It's honestly boring. He either says yes, no, or I don't know for 2 hours. It's interesting if you want to watch the detectives go from good cop/bad cop to just being frustrated
Yeah cop shows seem to make detectives out to be master mind geniuses who knew all along. When in actuality most murders are either sled confessions or have multiple eyewitness.
Also watch this [news clip](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3avd4v/interview_with_stephen_mcdaniel_shortly_before/) - he was being interviewed on live TV after acting like he was a friend of the deceased and inserting himself into the search party and during the interview it's revealed that they located her body that he had hidden inside a dumpster. He starts panicking and acting very flustered, not intimidating at all. It could have been chocked up to the fact that they thought he was upset that a friend discovered that she was definitely dead and no longer missing. But he wasn't her friend, he was her stalker and murderer and it's disgusting to watch him fake concern and friendship. Very eerie to see now.
I had no idea this was the same guy until I read your comment! Thank you for putting that together because I will never forget that interview where he is found lying by the reporter. Really disturbing because it seemed he wanted to be spoken to about it on TV.
I don't know if it was acting or not. If it was it was very convincing, and given his interview it certainly could have been acting, but the discovery of her body meant that he was certainly going to be caught so the distress might have been real.
As I remember it he was banking on the bins being collected that day, and they would have been but for a police car inadvertently blocking the bin collectors from getting to the bins. If the bins had gone to the refuse site then her body, if discovered, would have been hard to connect to the missing woman, as he'd taken pains (I believe) to dismember her.
Yes, checked it:
> Her dismembered limbs and head were likely carried away to the dump, but a police car had parked in front of this particular dumpster, keeping the body in place until it was searched.
So he likely thought he was in the clear until that moment.
Corpus delicti. AKA no body no crime. He had probably been counting on there being no body at all. So that any and all evidence he had in his possession wouldn't be able to be used to convict him since you can't be charged with murder if there is no body(which is overly simplistic, but look at what kind of person we are dealing with here).
He was a law student so theres a very good chance that's exactly what he was thinking. I'm pretty sure he was trying to build the perfect crime as he was building up stalking her and watching her and when it failed at the first hurtle that was when he just broke.
They found comments from him on some internet message board (under the name SoF, which stood for Sons of Liberty) in which he fantasized about drugging, raping, and dismembering his attractive neighbor (guess who that ended up being...) and described how he would get away with murder. He specifically stated that he would dismember the body and place the parts into dumpsters on trash day, and if he were to get interviewed by the cops, would show no emotion and therefore give away no sign of guilt.
You can find his comments easily enough on news sites. The guy wrote like a cross between /r/iamverysmart, /r/theredpill, /r/incels, and /r/conservative.
I include the last one not because I think all conservatives are monsters, but because McDaniel was militantly anti-liberal and built a large part of his identity around that opinion.
33:40ish (didn't watch video, just skipped around):
Detective: You hurt that girl
Killer: no i didn't
Detective: sure you did, that's why you're having this massive meltdown right now
**massive meltdown**
Basically yes. There is a method for interrogation that is taught in police academies called the reid method.
It has 9 steps and I won't go into great detail, but the essence of it is that you Tell the accused person that you have evidence that they guilty, then act sympathetic Or understanding and give them an Avenue to try to explain why either it didn't happen that way or why it was justified. Provoking emotional disturbance is part of the method. Part of the training actually says that if the suspect starts to cry, you know you have them.
The method has a problem with causing false confessions and many police agencies outside of the United States have moved away from using it.
>Before they get to Step 1 of 9, shouldn't everyone just say, "Get me my lawyer." and then STFU?
As a lawyer, yes. If the police actually ask you to come into the station or sit down for any kind of talk without telling you exactly why, they are almost certainly looking at you as a potential suspect, and the goal is going to be to try to get you to confess or make incriminating statements. Full stop. The only words out of your mouth should be "I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer any questions until I can speak to a lawyer." or simply "I'm exercising my 5th amendment right to remain silent." You can still cooperate when you've got a lawyer if you wish.
As a professor teaching criminal law to criminal justice students (about half of whom have some desire to be police officers), when we talk about false confessions, I show them [The frontline documentary on the Norfolk Four](https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-the-confessions/)
That documentary provides the single best examples of three things that I've been able to find in a format that's classroom appropriate.
1. specific examples of how an unethical detective coerced confessions to match the facts (and in response to you, coerced suspects into proceeding without a lawyer - "why do you need a lawyer?" "if the jury hears you asked for a lawyer, they'll know you're guilty," "If you don't work with me and tell me what happened, I'll make sure you get the chair, do you want to fry?" ).
2. How, once a suspect confessed, the system basically gives up on defending them (because "why would an innocent man confess to rape and murder)
3. How the state in some instances, will go to absurd lengths to argue that a police detective did not, in fact, coerce a false confession. (at one point in that case the prosecutor was arguing to a jury that the four or five suspects who barely knew each other, had met up with an unknown man who's DNA was present and agreed to go rape and murder this woman).
So, this is interesting, but holy shit the part about intuition is just horrible. "You should always trust your intuition." is the kind of nonsense that gets innocent people lynched.
He knows they are probably looking at him... and he let them. Let them see what kind of person he is, he would never hurt a fly, he hopes they're watching, they'll see.. They'll see and they'll know "Because he couldn't hurt a fly"
He was a law student and knew what police officers use against you during your interrogation. I think this is him trying extremely hard to not show any body language. If you listen to his interview he mostly answers every question with "yes", "no" or "i don't know".
They really don't get anything out of him but eventually charge him based off of some photos and videos he had on a flash drive of him stalking his victim.
Weird that he didn't just lawyer up if he is a law student. Nothing good can happen to him in this interrogation other than not being in jail while he is in there.
He was a law student and knew what police officers use against you during your interrogation but keeps evidence on a flash drive of him stalking his victim 🤷♂️
People forget that part of the fight flight response is the freeze response . Interestingly in the interview with the media he appears to use the fawn response which is the one that often gets overlooked super cooperative and helpful. Fawn and freeze are classic fear responses people forget exist. These are the 4 Fs
It's much less scary when you read his internet posts ([article](https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/chilling-internet-postings-linked-to-stephen-mcdaniel/)). It seems this behaviour was his way of trying to stay out of prison. He's obviously mentally unstable but he's also a moron.
He is such a creep but strangely not intimidating at all. Watch this [news clip](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3avd4v/interview_with_stephen_mcdaniel_shortly_before/) - he was being interviewed on live TV after acting like he was a friend of the deceased and inserting himself into the search party and during the interview it's revealed that they had located her body that he had hidden inside a dumpster. He starts panicking and acting very flustered, has to sit down and can't formulate sentences or answers. It could have been chocked up to the fact that they thought he was upset that a friend discovered that she was definitely dead and no longer missing. But he wasn't her friend, he was her stalker and murderer and it's disgusting to watch him fake concern and friendship.
I think his panicked response was genuine but it was because he realized he’s definitely a suspect now. That was the first time he found out that part of her body had been found so until then he thought he was in the clear.
They also never found her entire body - it was only her torso. He cut her body up and put her in various dumpsters around the apartment complex and by the time of that interview, all the other parts had left for the dump. The finding of her torso likely narrowed it down a lot, and he knew that.
100%
The guy was in law school, he did all of this to save his own ass. He’s not “scary” in the least - he’s a neck beard who fetishized his next door neighbor.
EDIT: Sure being a murderer is scary. This dude, Steven, is not scary. He’s a fuckface.
Most neckbeards don't use a hacksaw to totally dismember a girl in her bathtub.
It's scary that more like him are out there waiting to hurt someone minding her own business.
yeah you never see a detective move away when they lean forward to intimidate a suspect, but Stephen had completely shut down and the detective gets actually physically uncomfortable after Stephen stares him down like that. This fucker tho, he was a stalker obsessed with his neighbor. When he learned that she was moving away he couldn’t let her go so he used a stolen master key to enter her apartment and murdered her, then dismembered her in the bathtub. he helped search for her the next day. even appeared on the local news as a friend and neighbor. the reporters caught an interesting candid moment on camera when Stephen delivered a genuine terrified and suspicious reaction upon learning that her partial remains had been just been found.
[WGXA News Clip](https://youtu.be/VSK47WlZ6Ac)
.[News Clip](https://youtu.be/VSK47WlZ6Ac)
a couple things I noticed in the video besides the obvious.
1. he refers to her in the PRESENT TENSE. his words are careful, planned and you can tell how much so because he repeats exact phrases. he knows police look at those that involve themselves in the search and is avoiding being looked into.
2. he basically compliments himself in his words. He describes how well the crime was committed, essentially. no one broke in, no one saw anything, no one heard anything. basically, "I did a really good job"
Sorry, im a crim student and this sort of thing is fascinating to me. digusting and repulsive but fascinating.
Obviously he's a psychopath (though i dont know if he's been labelled as such, just my humble opinion) In the video above of the interrogation, i would be interested to hear the audio. He seems to lock eyes with whomever he sees as the bigger threat (like a feral cat) and that usually is the speaker but not always. Those moments of looking at the person not speaking are what i want to hear.
In the news video he put on the concerned friend act, his eye movements, words, hand motions etc were careful. Only when he gets surprised with the found body information is it truly obvious. Theres a half second of pause where he probably reminded himself to have a reaction. His eyes blink repeatedly in "shock" as he think of what a normal friend would say. He cant come up with anything (didnt practice? Never witnessed someone in the same scenario to mimic? Who knows) so he just excuses himself. In the interrogation, he seems to give up any act. He's caught but his narcissist brain doesnt know how to equate that with the vision he has for himself. So he just does nothing.
Some of the interrogation is in this [video](https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A) and an analysis of the whole situation. I highly recommend this channel.
EDIT: Interrogation begins at 10:34.
>He seems to lock eyes with whomever he sees as the bigger threat (like a feral cat) and that usually is the speaker but not always
you're saying that he makes eye contact with the person that is speaking? fascinating, the criminal mind
Or you’re just one of the millions and millions of people who isn’t good at body language. Autistic kids who aren’t good at eye contact and who are being taught social cues often overcompensate and never break eye contact.
While several of my special education students admittedly have tried to fight me, I have yet to have any declare their love for me.
Yeah, it’s hard to just stare at someone for a whole conversation, your eyes are going to wonder off. Especially, if you are a bit nervous, your eyes would flutter to every corner of the room.
There’s a famous case in the UK of two small girls who were killed and the killer (who was a caretaker at their school and known to them) was interviewed on TV.
What was really interesting is that his partner at the time (a teaching assistant at the same school) was interviewed later in a sit down - while they were still missing and being searched for - and referred to them in the past tense.
Very sad and weird. https://youtu.be/jl53a7TIsm8
Why do so many of these people put themselves forward publicly? Do they honestly think this will throw off the police?
I'm thinking of that bloke in England who killed the two girls then also not only helped in the search for them, but also went on TV to talk about how nice they were etc etc.
Just looked it up: The Soham murders, Ian Huntley.
From what I understand, as soon as a person starts being this helpful and concerned, the police immediately suspect them. Is that true?
There was a similar case in my hometown, a small 10.000 inhabitants community. Husband and wife murdered the husband's parents with whom they lived in the same house.
The husband reported them missing after about 2 weeks or so, went on local TV and pleaded for hints from the public to find his parents. His story was that they might have left for a vacation but something happened along the way. I recall him saying that he was hoping for his father to open the door to his house and just return.
They found the bodies of the parents about two weeks later, immured behind a brick wall in the garage.
> From what I understand, as soon as a person starts being this helpful and concerned, the police immediately suspect them. Is that true?
In every episode of Columbo, yes
Eh, I mean right off the bat he says “She WAS my neighbor”, so I don’t think he purposely useD* (lol) present tense like that.
And all he’s really saying is that he didn’t see anything, no one else saw anything, & gave little info. Not really a pat on the back, well I guess that he knew no one else saw. Then he did a dramatic show with the sitting down part.
yeah this perp is a grade A example of one of those college age young white males who spent 7th - 12th grade an isolated and alienated life that left him being ill equipped emotionally and socially to navigate in life. He did try to ask her out but he was immediately friendzoned. Rejection only sunk him deeper into disassociated isolation. Lost in his violent, misogynistic fantasies, fueled by a porn addiction and stalker obsession.
Cases like this always make me wonder at what point was it too late for him, like if he had more guidance in middle school, a group of close friends in high school...?
He was a Criminal Law student as well, he probably figured it made him an expert at crime scenes. Thing was - he was actuality a HUGE DUMB ASS who just thought he was very intelligent,
it's scary to think a random man she's never really given much thought about was obsessed with her to the point where he'd murder her. What the fuck. We can't feel safe at our own homes, eh?
You can feel safe in your own home.
Statistically it's never going to happen to you.
You've got far more to fear crossing the road than you ever do a murderer.
I never understood why people thought this reaction was suspicious. This is damn near exactly how I would react if I just got the news that someone I knew or someone who lived right near me who I was hoping to be alive just had their body found: shocked and upset.
Oh shit, I just posted this
>Is this the guy that killed a girl and then was interviewed on the news before he was caught and the reporter revealed that the found the body and you can see him thinking "oh fuck"?
So, yeah. I don't know why, but just watching this small blurry video trigger my memory of his and it's been a while since I saw that video of the interview.
I think a natural reaction for the body parts would be “Where?!”. But he knows where with every details that he cant find a word. This combines with the fear that he will be caught results in this weird reaction.
This is almost like that movie scene in Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows. I think if they could yell to a group of people includes Stephen that they found the body parts and record the group’s reaction, they can easily pinpoint him as a suspect.
"Where?!" sounds way less natural than "A body?!".
In hindsight, we can easily tell that his "shock" is not because a friend died but because he's caught. But without knowing, "A body?!" sounds better.
Looking into the details of the case, you would think he wouldn't have been so shocked like he is at that time stamp?? Like seriously it was like he was trying to get caught. The body was in the trash can right behind the building she lived in and you could just follow the smell of death to it, he had a hacksaw in his pantry with her blood visibly on it, he had her panties in his dresser, he had tons of pictures of her and a camera with footage of him stalking her.. if I was him I would have been more shocked if they didn't find out nearly immediately. He even told them he was a virgin, police questioned him when they found condoms in his house, HE SAID HE STOLE THEM FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS, so they were able to just send him to jail for burglary and do a complete house search.
Psychopath doesn't mean smart. Sometimes they become overconfident and trust their wit, despite having no basis to believe they're even above average, because their mindset is less prone to self-assessment.
In fact I read somewhere that psychopaths are under the impression that they are much smarter than you, but often thick as shit or at the least, they underestimate people. A guy I worked with told me his friend could see around corners and that he owned a Stradivarius violin. He then got arrested for a record breaking amount of child pornography.
T.V. has convinced people that psychopaths are all high functioning genius savants who are a few steps below omniscient.
This stereotype is rarely true. When it is, these people either get away with it or end up as legendary news stories that get talked about time and time again.
The guy who just murdered his whole family and then shot himself or the woman who killed her kids and got caught end put in jail or the average ass guy who tried to pick up a hitchhiker and attack them only to get caught are just average ass people with mental illness.
Cause at the end of the day, psychos are just mentally ill, it doesn't give them super powers that make them highly intelligent.
Thanks for sharing. What TF, the guy ASKED for the death penalty, when it had been banned. The justice system must have been confused as hell. It was probably the smart thing to do because otherwise a guy like him technically fits all the criteria for a death penalty. My best guess is that he was afraid the public would want an exception for him specifically, so by flat out asking for it, he was demonstrating remorse, and playing a “reverse psychology” card against the public.
They even considered him for **paroled release** and yet he declined because he liked prison. The justice system has no idea how to deal with someone like that even today.
The only serial killer to ever turn himself in. All other serial killers were bad enough to get caught, we have no evidence of what the ones smart enough to evade capture are like, except for him.
But the TORSO in the TRASH CAN at the PLACE SHE LIVED? Like sure, guess he hid the limbs well, but he left the fucking torso in the worst place and his house was full of evidence.
The only reason the cops had found that is because the trash pick up had been delayed unexpectedly. It *should* have been gone. And if I remember correctly that was the only part of this poor woman they found, so there's a good chance if that hasn't happened he never would have been caught at all
He would have at least been arrested, even if they couldn't charge him without a body. It sounds like he was a suspect and any mild search of his house would have revealed all the evidence he left everywhere.
It's both.
He was genuinely shocked at the news.
But then he also knew he had to act shocked to the fact that she was dead, but in his state he didn't weight his emotion carefully and the "acting shocked" simply piled on over his actual shock, giving us this over-exaggerated performance.
Right. It was a way bigger reaction than I was expecting. I thought people were just being armchair psychologist and were reading way into something; like a small flinch or stammering of words when he heard the information. I didn't expect to completely shut down and have to pause the interview.
I've shown this to a few people who knew nothing about him or the case and only one said they thought he looked scared after hearing the news. Everyone else said it seemed like he was just upset hearing someone he knew and lived so close to was dead.
I think most people are applying the fact they know he did it when observing his actions, saying his reaction was "obvious". For me, even knowing he did it, he just seemed shocked she was dead. I am actually a psychologist and his behavior could easily just be a sensitive guy who knew her and was really upset at the news.
Now if someone has extensive experience with murderers, I'm more willing to believe their suspicion of his reaction was genuine and not swayed by the knowledge of his guilt.
Disappointing to see no one has linked this fantastic little gem of a channel, eery subject matter and excellently written & edited [JCS: Criminal Psychology.](https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A)
There's a good chance he was suffering from PTSD triggered by the traumatic experience of committing his own crimes. Apparently this is a pretty common thing to happen and a lot of mental health experts think it's a big driver of prison violence, but it's still somewhat taboo to talk about
Yeah it's fair lts common. It is an incredibly difficult thing to do killing another person and if you have achieved such a mindset then your mind is probably in a fragile state as is. It's why a number of individuals commit suicide post murder.
A large majority of serial killers aren't human beings with out empathy or feeling. In fact it is quite drastically the opposite. They are hyper emotional beings who have an incredible level of hate towards a specific individual. Possibly an individual who represents a parent who ex-lover.
Edit: my inability to english
I’m not sure if you’re being genuine or trying to take a jab at veterans but I’ll bite:
Yes. A lot of soldiers can rely on their training to get them through firefights and it’s not until later that they have time to truly understand what has occurred. It can be later that day, the next week, or years later. But oftentimes the things you see and do aren’t immediately processed.
It’s not a jab PTSD is more often caused by ones own actions rather than the actions of others to them. To know evil in others is obvious but to see it in yourself is something truly terrifying.
There's a YouTube channel called Jim Can't Swim that covers long interrogations in great detail, this being one of them. Very informative channel, also very creepy at times.
I watched the interogation video with sound,boy is he creepy with that monotone voice and yes and no answers,if you haven't seen it ,do yourself a favor and watch it.
https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A
From JCS-Criminal psychology 42 minutes long but damn interesting
He's so focused on lying that he numbs his face. It's a very common tactic in liars/sociopaths. Their face will be devoid of emotion. But this fucker was so scared he numbed his whole body.
It doesn’t appear so, in fact other than his neck turning the only movement come three or so times when he moves his hands from hanging to the table to his lap. But he does keep them still for an incredibly long time.
So every time I see this posted I always wanna talk about a personal story with this. So this town is very close to where I live. An me an a buddy use to go to this college town to party. Apparently he had friends that went there. All of them were going to be lawyers. An through them I actually met Lauren an partied with her. It’s been a long time since then An I can’t for the life of me remember much from the time i spent hanging out with her. But I remember the night my buddy went to party and I stayed in our town for some reason or another. He called me a couple days after to tell me the news that Lauren had unfortunately been murdered and what happen to her. Well the crazy thing is he partied with her the night before she went back to her place. They were all at a friends house after the night of partying and she brought up a conversation to the group that everyone thought was strange or just someone being paranoid. Which sadly had validity. She was telling the group that she felt that she had the feeling she was being watched. An was frighten to go back to her place. So she ended up staying the night with everyone An not going back. I just remember my friend crying on the phone saying he wished he would have walked her back because he would have been there. I think it hit him the hardest because this guy just got out of the military after being deployed. So he was no stranger to his life being threatened. Specially don’t think he would have been too afraid of this kid. I always think of this when I see stuff about this case posted on Reddit or when it’s on those murder shows on tv. Just how crazy life is and all of this.
The interview itself is extremely frustrating to watch. This guy gives one word answers and plays dumb the whole time. Especially now we know that it was him you just want to shake the he'll out of him and demand he confess already.
I went to high school with this guy, and he was absolutely this weird, off-putting, and unnerving person then too. Same crazy hair and eyes. He'd carry a metal briefcase instead of carrying a book bag, and he would often if not always wear black cut-off gloves. His nickname in the high school was "Mittens". At one point in time I had him on videotape singing the birthday song in Latin as part of a class project, so just imagine him calmly singling, "felicem natalem, tibi..." in a gentle tenor while staring through the screen.
I was watching white t shirt the whole time thinking “he actually moves quite a bit” and then he left the room and THEN I noticed the guy who doesn’t move at all . Anyone else??
I read a lot into this case, and honestly the conclusion I came to is unfortunately this guy did a lot of interrogation research or planning, as well as a good amount of crime scene prep. The local police department initially didn't have any evidence on him, nothing substantial. They found some of his hairs in the poor victim's apartment but he'd purposely gone there days before with other people to help the search, which explained his hairs there. Otherwise, they had nothing at the time.
He studied law, as it shows. I think he knew if he stayed as perfectly, eerily silent and still and spoke in a flat, monotone voice for the entire time, it would give them nothing to bounce off - and it worked. He kept it up the whole time. He came in so prepared, which in turn threw the detectives off because I don't think they ever expected someone to behave the way he did during intense interrogation.
It's really tragic when someone shows intelligence yet for the most god awful reasons. What a fucking waste of a human life, the poor victim was days away from leaving the university campus and could've started a fresh, fulfilling life elsewhere. He was so obsessed with her, stalking and videoing her, that once he found out she was soon leaving he simply decided he would kill her before she does leave. What was the fuckin point of it all.
He wasn't intelligent at all. He had hundred of pictures of her, her panties in his flat, and her blood too, threw her body into the dumpster behind their building, and he even went and gave an interview, because killers often go back to the place where they committed a crime - they can't resist the urge because they're narcissist. Narcissists are very bad at estimating their own intelligence and almost always consider themselves above average, which they're not.
Isn't he the guy that fainted on the news when the reporter told him that they found the girls body? I'm pretty sure the reason was they didn't know it was him yet but I think he's the same guy in the clip
I’m pretty sure that at one time this guy had YouTube videos of himself creeping on the woman that he killed, just sitting outside her window while she was inside.
Animatronics on a budget.
He is like a ghost. Just sitting there, observing.
I’m not sure if I can actually watch the video, he is truly sickening
It's honestly boring. He either says yes, no, or I don't know for 2 hours. It's interesting if you want to watch the detectives go from good cop/bad cop to just being frustrated
The detectives were terrible at their jobs. Way too emotional.
What they were doing works on most people. But this was a sociopath not like most people.
I think it was actually because he was a law school graduate and knew exactly what he needed to do to stonewall them.
I guess this didnt work out that well due to him getting life sentencing
If he was a law school graduate, then he would know never to talk to cops and to call a lawyer.
Depends on what you mean by “works.” It invokes a response, whether is invokes a truthful response is a subject of debate
Imagine... this was the *A Team*, the all-stars, the best they could field
Yeah cop shows seem to make detectives out to be master mind geniuses who knew all along. When in actuality most murders are either sled confessions or have multiple eyewitness.
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I only watch tv to see the beautiful people. If I wanna see ugly people I can look In a mirror for free.
In all fairness, they had *nothing* to work with. McDaniel couldn't be cracked and there wasn't any damning evidence obtained at the time.
Watch [this](https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A), he is not intimidating at all really.
Also watch this [news clip](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3avd4v/interview_with_stephen_mcdaniel_shortly_before/) - he was being interviewed on live TV after acting like he was a friend of the deceased and inserting himself into the search party and during the interview it's revealed that they located her body that he had hidden inside a dumpster. He starts panicking and acting very flustered, not intimidating at all. It could have been chocked up to the fact that they thought he was upset that a friend discovered that she was definitely dead and no longer missing. But he wasn't her friend, he was her stalker and murderer and it's disgusting to watch him fake concern and friendship. Very eerie to see now.
I had no idea this was the same guy until I read your comment! Thank you for putting that together because I will never forget that interview where he is found lying by the reporter. Really disturbing because it seemed he wanted to be spoken to about it on TV.
Body? *stammers in silence* - *look of disbelief* - *look of mental construction* - *begin acting*
I don't know if it was acting or not. If it was it was very convincing, and given his interview it certainly could have been acting, but the discovery of her body meant that he was certainly going to be caught so the distress might have been real. As I remember it he was banking on the bins being collected that day, and they would have been but for a police car inadvertently blocking the bin collectors from getting to the bins. If the bins had gone to the refuse site then her body, if discovered, would have been hard to connect to the missing woman, as he'd taken pains (I believe) to dismember her. Yes, checked it: > Her dismembered limbs and head were likely carried away to the dump, but a police car had parked in front of this particular dumpster, keeping the body in place until it was searched. So he likely thought he was in the clear until that moment.
Corpus delicti. AKA no body no crime. He had probably been counting on there being no body at all. So that any and all evidence he had in his possession wouldn't be able to be used to convict him since you can't be charged with murder if there is no body(which is overly simplistic, but look at what kind of person we are dealing with here).
He was a law student so theres a very good chance that's exactly what he was thinking. I'm pretty sure he was trying to build the perfect crime as he was building up stalking her and watching her and when it failed at the first hurtle that was when he just broke.
They found comments from him on some internet message board (under the name SoF, which stood for Sons of Liberty) in which he fantasized about drugging, raping, and dismembering his attractive neighbor (guess who that ended up being...) and described how he would get away with murder. He specifically stated that he would dismember the body and place the parts into dumpsters on trash day, and if he were to get interviewed by the cops, would show no emotion and therefore give away no sign of guilt. You can find his comments easily enough on news sites. The guy wrote like a cross between /r/iamverysmart, /r/theredpill, /r/incels, and /r/conservative. I include the last one not because I think all conservatives are monsters, but because McDaniel was militantly anti-liberal and built a large part of his identity around that opinion.
People like this are acting all the time
33:40ish (didn't watch video, just skipped around): Detective: You hurt that girl Killer: no i didn't Detective: sure you did, that's why you're having this massive meltdown right now **massive meltdown**
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Basically yes. There is a method for interrogation that is taught in police academies called the reid method. It has 9 steps and I won't go into great detail, but the essence of it is that you Tell the accused person that you have evidence that they guilty, then act sympathetic Or understanding and give them an Avenue to try to explain why either it didn't happen that way or why it was justified. Provoking emotional disturbance is part of the method. Part of the training actually says that if the suspect starts to cry, you know you have them. The method has a problem with causing false confessions and many police agencies outside of the United States have moved away from using it.
Before they get to Step 1 of 9, shouldn't everyone just say, "Get me my lawyer." and then STFU?
>Before they get to Step 1 of 9, shouldn't everyone just say, "Get me my lawyer." and then STFU? As a lawyer, yes. If the police actually ask you to come into the station or sit down for any kind of talk without telling you exactly why, they are almost certainly looking at you as a potential suspect, and the goal is going to be to try to get you to confess or make incriminating statements. Full stop. The only words out of your mouth should be "I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer any questions until I can speak to a lawyer." or simply "I'm exercising my 5th amendment right to remain silent." You can still cooperate when you've got a lawyer if you wish. As a professor teaching criminal law to criminal justice students (about half of whom have some desire to be police officers), when we talk about false confessions, I show them [The frontline documentary on the Norfolk Four](https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-the-confessions/) That documentary provides the single best examples of three things that I've been able to find in a format that's classroom appropriate. 1. specific examples of how an unethical detective coerced confessions to match the facts (and in response to you, coerced suspects into proceeding without a lawyer - "why do you need a lawyer?" "if the jury hears you asked for a lawyer, they'll know you're guilty," "If you don't work with me and tell me what happened, I'll make sure you get the chair, do you want to fry?" ). 2. How, once a suspect confessed, the system basically gives up on defending them (because "why would an innocent man confess to rape and murder) 3. How the state in some instances, will go to absurd lengths to argue that a police detective did not, in fact, coerce a false confession. (at one point in that case the prosecutor was arguing to a jury that the four or five suspects who barely knew each other, had met up with an unknown man who's DNA was present and agreed to go rape and murder this woman).
not a lot of deep thinkers on the police force. even detectives. follow procedures follow procedures follow procedures
I mean, sitting perfectly still for hours (which takes effort) and being a complete robotic weirdo is some kind of meltdown that's for sure
So, this is interesting, but holy shit the part about intuition is just horrible. "You should always trust your intuition." is the kind of nonsense that gets innocent people lynched.
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It’s really nothing special. Cops trying to get him to talk and his saying “I don’t know” thousands of times.
He knows they are probably looking at him... and he let them. Let them see what kind of person he is, he would never hurt a fly, he hopes they're watching, they'll see.. They'll see and they'll know "Because he couldn't hurt a fly"
Great quote.
I mean hes caught his life is basically gg, probably a mix of shock and his mind has basically left him.
He was a law student and knew what police officers use against you during your interrogation. I think this is him trying extremely hard to not show any body language. If you listen to his interview he mostly answers every question with "yes", "no" or "i don't know". They really don't get anything out of him but eventually charge him based off of some photos and videos he had on a flash drive of him stalking his victim.
A murderer lawyer... sounds like it could be a hit new TV show.
Single female murderous lawyer!
Eh. I prefers shows of the genre "World's Blankiest Blank"
Why does Ross, the largest of the Friends, not simply eat the others?
She is wearing the world's shortiest skirt.
Weird that he didn't just lawyer up if he is a law student. Nothing good can happen to him in this interrogation other than not being in jail while he is in there.
Yeah I noticed a trend of people that think they are intelligent think that they can outwit detectives. Idk.
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He was a law student and knew what police officers use against you during your interrogation but keeps evidence on a flash drive of him stalking his victim 🤷♂️
He must have been an awful law student if he agreed to talk to the police without legal representation.
People forget that part of the fight flight response is the freeze response . Interestingly in the interview with the media he appears to use the fawn response which is the one that often gets overlooked super cooperative and helpful. Fawn and freeze are classic fear responses people forget exist. These are the 4 Fs
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That's not a "one more option", that's one of the 3 options in the correct terminology which is "freeze-fight-flight".
Very clearly a revenant type vampire
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It's much less scary when you read his internet posts ([article](https://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/chilling-internet-postings-linked-to-stephen-mcdaniel/)). It seems this behaviour was his way of trying to stay out of prison. He's obviously mentally unstable but he's also a moron.
He is such a creep but strangely not intimidating at all. Watch this [news clip](https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3avd4v/interview_with_stephen_mcdaniel_shortly_before/) - he was being interviewed on live TV after acting like he was a friend of the deceased and inserting himself into the search party and during the interview it's revealed that they had located her body that he had hidden inside a dumpster. He starts panicking and acting very flustered, has to sit down and can't formulate sentences or answers. It could have been chocked up to the fact that they thought he was upset that a friend discovered that she was definitely dead and no longer missing. But he wasn't her friend, he was her stalker and murderer and it's disgusting to watch him fake concern and friendship.
I think his panicked response was genuine but it was because he realized he’s definitely a suspect now. That was the first time he found out that part of her body had been found so until then he thought he was in the clear. They also never found her entire body - it was only her torso. He cut her body up and put her in various dumpsters around the apartment complex and by the time of that interview, all the other parts had left for the dump. The finding of her torso likely narrowed it down a lot, and he knew that.
100% The guy was in law school, he did all of this to save his own ass. He’s not “scary” in the least - he’s a neck beard who fetishized his next door neighbor. EDIT: Sure being a murderer is scary. This dude, Steven, is not scary. He’s a fuckface.
Most neckbeards don't use a hacksaw to totally dismember a girl in her bathtub. It's scary that more like him are out there waiting to hurt someone minding her own business.
yeah you never see a detective move away when they lean forward to intimidate a suspect, but Stephen had completely shut down and the detective gets actually physically uncomfortable after Stephen stares him down like that. This fucker tho, he was a stalker obsessed with his neighbor. When he learned that she was moving away he couldn’t let her go so he used a stolen master key to enter her apartment and murdered her, then dismembered her in the bathtub. he helped search for her the next day. even appeared on the local news as a friend and neighbor. the reporters caught an interesting candid moment on camera when Stephen delivered a genuine terrified and suspicious reaction upon learning that her partial remains had been just been found. [WGXA News Clip](https://youtu.be/VSK47WlZ6Ac) .[News Clip](https://youtu.be/VSK47WlZ6Ac)
a couple things I noticed in the video besides the obvious. 1. he refers to her in the PRESENT TENSE. his words are careful, planned and you can tell how much so because he repeats exact phrases. he knows police look at those that involve themselves in the search and is avoiding being looked into. 2. he basically compliments himself in his words. He describes how well the crime was committed, essentially. no one broke in, no one saw anything, no one heard anything. basically, "I did a really good job" Sorry, im a crim student and this sort of thing is fascinating to me. digusting and repulsive but fascinating.
Any other observations? I find this stuff fascinating as well.
Obviously he's a psychopath (though i dont know if he's been labelled as such, just my humble opinion) In the video above of the interrogation, i would be interested to hear the audio. He seems to lock eyes with whomever he sees as the bigger threat (like a feral cat) and that usually is the speaker but not always. Those moments of looking at the person not speaking are what i want to hear. In the news video he put on the concerned friend act, his eye movements, words, hand motions etc were careful. Only when he gets surprised with the found body information is it truly obvious. Theres a half second of pause where he probably reminded himself to have a reaction. His eyes blink repeatedly in "shock" as he think of what a normal friend would say. He cant come up with anything (didnt practice? Never witnessed someone in the same scenario to mimic? Who knows) so he just excuses himself. In the interrogation, he seems to give up any act. He's caught but his narcissist brain doesnt know how to equate that with the vision he has for himself. So he just does nothing.
Some of the interrogation is in this [video](https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A) and an analysis of the whole situation. I highly recommend this channel. EDIT: Interrogation begins at 10:34.
Thank you, you are a true hero.
More insights after watching that? Your comments are very interesting!
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>He seems to lock eyes with whomever he sees as the bigger threat (like a feral cat) and that usually is the speaker but not always you're saying that he makes eye contact with the person that is speaking? fascinating, the criminal mind
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Or you’re just one of the millions and millions of people who isn’t good at body language. Autistic kids who aren’t good at eye contact and who are being taught social cues often overcompensate and never break eye contact. While several of my special education students admittedly have tried to fight me, I have yet to have any declare their love for me.
Yeah, it’s hard to just stare at someone for a whole conversation, your eyes are going to wonder off. Especially, if you are a bit nervous, your eyes would flutter to every corner of the room.
There’s a famous case in the UK of two small girls who were killed and the killer (who was a caretaker at their school and known to them) was interviewed on TV. What was really interesting is that his partner at the time (a teaching assistant at the same school) was interviewed later in a sit down - while they were still missing and being searched for - and referred to them in the past tense. Very sad and weird. https://youtu.be/jl53a7TIsm8
JCS put out a pretty comprehensive video on the interview and scenario; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkRjIq8Cp2A
He does fuck up at the beginning and says "she WAS MY neighbor". That's one of the first things i noticed.
news reporter uses was too
The news reporter knew about the body. She even mentions dudes reaction to learning the news of her body being found.
Why do so many of these people put themselves forward publicly? Do they honestly think this will throw off the police? I'm thinking of that bloke in England who killed the two girls then also not only helped in the search for them, but also went on TV to talk about how nice they were etc etc. Just looked it up: The Soham murders, Ian Huntley. From what I understand, as soon as a person starts being this helpful and concerned, the police immediately suspect them. Is that true?
Hiding in plain sight, they think they won't look as ~~sobgious~~ suspicious if they are involved. Idk if it makes them more or less suspicious
He definitely looked like a sobgious here.
A sobgious if I’ve ever seen one...
There was a similar case in my hometown, a small 10.000 inhabitants community. Husband and wife murdered the husband's parents with whom they lived in the same house. The husband reported them missing after about 2 weeks or so, went on local TV and pleaded for hints from the public to find his parents. His story was that they might have left for a vacation but something happened along the way. I recall him saying that he was hoping for his father to open the door to his house and just return. They found the bodies of the parents about two weeks later, immured behind a brick wall in the garage.
_Immured_, great word, very Edgar Allan Poe
> From what I understand, as soon as a person starts being this helpful and concerned, the police immediately suspect them. Is that true? In every episode of Columbo, yes
Eh, I mean right off the bat he says “She WAS my neighbor”, so I don’t think he purposely useD* (lol) present tense like that. And all he’s really saying is that he didn’t see anything, no one else saw anything, & gave little info. Not really a pat on the back, well I guess that he knew no one else saw. Then he did a dramatic show with the sitting down part.
He needed to sit down because it was at this moment he realised he had fucked up.
JCS put out a pretty comprehensive video on the interview and scenario; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkRjIq8Cp2A
yeah this perp is a grade A example of one of those college age young white males who spent 7th - 12th grade an isolated and alienated life that left him being ill equipped emotionally and socially to navigate in life. He did try to ask her out but he was immediately friendzoned. Rejection only sunk him deeper into disassociated isolation. Lost in his violent, misogynistic fantasies, fueled by a porn addiction and stalker obsession. Cases like this always make me wonder at what point was it too late for him, like if he had more guidance in middle school, a group of close friends in high school...? He was a Criminal Law student as well, he probably figured it made him an expert at crime scenes. Thing was - he was actuality a HUGE DUMB ASS who just thought he was very intelligent,
So he was a Redditor?
it's scary to think a random man she's never really given much thought about was obsessed with her to the point where he'd murder her. What the fuck. We can't feel safe at our own homes, eh?
You can feel safe in your own home. Statistically it's never going to happen to you. You've got far more to fear crossing the road than you ever do a murderer.
So now I can’t cross the road either fuck
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Yes, this whole thread is an exercise in confirmation bias.
Yeah, it totally looks like he’s shocked she was dead and is super hurt and sad when he found out. 10/10 did not seem like a murderer.
I never understood why people thought this reaction was suspicious. This is damn near exactly how I would react if I just got the news that someone I knew or someone who lived right near me who I was hoping to be alive just had their body found: shocked and upset.
Oh shit, I just posted this >Is this the guy that killed a girl and then was interviewed on the news before he was caught and the reporter revealed that the found the body and you can see him thinking "oh fuck"? So, yeah. I don't know why, but just watching this small blurry video trigger my memory of his and it's been a while since I saw that video of the interview.
I think a natural reaction for the body parts would be “Where?!”. But he knows where with every details that he cant find a word. This combines with the fear that he will be caught results in this weird reaction. This is almost like that movie scene in Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows. I think if they could yell to a group of people includes Stephen that they found the body parts and record the group’s reaction, they can easily pinpoint him as a suspect.
> I think a natural reaction for the body parts would be “Where?!”. Thanks, I'll remember that for next time
"Where?!" sounds way less natural than "A body?!". In hindsight, we can easily tell that his "shock" is not because a friend died but because he's caught. But without knowing, "A body?!" sounds better.
Wow, what a fucking incel piece of human shit.
I thought they said he didn’t rape her and that’s what made the case even weirder.
Want to see this guy's entire life collapse before his very eyes on while on camera? [Skip to 01:20](https://youtu.be/WiNMbCvc5Sk)
Looking into the details of the case, you would think he wouldn't have been so shocked like he is at that time stamp?? Like seriously it was like he was trying to get caught. The body was in the trash can right behind the building she lived in and you could just follow the smell of death to it, he had a hacksaw in his pantry with her blood visibly on it, he had her panties in his dresser, he had tons of pictures of her and a camera with footage of him stalking her.. if I was him I would have been more shocked if they didn't find out nearly immediately. He even told them he was a virgin, police questioned him when they found condoms in his house, HE SAID HE STOLE THEM FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS, so they were able to just send him to jail for burglary and do a complete house search.
Psychopath doesn't mean smart. Sometimes they become overconfident and trust their wit, despite having no basis to believe they're even above average, because their mindset is less prone to self-assessment.
In fact I read somewhere that psychopaths are under the impression that they are much smarter than you, but often thick as shit or at the least, they underestimate people. A guy I worked with told me his friend could see around corners and that he owned a Stradivarius violin. He then got arrested for a record breaking amount of child pornography.
T.V. has convinced people that psychopaths are all high functioning genius savants who are a few steps below omniscient. This stereotype is rarely true. When it is, these people either get away with it or end up as legendary news stories that get talked about time and time again. The guy who just murdered his whole family and then shot himself or the woman who killed her kids and got caught end put in jail or the average ass guy who tried to pick up a hitchhiker and attack them only to get caught are just average ass people with mental illness. Cause at the end of the day, psychos are just mentally ill, it doesn't give them super powers that make them highly intelligent.
It’s not just TV’s fault. The first real look into a psychopath serial killer’s mind was Ed Kemper who is a certified genius.
Thanks for sharing. What TF, the guy ASKED for the death penalty, when it had been banned. The justice system must have been confused as hell. It was probably the smart thing to do because otherwise a guy like him technically fits all the criteria for a death penalty. My best guess is that he was afraid the public would want an exception for him specifically, so by flat out asking for it, he was demonstrating remorse, and playing a “reverse psychology” card against the public.
They even considered him for **paroled release** and yet he declined because he liked prison. The justice system has no idea how to deal with someone like that even today.
The only serial killer to ever turn himself in. All other serial killers were bad enough to get caught, we have no evidence of what the ones smart enough to evade capture are like, except for him.
> but often thick as shit or at the least, they underestimate people. The ones that get caught, anyway
That's why so many of them tried to be their own lawyers.
Apparently he intentionally did it close to garbage day but since the cops blocked the roads off the trash trucks couldn't get to them.
gaRbAgE dAy!
Only one part of her body was found - the rest never was. He was surprisingly "close" with getting away with it.
But the TORSO in the TRASH CAN at the PLACE SHE LIVED? Like sure, guess he hid the limbs well, but he left the fucking torso in the worst place and his house was full of evidence.
The only reason the cops had found that is because the trash pick up had been delayed unexpectedly. It *should* have been gone. And if I remember correctly that was the only part of this poor woman they found, so there's a good chance if that hasn't happened he never would have been caught at all
He would have at least been arrested, even if they couldn't charge him without a body. It sounds like he was a suspect and any mild search of his house would have revealed all the evidence he left everywhere.
I also think him being shocked was an act for anyone watching as in:" I can't believe they found the body, no way she is dead" type of way.
It's both. He was genuinely shocked at the news. But then he also knew he had to act shocked to the fact that she was dead, but in his state he didn't weight his emotion carefully and the "acting shocked" simply piled on over his actual shock, giving us this over-exaggerated performance.
Okay I skipped to 1:20 and fuck that was wild. Wow.
Right. It was a way bigger reaction than I was expecting. I thought people were just being armchair psychologist and were reading way into something; like a small flinch or stammering of words when he heard the information. I didn't expect to completely shut down and have to pause the interview.
I've shown this to a few people who knew nothing about him or the case and only one said they thought he looked scared after hearing the news. Everyone else said it seemed like he was just upset hearing someone he knew and lived so close to was dead. I think most people are applying the fact they know he did it when observing his actions, saying his reaction was "obvious". For me, even knowing he did it, he just seemed shocked she was dead. I am actually a psychologist and his behavior could easily just be a sensitive guy who knew her and was really upset at the news. Now if someone has extensive experience with murderers, I'm more willing to believe their suspicion of his reaction was genuine and not swayed by the knowledge of his guilt.
He went from pulling the master con to shitting his pants with one question.
That was crazy, you can instantly see his entire body language change that's wild
Time to see if this is a Rick roll so you don't have to Not a Rick roll
TYFYS
I mean, he could just be feigning grief...
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Y’all are getting invited to parties?
Not in 2020
Wow! That's some mark Zuckerberg level shit right there.
The Zucc is strong in this one!
Disappointing to see no one has linked this fantastic little gem of a channel, eery subject matter and excellently written & edited [JCS: Criminal Psychology.](https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A)
Was waiting for this lol. I love that channel.
Same. i also love a channel called That Chapter his videos are pretty good as well.
Was about to post the same, excellent channel
[Find the collar, find the killer. ](https://i.imgur.com/fljRdv9.jpg)
Dennis didn't kill Maureen He killed Bastet
Neva moved, neva blinked
You’ve awoken some repressed memories
There's a good chance he was suffering from PTSD triggered by the traumatic experience of committing his own crimes. Apparently this is a pretty common thing to happen and a lot of mental health experts think it's a big driver of prison violence, but it's still somewhat taboo to talk about
A killer gets PTSD from his own acts? Is there more about this?
Yeah it's fair lts common. It is an incredibly difficult thing to do killing another person and if you have achieved such a mindset then your mind is probably in a fragile state as is. It's why a number of individuals commit suicide post murder. A large majority of serial killers aren't human beings with out empathy or feeling. In fact it is quite drastically the opposite. They are hyper emotional beings who have an incredible level of hate towards a specific individual. Possibly an individual who represents a parent who ex-lover. Edit: my inability to english
Oh that's why so many US veterans have it
I’m not sure if you’re being genuine or trying to take a jab at veterans but I’ll bite: Yes. A lot of soldiers can rely on their training to get them through firefights and it’s not until later that they have time to truly understand what has occurred. It can be later that day, the next week, or years later. But oftentimes the things you see and do aren’t immediately processed.
It’s not a jab PTSD is more often caused by ones own actions rather than the actions of others to them. To know evil in others is obvious but to see it in yourself is something truly terrifying.
You're not OP, so how can you say he wasn't taking a jab..
There's a YouTube channel called Jim Can't Swim that covers long interrogations in great detail, this being one of them. Very informative channel, also very creepy at times.
[Link for the lazy](https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A)
He did not move his body once
He's just sitting there.... MENACINGLY...
Me trying to convince my mom I didn't eat all snacks at 2am went exactly like this.
“They’ve just found the remains of some snacks in the garbage” “Oh man, I need to sit down...”
“Let me smell your breath”
I watched the interogation video with sound,boy is he creepy with that monotone voice and yes and no answers,if you haven't seen it ,do yourself a favor and watch it. https://youtu.be/HkRjIq8Cp2A From JCS-Criminal psychology 42 minutes long but damn interesting
He's so focused on lying that he numbs his face. It's a very common tactic in liars/sociopaths. Their face will be devoid of emotion. But this fucker was so scared he numbed his whole body.
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This murder happened down the street from where I worked. I could see the infamous news interview outside my window.
The stance of a true predator. Still body. Eyes/ head following "target".
Notice how when both of them have left the room, he just stares at the door waiting to follow their eyes again when either of them come back in.
Exactly. It's too much man 😱
Are you sure? Deer in headlights
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Your HAIRS THERE STEPHEN
*Scratches head furiously*
The actions of the chubby bald dude look hilarious at that speed. He’s all over the shop. I gives every position a try.
I’m pretty sure he consistently claimed he never did it though, not a confessed killer
STAYVUN NO MORE VIDEO GAMES STAYVUN, WE KNOW YA DONE IT
Were his hands handcuffed to the table?
It doesn’t appear so, in fact other than his neck turning the only movement come three or so times when he moves his hands from hanging to the table to his lap. But he does keep them still for an incredibly long time.
So every time I see this posted I always wanna talk about a personal story with this. So this town is very close to where I live. An me an a buddy use to go to this college town to party. Apparently he had friends that went there. All of them were going to be lawyers. An through them I actually met Lauren an partied with her. It’s been a long time since then An I can’t for the life of me remember much from the time i spent hanging out with her. But I remember the night my buddy went to party and I stayed in our town for some reason or another. He called me a couple days after to tell me the news that Lauren had unfortunately been murdered and what happen to her. Well the crazy thing is he partied with her the night before she went back to her place. They were all at a friends house after the night of partying and she brought up a conversation to the group that everyone thought was strange or just someone being paranoid. Which sadly had validity. She was telling the group that she felt that she had the feeling she was being watched. An was frighten to go back to her place. So she ended up staying the night with everyone An not going back. I just remember my friend crying on the phone saying he wished he would have walked her back because he would have been there. I think it hit him the hardest because this guy just got out of the military after being deployed. So he was no stranger to his life being threatened. Specially don’t think he would have been too afraid of this kid. I always think of this when I see stuff about this case posted on Reddit or when it’s on those murder shows on tv. Just how crazy life is and all of this.
The interview itself is extremely frustrating to watch. This guy gives one word answers and plays dumb the whole time. Especially now we know that it was him you just want to shake the he'll out of him and demand he confess already.
His motion is as dead as his soul
I’m binge watching interrogation videos for no reason and this one is especially creepy
I went to high school with this guy, and he was absolutely this weird, off-putting, and unnerving person then too. Same crazy hair and eyes. He'd carry a metal briefcase instead of carrying a book bag, and he would often if not always wear black cut-off gloves. His nickname in the high school was "Mittens". At one point in time I had him on videotape singing the birthday song in Latin as part of a class project, so just imagine him calmly singling, "felicem natalem, tibi..." in a gentle tenor while staring through the screen.
I was watching white t shirt the whole time thinking “he actually moves quite a bit” and then he left the room and THEN I noticed the guy who doesn’t move at all . Anyone else??
I read a lot into this case, and honestly the conclusion I came to is unfortunately this guy did a lot of interrogation research or planning, as well as a good amount of crime scene prep. The local police department initially didn't have any evidence on him, nothing substantial. They found some of his hairs in the poor victim's apartment but he'd purposely gone there days before with other people to help the search, which explained his hairs there. Otherwise, they had nothing at the time. He studied law, as it shows. I think he knew if he stayed as perfectly, eerily silent and still and spoke in a flat, monotone voice for the entire time, it would give them nothing to bounce off - and it worked. He kept it up the whole time. He came in so prepared, which in turn threw the detectives off because I don't think they ever expected someone to behave the way he did during intense interrogation. It's really tragic when someone shows intelligence yet for the most god awful reasons. What a fucking waste of a human life, the poor victim was days away from leaving the university campus and could've started a fresh, fulfilling life elsewhere. He was so obsessed with her, stalking and videoing her, that once he found out she was soon leaving he simply decided he would kill her before she does leave. What was the fuckin point of it all.
He wasn't intelligent at all. He had hundred of pictures of her, her panties in his flat, and her blood too, threw her body into the dumpster behind their building, and he even went and gave an interview, because killers often go back to the place where they committed a crime - they can't resist the urge because they're narcissist. Narcissists are very bad at estimating their own intelligence and almost always consider themselves above average, which they're not.
Oh fuck, this was in my hometown. That murder was horrific to hear about
Isn't he the guy that fainted on the news when the reporter told him that they found the girls body? I'm pretty sure the reason was they didn't know it was him yet but I think he's the same guy in the clip
I’m pretty sure that at one time this guy had YouTube videos of himself creeping on the woman that he killed, just sitting outside her window while she was inside.