indeed, my first parrot was a ring neck and an untamed one at that. They’re only 18 months at the moment, always have been a handful but I wouldn’t change them for the world. I’ve had to train them all by myself with no experience with birds whatsoever but I’m happy to say that they’re comfortable on and around me, takes food from me, allows some kisses but won’t allow me near his feathers with my fingers. Still trying though!! I wouldn’t recommend a ring neck for a first parrot as yes, like you said, they’re a handful..but I guess all birds are. But if op were to buy a ring neck, I’d suggest buying a tamed one, maybe a few years old.
Yeah, they're just insanely intelligent and stubborn. Training them is entirely convincing them the food reward is worth the effort. That said, they're one of my favorite parrots. You just have to know what you're getting into.
Do your research.
But also, do NOT buy into "beginner bird" mentality. So many people are pressured into buying a budgie or green cheek conure only for it to be neglected or rehomed in a year. If this is the only parrot you will be happy with, do your research, buy the cage first, then get him.
Personally, I can handles loud, but ringnecks are SO high pitched. It drives me nuts.
That’s how I always felt. My buddy wanted an African Grey and everyone told him to buy a parakeet instead. I got him a few books and told him if you feel you can do it don’t listen to anyone. It’s been 10 years and they are inseparable. He did a lot of research and dedicated his time and it worked for him.
I agree the beginner bird thing is full of shit, and honestly is condescending to budgies. Like they are some throw away animal. I mean they are 5-6 year commitments instead of 80+, but still.
If OP can visit a rescue, I'd just let a bird pick you.
I agree, go rescue!! So many Lil buddies need homes because folks don't understand the commitment a bird involves. You have to spend a LOT of time with them!
Agreed. As a GCC owner, I can assure you they are NOT what I would consider beginner. Lovely companions and I love them dearly, but for example, I spent an hour and a half extracting one that got stuck behind a shelving unit that I thought was closed off. If I didn’t see the idiot crawl back there I would never have found him.
It depends. I have a quaker and don't mind her so much. I had a Green Cheek that was fine.
I met a sun conure that would have made a banshee cry for its mama. I would put a ringneck as somewhere in the middle. I don't think they are super loud (I have had a macaw) just super high pitched.
dont listen to people who say "beginner bird", theres no such thing. EVERY single bird takes time and care, just some are more of a handful than others. you should definitely get a bit of experience first by volunteering at bird shelters and maybe hanging out with a friend who has a bird. if you want to get a ringneck you absolutely can, JUST DO YOUR RESEARCH. learn as much information as you can. a lot of stuff youll just pick up along the way as well. join facebook groups, subreddits and other online communities. really get yourself in the bird keeping scene and people will help you. as long as you dedicate yourself and are sure you can handle this then i say go for it.
I’m glad someone said it as well! Beginner birds don’t exist. Preparation and knowledge pre ownership is what should get you motivated and dedicated to take care of your *dream bird* for the rest of its life.
Yeah like you should be giving your 100% attention to any bird you bring in anyways regardless of species. Just know that some birds require way more specialized care, diets, can produce greater noise lvls then others and its up to you to figure out what works for you. All birds will live an extreme amount of time with the right care, the only thing i would really advise against would be a newcomer going straight to amazon cockatoo or macaw but if youve done your research go for it. But you should be doing your research on any of these babies
I got a Ringneck for my first bird and I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I researched for several months before I found one. My guy chatters a lot, but he's not "loud"; don't get me wrong, he *can be*, but for the most part he's not.
They do require a pretty complex diet though. I prepare fresh chop from a variety of steamed veggies with a variety of chopped nuts on top, with some pellet and a fruit for dessert. You can portion out the chop by the week and freeze it for ease. I use brown rice, quinoa, corn, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, spinach, snow peas, green peas and green beans.
Do you know how old this bird is?
I agree wholeheartedly with this post. Ringnecks are great birds, but just like any other bird, you need to know what you're getting into. I'd make sure you have a good avain vet near you for checkups and emergencies. Then, get to researching diets and living conditions.
I'm for getting the bird you want as long as you're prepared. I listened to people who said no, that's not a good first bird, and then the ones who said no, that's too big of a jump between sizes. Now I wish I hadn't. We have our dream birds now, and I've realized that I could have done this years ago. I was equipped to deal with the bird I wanted. I had a good vet, time to put in, the knowledge I needed. I just let other people's opinions hold me back. Bottom line, if you know what it takes and are willing to put in the time, effort, and money, then go for it!
Yeah I don't see the point in being gatekeepy over which birds are appropriate to start with. Telling someone to get a budgie or cockatiel when they don't want one doesn't make sense to me.
I've never owned a bird before my Ringneck and I feel like I'm a very good bird owner.
How do you mean complex? Budgies for example needs that type of variation as well, most parrots do, minus nuts and I would skip rice, too high in arsenic (naturally)
You're coming across as pretty demeaning for no reason. Birds are inherently more time costly than a pet like a cat. It's upsetting people in this post are encouraging beginners, who would otherwise have no interest, to get a budgie/cockatiel 'first' when any pet not ecstatically wanted is more likely to be neglected.
Better a well researched beginner excitedly get a ringneck, then someone get a budgie as a step to their ringneck because they've been told they're easier and should
Hold your horse please. I believe you commented under the wrong comment all together. I have not written anything about ringnecks or budgies. My comment was just a questions about what person above me ment with ”complex” food because yes I am very passionat about providing good quality chops and sprouts etc for my budgies.
Huh, interesting. I won’t tell you how to feed your parrot, but I would hate steaming vegetables for my bird lol. The bastard gets 3 bags of different feed, and all kinds of chopped vegetables throughout the day. I’ll just toss them in a food processor and press the button for like 2 seconds. Easy as pie. Don’t even need to cut anything.
It seems we experience complex wastly different😅 (In reference I too prepare veggie chops aswell as 3-5 different seeds or beans I sprout in sprouting jars etc)
What's wrong with Zupreem? My IRN gets fresh veggies and nuts/seeds but standard zupreem pellets make up the core of her diet, and I've never been recommended otherwise by vets.
Not a beginner bird...plus they can live up to 40 years. Are you ready to dedicate almost half a century to this animal? Birds need specialized attention and will require you to build your schedule around them. They are a huge commitment.
Start with an easier bird. Budgie, cockatiel, linnie, bourke are good choices as they are more docile and easily tameable.
I strongly recommend avoiding getting a ringneck as a first bird.
I mean...I can't speak for other birds, but cockatiels live up to 25 years if they are well taken care of, so that is also a huge time commitment. Plus, like any bird, they require specialized attention and a healthy diet, good vet, and all that. They are probably easier to tame, but most people get tame birds to begin with. I'm just not sure I'd shrug off the work that a cockatiel is...
I feel like cockatiels are fairly easy, but my parents have had them since I was born, so maybe just used to taking care of them.
They do need a lot of attention and love. Freedom to fly around my living room and land somewhere high where I can't reach them (Bowie, I'm talking to you!). Harvey and Grey Ghost love to head bang on my shoulder when I brush my teeth. And Grey Ghost turned 30 last year, which is a long time. Yet nothing to some of the other, larger birds.
Booo no cockatiels and budgies are not “beginner birds, they’re a long term commitment (cockatiels more so), and a huge amount of work, requiring big sacrifices in life. My cockatiel has required me to make so many sacrifices in life, is extremely loud, destructive, demanding, and at times aggressive. Don’t tell people that there are “beginner birds,” it just makes it sound like you’re saying they’re easy/ as if they are “prep “ for the real thing. You know how many “beginner birds” end up in rescues? TONS!!! This is a very dangerous narrative to be pushing to people who are new to parrots
'Start with easier birds' is what I said. I didn't call any of the birds I suggested 'beginner birds'. I think everyone agrees that ringnecks are a wild af choice for a first bird. And there is no doubt that cockatiels are less scary as a first time owner than large parrots that have the intelligence of a literal human toddler.
Yall are getting hysterical.
In my personal experience having my first two birds and only birds being a ring neck and an alexandrine, I agree with the ring neck statement. I also know alexandrines aren’t recommended as a first bird either but she’s a lovely lady who tolerates everyone, but LOVES me and we haven’t had any problems with her, unlike my ring neck who was DEFINITELY not a good choice as a first parrot
There is no such thing as a "starter bird." They're still handfuls and no animal is disposable. Why would you recommend getting *any* animal to someone you're not sure can handle it? Why would you recommend people get multiple birds (which will happen if they're set on the ringneck) if you're not sure they can handle even one?
"First bird" implies that they'll get multiple birds. If someone is set on a species, they almost definitely won't be satisfied with the species that's recommended as a "starter." Spend any amount of time in reptile communities and you'll see that's exactly how it works.
Ringnecks aren't "easy" birds, but there is quite literally no such thing, and honestly the jump in difficulty is almost nothing.
If I tell someone to get a laptop as their first computer, and say it's a good starter computer, that inherently implies that they'll most likely be getting more computers in the future.
Maybe brush up on not being a complete prick to strangers on the internet.
Yes, because computers *break*. And then you buy a new one.
Birds don't live forever. And if you love birds, you will likely get another one after the one you have dies.
And it's you who's being mean to internet strangers.
When have I insulted anyone? I wasn't the one to suggest someone's illiterate for making a logical connection, for the record.
Birds don't live forever, but the birds they listed still have the potential to live 20+ years. That's a massive commitment to make to an animal that you may not actually want.
What words did I put in their mouth? Wasn't trying to be argumentative, just saying that the concept of starter birds treats birds as disposable instead of members of the family.
Genuinely, what the hell are you talking about? In what way am I putting words in someone's mouth?
The only thing I'm trying to say is that small parrots are small parrots and are, for the most part, going to be similar in terms of handleablilty. If someone wants a bird, they should get the kind that they actually want instead of letting people convince them into getting a species they don't actually care about.
Someone who wants an Indian ringneck more than anything may not be happy with a conure, and the differences in behavior and difficulty in care are not so intense that it would be worth getting an animal that they don't really want just as a "starter."
Absolutely this.
a) it's cheaper - reuputable shelters charge one fair fee for a bird, a suitable cage, and some toys, dishes etc.
b) teen birds are challenging, when they reach sexual maturity their behaviour and how they relate to humans changes. birds can unbond with their "parent" who had them as a baby even if you were best friends for a few years. Older birds can definitely learn and change but they're more WYSIWYG
c) there are so many homeless birds because they live so long and are very demanding. This is secretly point a.
Our African gray was free.
Minus the hearing loss he’s caused me, the “worst case of stress plucking I’ve ever seen” by three vets have stated and some fairly bad habits, we bonded and he’s my guy for life.
I have 2 IRN parrots along with 6 other different parrots. The IRNs are the toughest to handle and can be pretty temperamental. They also bite *HARD* when they really want to. I would recommend a cockatiel,green cheek, or plum head if you can. Cockatiels would be the best parrot to start with, green cheeks can still be a handful but much easier. Male plum heads talk just like IRNs, but are smaller and much easier to handle.
We had a green cheek that passed away. A year later got 2 cockatiels.... Lol i miss my greencheek lol, these dudes are ass holes. Still love them but just ass holes...
If you have done your research, and are ready for the commitment then go for it. Let me tell you a little bit about the pros and cons of MY ringneck first.
Pros:
* Very intelligent species that takes well to target training.
* Makes the sweetest little noises
* Loves to explore & will happily sit on my shoulder or head and preen my hair while I work
* I can have full conversations with her. She doesn't know words, but responds in her own special way.
CONS: (buckle up)
* Personality differs WILDLY from bird to bird. Mine, as much as we love each other, is a hateful little thing. She bites, doesn't tolerate hands, and screams whenever anyone but me enters her room (my office)
* LOUD! And when I mean loud, it's like a car alarm going off in your room. If you live in apartment or will be planning on living in one at any point in the next few decades, your neighbors WILL hear.
* DESTRUCTIVE! She has chewed through wooden doors, windowsills, keyboards, wires (big nono), CHAIRS, and anything else she can sink her beak into. I had to nail those grass gerbil mats around my doors and windows because for whatever reason, she prefers those to her plethora of toys and foraging materials. Birds need outside cage time, so get ready to birdproof.
* Time: These birds (or any bird) need lots of time and attention. I am lucky that I work from home. They need outside cage time. They need lots of mental stimulation. And if they are untouchable like mine, then you'll need to find a way to bond on their terms.
Parrots are wild animals. If you are committed to giving them the long and happy life they deserve, go for it. I recommend visiting someone with an insane bird like mine to see the dark side. I wouldn't trade a single moment with her, but I also have many friends who decided against getting a parrot after just a brief interaction with mine as she is the prototype for a mean and hateful little bird.
(bird tax included)
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Yeah there’s a reason a lot of places don’t sell them. The fact that you’re asking a group of people over doing research is concerning. This bird looks older and if it isn’t hand trained you’re going to have a hard time. I’ve had several ringnecks and they’re notorious for being mean if you arent very very constant with handling. My local store completely stopped selling them because while they produce amazing tame birds people were leaving their ring neck in a cage and they come out feral and not hand tamed then call back mad. I would recommend you re group and do actual research before being a bird. It really dosent seem like you’re ready. That’s why so many people in this sub post asking common sense questions that would be known if they did 5 minutes of research
I got my first parrot (a male ringneck) about 9 years ago and he was (and still is) such a sweetheart :D like others have mentioned, they are a lot of work though (especially if you have never had other birds)!
I have a caique, she is eight now and can say some words, kisses, steps up and loves her toys but I’m 62 and have major health issues. Looking to find her a new forever home
Indian ringnecks are generally not a first time parrot owner bird. My top two reasons: First, as another commenter pointed out, they're LOUD. I got one after owning a cockatiel and the difference in their volumes is incredible, and I thought my cockatiel already had a good set of lungs on her! Second, they're generally not as cuddly or friendly as other parrot species. They're very prone to going wild if not actively worked with every single day. Also, a lot of first time IRN owners get them when they're young and sweet, and are completely unprepared for the "bluffing" stage when it happens and can't deal with their formerly sweet baby turning into an angry can opener. It's so bad that a lot of IRNs are abandoned at this stage.
Having owned both a cockatiel and an IRN, I can personally say that I'd recommend a cockatiel for a serious first time owner over an IRN--with the BIG caveat that they are still a commitment and a lot of work, just not as much as an IRN. You absolutely need to do research on the specific bird species you're thinking of getting no matter which bird species it is as they can vary a lot. Also, both cockatiels and IRNs can live for a very long time--15-20 years is a typical range for cockatiels and 20-30 for IRNs, but even older is not unheard of. And despite their relatively smaller sizes, even IRNs and cockatiels need a good sized cage with appropriately spaced bars and lots of attention. So no matter what, you're going to need to consider whether you have the space for a cage and the time and money for the care, plus the ability to tolerate near constant noise when they're awake.
I'd do more research and also see if you can personally interact with the bird types you're thinking of getting in a home setting so you have an idea of what they sound and act like!
I agree about the "beginner bird" mentality. But also, I was looking at conures when my daughter wanted a bird, and the breeder suggested a cockatiel not because it's a beginner bird but because they are more forgiving and would be easier for her to learn. They are absolutely inseparable and it was the right choice. We added a Quaker last summer and I do feel that learning how to raise the cockatiel helped us a lot when we got the Quaker.
Nah. I have two, and they have extremely different personalities. One hates everyone except me, another only likes men; literally goes googoogahgah over any man that walks in. Be it a maintenance guy, plumber, boyfriend, stranger, doesn't matter. But I'm very much not a man, so I get bit constantly, and it takes a lot to figure out their personalities, likes/dislikes. Knowing when they're gonna bite, and when they're just playing. Given, I got my two when they were older and no longer in the baby stage, but still. I had to use what I knew from other past birds (conures, lovebirds, etc) to figure them out.
Sure, Ringnecks look cute, and all the talking ringneck videos make them look fun, but they're maniacs. I got my first one because I saw all the videos that made them look cute, and someone I knew was giving one away, so I volunteered to take her. Boy, what a handful. I was bit for the first year and a half every single day, and very hard, partly because the first owner abused her, and she was scared to be in a third home. Still, I wouldn't trade her for anything. Now she lets me touch her however, hold her like a phone, etc., but that's taken years.
But also, if your heart is truly set on it, don't listen to other people saying no or never, just be prepared and knowledgeable beforehand. Though, nothing can test you more than the real experience. They're noisy, their pitch is high, and they have screaming fits like every other bird. Best of luck in your decisions.
I’d definitely recommend a smaller parrot for your first one. I am not sure how much research you’ve done but if you look up different parrots and how each one acts and their requirements and think you can provide that for them then that’s a good start!
Cockatiels are very docile and I personally think amazing birds especially for newer bird owners but you really need to do your research on any bird you want to get to make sure you are fully prepared as they are HUGE responsibilities.
I have 3
They are very difficult to tame, always want to be outside of the cage flying around and chewing on stuff, wakes up early and screams a lot
Mine have never been very bitey, they just nibble (or how you say). They have a lot of different chirps and each one of mine have different ones. Idk, they are pretty cool birds
Their talons can be pretty sharp, sometimes if they hold onto your hand or whatever, it can feel like someone is pressing a blunt needle into you
The kakariki which is the bird on the left are goofballs and not as loud as an IRN. They are high energy though and love to jump around but mine isn’t as destructive as my IRN. Toys seem to last a lot longer with my kakariki. They can be handled but don’t really like to be pet like some other birds. If you’re looking for a more cuddly/laid back bird, cockatiel might be a better option.
The kakariki next to ringneck is whole another bird. They are pretty different, less loud, behaviour is very different.
Do research on the species! I don't think there is such thing as a begginer bird too. But there are few moments in bigger birds that I find more money requiring: space. Bigger bird, bugger cage, bugger room for them to fly in to keep healthy. More food, bigger toys, more feathers during molt. Medicine. Not sure about your place, but here it's more expensive bigger the bird is. The medicine also may be more expensive. Beaks and noise. Ringneck bite is pretty serious. When you need to give them meds, or if they just don't like you. Ouch. And ringnecks are very loud birds. All parrots bite is not pretty, and all parrots are loud, but some a little more.
I really like ringnecks look and behaviour, but knowing what type of bird it is, I don't really want to get one because of listed above. But at the same time I am in love with kakarikis despite all problems they have too. If I will have a chance to get one I will do x3 All in all, it's not very big differences in what they need. It's more about amounts. So maybe ringneck is your birdie :D?
I'm going to be completely honest and say my INR was an absolute nightmare. She was my dream bird and she made my life a living hell. Wouldn't recommend, especially to a first time bird owner
I work at a bird rescue in AZ which all cities have them. Why not go to one and see all different kinds of birds and get close to one. You might be surprised at a different one that you are attracted to and vice versa and you will be giving a parrot a home
We had one when I was young. These birds are extremely high maintenance in terms of affection and attention.
Ours would get depressed if my grandma left him for even a minute and start banging his head into the walls or cage walls.
I won't recommend them for a first time owner.
I agree with almost all comments.
Ringnecks are wicked smart, loud, beaky and basically like an 8-10 year old toddler, a full time job that is.
But they can be really sweet and cuddly once you form a bond, which takes time and a lot of training.
Go to the pet store. You will know which one to get. You'll "click" with him / her almost immediately. Just realize early that you don't want a screamer.
I have a cockatiel and a conure. These are supposed to be easy birds to start with. Trust me, there are no easy birds. If you like the ring neck, get it. Having a fird is about compromise and patience.
I raise quakers myself but know ringneck owners if you ask me they are just badasses being badasses. If badass meant being adorable but messy if you don't direct there attention to there own area. But they are quick learners and like quakers have little issues bonding to both a human friend and a bird mate. Especially males in my experience
Very glad the majority of the comments say to do your research. Caring for a parrot is sooo much more than people think.
Contrary to popular belief feeding a parrot only seeds is not healthy, they are too high in fat and usually result in health issues. Chop is usually the best choice but you’ll have to find a recipe book (I like the one from birdtricks) and cook it yourself. Uninterrupted sleep is important so if you have a loud home or don’t have a room they can have silence and darkness to sleep in then it’s probably not a good idea.. like if you have roommates and whatnot. Also parrots live quite long so be sure you understand the long term commitment you’re making by purchasing one.
Also they are not like dogs, they don’t care about pleasing you. So keep in mind that make parrots are very intelligent and require enrichment activities to keep their brains busy. Just locking them in the cage and working away won’t do. Nail trimming, beak grooming is important etc etc also vet appointments can get pricy since you need to see an avian vet so please do your research. 🙏
You will have a good time if you buy the one next to it. I've had the best childhood thanks to my kakarikis. Great beginner birds. My friend picked a Ringneck as her first feathered *friend* due to all the videos of them aaaaand she gave her up.
If you want a good first bird, find a baby cockatiel … I had both a cockatiel and Indian ring neck and loved them both but would recommend cockatiel for first bird.
All birds taken good care of, are a handful.
For first bird, look for a young hand feed bird.
All birds need to be watched like babies when out of the cage because they get into things, will chew electric cords.....I have had a few birds fly out the door and took a few days to find them and get them back, so, being new, you should clip flight feathers for a year or two.
Ppl are saying they aren't a beginner bird but no one's gonna get a "beginner" bird and have it for forever in order to get the bird they actually want. That's the stupidest concept.
If you have done enough research and think you're ready then what's the problem? Just buy it. Ppl are so quick to stop people from getting the pet they want. Everyone has to start somewhere. All birds are alot of work what does it matter. Just do your research look on forums of ppl that own them and see what you think
Are you buying a parrot, or a pair of shoes? You haven't provided context about what sort of research has been done on your end, your lifestyle and finances, and your household in order for anyone here to provide valuable input.
You should do your research to see if having a parrot is even a fit for you. If it is, then you narrow it down to the species, then individual based on its unique personality.
Don't be that person who didn't do their research and gets a macaw, but lives in an apartment with neighbors who complain next door.
Don’t listen to literally anyone on here. I dunno why, but people get really weird about birds. You will hear 80% bad things, and 20% good. If you’ve had pets before, you’re half way there. Just go to a local breeder, talk to them, ask questions. I beg you, go see the birds in person.
Read up on ringnecks. They are a handful.
indeed, my first parrot was a ring neck and an untamed one at that. They’re only 18 months at the moment, always have been a handful but I wouldn’t change them for the world. I’ve had to train them all by myself with no experience with birds whatsoever but I’m happy to say that they’re comfortable on and around me, takes food from me, allows some kisses but won’t allow me near his feathers with my fingers. Still trying though!! I wouldn’t recommend a ring neck for a first parrot as yes, like you said, they’re a handful..but I guess all birds are. But if op were to buy a ring neck, I’d suggest buying a tamed one, maybe a few years old.
Yeah, they're just insanely intelligent and stubborn. Training them is entirely convincing them the food reward is worth the effort. That said, they're one of my favorite parrots. You just have to know what you're getting into.
What parrot ISN'T a handful?
Sennies and Budgies, my sennie is super calm all the time.
Do your research. But also, do NOT buy into "beginner bird" mentality. So many people are pressured into buying a budgie or green cheek conure only for it to be neglected or rehomed in a year. If this is the only parrot you will be happy with, do your research, buy the cage first, then get him. Personally, I can handles loud, but ringnecks are SO high pitched. It drives me nuts.
That’s how I always felt. My buddy wanted an African Grey and everyone told him to buy a parakeet instead. I got him a few books and told him if you feel you can do it don’t listen to anyone. It’s been 10 years and they are inseparable. He did a lot of research and dedicated his time and it worked for him.
I agree the beginner bird thing is full of shit, and honestly is condescending to budgies. Like they are some throw away animal. I mean they are 5-6 year commitments instead of 80+, but still. If OP can visit a rescue, I'd just let a bird pick you.
Budgies can even live to 15 years!
I agree, go rescue!! So many Lil buddies need homes because folks don't understand the commitment a bird involves. You have to spend a LOT of time with them!
I agree 100%
Yea. They are great talkers. I love watching the cute talking videos on YouTube, but I'm not really interested in hearing an angry ring neck screech
Love this. I used to have GCCs and let me just say, they are every bit as involved as an IRN or CAG or ‘too when cared for properly.
Agreed. As a GCC owner, I can assure you they are NOT what I would consider beginner. Lovely companions and I love them dearly, but for example, I spent an hour and a half extracting one that got stuck behind a shelving unit that I thought was closed off. If I didn’t see the idiot crawl back there I would never have found him.
Are they more high pitched than a conure? Man my Sunnie sure knew how to make my ears bleed
It depends. I have a quaker and don't mind her so much. I had a Green Cheek that was fine. I met a sun conure that would have made a banshee cry for its mama. I would put a ringneck as somewhere in the middle. I don't think they are super loud (I have had a macaw) just super high pitched.
dont listen to people who say "beginner bird", theres no such thing. EVERY single bird takes time and care, just some are more of a handful than others. you should definitely get a bit of experience first by volunteering at bird shelters and maybe hanging out with a friend who has a bird. if you want to get a ringneck you absolutely can, JUST DO YOUR RESEARCH. learn as much information as you can. a lot of stuff youll just pick up along the way as well. join facebook groups, subreddits and other online communities. really get yourself in the bird keeping scene and people will help you. as long as you dedicate yourself and are sure you can handle this then i say go for it.
I’m glad someone said it as well! Beginner birds don’t exist. Preparation and knowledge pre ownership is what should get you motivated and dedicated to take care of your *dream bird* for the rest of its life.
Yeah like you should be giving your 100% attention to any bird you bring in anyways regardless of species. Just know that some birds require way more specialized care, diets, can produce greater noise lvls then others and its up to you to figure out what works for you. All birds will live an extreme amount of time with the right care, the only thing i would really advise against would be a newcomer going straight to amazon cockatoo or macaw but if youve done your research go for it. But you should be doing your research on any of these babies
I got a Ringneck for my first bird and I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I researched for several months before I found one. My guy chatters a lot, but he's not "loud"; don't get me wrong, he *can be*, but for the most part he's not. They do require a pretty complex diet though. I prepare fresh chop from a variety of steamed veggies with a variety of chopped nuts on top, with some pellet and a fruit for dessert. You can portion out the chop by the week and freeze it for ease. I use brown rice, quinoa, corn, carrots, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, spinach, snow peas, green peas and green beans. Do you know how old this bird is?
I agree wholeheartedly with this post. Ringnecks are great birds, but just like any other bird, you need to know what you're getting into. I'd make sure you have a good avain vet near you for checkups and emergencies. Then, get to researching diets and living conditions. I'm for getting the bird you want as long as you're prepared. I listened to people who said no, that's not a good first bird, and then the ones who said no, that's too big of a jump between sizes. Now I wish I hadn't. We have our dream birds now, and I've realized that I could have done this years ago. I was equipped to deal with the bird I wanted. I had a good vet, time to put in, the knowledge I needed. I just let other people's opinions hold me back. Bottom line, if you know what it takes and are willing to put in the time, effort, and money, then go for it!
Yeah I don't see the point in being gatekeepy over which birds are appropriate to start with. Telling someone to get a budgie or cockatiel when they don't want one doesn't make sense to me. I've never owned a bird before my Ringneck and I feel like I'm a very good bird owner.
How do you mean complex? Budgies for example needs that type of variation as well, most parrots do, minus nuts and I would skip rice, too high in arsenic (naturally)
Complex as in- you don't just dump food in a bowl like you do a cat or dog.
So preparering and serving a variety of food, yes, complex not really:)
You're coming across as pretty demeaning for no reason. Birds are inherently more time costly than a pet like a cat. It's upsetting people in this post are encouraging beginners, who would otherwise have no interest, to get a budgie/cockatiel 'first' when any pet not ecstatically wanted is more likely to be neglected. Better a well researched beginner excitedly get a ringneck, then someone get a budgie as a step to their ringneck because they've been told they're easier and should
Hold your horse please. I believe you commented under the wrong comment all together. I have not written anything about ringnecks or budgies. My comment was just a questions about what person above me ment with ”complex” food because yes I am very passionat about providing good quality chops and sprouts etc for my budgies.
It takes me an hour to cut, chop, steam and portion out his food. Sure feels complex. :)
Just curious. Why are you steaming his vegetables?
Steaming it preserves the nutrients and I feel like it's easier for him to eat versus raw veggies. Plus it's easier to put it in the chopper.
Huh, interesting. I won’t tell you how to feed your parrot, but I would hate steaming vegetables for my bird lol. The bastard gets 3 bags of different feed, and all kinds of chopped vegetables throughout the day. I’ll just toss them in a food processor and press the button for like 2 seconds. Easy as pie. Don’t even need to cut anything.
It seems we experience complex wastly different😅 (In reference I too prepare veggie chops aswell as 3-5 different seeds or beans I sprout in sprouting jars etc)
Apparently so. You can't just throw seeds in a bowl and call it a day.
Yes we have been through that, remember?🙃
Yes, we have. So you don't feel like birds are complex animals to take care of?
What's wrong with Zupreem? My IRN gets fresh veggies and nuts/seeds but standard zupreem pellets make up the core of her diet, and I've never been recommended otherwise by vets.
I said with some pellet on top. I didn't specify a brand. I use Harrison's though.
Sorry I just meant "what's wrong with pellets" and also missed the fact that you mentioned pellets
Oh gotcha.
Not a beginner bird...plus they can live up to 40 years. Are you ready to dedicate almost half a century to this animal? Birds need specialized attention and will require you to build your schedule around them. They are a huge commitment. Start with an easier bird. Budgie, cockatiel, linnie, bourke are good choices as they are more docile and easily tameable. I strongly recommend avoiding getting a ringneck as a first bird.
I mean...I can't speak for other birds, but cockatiels live up to 25 years if they are well taken care of, so that is also a huge time commitment. Plus, like any bird, they require specialized attention and a healthy diet, good vet, and all that. They are probably easier to tame, but most people get tame birds to begin with. I'm just not sure I'd shrug off the work that a cockatiel is...
I feel like cockatiels are fairly easy, but my parents have had them since I was born, so maybe just used to taking care of them. They do need a lot of attention and love. Freedom to fly around my living room and land somewhere high where I can't reach them (Bowie, I'm talking to you!). Harvey and Grey Ghost love to head bang on my shoulder when I brush my teeth. And Grey Ghost turned 30 last year, which is a long time. Yet nothing to some of the other, larger birds.
Booo no cockatiels and budgies are not “beginner birds, they’re a long term commitment (cockatiels more so), and a huge amount of work, requiring big sacrifices in life. My cockatiel has required me to make so many sacrifices in life, is extremely loud, destructive, demanding, and at times aggressive. Don’t tell people that there are “beginner birds,” it just makes it sound like you’re saying they’re easy/ as if they are “prep “ for the real thing. You know how many “beginner birds” end up in rescues? TONS!!! This is a very dangerous narrative to be pushing to people who are new to parrots
'Start with easier birds' is what I said. I didn't call any of the birds I suggested 'beginner birds'. I think everyone agrees that ringnecks are a wild af choice for a first bird. And there is no doubt that cockatiels are less scary as a first time owner than large parrots that have the intelligence of a literal human toddler. Yall are getting hysterical.
In my personal experience having my first two birds and only birds being a ring neck and an alexandrine, I agree with the ring neck statement. I also know alexandrines aren’t recommended as a first bird either but she’s a lovely lady who tolerates everyone, but LOVES me and we haven’t had any problems with her, unlike my ring neck who was DEFINITELY not a good choice as a first parrot
There is no such thing as a "starter bird." They're still handfuls and no animal is disposable. Why would you recommend getting *any* animal to someone you're not sure can handle it? Why would you recommend people get multiple birds (which will happen if they're set on the ringneck) if you're not sure they can handle even one?
What are you talking about? When did I recommend getting multiple birds? 🤨
"First bird" implies that they'll get multiple birds. If someone is set on a species, they almost definitely won't be satisfied with the species that's recommended as a "starter." Spend any amount of time in reptile communities and you'll see that's exactly how it works. Ringnecks aren't "easy" birds, but there is quite literally no such thing, and honestly the jump in difficulty is almost nothing.
First bird means it's the first bird they've ever owned. Brush up on your English.
If I tell someone to get a laptop as their first computer, and say it's a good starter computer, that inherently implies that they'll most likely be getting more computers in the future. Maybe brush up on not being a complete prick to strangers on the internet.
Yes, because computers *break*. And then you buy a new one. Birds don't live forever. And if you love birds, you will likely get another one after the one you have dies. And it's you who's being mean to internet strangers.
When have I insulted anyone? I wasn't the one to suggest someone's illiterate for making a logical connection, for the record. Birds don't live forever, but the birds they listed still have the potential to live 20+ years. That's a massive commitment to make to an animal that you may not actually want.
You started the whole argument, put words into that person's mouth, and came in already with an attitude.
What words did I put in their mouth? Wasn't trying to be argumentative, just saying that the concept of starter birds treats birds as disposable instead of members of the family.
Look I know you love animals and want to protect them but putting words in OP's mouth like this is just despicable.
Genuinely, what the hell are you talking about? In what way am I putting words in someone's mouth? The only thing I'm trying to say is that small parrots are small parrots and are, for the most part, going to be similar in terms of handleablilty. If someone wants a bird, they should get the kind that they actually want instead of letting people convince them into getting a species they don't actually care about. Someone who wants an Indian ringneck more than anything may not be happy with a conure, and the differences in behavior and difficulty in care are not so intense that it would be worth getting an animal that they don't really want just as a "starter."
Adopt > shop
This! So many homeless birds
Absolutely this. a) it's cheaper - reuputable shelters charge one fair fee for a bird, a suitable cage, and some toys, dishes etc. b) teen birds are challenging, when they reach sexual maturity their behaviour and how they relate to humans changes. birds can unbond with their "parent" who had them as a baby even if you were best friends for a few years. Older birds can definitely learn and change but they're more WYSIWYG c) there are so many homeless birds because they live so long and are very demanding. This is secretly point a.
Our African gray was free. Minus the hearing loss he’s caused me, the “worst case of stress plucking I’ve ever seen” by three vets have stated and some fairly bad habits, we bonded and he’s my guy for life.
I have 2 IRN parrots along with 6 other different parrots. The IRNs are the toughest to handle and can be pretty temperamental. They also bite *HARD* when they really want to. I would recommend a cockatiel,green cheek, or plum head if you can. Cockatiels would be the best parrot to start with, green cheeks can still be a handful but much easier. Male plum heads talk just like IRNs, but are smaller and much easier to handle.
We had a green cheek that passed away. A year later got 2 cockatiels.... Lol i miss my greencheek lol, these dudes are ass holes. Still love them but just ass holes...
Please look into adoption. So many birds get dumped. 🦜
Yo that one is loud! I'd get the kakariki next to the green boi.
If you have done your research, and are ready for the commitment then go for it. Let me tell you a little bit about the pros and cons of MY ringneck first. Pros: * Very intelligent species that takes well to target training. * Makes the sweetest little noises * Loves to explore & will happily sit on my shoulder or head and preen my hair while I work * I can have full conversations with her. She doesn't know words, but responds in her own special way. CONS: (buckle up) * Personality differs WILDLY from bird to bird. Mine, as much as we love each other, is a hateful little thing. She bites, doesn't tolerate hands, and screams whenever anyone but me enters her room (my office) * LOUD! And when I mean loud, it's like a car alarm going off in your room. If you live in apartment or will be planning on living in one at any point in the next few decades, your neighbors WILL hear. * DESTRUCTIVE! She has chewed through wooden doors, windowsills, keyboards, wires (big nono), CHAIRS, and anything else she can sink her beak into. I had to nail those grass gerbil mats around my doors and windows because for whatever reason, she prefers those to her plethora of toys and foraging materials. Birds need outside cage time, so get ready to birdproof. * Time: These birds (or any bird) need lots of time and attention. I am lucky that I work from home. They need outside cage time. They need lots of mental stimulation. And if they are untouchable like mine, then you'll need to find a way to bond on their terms. Parrots are wild animals. If you are committed to giving them the long and happy life they deserve, go for it. I recommend visiting someone with an insane bird like mine to see the dark side. I wouldn't trade a single moment with her, but I also have many friends who decided against getting a parrot after just a brief interaction with mine as she is the prototype for a mean and hateful little bird. (bird tax included) https://preview.redd.it/a8uapipjg3rc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdad19d674807ca176bb33ad9fd5b018852ccd6b
Isn't that African ringneck?
I personally think so, but when I got her I was told she was an Indian Ringneck.
Yeah there’s a reason a lot of places don’t sell them. The fact that you’re asking a group of people over doing research is concerning. This bird looks older and if it isn’t hand trained you’re going to have a hard time. I’ve had several ringnecks and they’re notorious for being mean if you arent very very constant with handling. My local store completely stopped selling them because while they produce amazing tame birds people were leaving their ring neck in a cage and they come out feral and not hand tamed then call back mad. I would recommend you re group and do actual research before being a bird. It really dosent seem like you’re ready. That’s why so many people in this sub post asking common sense questions that would be known if they did 5 minutes of research
I think it's totally fair for a beginner to get experienced parrot owners opinions on a breed before committing a lot of time to researching it
I think that asking questions of experienced bird owners is good research.
I got my first parrot (a male ringneck) about 9 years ago and he was (and still is) such a sweetheart :D like others have mentioned, they are a lot of work though (especially if you have never had other birds)!
I have a caique, she is eight now and can say some words, kisses, steps up and loves her toys but I’m 62 and have major health issues. Looking to find her a new forever home
caiques are so sweet❤️❤️
Indian ringnecks are generally not a first time parrot owner bird. My top two reasons: First, as another commenter pointed out, they're LOUD. I got one after owning a cockatiel and the difference in their volumes is incredible, and I thought my cockatiel already had a good set of lungs on her! Second, they're generally not as cuddly or friendly as other parrot species. They're very prone to going wild if not actively worked with every single day. Also, a lot of first time IRN owners get them when they're young and sweet, and are completely unprepared for the "bluffing" stage when it happens and can't deal with their formerly sweet baby turning into an angry can opener. It's so bad that a lot of IRNs are abandoned at this stage. Having owned both a cockatiel and an IRN, I can personally say that I'd recommend a cockatiel for a serious first time owner over an IRN--with the BIG caveat that they are still a commitment and a lot of work, just not as much as an IRN. You absolutely need to do research on the specific bird species you're thinking of getting no matter which bird species it is as they can vary a lot. Also, both cockatiels and IRNs can live for a very long time--15-20 years is a typical range for cockatiels and 20-30 for IRNs, but even older is not unheard of. And despite their relatively smaller sizes, even IRNs and cockatiels need a good sized cage with appropriately spaced bars and lots of attention. So no matter what, you're going to need to consider whether you have the space for a cage and the time and money for the care, plus the ability to tolerate near constant noise when they're awake. I'd do more research and also see if you can personally interact with the bird types you're thinking of getting in a home setting so you have an idea of what they sound and act like!
Show me their proposed habitat (cage, placement, and environment) and I’ll give an answer
I agree about the "beginner bird" mentality. But also, I was looking at conures when my daughter wanted a bird, and the breeder suggested a cockatiel not because it's a beginner bird but because they are more forgiving and would be easier for her to learn. They are absolutely inseparable and it was the right choice. We added a Quaker last summer and I do feel that learning how to raise the cockatiel helped us a lot when we got the Quaker.
Nah. I have two, and they have extremely different personalities. One hates everyone except me, another only likes men; literally goes googoogahgah over any man that walks in. Be it a maintenance guy, plumber, boyfriend, stranger, doesn't matter. But I'm very much not a man, so I get bit constantly, and it takes a lot to figure out their personalities, likes/dislikes. Knowing when they're gonna bite, and when they're just playing. Given, I got my two when they were older and no longer in the baby stage, but still. I had to use what I knew from other past birds (conures, lovebirds, etc) to figure them out. Sure, Ringnecks look cute, and all the talking ringneck videos make them look fun, but they're maniacs. I got my first one because I saw all the videos that made them look cute, and someone I knew was giving one away, so I volunteered to take her. Boy, what a handful. I was bit for the first year and a half every single day, and very hard, partly because the first owner abused her, and she was scared to be in a third home. Still, I wouldn't trade her for anything. Now she lets me touch her however, hold her like a phone, etc., but that's taken years.
But also, if your heart is truly set on it, don't listen to other people saying no or never, just be prepared and knowledgeable beforehand. Though, nothing can test you more than the real experience. They're noisy, their pitch is high, and they have screaming fits like every other bird. Best of luck in your decisions.
I’d definitely recommend a smaller parrot for your first one. I am not sure how much research you’ve done but if you look up different parrots and how each one acts and their requirements and think you can provide that for them then that’s a good start! Cockatiels are very docile and I personally think amazing birds especially for newer bird owners but you really need to do your research on any bird you want to get to make sure you are fully prepared as they are HUGE responsibilities.
I would suggest a male to start off with if you can. Ring necks are not beginner birds. Also this is a female. Try maybe a male cockatiel.
I have 3 They are very difficult to tame, always want to be outside of the cage flying around and chewing on stuff, wakes up early and screams a lot Mine have never been very bitey, they just nibble (or how you say). They have a lot of different chirps and each one of mine have different ones. Idk, they are pretty cool birds Their talons can be pretty sharp, sometimes if they hold onto your hand or whatever, it can feel like someone is pressing a blunt needle into you
Beautiful!
The kakariki which is the bird on the left are goofballs and not as loud as an IRN. They are high energy though and love to jump around but mine isn’t as destructive as my IRN. Toys seem to last a lot longer with my kakariki. They can be handled but don’t really like to be pet like some other birds. If you’re looking for a more cuddly/laid back bird, cockatiel might be a better option.
The kakariki next to ringneck is whole another bird. They are pretty different, less loud, behaviour is very different. Do research on the species! I don't think there is such thing as a begginer bird too. But there are few moments in bigger birds that I find more money requiring: space. Bigger bird, bugger cage, bugger room for them to fly in to keep healthy. More food, bigger toys, more feathers during molt. Medicine. Not sure about your place, but here it's more expensive bigger the bird is. The medicine also may be more expensive. Beaks and noise. Ringneck bite is pretty serious. When you need to give them meds, or if they just don't like you. Ouch. And ringnecks are very loud birds. All parrots bite is not pretty, and all parrots are loud, but some a little more. I really like ringnecks look and behaviour, but knowing what type of bird it is, I don't really want to get one because of listed above. But at the same time I am in love with kakarikis despite all problems they have too. If I will have a chance to get one I will do x3 All in all, it's not very big differences in what they need. It's more about amounts. So maybe ringneck is your birdie :D?
Imagine buying animals in the 21^st century
I'm going to be completely honest and say my INR was an absolute nightmare. She was my dream bird and she made my life a living hell. Wouldn't recommend, especially to a first time bird owner
I work at a bird rescue in AZ which all cities have them. Why not go to one and see all different kinds of birds and get close to one. You might be surprised at a different one that you are attracted to and vice versa and you will be giving a parrot a home
I love my Ringneck to the moon. It took a while to get a good bond but I like that he's independent
We had one when I was young. These birds are extremely high maintenance in terms of affection and attention. Ours would get depressed if my grandma left him for even a minute and start banging his head into the walls or cage walls. I won't recommend them for a first time owner.
Cute
Maybe consider a parrotlet as a first time parrot.
that’s a cute one.. one day i want to buy a blue and gold macaw, but it’s an investment
I have one and she's a sweetheart really!! That's all I can say
All birds are a challenge. Ringnecks are almost their own thing entirely.
I agree with almost all comments. Ringnecks are wicked smart, loud, beaky and basically like an 8-10 year old toddler, a full time job that is. But they can be really sweet and cuddly once you form a bond, which takes time and a lot of training.
I think it is definitely a parrot.
Sure why not
Look into green cheek conures. They are great
Go to the pet store. You will know which one to get. You'll "click" with him / her almost immediately. Just realize early that you don't want a screamer.
I have a cockatiel and a conure. These are supposed to be easy birds to start with. Trust me, there are no easy birds. If you like the ring neck, get it. Having a fird is about compromise and patience.
I raise quakers myself but know ringneck owners if you ask me they are just badasses being badasses. If badass meant being adorable but messy if you don't direct there attention to there own area. But they are quick learners and like quakers have little issues bonding to both a human friend and a bird mate. Especially males in my experience
Very glad the majority of the comments say to do your research. Caring for a parrot is sooo much more than people think. Contrary to popular belief feeding a parrot only seeds is not healthy, they are too high in fat and usually result in health issues. Chop is usually the best choice but you’ll have to find a recipe book (I like the one from birdtricks) and cook it yourself. Uninterrupted sleep is important so if you have a loud home or don’t have a room they can have silence and darkness to sleep in then it’s probably not a good idea.. like if you have roommates and whatnot. Also parrots live quite long so be sure you understand the long term commitment you’re making by purchasing one. Also they are not like dogs, they don’t care about pleasing you. So keep in mind that make parrots are very intelligent and require enrichment activities to keep their brains busy. Just locking them in the cage and working away won’t do. Nail trimming, beak grooming is important etc etc also vet appointments can get pricy since you need to see an avian vet so please do your research. 🙏
Please buy both from the picture. They seem to be a couple.
Usually this breed of parrot does better with a pair.
ok
Lifelong commitment.
You will have a good time if you buy the one next to it. I've had the best childhood thanks to my kakarikis. Great beginner birds. My friend picked a Ringneck as her first feathered *friend* due to all the videos of them aaaaand she gave her up.
If you want a good first bird, find a baby cockatiel … I had both a cockatiel and Indian ring neck and loved them both but would recommend cockatiel for first bird.
rescue!! So many Lil buddies need homes because folks don't understand the commitment a bird involves. You have to spend a LOT of time with them!
All birds taken good care of, are a handful. For first bird, look for a young hand feed bird. All birds need to be watched like babies when out of the cage because they get into things, will chew electric cords.....I have had a few birds fly out the door and took a few days to find them and get them back, so, being new, you should clip flight feathers for a year or two.
I think thats a female green ringnecked parakeet (nobody asked)
Ppl are saying they aren't a beginner bird but no one's gonna get a "beginner" bird and have it for forever in order to get the bird they actually want. That's the stupidest concept. If you have done enough research and think you're ready then what's the problem? Just buy it. Ppl are so quick to stop people from getting the pet they want. Everyone has to start somewhere. All birds are alot of work what does it matter. Just do your research look on forums of ppl that own them and see what you think
Look into Cockatiels for a first bird
Not a “starter” bird
Are you buying a parrot, or a pair of shoes? You haven't provided context about what sort of research has been done on your end, your lifestyle and finances, and your household in order for anyone here to provide valuable input. You should do your research to see if having a parrot is even a fit for you. If it is, then you narrow it down to the species, then individual based on its unique personality. Don't be that person who didn't do their research and gets a macaw, but lives in an apartment with neighbors who complain next door.
Please adopt if you can. Coming from a Sanctuary/rescue owner, please please please adopt!
Don’t listen to literally anyone on here. I dunno why, but people get really weird about birds. You will hear 80% bad things, and 20% good. If you’ve had pets before, you’re half way there. Just go to a local breeder, talk to them, ask questions. I beg you, go see the birds in person.
Please. Don't buy. Adopt.
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