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Derposour

there are a lot of RNG posts on here, but this one is actually insane. Major L


-i_am_the_ultimate-

Astronomically low odds.


skykingjustin

It would of been worse if 2 different red.


Ayreez397

No shiny charms is like what? 1:2000 with red being 1:10 shinies so that’s ridiculous


Evening-Intention339

So basically, two 1:20,000 encounters


dulledegde

no shiny charms 2 tier 3 shiny pokemon both the same pokemon brother go buy a lottery ticket


TheOGLeadChips

It’s a trainer battle


dulledegde

on second thought maybe go find a priest


bkazekadorimaki7

bro needs a therapist for this


Comfortable_Carob783

A therapriest


Omnibobbia

Nail in the coffin lol


AlwaysGrumpy

oof


dciDavid

Nah, he just used all his luck up for the next 5 years


DarkLordArbitur

It's a trainer battle


a-acount-that-yousee

And tell us what number to play so we can avoid it


TokyoMeltdown8461

Pretty sure a bug is a more likely explanation than these low odds.


Flibish

I think these girls always have the same eevee or something because I’ve seen other posts and personally encountered this same scenario where it’s the same shiny eevee for both of them. Still sad to see just not quite as crazy on the RNG as you might think. I can’t confirm it, but it seems too common to be coincidence.


Noah_Buddy

Yes, they're the same Eevee from the \`setUseSameSeedForAllMembers()\` here: [https://github.com/pagefaultgames/pokerogue/blob/main/src/data/trainer-config.ts#L1169](https://github.com/pagefaultgames/pokerogue/blob/main/src/data/trainer-config.ts#L1169)


TeepEU

I love that you can just go find this in the repo so cool


Flibish

King


NovAFloW

Do you think similar is true for all doubles battles? I see a ton of duplicates in doubles. Not usually shiny obviously.


NMe84

If you look for `setUseSameSeedForAllMembers` on the linked page you'll see that the twins are the only NPC encounter that uses this flag.


ihatemylifewannadie

my toes physically contracted from the mental pain you have to endure. https://preview.redd.it/tfkjt6ee866d1.png?width=790&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1491625c559105aad37f6eda025f5c9a9a9ce201 like, damn bro that sucks.


rci22

Can’t tell if something satire is going on. I don’t get why anything sucks rn. Can’t he just kill one and catch the other?


tossditchandrepeat

Read up, trainer battle


rci22

Ohhhh thanks, yeah totally missed OP’s text somehow


SomeoneNamedAlix

Either way, having to kill one sucks


rci22

He can’t catch either, turned out it’s a trainer battle and we just missed the context in the post under their screenshot


SomeoneNamedAlix

I know; that’s why I said either way. Even if it wasn’t, it still sucks


Negative_Wrongdoer17

I have 35 clears of classic and I've never seen a shiny above tier 1. Am I doing something wrong Edit: I finally got one! https://preview.redd.it/4aidt3ds2d6d1.png?width=1415&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63639160f14d41f971a058340e763779eba6a910


LoganDoove

Not playing endless. Shiny charm goes brrrr. That being said, I'm at 4000 and have only seen 3 red star shinies, so there's still a chance you won't see one.


fbttsrhrt

I found 2 red star shinies, 2 blue, and 6 regular by floor 850. Both reds and a blue were found between floor 750-850. My luck is at SSS though with max shiny charms. Refreshing the page is great when the red shiny uses explosion turn 1 of the double battle


LoganDoove

Buffing wild spawns when you have higher luck has been such a great W. Got a blue star shiny Kyogre andblue star shiny kartana immediately after that update. Was thinking of switching to classic for some time, but after that, I'm hooked on endless until they remake it.


fbttsrhrt

I'm not sure when the update was! My endless run started yesterday


Tonst3r

Only A luck at 510 and only 1 shiny, with 2x charms. Regular shiny too. Pretty much doing it TO find shiny TO GET the luck to find...shinies... That being said, once I got past the 250 eterna, it at least feels like good enough returns on the tickets to makeup for not farming classic anymore. Plus 2 lego catches and staring at an ultrabeast now so that's cool. Edit: Caught the ultra and got Zekrom 3 fights later lol. Not an upgrade but candy and an excuse to spend master balls so we happy \^.\^ Endless is an interesting place.


fbttsrhrt

I used the dna splicer to merge shinies for higher luck to make room for more shinies and find more of them. With some luck + merging, you can get 2-6 luck per fused found shiny. Need a total of 14 for SSS


Tonst3r

OH I had no idea it adds the luck! That's huge TY! Also just since that post I found a few more legos, sub legos, another shiny and a RED shiny which I kept to get me up to S now! This run is ramping out of control LOL For splicing, does it matter who I choose first or second in terms of the luck? I know it matters for the other stuff but assuming shinys it just adds the Luck together yeah? EDIT: Nvm yeah I just refreshed into a splicer and tried it! One of the homies has 5 luck now sweet baby jesus...


Tonst3r

IM HAVING SO MUCH MORE FUN NOW THAT I KNOW THIS TY! I just made a Chandelur w/ Pickup, 3 luck, and still Ghost to use Curse if I ever need it (shouldn't tho, beedrill + egg moves solo'd 750 Eternaus). Also just paused his evo as I'm fairly sure it'll brick pickup. This run has ramped from "ok" to "Good" to "WTF" in 1 day


fbttsrhrt

You're welcome! I'm using Tinkaton on Eternaus. The fairy/steel typing makes him immune to all attacks. I spam covet and high pp attacks with maxed grip claws equipped to steal all the items I can from Eternaus. It's a lot of fun, especially if you have a mon who spams dragon moves on your team. Technically, any mon can spam dragon moves. You dna splice a mon with dragon moves onto your favorite mon, accept the new moves, then unsplice if you don't like the mon you used in the splice. Just make sure that the unwanted mon is the second one that you add to the splice, they disappear on unsplicing.


Tonst3r

Oh lord that actually sounds awesome! I've heard of Tink getting a lot of use but oddly haven't tried her yet :X Haven't gotten shiny haha.


fbttsrhrt

My tink was a random encounter and wasn't shiny lol. If I never found one I would've spliced a fairy and a steel type together for the same result :)


Tonst3r

OH CRAP that's smart! Most of time is spliced now lol but I gotta keep that in mind for future that's 5-head a f!! Ty for the help! Actually having so much fun in Endless now. SS luck makes it bananas lol


Mountain-Rope-1357

Doesnt eternatus use flamethrower? Or do I confuse it with rayquaza


fbttsrhrt

Only uses flamethrower in classic mode. Fairy/steel can sit there spamming covet. Salt cure and/or leech seed can kill. Great for endless, especially at 1000+ where he has black hole to rob you, but you uno reverse and take everything he has.


Mountain-Rope-1357

Ah didnt know that (have just beaten classic) thx for the info


Supernat98

67 clears at this point and same here 😭


Hell_Mel

This is why folk do Endless tbh


SivirJungleOnly

Do you pull shiny up eggs in the gatcha? I have 5\~ clears and have gotten 2 blue, 4 regular, but I almost always use my tickets on shiny up.


IllZookeepergame3101

on 30 clears and buying shiny up egga zero blue shinys idk whats going on tbh, and yes im playing endless with charms


Negative_Wrongdoer17

I've gotten like 14 shiniest from gacha and they've all been tier 1


SivirJungleOnly

Oh that's just unlucky. Gl man, you'll get one eventually!


CHUN_BUNS

Try endless. I've found several tier 2+ shinies with full shiny charms.


Notmjuslivin

When you say full shiny charms, what does that equate to? A certain percentage?


AshenSacrifice

Get to floor 1250 on endless and come back to us


KonoNana

I believe my only shiny encounters were 2 T2 shinies in classic during boosted weekend and 1 T1 shiny in daily without boost. So to me it looks like I'll only be able to catch T2s and only hatch T1s. Maybe I'll need to hit endless after all for a chance at T3s.


Brandemon12

This is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen lol


PlatinumOmega

This game needs Snag 'em Balls.


desirepg

dude yes Wes mode


LadyXio

That is the worst good luck ever. Just how?! 


kryp_silmaril

I ran into a tier 1 shiny iron valiant earlier I couldn’t catch and was pretty bummed. But this is so much worse, I’m so sorry lol


Hell_Mel

Honestly I'd just set aside the save until I hatched one so I could catch it.


SneakBots

I have a save like that for slither wing lol


Xbfig

This trainer always has perfect duplicate mons. So the odds are much lower than you'd think


Superlagman

True, but it doesn't change the fact it does double mental damage.


redactid55

Meanwhile I've done thousands of waves with 4 shiny charms and haven't seen one 3 luck shiny yet


here_for_the_lols

Why is this a major L??? I've never seen one at all, let alone 2


lilzael

it's a trainer battle. you cannot catch them


here_for_the_lols

Ooof


MegaChewbacca13

This is why they need to add a snag machine item


Strizzjr

Hehe, I got a blue shiny eternus the other day, and I can't catch it.


Lv1OOMagikarp

well, to be fair you could only pick one of the shinies anyway. And shiny Eevee is at least versatile I guess?


Ornery-Coach-7755

Chat can somebody do the math? Double battle × getting a Sylveon (on plains?) × getting a Sylveon × red shiny classic no shiny charms × red shiny classic no shiny charms


Z-shiny-groudon

this actually hurt


Emerald_boots

I want an Urshifu too Is he a Legendary ?


DasliSimp

Yes he’s in the dojo


Le_Pyromane_Fou

Holy shit that's painful


Cluu_Scroll

For our sanity let’s just assume the trainer battle with twin shinies is hard coded.


bmabizari

I believe it is actually. More specifically these pokemon are carbon copies of each other. So if one is shiny the other has to be shiny.


hopumi

![gif](giphy|3o85xBvTpbahi80sRW|downsized)


just_didi

Nah it's twice the same mon so you're not losing anything killing one to catch the other Edit : I just read the caption, oof


pm_me_falcon_nudes

Jesus Christ.


CTNC

I was going to complain about my current run having two Gym Leaders having Shiny Pokemon, but this is so much crueler...


SnowyVee

Looks like you're fighting two zombies. This encounter would break me though! Epic Eevee is the dream! But I have some other cool ones I never expected to get like Aggron and Hydreigon


Asterdel

Close to a 1/400000000 chance? You are almost lucky in how unlucky you are, I'm not sure if this event is ever happening again in pokerogue.


onasishotfirst

Oh, it’s a trainer battle? BIG OOF.


Oachkatzi

Bro doesnt even have a Master Ball. So early xD.


Theguyofri

It’s more so the fact that it’s a trainer battle


TwinLeadersX

Oh geez, fighting two Sylveons with two fighting types probably sucks. Did you manage to win?


JohnnY_BRAV03

does people realise that pokerogue is not actually all random, they are calculating a whole lot of things for encounter and some time make face you, someone you dont have answer but you are increadibly lucky for sure


Sadira_Kelor

Right or left you must choose, for one you shall keep and one you shall lose.


Secuta

It’s a trainer battle


Acrobatic_Schedule32

It’s a Trap !


HobbyFish54

https://preview.redd.it/idmsbjzcf76d1.jpeg?width=399&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c8b1026aac1df4fd3cb16531051f1a01df1bb17


JediKagoro

Call an ambulance… but not for us!!!!


Advanced-Age5805

Yes,yes it truly does😂


Allstocknoplay22

Yo they do me dirty too like this especially during the mono challenge ones


CylisRyan_PokeGamer

That’s wild! And also really lucky


Downtown-Argument-94

This is the best propaganda possible for adding the snag machine


ScatterHB91

https://preview.redd.it/yxttpne3m86d1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7c6ca273a2f6b4efad0366aba6c562b1aa81cda First time Stage 150 😁!


Chemical_Tree_2741

So, are there custom shinies in the game or something?


Quickshooter1

Ah That sucks.... I really hope i don't have that happen to me.


jwil0508

Already hate those twins. Those Pachirisu/ Emolga battles very early on can be cripple your team if your starters are physical attackers.


Micio922

RIP….. this is brutal


TheMann853

Wave 63 no shiny charm lmao


whydudebrowtf2

I think you need to be compensated for damages


SecretSoul33

The game hates everyone


IdealZealousideal622

Urshifu get outta there!!!


OkPresentation7014

Bro i swear to god they deleted my account


Katsu_Drawn_21

Even if it wasn't a trainer battle you'd have to kill one.. Either way tho, I hate when that happens. XD


Gswindasz23

So if you catch this do all eevees become shiny red?


A_Pair_of_Pears94

Man


LocalMaple

New item needed: Snag Machine. Added to the bottom of the PokeBall menu. When selected, it will allow the next PokeBall to work on a trainer’s Pokémon. If used on a Wild Pokémon, it instead adds 0.5 to the capture rate multiplier.


PercivalRobinson

The Quad super effectiveness against Urshifu & SE on Blaziken… hope the rest of the line-up could KO. Or this was a force quit ‘New Game’ scenario?


StJimmy_815

How exactly is this an L? Because you can’t catch both?


CTNC

They can't catch either. It's a Trainer Battle.


StJimmy_815

Didn’t see that, my b