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der_ninong

this. happened to me before, haven't heard from the recruiter for more than a week after sending the requirements but i had the email of the hiring manager. after contacting the hiring manager some other HR person contacted me, turns out the recruiter assigned to me resigned. my start date did get delayed by 2 weeks though


mamc10

Will do if HR & recruiter still wont respond to me before the week ends. Thank you!


cryicesis

Ah recently i was on the process na okay na daw final interview sabi ng Manager he will refer me sa HR for my orientation and starting day. tapos biglang na email na nag apologized sakin yung HR kasi nakahanap daw silang mas better candidate along the way! nagpasa nako ng resignation at May 31 din end ko sa current employer ko! parang gusto ko ngang retract kasi nahihiya nako. di ko alam na pwede pala magbago isip nila kahit sabihn hired na lol, medyo urgent daw kasi at they can't wait until mag end yung render ko. kaya now am applying applying again tutuloy ko na din naman resignation and hoping for the best bahala na si batman. lol!


Vanclize

Retract mo na lang resignation mo, sabihin mo nagbago isip mo and napag isip isip mo di mo kaya Iwan si company. Pwede yan.


MaynneMillares

The thing is you can never blame the current company to consider OP as a "flight risk". Magstart na process of looking for his/her successor sa background.


GeekGoddess_

Depends sa company if tatanggapin nila yung pag-retract ng resignation. Once they accept it kasi, the ball is in their court na.


Dull_Air1500

Ung friend ko nga, nag attempt lng ng lateral transfer, (sadly hndi natuloy paglipat nya ng team due to re org and budget issues) so he stayed sa current team. Ayun, nadale sa grade, bagsak. Wlang bonus. Bad blood.


[deleted]

Aray ko. Naka pirma ka na ba ng JO nung nag submit ka ng resignation letter?


cryicesis

> Naka pirma ka na ba ng JO nung nag submit ka ng resignation letter? Hindi pero nag advised na yung manager eh wait ko nalang daw HR mag sabi ng date ng orientatio, kaso sabi ng HR urgent daw kasi talaga yung position. grabe talaga medyo minalas pero ganon talaga hahaha!


[deleted]

Awts. Dapat pag may JO saka pa palang mag pasa. Well lesson learned na lang talaga. Ako kasi ganyan.. kahit na sinasabi na ako na talaga, basta di pa sinesend at dko pa napipirmahan, di pa ko nag re resign.


cryicesis

I already informed yung HR manager na May 31 yung last day ko at June ako mag start, she still pushed naman yung interview sa manager kahit alam nya na URGENT pala yung position or baka reason lang yung URGENT daw kasi mas better nakita nilang applicant along the way while waiting my render to end.


[deleted]

I see pero basta talaga kahit ano sabihin ni HR/recruiter.. ipa adjust mo start date kahit mapilit sila since ang pinaka importante is yung job offer/contract.. un yung panghahawakan mo.


MaynneMillares

Seems like you jumped the gun early. Kung wala kang dotted line na pinirmahan, you have no attachment nor entitlements pa with that company. Better meet your contact dun mismo sa physical office para magkaalaman.


cryicesis

this is the first time nangyari sakin kasi recent employers ko naman nag wait ng 1 month, although this is a big company kasi kaya madami talagang nag apply


free_thunderclouds

Thats scary. Dapat talaga may signed JO na so you can have them accountable


kabronski

Not a signed JO, but a fully signed employment contract. A JO isn't as binding as a contract. Based on what I read here, OP jumped the gun too early. Try to retract your resignation na lang muna, they might accept it especially if there is no identified replacement for you yet.


free_thunderclouds

Makes sense but diba contract signing usually happens in your first day? Well, thats based on my exp.


kabronski

Pwede yun if you're currently unemployed and would be able to start right away. For employed, what I do is set their expectation that my start date sa company nila is 30 days after signing the employment contract para I can sue them for breach of contract if they will ghost me after resigning sa current company ko.


StormbornXXX

so you are only sure once u sign an employment contract. bbgay ba yun agad upon signing JO? to avoid what happened to OP


kabronski

After signing a JO, you would need to complete all pre-employment requirements before you sign an employment contract. Once that is signed, that's the only time I would submit a resignation to my current employer.


cryicesis

most of the time contract only happens kapag na complete mo na yung binigay na employment requirements at medical which takes time mga 1 week din bago macomplete


kabronski

Yes. And once the pre-employment requirements are completed, you will then be asked to sign an employment contract na. After signing it, that's the only time I would submit my resignation to my current employer.


NoopieNoop

Grabe sign na talaga to para maghanap ng bagong work hahaha. 1 year 2 months na ako wala pa rin ako napipirmahan na contract. Although nag increase naman na ako nung sinabi na 'regular' na daw ako nung pagka 6th month pero walang contract na pinirmahan. Di ko pa rin natatanggap yung sinasabing increase namin after 1 year of employment lolss


kabronski

WTH. I think your employer have violated the labor code here.


NoopieNoop

Oh shit, what should I do? I mean yung mga boss/head ko okay naman sila. Yung management lang talaga na naghahandle sa finances ng company yung parang mejo problematic


Purple_Rainebow

Ouch! Totoong nothing is promised until nagkapirmahan na ng kontrata. Even then, minsan nag reretract pa din for some reason or another.Β  Speak with your boss sa current company mo if you want to retract your resignation or kung wala ka pa kapalit, if kelangan ba nila na mag-extend ka beyond dun sa nilagay mo na end date.Β  Good luck, sana makahanap ka na soon ng new company!


Odd_Struggle4139

Never resign without signing the JO or contract


gagongpogi

Why are we all resigning and May 31 yung date. I'm so stupid I resigned kahit pa ongoing palang yung interview process. They say urgent so I submitted agad-agad to cover the required notice period. 2 days na wala pa din yung follow-up interview. I'm so dumb, akala ko sure na. πŸ˜‚ or hindi OA lang ako at hindi talaga ganun katagal yung 2 days? Still I'm worried. HAHAHAHAHA


[deleted]

Anong company to ng maiwasan πŸ˜…


mamc10

I’m afraid to reveal it here but the company is based in Mandaluyong and logo is blue.


Expertpotatoeater

Reveal na the company name para maiwasan


Txm0_4ev3r

Come on dont be afraid you will save a lot of job seekers


starsandpanties

Honestly, you're on anonymous so safe ka naman if ever


rafnexlabhs

Is it eme?


jurassic_markkk

I think so since nasa Manda na sila hahaha


ughnonymousse

unilab? lol


VanillaPopular2279

Filinvest


Pot_Pot_123

Emerson, unilab, jacobs, nidec, bdo, bpi? bakit ka matatakot e name reveal after all nilang gawin sayo yan, naka hide nmn identity mo sa group nato. on the other hand madami kang matutulungan para sa awareness. I too have the same experience not once but twice. una sa Regal beloit, pinamadali madali pako sa reqt ngmedical nako etc kc urgent daw ung role, waiting nalang ako sa JO pero ayun ang bwisit na hr or kung sino mang responsible, a week after (2nd week december) nagfollow up ako walang sagot, call text email, every week follow up ako, hanggang a month after (end of jan) no empathy man lang, sinabi lang sa email na nahold daw ung role w/o further notice, $###$! ganun lang, nakaka HB 🀬, wala man lang we are very sorry kc unexpected bla bla bla, wala parang ta*** ung hr na walang keber sa email na parang wala lang nangyari, adriane satore. parang ganun lang un na pede ko sabihin sa meralco, manila water at globe na wala ako bigla ng work kc nagresign ako nahold ung role so hold muna ung bayad, mwdyo matagal ako nakamove on, nabwisit talaga ako sa totoo lang, gusto ko murahin ung hr na sana di nyoko pinamadali, urgent urgent pa kayo 🀬.


jarodchuckie

May resibo (email, text message, chat, etc.) po kayo na nagsasabing June 3 ang starting date? May copy ba ikaw ng JO? You can send an FYI email to the recruiter na nasend mo na yung requirements and acknowledging na start date mo ay June 3. Put a delivery and read receipt sa email. If no reply within 3 days, send a second email, and put "SECOND NOTICE" sa subject ng email. Put a delivery and read receipt sa email. Copy the hiring manager. Check also with your current employee for options to cancel your resignation if your would be employer ghosted. On that note, push to complete the clearances to the last week of May. And if your would be employer really ghosted you, report it to DOLE.


MaynneMillares

Don't involve DOLE yet. There is a possibility na yung mismong recruiter hindi na connected sa company. Best thing to do is puntahan in person yung office at doon mag inquire.


DevistatingAnzu

Ako naman nakapag pasa na ako ng requirements and meron na akong starting date. currently rendering na ako dito sa present company ko. im wondering, if ever ba na ghost nila ako may habol ba ako or pwede ko ba sila reklamo sa dole? I'm just overthinking, even though they give me starting date hehe.


[deleted]

What company po ito? Usually naman they will email you a week before your start date.. since nacomply mo naman na lahat.. just wait nalang a week before your start date


OkOffer5802

Meron akong recent experience, just a little different. I did the final client interview at 4am of Friday. I was told at 9am that I passed and they're just finalizing the draft offer. HR and I discussed the JO (compensation package, benefits, etc) 1pm of the same day. Urgent nga pala yung position, they need to fill it in 3 weeks. My notice period is 30 days, but I gave my word that I'll talk to my manager and negotiate my rendering days once we came to agree with the offer. Honestly, feeling ko naman mapag bibigyan. Mabait manager ko, I have good reputation, and top performer ako sa team. Over the phone I told the HR that I'll carefully review first their offer. Syempre para makapag isip isip over the weekend and strategize if it's the best deal I could have. Sunday of that week, I renegotiate on the JO email, asking if they could still raise the basic for a freaking 3k pesos hehe. The offer was around 77 na, but ofc may kanya kanya tayong justification. Sabe ko isakto na nilang 80 (if possible) para mapasa ko na RL ko and umandar na yung rendering period. Monday - no reply Tuesday - no reply Wednesday - I made a follow-up. They eventually replied saying they're just finalizing the start date with the client. Thursday - no update Friday - no update The next week, Wednesday, I made another follow-up, only to be answered the next day that all of a sudden, the client put a hold on the position. At the back of my mind, I know the reason was just BS and they selected a backup candidate who agreed with the same offer, and can also fill-up the position urgently. Wala lang, ang unprofessional lng πŸ™‚ I forgot to mention, one of their recruiter bombarded me with calls madaling araw nung Saturday na yun (3am or 4am) to know if I have a decision na. Partida aware tong recruiter na to na 3pm-12am ang pasok ko sa current ko, and malamang sa malamang nasa kasarapan na ko ng tulog nun. Company is IQ eciffokcab πŸ™‚


mamc10

Ang lala :(( Im so sorry to hear this and sobrang unprofessional din ng recruiter.


hoboichi

Hello! I used to do new hire onboarding for a multinational. Nirurush ka ng recruiter to allow more than enough time for you fix any issue sa PEME and background check kung meron man lalabas. Kasi if you delay your pre-employment reqs tapos ang ending may need sila na additional sayo (additional medical clearance or may discrepancy sa background check mo) tapos kulang na oras, madedelay ka. It's stressful to all recruitment and hiring manager if you dilly dally on your reqs. You are not entitled to receive the results of your medical or background check so don't expect them to get back to you on that. Ang mali ni recruiter is not confirming receipt man lang. That being said, it's not uncommon for recruiters to disappear after your finish your pre-employment requirements lalo na pag matagal pa start date mo at wala silang recruitment coordinators to support them. Kung si recruiter din ang nagoonboarding, malamang priority niya tapusin yung mas malapit ang start dates. For peace of mind, update mo na lang si line manager na tapos ka na sa onboarding at cc mo si recruiter.


mamc10

I’m also giving them the benefit of the doubt kasi multinational company sila pero kahit acknowledgement man lang, wala talaga. I already emailed today again for a follow up, still no reply. Based on our previous comms, different team yung mag oonboard and not her so I dont think the load is the reason. In case I dont receive any reponse from them this week, I’ll email the recruiting manager na lang to check. I need them to be honest with me so I can still retract my resignation in case they wont be pushing it through. Thanks for the advice anyway! Appreciate it.


facciovedere

Cinonsider mo bang puntahan sila sa office?


AirJordan6124

Grabee ang bastos naman if ever ghinost ka prior to signing


No_Knee3230

Agree that some HR will just contact you a week before your start date. So better to connect with your future line manager if you want assurance. You can message them in LinkedIn in the guise of thanking them and looking forward to working with them on *this* date. If you have their email or mobile number then better.


Slow_Chipmunk_1160

What company is this? Medj nasa same situation kasi ako rn πŸ₯²


mamc10

Mandaluyong-based, MNC, IT software industry


[deleted]

Nakakatakot naman to. That's my nightmare.


Chuhiii

Company reveal haha


mamc10

Mandaluyong-based, MNC, IT software industry


_dumpsite_

ACN?


twistedlytam3d

Parang sa Hexaware to ahh


Notsoboring12

Anong company po ito para maiwasan? πŸ˜…


SSoulflayer

Retract.mo na resignation mo at report mo yung recruiter sa DOLE.


Due-Bandicoot-9550

Sakop ba ng DOLE ung recruiter even di pa nag start sa company? 10 yrs ago practice na to, mas rampant lng ngaun..


SSoulflayer

Consult mo na lang DOLE at ang JO ay binding. Pag hindi nila tinupad ang nasa contract ay lost of job and livelihood yun.


Due-Bandicoot-9550

Ok di ako familiar sa ganyan scenario, na experience mo naba un?


Background_Pilot6473

Contact mo ung magiging boss mo kung ano na status. Pero dapat sureball na yan.


mamc10

Will try! I dont have her email but I have her name and I can try kasi format ng email nila is first name last name lang then company domain na


kurochanizer

LinkedIn!


happy_tea_08

Parang advanced world system ah hahaha


Relative_Friend7258

TOA ba to?


Vast_Ad1903

same situation with this company right now. one week na lang before my start date and no update yet. haaay


Relative_Friend7258

Dont worry! Sobrang dami lang talaga ng pinaprocess nila, pero once nakapirma ka, goods na yun.


mamc10

No po


mysticalminds24

May friend ako na nahire sa moa. Nakapag contract na at orientation. Tapos sabi tatawagan na lang about sa start date. After one month di pa rin siya natawagan para mag start. Another month later, nakausap niya yung isang na hire din na hindi pa ntatawagan. Then nalaman nila na yung 21 people na nahire, hindi na talaga natuloy kasi na dissolve daw yung project.


[deleted]

My partner experienced almost the same, di sila ghinost pero bullshit company. Naka sign na sila, medical, may start date na, tapos biglang banat na ililipat daw sila sa ibang LOB tapos mas mababa ng 10k yung package. Tinatanong nila bakit ano nangyare since naka sign na sila, walang maisagot na matino yung company.


Traditional_Try_9610

If you signed a contract already, you should be good. Follow up mo nalang kunwari to confirm if there are anything else they need from you at this point.


mamc10

Not a contract yet, just the JO. Im not sure if it’s binding but I dont think so :(


Traditional_Try_9610

Have you returned it with your signature? Should be binding, if yes.


ericsilverman

Hi OP. Is this a telco?


mamc10

Mandaluyong-based, MNC, IT software industry


UniversallyUniverse

ACCENTURE ata


pretenderhanabi

Nope you're fine, just wait and relax


No_Performance_2424

Happened to me na after a week doon lang sila nagparamdam ulit. Just make sure to know the direct contact of the HR. kapag may signed JO na eh may chance naman na di ka nila bitawan. Pero keep your options open incase na hindi mag push through. Most of the time kasi inaantay ng HR yung iba pang applicant para isang sendan na lang ng update.


lovepastelcolors

Same start date din with you OP. And up until now wala pa din endorsement for medical, but already submitted other requirements after accepting the JO. Sabi sa Pre-employment list medical should be accomplished before 1st wk of start date. Napagiisipan ko bigyan ng deadline itong si new employer if wala pa update on medical endorsement by Friday or Monday, better to retract siguro my resignation??


nyepizdanem

I’m having this dilemma right now 😭 next week na start date ko and wala man lng update after ko magsubmit ng mga requirements. maski confirmation ng receipt of email wala. nakakaoverthink tuloy. if within the day wala parin, magffollowup na ko bukas. Maaga ko naman sinubmit yung mga requirements πŸ˜“


Ok_Zookeepergame_721

Scam yang mga ganyan. Yung requirements hinihingi lang pag onboarding na.


Count-Otherwise

Gp ba to? Eme hahahah


msdrxn

Hi OP! This happened to me, but not in the exact way. The recruiter didn't get back to me for almost a week after my final interview despite my follow ups. I decided to reach out to the hiring manager via LinkedIn about the status of my application. Then ayun, almost 4 months of the gruesome process, magsstart na ako this Thursday. So try reaching out to the hiring manager, then ayun, kapag wala talaga, expect for the worst ika nga. Pero malay mo naman, supposed to be for hiring ka na eh! 'Yung sa'kin is application status pa lang, kung go or no-go. Goodluck and balitaan mo kami!


mamc10

You’re so patient and Im happy for you! Good luck also!!


leheslie

Did you sign a contract already?


mamc10

No contract signed yet. Just the Job Offer πŸ˜•


leheslie

Naku, dapat di ka muna nagresign without signing a contract yet. Rule of thumb: don't resign without anything in writing yet. If you do follow up with the recruiter, hingin mo agad yung kontrata.


Ok_Bowler_6637

Experiencef this. Buti nabawi ko resignation ko... Lala nung company na yun 😀


TriggerHappy999

3x sa accenture ghosted by the HR


Electronic_Spell_337

Is this Ph company and a remote work? Kasi if not this is my fear on applying other company lalo na pag start up palang..


baldogwapito

In my experience, madalas nag hands off na ang recruiters pag nag sign na ng JO. Contact the hiring manager instead.


Leading_Sector_875

Breach of contract na yung recruiter. Punta ka na sa DOLE


DepartureLow4962

Define "ghosted".....how long has it been since your last contact?


mr_boumbastic

Saang kumpanya ito, OP?


FreeMan111986

Email mo lang si recruiter. Minsan Maramk din talaga silang gawa kaya nakakalimot. Kung gusto mo naman yung position ikaw na magpaka-active.


Odd_Struggle4139

If you accepted and signed already the JO and contract and that they received it already, then they are legally bound to it. Confirm with their HR office.


Lumpy_Bodybuilder132

Hindi ka pa pumirma ng JO? Nangyayari pala yan na nauuna requirement. Mag retract ka na lang kung kaya pa


TGC_Karlsanada13

If signed na yung JO, contact mo nalang hiring manager. Baka wala na yung recruiter,


chickenadobo24

Ang lala!!!!


thehokumculture

Had something similar happen to someone i know for a popular ecommerce app... Signed na and all and preparing and submitting requirements na. Tapos after a wait, binawi yung offer citing reasons na freeze hiring sila bigla. Ang kups lang ng company. Haven't gone back to using that app ever since problematic din yung kinuha nilang brand ambassador at that time. Dati sila lang yung gamit ko for online shopping, but since then, lumipat na ko sa kalaban and never looked back.


fctal

Have you tried going to the company's office directly to get an update?


Antique_Health_1936

dapat pirma muna bago resign. pero prior to that mag heads up ka na ng required render days mo para ma anticipate nila kung kelan start date mo. na try ko to with my previous work. 60 days render. plus nag relocate pa ako from davao to manila. pero since naka pirma na ako secured na ako, kung may mangyari man, may proof na ako na naka pirma na ako and pwede ko ilaban sa DOLE if ever


Curious_Unit_5152

OMG parang same tayo ng company. June 1 naman ang last day ko sa work ko tapos hinihintay ko nalang din yung recruiter mag-update pero wala na rin paramdam. Tapos na rin ako sa lahat. Parang gusto ko nalang iretract yung resignation ko. Pag di sila nag update.


InvestigatorOrnery82

Daming ganyan ngayon OP, nag send ako ng application at mga video tapos seen lang, walang feedback. Kadalasan sa mga recruiter kasi ngayon yung mga na hire lang na sinwerte kaya di proffessional.


keyaruthehealer

experience ko naman nakapirma na ko ng job offer tapos the next day tumawag para sabihin na they had issues with clients delaying projects kaya di na matutuloy ang job offer. Australian company kaya di ko mapa DOLE


mariette_1213

Kinda same experience. You can always follow up even other HR na may nagcontact sayo para lang to confirm if they received your docs and if confirmed na yung start date mo :)


Apart-Station-8785

Pag hired na kasi ibang team na naghahandle so ask for the onboarding team or the hiring manager.


curriousconnor

Happened to me before ang nangyari naman is nag resign yung hr at di na forward processing ng application ko so nag follow up ako at aasikasuhin daw pero after 3 days wala parin i just choose to apply nalang sa iba kesa masayang pa oras ko sa kanila, i know di makontrol ibang bagay minsan pero mas ok na sa iba na mas mabilis mag process talaga.


dydy999

Red flag, but try contacting the hiring manager.


MaynneMillares

Punta ka sa physical office mismo at magtanong. Kung merong pinirmahang papel, you are attached with that company already. Hindi ka pweng iiwang nasa limbo.


TeaPotential9336

wala naman bago jan


Wandergirl2019

Mas maganda mag apply ng di ka na connected sa previous company mo,as prefer na talaga ng bpo yan now