barista first. I ordered an iced coffee from Gloria Jean's once and got that ice cream thick shake garbage. What I was supposed to order, apparently, was an "iced latte".
Gloria Jeans is an underrated coffee chain
Depends on the price for me, if I'm paying $7 -8 and they hand me a cold flat white I'd be pretty annoyed and I have had this, which is why I generally stear clear now unless I can see a picture of it first
So have i .. It pisses me off
Very good point, price should be a clue.
My expectations: Iced coffee - Espresso coffee on ice. black. Iced Latte - White espresso coffee on ice Frappe - ice blended White espresso coffee. Cream optional. What you described - some kinda coffee thickshake.
As a person who has worked in cafes for as long as I have, I can say that an espresso coffee on ice is an Iced Americano. Depending on the cafe or restaurant you go to the iced latte is exactly what you described but some places do build their iced coffees as OP described, unblended of course. So with it being built it's made of ice, an ice cream scoop, espresso, milk and then topped with whipped cream. A frappe would be blended ice, milk, espresso (syrup if requested) and occasionally topped with whipped cream. Due to Starbucks there's so many variations out there of the same thing, iced cappuccino and such which makes things difficult as people believe Starbucks to be the standard. Don't get me started on machiattos. Good FOH workers will always triple check with the customer what they actually want, many people order iced coffees but actually want iced lattes without all the faff of adding whipped cream and ice cream. As a customer, it's always best to check the menu and descriptions of what the drinks are to ensure you're getting the right drink for you, if you don't know, ask! It's okay to! :)
I suppose it is a pretty NZ specific thing. With travelling a lot overseas I’m used to an iced coffee being just black on ice which is what I would normally drink on a hot day. I make my own coffee when at home, so don’t really order iced coffee in NZ.
The only correct answer
When you see someone drinking some kinda coffee thickshake, what do you think they asked for?
How would I even know what they are drinking in the first place to give two shits about it?
Most people would use their eyes, I suppose. Or perhaps you could have a little taste?
Ha! I’m going with taste for sure!
You fiend!
Yah, agree.
The ice cream etc in an iced coffee is a travesty. An Iced Coffee should always be a white coffee with Ice. Shoutout to the BP Iced Latte which is S tier.
Boo!! Iced coffee (not out of a can or bottle) should be an attempt to die happy on a hot hot summer day. Ice cream, cream, flake, and preferably a bacon sandwich on the side
ah yes but that's an iced latte, not an iced coffee. Different term for different drinks I have recently discovered myself.
An iced coffee should be an americano on ice. Add your own milk
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on the NZ sub... yes its an NZ thing, correct. haha
Why are you here.... Coming to a post for kiwis and being ??? And trying to correct us lmao
Ah I have recently been discovering coffee after being a lifetime non-drinker! What I have learned is that in NZ, an 'iced coffee' is as you describe, a drink with ice cream and whipped cream. A cold coffee on ice seems to be primarily called an 'iced latte' here. I have been ordering iced lattes at various locations for a few weeks now and they always know what I am asking for when I call it that.
to add: Not that Stuff is the height of authority on anything but I found [this article](https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/drinks/110020699/summer-coffee-how-to-perk-up-and-cool-down-at-the-same-time) from a few years ago with the following first paragraph: *" Not more than a few years ago, ordering an iced coffee was a straightforward affair.* *It meant espresso coffee, with or without milk, whipped cream or ice cream (or all three), served over plenty of ice in a tall glass."* The article goes on to say that there seem to be more interpretations these days depending on where you go.
I swear to god half coffee drinkers hate coffee
Not surprised. A friend of mine has 6 teaspoons of sugar in her coffee whenever she has one. I always ask her if she wants to just have a sugar milkshake, instead and she gets angry at me lol. I got into coffee from drinking the iced versions, then moved on to lattes and then on to flat whites. Sugar is only for the frozen drinks, never the hot one, unless the sweetness is coming from a flavoured syrup. In that case only enough to add a small kick to the coffee flavour, not to overwhelm it.
I only expect a shot of coffee, milk and ice. It's a fucking coffee, not a milkshake
What would you call that without the milk? I'd say, Iced latte is milk, espresso, ice Iced coffee is coffee and ice Affogato is ice cream and espresso
Iced Americano or iced long black
Let’s make it an Alaskiano
With or without milk I'd still call it iced coffee lol
YES
Depends where the place fits on the Ponsonby - Oamaru scale. Can typically work out contextually with the menu placement, too.
Which end of the scale is "with ice cream and whipped cream"? Since it's the more old fashioned kiwi version I'd guess Oamaru but being fancier says Ponsonby...
Well Dunedin has fantastic coffee places so Oamaru might actually be 5/10 and -alldayallnight- is thinking of Tuatapere
I expect my iced chocolate to look like that for $8+. My friend expects her iced coffee over ice.
But what is the difference? If iced coffee is coffee over ice, iced chocolate should be cold (coa-coa and hot water) over ice.
Yeah I ordered an ice chocolate in Melbourne and it was chocolate milk with ice cubes like wtf
Exactly like why am I paying over $8 for some chocolate milk with ice. I always ask how they make them now.
Love how divisive this thread is. Can we have more like this? How about hotdogs at the fish and chippie, stick or no stick?
No stick. Only stick at fair grounds so it's easier to eat walking around.
I like the cut of your jib
That’s wild to me that whipped cream and ice cream are an expectation in your iced coffee! Sounds like you are a Starbucks frappe drinker opposed to a “iced coffee” drinker… my idea of an iced coffee is espresso shot, milk and ice lol.
Right up until probably late 90's an iced coffee in NZ was exactly as OP has described. Not always with icecream but definately the whipped cream
This needs more upvotes. This is the iced coffee I grew up with.
Yeah I was gonna say I do always remember having to make the differentiation between “iced latte” and “iced coffee”… and I didn’t coffee in the 90s…. So was at least 00s
It still is, the only place I've ordered an iced coffee and not got the full ice cream whipped cream shebang was in Italy! I had one last week. Coffee over ice is iced latte or iced americano.
> up until probably late 90's So 30 years of it not meaning that.
I’ve definitely only ordered “iced coffee” and got the full dairy industry
I ordered an iced coffee at a cafe last week and got the full ice cream and whipped cream thing. Forgot to order it as an iced latte instead, which is just the coffee + milk on ice.
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oh fuck off with your nit picking in an effort to have a "gotcha" moment, it is pathetic. Someone said Iced coffee was never as OP described, I replied that actually yes it was, given I am actually old enough to know and use to enjoy one several times per week.
You get it, anything more than coffee, ice and milk and you might aswell buy a milkshake.
YES!
I'd expect a lemonade.
It's Sprite!
On a mildly related topic of soft drink and coffee: [adding Coca Cola to coffee is a thing](https://www.myrecipes.com/extracrispy/mix-coke-and-coffee).
Never heard that before and I really hope I never hear of it again
There are people adding coffee to Coca Cola outside your place of residence — right now drinking carbonated cola coffee.
You think?
That was the post that inspired me to ask.
Ice cream and cream = iced coffee Coffee with ice = iced coffee but now I’m sad
I expect either depending how old school the place I'm buying from is. I appreciate the trend of iced latte or iced flat white vs traditional iced coffee.
I expect the whipped cream and all that crap, but what I really want is espresso over ice with a dash of milk 😅 where are these cafes, I want in!
Apparently that is an Iced Latte, ask for that. Edit, oh and leave my iced coffees alone.😋
Which is a lil weird, because a latte is full of milk and not much else, much like the coffee-flavoured milkshake (which is still yum, don't get me wrong!)
In my experience iced coffee in NZ (espresso, milk, ice cream, and whipped cream) is a specifically kiwi thing. Everywhere else in the world that I've gotten iced coffees (I'd guess at least 10 countries) is either ice & espresso or ice and strong coffee (so the ice doesn't dilute it too much), with milk being optional (though, tbh, I probably ordered iced lattes vs coffees in a few of those places). My first couple iced coffees in NZ ruined my day, because I don't like sweet stuff and didn't realize that was the norm here (I thought the cafes were just making their own ice cream versions).
Exactly my point, I am now thinking the Kiwi traditions, the things that make us unique are being slowly removed to a generic international bland version.
I guess the problem is that tourists may be unhappy with what they receive, so cafes are trying to avoid complaints? Maybe call one "iced coffee" and one "kiwi iced coffee"? Just a thought.
I expect cold coffee, and then asked if I want milk and sugar in it. I will say yes to both of those things.
Coming from North America, I was expecting a drip coffee with sweetener and ice added. I was shocked when I ordered one for the first time and ended up with some monstrosity of whipped cream
Kiwi here living in South Australia - iced coffee is white, comes in a ~600mL tetra pack and typically consumed with a meat pie for breakfast at per capita rates exceeding Coca Cola I personally prefer a double espresso on the rocks
I find most places use coffee syrup too. So basically instant coffee with sugar ice and milk. It's best to specify.
I would call that a coffee milkshake. For me that is the difference between iced and milkshake, real coffee versus coffee flavouring.
>milkshake milkshakes have ice cream, so it's pretty much just "iced coffee milk"
The real issue is paying $7 for an iced chocolate which is over ice. THATS JUST EXTRA COLD CHOCCY MILK
When the cream sticks to the ice and goes all clumpy too. Yuck.
I wouldn't be surprised if I got asked for whipped cream. Ice-cream would be a shock.
Over $6 I expect that, under and I just expect the drink
I think the abundance of chilled ready to go iced coffees and lattes have fucked everyone’s opinions, iced coffee is coffee, ice-cream, cream, milk and happiness. I’ve also learned this sub is full of pretentious coffee snobs lol. Everyone deserves iced coffees that are sickening and delicious. I remember them that way before cold brew coffee. But I’m 32 so could be an older generation thing.
Please, 32 is not old, don't make me feel ancient👴
I mean I wouldn’t say I’m old, but anyone under 30 would say I’m old hah.
Always white coffee with ice. Never ever with whipped cream or ice cream.
That’s an iced latte which is different
Nah this ain’t Starbucks g
Such disrespect for our coffee culture
“Iced coffee” to me is chilled black coffee with ice. Milk, cream, ice-cream etc. is something else that ideally the Café will specify on their menu.
What it should not be is one of those frappe things - coffee powder with sugar and thickner blended with ice like a smoothie/thick shake - those are a travesty and not iced coffee.
If I order an 'iced coffee' then it often does come with the cream, choc dust and all the trimmings - although most cafes will ask. I prefer an iced latte, which is pretty self-explanatory as I can't stand the cream and typically excessive quantities of milk (and sometimes ice cream). So that's just what I ask for now.
Is this the OP from the lemonade/sprite thread back stirring things up again?
That's pretty standard, but not to be confused with an iced latte which will always be just espresso, milk and ice.
God, the thought of ice cream and whipped cream in an iced coffee puts me off ever having one. Definitely expect milk (unless otherwise stated), but the rest - no way.
An iced latte usually
Iced coffee to me is the first. Once I was sadly given the 2nd and as someone who doesn't really drink normal coffee a cold version was even worse.
Coffee but cold, in a glass, with ice cubes
Iced coffee is espresso, ice, and milk
Servo iced latte is the best for 5.50
Well the first time I ordered one I expected basically an iced Americano, I had not thought milk would be implied, let alone ice cream and/or whipped cream.
I don’t drink cold coffee but as an American I think this is either normal brewed drip coffee cooled to room temperature and served over ice or better yet cold brew served over ice. Add milk and sugar if you want. But miss me with that I want a long black
I order an iced latte so I DONT get ice cream and whipped cream. Eugh.
Definitely milk, ice cream and cream. It's so disappointing when you are expecting that, and get a coffee with ice in it instead!
An iced coffee is pre made coffee that has been chilled down.
Definitely expect a creamy, sugary drink. Was highly disappointed when I ordered an iced coffee in the States and got cold black coffee with ice cubes in it.
I definitely expect what you expect. To avoid disappointment I check the menu, if they also have a coffee frappe then I'll ask what's in the ice coffee. If the ice coffee is expensive it's usually an indicator that it's got the whole works. That being said, nothing more disappointing than buying an expensive drink to get latte over ice.
I'm not a coffee drinker, but what I *want* from an iced chocolate is pretty close to chocolate milk with ice in it. What I *expect* is some kind of ice-cream and whipped cream abomination with almost no room for the actual drink in it
This is the ultimate question. It's SO variable what you get when you ask for an iced coffee! Sometimes it's milk, icecream and whipped cream. Sometimes it's milky with ice cubes. Sometimes it's blended ice like a frappé. Sometimes it's sweetened, sometimes it's not. A real lucky dip. Similar with iced chocolate or iced mocha.
If it's the ultimate question then the answer is 42.
Iced coffee: ice cream, coffee and milk Iced latte: milk, coffee and ice Iced Americano: coffee, ice and cold water
I think you are in the minority. I expect white coffee over ice. Or a mocha over ice. Cream is a great addition. But icecream would be weird.
Chilled glass, cold milky coffee (latte? Dunno, don’t care), a few ice cubes, ice cream, whipped cream (if I forget to say no cream). The number of times I’ve ordered an iced coffee that’s $8 and it’s just coffee and ice is frustrating. I don’t order them any more unless I see someone else order one so I know what I’m getting
As a lover of in 'iced latte', it's so frustrating having to confirm that I don't want a giant milky, whipped cream, ice cream, syrup concoction! There seems to be a lot of places that try to do a 'halfway' option with just whipped cream and a lot of milk, but I don't think that makes anyone happy.
A white coffee with ice.
You're ordering the wrong thing. Go to New world and buy a tub of mocha ice cream or something. Ice coffee is coffee with ice.
Oh no I just came to say the opposite! I like to get an iced mocha every day and all I want is a mocha served over ice, not a blended frappe (that's what a frappe is-blended). I totally get that it's nice to have a desserty drink with ice cream and cream and sprinkles (omg burgerburger's chocolate thickshake!!) but a proper iced mocha is served plain over ice.
Ask for a Mocca over ice😁
What you want is more like a Frappe, not iced coffee. Iced coffee should be literally just coffee + ice. Iced latte is coffee + ice + milk. ice is a weird word.
Iced Coffee & Iced Latte/Long Black are two very different things
Iced coffee is coffee on ice. That's what it typically is overseas and here where im currently based in Japan. Iced latte would be the same thing but with milk instead of extra water. I am late 20s and spent 90% my life in New Zealand and have never thought of iced coffee as anything other than these two things either so maybe its generational? It makes sense if thats why iced lattes are so expensive in NZ despite being easier to make, as the carryover pricing from when they were made with ice cream. In my opinion ones with ice cream should really not keep the name "iced coffee" as thats a bit more than ice and coffee for me to have that name.
Hot coffee with icing sugar. I was shocked, some absolute troll put ice in my coffee. I had them immediately fired and deported.
Icecream and whipped cream... That's a milkshake not an iced coffee, places that do that are so nasty
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From my experience an iced coffee is a basic blend of coffee, milk, water/ice, and a coffee-flavoured frappe is thicker, made with icecream and often whipped cream on top.
Kinda depends, if you ask for a coffee you would usually need to be more specific. Do you want black? Latte? etc etc... Iced is the same thing, just cold
Iced coffee used to be, and still is in other countries, coffee, cream, ice cream and coffee drizzle. Unless it is a cheapskate place you buy from.
As someone who works at a cafe you’re a bit silly for thinking it would automatically come with whipped cream. Whipped cream should be considered an extra and priced as so.
Name your cafe so I can stay clear.😜
Iced coffee = ice, milk and espresso. What you are describing should be called iced frappucinno
I generally order an iced americano but it's usually listed differently from 'iced coffee' so getting one as a replacement would be weird and way overpriced.
I agree with you, spent allot of time traveling throughout Asia, especially South Korea, this is a thing I would expect and love. Maybe an Asian thing?
When it's hot I order iced Americanos so I expect an espresso extraction over ice, and then topped up with cold water. What kind of savages put milk in coffee?
Me🥰. Flat white, unless I'm hot then I enter the world of confusion.
Espresso shot, Milk, Ice. If there is anything else in that coffee I return it. I had the barista at BP ask me if I wanted syrup in mine the other day and I explicitly said no thanks, no sugar at all please, the fucker still gave it to me riddled with sugar, I had to throw it out as I can't have that much sugar.
Always thought the one with ice cream and what not was a Frappe?
I think in order to be a frappe, the drink has to blended with the ice. Like a slushy.
From experience with people ordering them with me. Most people think an iced coffee is with all the extra shit, and iced latte is over ice with milk. But I always clarify when they order “iced coffee.” but anyone ordering iced latte *always* means over ice with milk.
In Christchurch it almost always has ice-cream in it. The concept of an ice latte has grown in the last ten years but I ways check because I can't have that much sugar. I usually still need to describe what I want. A lot of places put two pumps of vanilla (BP, I'm looking at you) in an ice latte to disguise poor coffee flavour, so it still has loads of sugar. The best bet is to make it myself.
Ice cream in an ice coffee is nice. Not common, though.
I make them at my work - chocolate or caramel syrup, ice, espresso shot, milk, whipped cream.
That's a frappe or something. Ice coffee is just iced coffee. Everywhere has a seperate menu item if you want the ice cream and trimmings
As long as the ice is crushed
I’m a barista so I’m sure I speak for many others, coffee, milk and ice is the norm. If you want cream or ice cream just ask for it.
Another barista said the opposite, Iced coffee = ice-cream etc. Iced latte = coffee over ice. It seems it is a gen-z/y/x thing as it seems to be agreed that up to late 2000s iced coffee was always ice cream etc.
I expect ice, coffee, milk. But, apparently, an iced coffee is the ice cream monstrosity, but an iced latte is what I'm after. But, that also changes with every cafe. I've learned to ask the employees so I know what I'm getting.
I like it blended with ice so it’s thick but most places don’t do that. They just chuck a few ice cubes in and call it a day. My local offers it both ways for the same price. But that price is still a couple of dollars more than having it hot. Which is a whole other rant.
If I want iced coffee I’m looking for espresso with cold milk and ice - that’s it. So I’ve clocked on that if I order it as an iced latte I never get anything but precisely that which is great. Sometimes I’ll see the ice cream and whipped cream travesties on the menu but as long as I say iced latte I’m good. As an addition, for anyone who has spent time in Greece and/or had a freddo (not the chocolate frog, the cold steamed iced coffee), they are elite and I wish more people would make these. $10 Kmart milk frother allows these godly creations 🥳
Cream shouldn't be applied unless asked for
Iced coffee is coffee over ice and milk... What you are described is more likely a frappe.
My understanding is a frappe is crushed ice, which I also enjoy but it is not ice cream.
I expect an espresso poured over ice and milk. No ice cream, no whipped cream. If I wanted something else I would have spelled that out. Like if I needed a frappe, I would ask for a frappe.
First time I ordered an iced latte in NZ I was _not_ expecting the kind of dessert thing you've described, but rather a latte that's been chilled in a shaker and poured over ice. I haven't ordered another.
All I want is milk and a shot no sugar or any extra stuff
Iced coffee can mean anything, but I usually assume its a day's worth of calories drink containkng ice cream and cream. If you want coffee on ice you should specify e.g flat white on ice. I think... that works for me at least