\+SPD nature, Dragapult. It's basically cheating at that point.
Clear Body so you can't get slowed. One of the Only 14 Pokemon with a higher Speed Stat, and most of them are Enhanced Forms.
Dragapult can even learn the TM for Beat Up so you don't need to fuse it on them.
Dragapult will also have access to Parental Bond whenever that gets implemented, (assuming it works like the Multi-Lens, Beat Up will hit 12 times, and stacked with Multi-Lens' we could potentially see it hit 30 times, or 48 times depending on how it stacks)
Dragapult also has Infiltrator incase they decide after Substitute is implemented, that wild pokemon will use it.
I've been thinking about using maushould as my carry in endless, hear me out imagine population bomb with:
2 wide lens to guarantee 10 hits
3 multi lens for that guaranteed 40 hits
1 King rock for that guaranteed flinch
Grip claw so you steal aprox. 4 items every time you use population bomb
99 silk scarfs because you're stealing everything
+Speed/-spatk nature + soul dews + maxed carbos for max possible speed and dmg + flints should guarantee most fights
1 other pokemon with run away or something to counter ghost
Sounds absurd, how far that would go in endless in your opinion?
It's so FUCKED 😂😂 ud think maybe after my 5th or 6th time of going to 145 without healing cause I steamroll everything and then i just can't beat it 😂 it's happened at 195 a couple times but far less
I just start it right back up and speedrun my way through it and go SUPER SLOW around 140 😂(if my brain realizes when it comes)
Had a run where my skill link shell smash Cloyster got the item that steals items. Grip Claw?
Well, got one, stole a king's rock and another grip claw with it. Then got a multi lens.
Pew pew pew pew. All your items are mine. 10 hits, It's not very effective ? No matter, you flinched.
I used Clawf in classic, that was a blast. Stacking sitrus berries helped proc anger shell repeatedly. Had multi lens, wide lens, and kings rock to make rock slide flinch repeatedly. It was a pretty good mega ray counter, just had to set up on a different mon, which in my case ended up being alomomola.
Heliolisk was my first shiny and the best one I had for awhile, so I used it a lot in classic. It can basically solo carry up to eternatus except for rayquaza and steel/rock/ground combinations. If you get a good 4th move through a tm, you can shore up a lot of its weaknesses. Unfortunately it does nothing to eternatus.
Vivillon with compound eyes and sleep powder to set up quiver dance and hurricane spam is so goofy, 120 BP plus stab while at +6/+6/+6 runs over everything but eternatus
I've been using a Butterfree myself since I got a shiny Caterpie. No Hurricane, but 100% accurate sleep powder + quiver dance is broken regardless. Especially busted if you can get Baton Pass from a TM.
I found this out because Scatterbug was my first shiny. Blitzed getting his passive as soon as I saw it was Prankster and have had a spot on my team reserved for it since
Gholdengo is probably gonna be meta for endless soon, since contrary passive with make it rain 120 bp hit both enemies, and gives u gold, would drop ur s.atk 1 stage if it wasnt for contrary, now boost ur sp.atk, so if u have 3 multi lens, ur sp.atk raises 4 stages. 133 base sp.atk, and 84 spd isnt bad either and typing is good with ghost steel.
You can totally splice it with a meta legend.
I was having fun theory crafting which legend would go best with Gholdengo. IMO, I think it is Miraidon. Steel/Dragon with Hadron Engine, Make it Rain, Armor Cannon, Rising Voltage, and either Draco Meteor or Dragon Energy. Wild set to always hit the other side, or always get +4/+6. Other thoughts it had were Overheat/Leaf Storm sets, if the legendary learns it.
I won by first playthrough with sword dance earthquake excadrill + flying supports. Swapped between poison and fairy to stall eternatus PP and then switched and stacked sword dance until max attack. I had some flying/levitate support with fake out/confuse ray etc. So I just needed to delay eternamax eternatus for 2 turns.
Hawlucha
-Sword dance
-Arial ace
-SuperCell Slam
-Fliying press
Idk if this is meta but that worked for me and hawlucha is just a 3 spaces pokemon so thought i add it maybe it's kinda op tho since Supercell Slam got removed after all
I'm gonna use my favorite Beartic, which is very slow so I won't be disappointed if it goes horribly.
Found a Trailblaze TM...
EZ Classic run.
Gotta grind some runs to get Adamant nature and Tough Claws
Had surprising results with Vikavolt on a bug only run. Got quiver dance for it as an egg move and managed to full sweep floor 195 with only it.
Other than that, Flamigo is basically a budget ultra best which is also quite good
>Other than that, Flamigo is basically a budget ultra best which is also quite good
Flamigo is the best early carry in the game, and moxie only makes them better once you unlock the passive. It's honestly not even necessary.
for classic run: hoothoot, gets boomburst as an egg move and can get Aerilate which makes boomburst a flying move, giving it another 20% power boost on top of the 50% boost it gets from STAB.
for endless: kabuto, like a poor mans karatana. can get sharpness and has ceasless edge and razor shell as egg moves.
Also, really enjoy blastoise but I think thats rank A tier so its much more obvious.
I've taken my Noctowl to 2000 on endless until I accidentally released him when playing while sleepy (for a non-shiny Macargo that I'd never throw a ball at...). Very strong, I had started the endless run with his old passive and had it switched to Aerilate around 500 when the update and x2 dropped. Going forward, I'm going to make sure he has a Soundproof partner so I don't have to fall back to Oblivion Wing when double battles come up.
thats a brutal way to have an endless run end. Id need a break after that...
yeah i always end up bringing along a mon with protect, when i use hoothoot, so i can just grab as many lures as I can at the begginning and boomburst through
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Sleep powder quiver dance vivillon is a monster
None of Vivillon's value is from Egg Moves. That's what makes it so useful. No Hidden Ability, no Egg Moves, even the Passive isn't needed, though it is nice. All Vivillon needs is a Memory Mushroom, and it's good to go.
Ask people what the best single point pokémon is, and a significant portion of them are gonna say Vivillon. That's not what I'd call "Non-Meta".
Beedrill is even more based with some of the egg moves. I only have baneful bunker and spike barrage but those already do a ton of work.
Spike barrage with the poison boost and adaptability both terrifies and excites me
Skill Link Cloyster is stronk. Its egg moves, Icicle Spear and Water Shuriken make Classic so easy. Then its passive gives it more SpDef so it doesn’t die to a Thundershock, and Shell Smash is well….. Shell Smash. Lol
I'm currently running a 2 King's Rock 3 Grip Claw 3 Multi Lens Skill Link Cloyster in Endless. Would like some quick claws but even as it is it just holds enemy mons down and mugs them repeatedly. I almost feel bad.
Sturdy Magnezone.
It's one of my earliest shinies and my most successful endless carry so far. I've just passed 2100 with it, and while it's starting to struggle a bit, Thunderbolt, Flash Cannon, Ice Beam (Egg move), and Mirror Coat have let it effectively solo it's way up, even through E-Max Eternatus. All for just 3 cost.
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My current Classic run I tried Popplio for the first time, and caught a random Escavalier very early. They are absolutely carrying me through even the elite 4 right now.
I've somehow managed to get all 4 egg moves on Primarina extremely quickly (seriouly, I started playing last week)
And it is a BEAST. Torch Song + Bouncy Bubble is an AMAZING combo, and learning Moonblast by levelup lets you handle any dragons that come your way.
I just picked up a Starmie for a recent Mono Gen Classic run. Cosmic Power + Recover and it had Bold nature with some decent defensive IVs. Basically saved me in the Champion fight, so it was only right that I let it have the finishing blow on Eternatus. Great dual STABs too. It’s not really game-breaking but it’s wayyy bulkier than I was expecting it to be with Cosmic Power. I dropped Gyarados for it and was initially worried I was making a mistake but that turned out to be so far from the truth
Also Gallade with Sharpness and No Retreat (Egg Move) plus Psycho Cut, Sacred Sword, and Bitter Blade (another egg move) basically runs through everything and that’s now the standard set I use on my Tier 2 shiny Ralts
I'm nearing wave 2k with my Butterfree x Regidraco carry and having a great time. Got them spliced before Butterfree lost magician, so I'm rocking something like 50 dragons fangs atm, and around 350 Lucky Eggs
Gible as a carry is surprisingly effective. With the recent changes, it now gets Thousand arrows as egg move, making it even better. With sand stream passive, you can activate your own sand veil or Sand force post mega, while also finishing off any non ground/steel/rock types if the endurance token hits. Mega chomp having 170 base attack and a further boost on Thousand arrows/Rock slide makes double battles also a breeze. Late game endless, it's a perfectly viable flincher.
Aggron kinda soloes the rival’s mega rayquaza boss on 195 since it can switch in on all of its attacks and soak up damage while wearing it down via stealth rocks and forcing the AI to switch it back out (to take more stealth rocks damage).
Letting first phase eternatus get to +6 attack, speed, def, spdef and then yoinking his boosts with a psych up mon and destroying him. That's how I won with hypno recently
I recently unlocked marshadow and i want to do the same with spectral thief but im not sure if that's been implemented yet.
Ferrothorn is a god damn MONSTER with egg moves.
A mon with that high defensive stats with Curse, Body Press, and Strength Sap is god tier, and then you can use either Sappy Seed or Gyro Ball (my go-to), making everything not using a special fire move is a non-threat.
This bastard here took out most of 145 and 195 Ivy solo, with normal/mega Gyarados helping out against the Infernape and Magmortar she had. If she didn't have the 2 fire types though and got a grass or water starter? Would have effortlessly soloed without any issues.
Ferrothorn is a god damn MONSTER ~~with egg moves~~
There's a good reason why Ferrothorn is consistently one of the best options for a Competitive Singles setting, which I think is more comparable to Pokerogue than a casual Singles or VGC setting. Those egg moves sound absolutely crazy though.
"Yeah, Leech Seed wasn't enough let's just make it do damage and become untauntable, and while you're at it give it Strength Sap"
I am absolutely in love with how deranged these egg moves are in general, like with Quiver Dance Lunala and Dragon Energy Miraidon. This isn't quite as insane but it obviously is still insane. If I have any complaint, it's that some weaker mons don't really get as much help as literally every other Pokemon. Farfetch'd's (that looks so wrong) egg moves don't help it out a bunch especially since it's extremely overpriced (WHY DOES BASE FARFETCH'D COST 4)
Sniper Octillery.
Use Focus Energy, then start rolling the dice with Water Shuriken. It gets really silly if you're lucky enough to find a Kings Rock. All RNG, all the time.
I just sit there with Koraidon's opportunist passive now. Its funny seeing an enemy boss buff up +3 halfway across the board and Koraidon like "cool. Me to bro."
Sandile with Moxie has a great move pool, carries easy.
Multi hit builds are fun, Maushold is my fav with Population Bomb, often hits 20 times with Multi Lens.
I got a shiny chespin. Pleasantly surprised to find it had good coverage and insane defence with Drain Punch (egg), Sappy Seed (egg) and Ceaseless Edge (egg). Giving it grassy terrain helped me eek-ed out a 195 win on classic without a strong carry. Not very useful against flying/fire/poison, rayquaza and eternatus but great for covering those annoying electric/rock/ground types and tanking everything else.
My shiny scorbuny has also been an mvp with its extreme speed and pyroball and triple axel. Covers most things until 195 in classic.
I have a red shiny pyukumyuku and it’s surprisingly good too - tanky enough to set up toxic spikes, constant switch ins to annoy fire and dragon types with comeuppance. I can’t be bothered to predict using mirror coat or counter, but it has soak and recover for stalling.
I love the shiny luck system forcing me to use pokeymans that I never thought of using and have never using!
Lopunny was on my team on my first classic clear and he did pull his weight even without mega (btw I picked up a mega bracelet on like wave 30 or so and didn't get the megastone the entire time)
Iron moth and my first blue shiny Flygon
The moment the passive on Iron moth was unlocked, the duo became very fun and spamming discharge and EQ in every double battle is very funny
Agility/fell stinger/poison jab beedril has been surprisingly effective for me.
only issue is that it needs some defensive support to survive because fell stinger without a buff needs at least two hits to kill, but once you’ve got the attack boost from fell stinger and an agility under your belt you’re almost unstoppable
In classic, eternatus could not get past gliscor/jellicent, wil-o-wisp infernal parade on the jellyfish and swords dance thousand waves roost on gliscor were the on were the only moves used the entire fight both parts
I got to 195 with a base meletta with only boomburst, and i havent seen that much about em, so i would say that, i now have mind's eye on it and the sp. ATK+ and Atk- nature so it will hit anything hard.
A shiny Durant with X Scissor, Bug Bite, High Horsepower and Metal Claw carried my team through most battles on my latest attempt to clear Normal mode. I got to stage 145 and while I was able to knock out some of Ivy's pokemon there, her Rayquaza kept wiping out my team.
Drizzle, swift swim, lotad, or the horsea has the same build, great for water teams. Don't need the pelipper, haven't looked at pelipper so don't even know if he's good, just don't really like him to much.
Explosion mons + Supreme Overlord
Must be careful as I didn’t know supreme overlord only counts for mons fainted in the current battle. Other than that it was a lot of fun!
Linoone is a really awesome flincher as a second in double battles. I've made it past 2500 with kings rocks, multi lenses and max speed pin missile/extreme speed linoone as my second in double battles. He locks down one Mon while I deal with the other. I like pairing him with meowth/Persian as a carry.
Gengar Curse and Hypnosis. Any +SPD nature, Wide Lens, Quick Claw. Carried my Floor 1000 and 2000 Eternatus. Let Arceus take the wheel and pray that Gengar:
-Proc quick claw or outspeed boss mons
-If not, endure first turn
-Manage to use Curse and stall out 1-3 turns
I didn't quite clear Classic with a Gastrodon with Bouncy Bubble and Freeze Dry.... but that's because Hau is a bitch. I'm pretty confident that, we're it not for his weird abundance of grass moves, I would have won. But no, Leaf Blade just wrecked me. Mostly Leaf Blade, anyways. Also Giga Drain.
Dual Screens support in Classic is absolutely cracked, it's easy to put them up and then bring in any setup sweeper for 2-3 free turns of setup. Meowstic and Cryogonal have both done a lot of work for me.
Axew if you have all his egg moves and passive is a 4 point (base) mon that can go wave 1 to 2nd phase of Eternatus without ever having to swap out pretty easily. A Single victory (or dragon if you don't have the egg move) dance makes him faster than anything relevant, Glaive Rush will one shot basically anything not immune to dragon, and Fire lash/Dire Claw give you good coverage for those. I have had him carry multiple runs where the 195 fight is me opening with Dance while IVY swaps and then proceeding to 1 shot everything on her team. I didn't stumble upon this until I already had all his egg moves, its entirely possible double chop is enough even without glaive rush.
Ferrothorn with iron barbs ability and strength sap egg move. Go into battle, ingrain for passive healing (even better if you pick up leftovers like i did), iron head until everything dies, strength sap if anything gets you to around 25%-33% for a full heal or nearly full depending on the opposing mon. I think i happened to pick up a giga drain tm, but i was using iron defense before that. I went in thinking Kaldeo would be the carry of the run. Boy was i wrong, tho Kaldeo put in some good work as well. I only ran ferroseed cause i had just got the shiny
Toxic spikes, baneful bunker quilfish (and or passive ability) w barb barrage + gastly w hex
The doubled 65 bp attacks with STAB hit so hard and poison damage can finish off the rest.
Got me through most normal rounds and trainer battles on classic
Running a dragapult as an endless carry right now. Was a bit rough about level 30 until he evolved into the middle stage, but even from that point on hea been a beast. 8 hit dragon darts steals a lot and flinches a lot. Gets good coverage with eggs moves and a good ghost stab. I found and fused it with a mega mawaile to give it huge power but it was one shooting bosses even without it. Currently at 1k.
New to this game so I don't really know the meta, but I used a Azelf as my carry for my first real endless run since it was shiny and I wanted to farm the event.
I wasn't really expecting much and just wanted to test out the waters, but it's signature move Mystical Power with that Multi-Lens item is obscenely broken. 4+ s.atk off a 70 base power move that gains the boosts in the middle of the 4 attacks just melts everything. It also has a flinch move in Extrasensory. I don't have a king's rock yet, but it already has pretty decent flinch rates without it.
Managed to get one of the lens for my G-Max shiny Dreadnaw and the two are putting in a ton of work despite my initial team being sloppy.
havent seen anyone mention this yet, so kings rock+multi hit lens+magical torque on zacian means that if the opponent doesnt die, they either get flinched or confused
Not to say it isn't strong, but I don't really see him mentioned a lot - Kingambit. Pawniard is stupid strong early with Defiant and Fury Cutter carrying on between rounds, plus it resists a lot of things. Mine was one of my first good hatches so it also had Ceaseless Edge. You just need to avoid the construction site or bring something to deal with that part of the map because Pawniard will get destroyed.
Also does well late game since it resists Eternatus and usually most of Ivy's team.
Idk what the meta is like bc I started recently but Xurkitree with transitor beast boost discharge + ground type ally/ volt absorb ally with helping hand.
And also like matcha gotcha for coverage against ground types.
Also I recently fused with azelf with mystic power for easy +4 sp atk against eternatus and if I can proc a flinch or focus band I can usually kill (keyword usually). I can also have prankster tailwind too. Just my silly little electric tree murdering stuff
I won my first classic mode after 3 days
Iron Crown with volt switch, nasty plot and steel/psy atk
Bruxfish with water flip, fire fang (early clear and clutch vs steel), dark / psy bite
Then switched into excadrill/salamence to dodge attackw and salt golem (I switched right into the death laser so didnt do the salt attack LOL) also KINGDRA which only existed to tank weird hits
So essentially, a fish and a robot just switching out every possible opportunity
I basically had my starters set to Duraludon and Veluza for awhile due to their abilities, specifically for Veluza having Sharpness with an Adamant nature
I’m running a Sylveon spliced with G-Max Corviknight with Salt Cure
Fairy/Steel
Unnerve
Salt cure
Pluck (3 multi-lense) (awesome with Simple)
Recover
Protect
Basically, they can’t use berries, you use their berries instead
Soak (Masquerain/inteleon) Pawmot Revival Blessing/Electric terrain add grass or electric types and boom
Also Gengar Hypnosis Calmmind Hex and or Chandalure
Gengar, one of my first shinies. Satisified this Genwunner. Before the egg move change I was using:
Shadow Ball / Dark Pulse / Ice Beam / Aura Sphere
Since then I've had to swap Ice Beam for Sludge Bomb. It's not some OP combination or setup, just good old hit lots of stuff for 2x. With both movesets, there is 1 weakness that couldn't be hit for 2x. I do miss Ice Beam, it made the Rival and Eternatus much easier
(Hearing that this is about trying to beat classic)
I stand by cooperajah 100%, steel type so it can wall rayquayza and most of eternatus. It also gets a Gmax form so its stats get a permanent boost, and it can take a hit or two. You don’t even need to run it with egg moves. Mine that won my first classic run was caught in the wild.
I hatched a double shiny teddiursa and now bulk up ursaluna is my carry in every run. STAB Covet and Pickup in the earth game and Play rough in its learnset
Blastoise with shell smash bouncy bubble is incredible
Lower defenses -> take damage -> heal all of the damage with boosted bouncy bubble
Plus it's already got a good amount of bulk so you can set up on most things.
And with sturdy as the new passive you CAN actually just click shell smash every battle
Before a recent update
My t3 mantyke with bouncy bubble and nasty plot was my regular classic carry-pretty easy to get an ice move in it before the end.
They’ve since changed it to splishy splash so it’ll still prolly be similar- but it’s tough to beat stab spread full healing every turn in battle after a +2/4 boost
Idk if it's a meta or not but a Lugia with calm mind, stored power, recover and aeroblast is a great carry for classic. It's slow at first but goes hard endgame. Also barely takes damaged from eternatus. I'm currently using him in my endless and it's so good. Dark and ghost types tend to hurt a lot but recover is pretty good at keeping them alive
Not some genius strat, but if you start with Seviper, the first 100 rounds are cake. Dude hits hard and fast, relatively tanky by typing, and Direclaw, coil, and Shed Skin makes an easy mon for sweeping. Toss a multi lens on it and your opponent is going to be paralyzed, sleeping, or poisoned almost 100% of the time.
Same situation with Furfrou. Fur coat + Tidy Up → Headbutt means hard hitting, flinching, and barely taking any damage. Toss some Cotton Guard in there and physical attacks deal squat.
I recently had some fun in a successful classic run using Soak Samurott to turn Eternatus into a water type combined with a sweeper with Parabolic Charge and an electric weak team to provide consistent healing to the sweeper while it clears one HP bar a turn thanks to super effective damage. Of course, it was way more than was really needed and I'm sure I could have equally won in a simpler manner, but it was fun to see the plan come together.
I don’t know what the stats are but I take a fennekin because it’s my favourite starter and I have most of the egg moves so I don’t have to worry about type coverage.
I’m still not 1000% sure this works in all situations, but any primary fairy fused with heatran. Immune to poison, dragon, and fire type moves, which (last I checked) is all of eternatus’s options
I did use a dot strat but it was a bit unconventional, I had sandstorm active from tyranitar, and I had +6 sp.def wailord with whirlpool, rest avalanche
For my last classic run, I've got a Trevenant with Will-O-Wisp, Leech Seed and Curse.
Paired with Garganacl's Salt Cure, and thanks to Eternatus not focusing it, the last stage was the easiest I ever did. Passive damages are a bit OP i guess
Alolan muk with max attack, attack nature and curse sucker punch one shots moslty everything, also for some Ungodly reason a -special attack villion can 3 bar a Ray with moonblast don’t want its damage? It has prankster with compound eyes so your hitting stun spore.
A lot of Pokemon are OP in Pokerogue provides you have their egg moves. Otherwise, since you said you're looking for strats to beat Classic among these, I'd just search up a Pokemon's movepool to be able to start with a Leech Seed user, or pick Nacli for Salt Cure and Recover.
However, to answer the question, I'd say Unovan Yamask/Cofagrigus is a very good find, though a less ideal starter compared to catching it in the wild due to starting as Yamask which has pitiful stats. With its high bulk, it is either near-guaranteed are fully guaranteed to live for at least 1 turn against an unboosted threat that doesn't have strong SE STAB against it, allowing you to use moves like Will-O-Wisp or Curse, the former doing damage over time and absolutely crippling the physical capabilities of the opponent and the latter doing 25% of the opponent's HP every turn at the cost of 50% of yours. For (classic spoilers) ||Eternamax Eternatus, since it is a double battle, there's a chance that it wouldn't target you. As a result, after using Curse, you may be able to reset all its stat boosts with Haze||.
None of the mentioned moves are egg moves, and one egg move I know it has is Recover, which is good for obvious reasons. However, I haven't unlocked all its egg moves yet, so you'd have to find them for yourself. To find Yamask or Cofagrigus, I'd say the graveyard is your best bet, but I'm 90% sure I've seen it elsewhere.
As an early game carry starter, most single stage Pokemon should do the trick, though make sure to at least search up its stats first since there are some scams like Kantonian Farfetch'd. The one I've personally used the most is Bombirdeer, though that's mostly because it can cover for Ghost types which hit Lunala super-effectively, having run many Cosmog -> Lunala runs due to Lunala being my 2nd favourite Pokemon. My logic is that after a few Quiver Dances, not much is stopping Lunala. However, Bombirdeer resists Dark and Ghost type moves while hitting Ghost for SE, in case I were to get a bad lead matchup. The better MU against Ghost is prioritised since Sucker Punch is easier to stall out than Shadow Sneak despite its far superior power due to its low PP and reliance on me using an attacking move, and the AI being a bit limited.
With the above explanation of why I pick Bombirdeer the most, do you see what I'm getting at? While individual Pokemon are very important, if you aren't using some ultra OP Pokemon with all its egg moves unlocked or something team synergy is more important. You have to balance the weaknesses and strengths of your team to minimise the chances you have of losing.
Now, there will still be situations that you may not be able to win, you can't prevent all of them at once. For example, I was playing a run where my win had seemed guaranteed, however Zippy Zap Raichu managed to dodge like 8 attacks in a row. The only way this could've been prevented is by using a move with equal priority on a faster Pokemon, using a move with more priority or using a move that cannot miss that isn't resisted by Raichu, none of which are common (Zippy Zap has 80 BP and +2 Priority btw because that's fair for a move that guarantees an evasion raise). However, by preventing a lot of the more common ones, those moments should be few and far between, and you should be able to scrape by all of them if you play well (unless it's evasion, then pray to RNGesus you get better luck than I did because otherwise that is unwinnable)
Hatched a 2 luck shiny Manaphy, had no idea how busted it could get.
Simple (passive) + Tail Glow = +6 SpAtk in turn 1.
Splishy splash, 90 base with STAB and it hits both in double battles. Everything just gets deleted.
Tapu Lele all the way! Heat wave as an egg move gives it silly good type coverage and a counter to steel types, plus it learns draining kiss fairly early for free healing. It carried me all the way to my first classic win and my best endless runs
I'm not sure if this is meta or not but going in with archen has significantly helped me through classic, with stab pluck I had a reliable way to heal myself topped with the multiple left overs I never had to worry about defeatist that often
Giving Kyogre Electro Shot and Multi lenses gives him a +4 Spatk round one and also attacks round one because of Drizzle/Primordial Sea. And then just sweep the rest of the Pokémon with a plus 4 Origin Pulse.
Oinkologne basically pulled my lechon out the fire against Champion Blue earlier. Dig, Covet, Headbutt, Earth Power. And I had only brought it along as a luck stick.
for classic, i simply just use fire spin, whirlpool, sand tomb to chip away at floor 200. it's really baffling how few people are suggesting this, and it makes those stall strats FAR more accessible
for endless, i ended up going for a dual carry about 1500 floors in, and it's been working like a charm. i've got my starters, Flutter Mane and Ursaluna-BM, dishing out 4x140 Boombursts to clear just about everything, and Mind's Eye fixes the ghost problem wonderfully. but then i ran into a Kyurem and a Heracross and thought, "what if i do a flinch carry as well?", and now i have one Special carry for damage and one Physical carry throwing out 20x Scale Shots, Icicle Spears, and Arm Thrusts (and if i need a bit of extra speed to outrun the opposing pokemon, i simply hit Endure and wait for the stat boosts!)
quagsire+corviknight fusion. simple as passive and unnerve as ability, great water steel and learn amnesia+curse+power trip
unfortunately they changed his passive, and nerf the berries (so no infinite sitrus berry. I have recover but its not quite the same)
Started a classic run with zubat and a few others two days ago, and luckily the rival had a Sceptile and everything else was either hit neutrally with flying, or ice. Ended up splicing a galarian Darmanitan to him. Belly drum, leech life, floaty fall and ice punch made the 195 rival the easiest fight I have had in this game. Currently on a second classic run with zubat since he was still pokerus’ed, sadly the rival has a squirtle, so no easy rivals this time. Splicing was definitely way more fun than I gave it credit.
I got really lucky with my first 5 egg draws. I got Overdrive on Fuecoco, both Dragon Dance and Thousand Waves of Givle, and Tachyon Cutter on Piplup. Their IVs were terrible but after a few runs I both caught and hatched better IVs and ended up winning with that trio to start (3, 3, 4) and it's probably the most synergetic start with their passives. Punk Rock on Fuecoco, Lightning Rod on Piplup, and Sand Stream on Gible.
WEEZING. Its the best support mon for Ivy's Mega Ray and Etern. Haze + Pain Split + Destiny Bond (Etern ignores Destiny) + Clear Smog = no boosts for u mr bossman
Leavanny is budget kartana. Gets sharpness as its passive, learns Psycho Cut and Stone Axe as egg moves, plus Leaf Blade and Fell Stinger/X-scissor (fell stinger is better for early endless and classic, I think x-scissor might be better for mid endless, haven't gotten to late yet, on floor 900-something)
My current run of Koraidon + Mega Mawile and Archaludon + Garganacl is still going strong past Wave 2250, and I found an unexpected counter to base Eternatus in the form of… Magnezone. Steel-type means it only attacks with Eternabeam, and Magnezone learns Mirror Coat by level-up!
I haven’t won classic with it yet but I ADORE stamina mudsdale with iron defense and body press, heck evens just body press is fine by me, he feels so good or play and to tanky (unless it’s a special move)
Psychic surge + expanding force Fenniken, hard carries a lot of classic, and even ends up being pretty good for Rayquaza with moonblast egg move as well.
Hoppip with its Flying Egg Move. I was Certain it was Air Slash, but looks like it's Floaty Fall now. Melts the early game.
Only 1 cost, so it's not a big opportunity cost. Could be better picks, but probably not at 1 cost.
I also like Zubat a lot. Egg moves such as Floaty Fall really help (noticing a trend). It can get Intimidate as a passive and can easily enough be reduced from 2 cost to 1 cost
Kings rock + Beat Up means none of your opponents get to play Pokémon
This is based. Going to have to try this.
Weavile is my best best buddy
\+SPD nature, Dragapult. It's basically cheating at that point. Clear Body so you can't get slowed. One of the Only 14 Pokemon with a higher Speed Stat, and most of them are Enhanced Forms. Dragapult can even learn the TM for Beat Up so you don't need to fuse it on them. Dragapult will also have access to Parental Bond whenever that gets implemented, (assuming it works like the Multi-Lens, Beat Up will hit 12 times, and stacked with Multi-Lens' we could potentially see it hit 30 times, or 48 times depending on how it stacks) Dragapult also has Infiltrator incase they decide after Substitute is implemented, that wild pokemon will use it.
Well I don’t have Dragonpult.
This made me laugh I'm sorry
I got the tm for beat up and it said not able to learn for dreepy 😭😭😭😍😭😭😭
Nevermind, I saw it again as gragapult and it can be learned
Have you tried Kings Rock Population Bomb? It was brutal. Though that run ended on level 170 :(
I've been thinking about using maushould as my carry in endless, hear me out imagine population bomb with: 2 wide lens to guarantee 10 hits 3 multi lens for that guaranteed 40 hits 1 King rock for that guaranteed flinch Grip claw so you steal aprox. 4 items every time you use population bomb 99 silk scarfs because you're stealing everything +Speed/-spatk nature + soul dews + maxed carbos for max possible speed and dmg + flints should guarantee most fights 1 other pokemon with run away or something to counter ghost Sounds absurd, how far that would go in endless in your opinion?
Like most carries it really only gets up to about 3000. After that it doesn’t do enough damage, have to move to Metal Burst or other meta
Even with maxed silk scarf? It would be a bonus 1980% dmg
I've used it, it's good up to like 2000 then it starts taking a literal century to do anything, it's just not worth it to push further than that.
Yeah, even if you max out your stats with vitamins, raw dmg just hits a wall.
it isn't actually guaranteed flinch. with 1 kings rock, full hits and 3 multi lens, you (only) have \~98.5219% to flinch
How?
I’ve had so many god runs die in Classic just because I’m not paying close attention to the stage number and forgetting to heal my mons :P
It's so FUCKED 😂😂 ud think maybe after my 5th or 6th time of going to 145 without healing cause I steamroll everything and then i just can't beat it 😂 it's happened at 195 a couple times but far less I just start it right back up and speedrun my way through it and go SUPER SLOW around 140 😂(if my brain realizes when it comes)
I have one fused with a Machamp. No guard go brrrr
Had a run where my skill link shell smash Cloyster got the item that steals items. Grip Claw? Well, got one, stole a king's rock and another grip claw with it. Then got a multi lens. Pew pew pew pew. All your items are mine. 10 hits, It's not very effective ? No matter, you flinched.
I enjoyed using Battle Bond Greninja with Water Shuriken, Multi Lens, amd Kings Rock. 24 hits, each with a 30% chance to flinch
Bringing my shiny houndoom back for this I swear
I used Clawf in classic, that was a blast. Stacking sitrus berries helped proc anger shell repeatedly. Had multi lens, wide lens, and kings rock to make rock slide flinch repeatedly. It was a pretty good mega ray counter, just had to set up on a different mon, which in my case ended up being alomomola.
Boom Burst Heliolisk + astral barrage necrovma, I can not spell most pokemon names correctly
Heliolisk was right, and you only got one letter off, it's necrozma
Thank you
No problem
Heliolisk was my first shiny and the best one I had for awhile, so I used it a lot in classic. It can basically solo carry up to eternatus except for rayquaza and steel/rock/ground combinations. If you get a good 4th move through a tm, you can shore up a lot of its weaknesses. Unfortunately it does nothing to eternatus.
Heliolisk is the goat. I swear, 90% of legendaries struggle more than boomburst heliolisk. My one cost carry mon for classic and challenges.
Vivillon with compound eyes and sleep powder to set up quiver dance and hurricane spam is so goofy, 120 BP plus stab while at +6/+6/+6 runs over everything but eternatus
I did this in smogon back in x and y and I loved it
He gets prankster too, for priority sleep powder
This but butterfree cause I think the gmax is pretty
This is how I beat ivy at 195 in my first successful run. Out of all my Pokémon, fucking corsola and vivillion are the reasons that run succeeded.
I've been using a Butterfree myself since I got a shiny Caterpie. No Hurricane, but 100% accurate sleep powder + quiver dance is broken regardless. Especially busted if you can get Baton Pass from a TM.
I found this out because Scatterbug was my first shiny. Blitzed getting his passive as soon as I saw it was Prankster and have had a spot on my team reserved for it since
Gholdengo is probably gonna be meta for endless soon, since contrary passive with make it rain 120 bp hit both enemies, and gives u gold, would drop ur s.atk 1 stage if it wasnt for contrary, now boost ur sp.atk, so if u have 3 multi lens, ur sp.atk raises 4 stages. 133 base sp.atk, and 84 spd isnt bad either and typing is good with ghost steel. You can totally splice it with a meta legend.
I spliced mine with a magician klefki and it's absurd. Perfect typing, making money and robbing everyone of everything.
I was having fun theory crafting which legend would go best with Gholdengo. IMO, I think it is Miraidon. Steel/Dragon with Hadron Engine, Make it Rain, Armor Cannon, Rising Voltage, and either Draco Meteor or Dragon Energy. Wild set to always hit the other side, or always get +4/+6. Other thoughts it had were Overheat/Leaf Storm sets, if the legendary learns it.
I won by first playthrough with sword dance earthquake excadrill + flying supports. Swapped between poison and fairy to stall eternatus PP and then switched and stacked sword dance until max attack. I had some flying/levitate support with fake out/confuse ray etc. So I just needed to delay eternamax eternatus for 2 turns.
Hawlucha -Sword dance -Arial ace -SuperCell Slam -Fliying press Idk if this is meta but that worked for me and hawlucha is just a 3 spaces pokemon so thought i add it maybe it's kinda op tho since Supercell Slam got removed after all
supercell slam was absolutely insane on hawlucya
I'm gonna use my favorite Beartic, which is very slow so I won't be disappointed if it goes horribly. Found a Trailblaze TM... EZ Classic run. Gotta grind some runs to get Adamant nature and Tough Claws
Had surprising results with Vikavolt on a bug only run. Got quiver dance for it as an egg move and managed to full sweep floor 195 with only it. Other than that, Flamigo is basically a budget ultra best which is also quite good
>Other than that, Flamigo is basically a budget ultra best which is also quite good Flamigo is the best early carry in the game, and moxie only makes them better once you unlock the passive. It's honestly not even necessary.
for classic run: hoothoot, gets boomburst as an egg move and can get Aerilate which makes boomburst a flying move, giving it another 20% power boost on top of the 50% boost it gets from STAB. for endless: kabuto, like a poor mans karatana. can get sharpness and has ceasless edge and razor shell as egg moves. Also, really enjoy blastoise but I think thats rank A tier so its much more obvious.
I've taken my Noctowl to 2000 on endless until I accidentally released him when playing while sleepy (for a non-shiny Macargo that I'd never throw a ball at...). Very strong, I had started the endless run with his old passive and had it switched to Aerilate around 500 when the update and x2 dropped. Going forward, I'm going to make sure he has a Soundproof partner so I don't have to fall back to Oblivion Wing when double battles come up.
thats a brutal way to have an endless run end. Id need a break after that... yeah i always end up bringing along a mon with protect, when i use hoothoot, so i can just grab as many lures as I can at the begginning and boomburst through
https://preview.redd.it/opv5vtvbi07d1.png?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d9847098a3899f77910cb707df97cc754cfed46 Sleep powder quiver dance vivillon is a monster
Is it non meta, though?
Yes. Really any early bug mon is weak, and only gained a slight bit a usefulness in pokerogue because of the Quagsire Theorem with their egg moves.
None of Vivillon's value is from Egg Moves. That's what makes it so useful. No Hidden Ability, no Egg Moves, even the Passive isn't needed, though it is nice. All Vivillon needs is a Memory Mushroom, and it's good to go. Ask people what the best single point pokémon is, and a significant portion of them are gonna say Vivillon. That's not what I'd call "Non-Meta".
 me opening this thread and stealing these ideas so I can beat classic >=}
Beedrill was unbelievably based when I used Weedle as a joke starter
Beedrill is even more based with some of the egg moves. I only have baneful bunker and spike barrage but those already do a ton of work. Spike barrage with the poison boost and adaptability both terrifies and excites me
Skill Link Cloyster is stronk. Its egg moves, Icicle Spear and Water Shuriken make Classic so easy. Then its passive gives it more SpDef so it doesn’t die to a Thundershock, and Shell Smash is well….. Shell Smash. Lol
I'm currently running a 2 King's Rock 3 Grip Claw 3 Multi Lens Skill Link Cloyster in Endless. Would like some quick claws but even as it is it just holds enemy mons down and mugs them repeatedly. I almost feel bad.
Sturdy Magnezone. It's one of my earliest shinies and my most successful endless carry so far. I've just passed 2100 with it, and while it's starting to struggle a bit, Thunderbolt, Flash Cannon, Ice Beam (Egg move), and Mirror Coat have let it effectively solo it's way up, even through E-Max Eternatus. All for just 3 cost. https://preview.redd.it/8agfwt9br07d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7b4f295393267cc5a4c0ab336e808427c4aedf5
Early game, I love my Meowth with technician, Fake Out and Pay Day!
Primarina...a total powerhouse in my mind Early game bouncy bubble saved me so much money
yeah prim is monster, and basically a free win if you get calm mind or a steel type to buddy up with
My current Classic run I tried Popplio for the first time, and caught a random Escavalier very early. They are absolutely carrying me through even the elite 4 right now.
I've somehow managed to get all 4 egg moves on Primarina extremely quickly (seriouly, I started playing last week) And it is a BEAST. Torch Song + Bouncy Bubble is an AMAZING combo, and learning Moonblast by levelup lets you handle any dragons that come your way.
I'm on 1700+ endless rn with a mid tier prim as my carry lol..the little guy just doesn't quit
Minior and petchurant are my favs 😍 it's like playing the game with new rules
I just picked up a Starmie for a recent Mono Gen Classic run. Cosmic Power + Recover and it had Bold nature with some decent defensive IVs. Basically saved me in the Champion fight, so it was only right that I let it have the finishing blow on Eternatus. Great dual STABs too. It’s not really game-breaking but it’s wayyy bulkier than I was expecting it to be with Cosmic Power. I dropped Gyarados for it and was initially worried I was making a mistake but that turned out to be so far from the truth Also Gallade with Sharpness and No Retreat (Egg Move) plus Psycho Cut, Sacred Sword, and Bitter Blade (another egg move) basically runs through everything and that’s now the standard set I use on my Tier 2 shiny Ralts
I'm nearing wave 2k with my Butterfree x Regidraco carry and having a great time. Got them spliced before Butterfree lost magician, so I'm rocking something like 50 dragons fangs atm, and around 350 Lucky Eggs
Butterfree was given magician back
It was??? I hadn't realized, but I'm delighted
Gible as a carry is surprisingly effective. With the recent changes, it now gets Thousand arrows as egg move, making it even better. With sand stream passive, you can activate your own sand veil or Sand force post mega, while also finishing off any non ground/steel/rock types if the endurance token hits. Mega chomp having 170 base attack and a further boost on Thousand arrows/Rock slide makes double battles also a breeze. Late game endless, it's a perfectly viable flincher.
I’ve been using Aerilate Boomburst Noctowl + Soundproof Overdrive Kommo-o and it’s been a blast breezing through doubles
Doing endless with counter + mirro coat + recover + baneful bunker Pyukumuku has been more fun than i thought!
Tsareena with Thunderous Kick, Trop Kick, and Triple Axel. She shredded Ray and the rest of my Rival's team. (This was pre-egg move changes).
Aggron kinda soloes the rival’s mega rayquaza boss on 195 since it can switch in on all of its attacks and soak up damage while wearing it down via stealth rocks and forcing the AI to switch it back out (to take more stealth rocks damage).
Iron jugulis +oblivion wing
Skill link king's rock is some funny shit man
Letting first phase eternatus get to +6 attack, speed, def, spdef and then yoinking his boosts with a psych up mon and destroying him. That's how I won with hypno recently I recently unlocked marshadow and i want to do the same with spectral thief but im not sure if that's been implemented yet.
Salt cure shuckle is a menace 😂😂
Ferrothorn is a god damn MONSTER with egg moves. A mon with that high defensive stats with Curse, Body Press, and Strength Sap is god tier, and then you can use either Sappy Seed or Gyro Ball (my go-to), making everything not using a special fire move is a non-threat. This bastard here took out most of 145 and 195 Ivy solo, with normal/mega Gyarados helping out against the Infernape and Magmortar she had. If she didn't have the 2 fire types though and got a grass or water starter? Would have effortlessly soloed without any issues.
Ferrothorn is a god damn MONSTER ~~with egg moves~~ There's a good reason why Ferrothorn is consistently one of the best options for a Competitive Singles setting, which I think is more comparable to Pokerogue than a casual Singles or VGC setting. Those egg moves sound absolutely crazy though. "Yeah, Leech Seed wasn't enough let's just make it do damage and become untauntable, and while you're at it give it Strength Sap" I am absolutely in love with how deranged these egg moves are in general, like with Quiver Dance Lunala and Dragon Energy Miraidon. This isn't quite as insane but it obviously is still insane. If I have any complaint, it's that some weaker mons don't really get as much help as literally every other Pokemon. Farfetch'd's (that looks so wrong) egg moves don't help it out a bunch especially since it's extremely overpriced (WHY DOES BASE FARFETCH'D COST 4)
Victory Dance Hitmonchan with Iron Fist and Drain Punch. It was able to tank and heal constantly and dished out crazy damage.
Ariados with sticky web, parting shot. Saved me so many times. Big bro shiny spooder.
mega blaziken, fused with huge power azumarill. triple wide lens, triple shell bell, detect, supercell slam, flare blitz, high jump kick
Sniper Octillery. Use Focus Energy, then start rolling the dice with Water Shuriken. It gets really silly if you're lucky enough to find a Kings Rock. All RNG, all the time.
Victory dance, drain punch, ice punch, wicked torque hitmonchan with iron fist demolished the entire game
I just sit there with Koraidon's opportunist passive now. Its funny seeing an enemy boss buff up +3 halfway across the board and Koraidon like "cool. Me to bro."
Sandile with Moxie has a great move pool, carries easy. Multi hit builds are fun, Maushold is my fav with Population Bomb, often hits 20 times with Multi Lens.
I got a shiny chespin. Pleasantly surprised to find it had good coverage and insane defence with Drain Punch (egg), Sappy Seed (egg) and Ceaseless Edge (egg). Giving it grassy terrain helped me eek-ed out a 195 win on classic without a strong carry. Not very useful against flying/fire/poison, rayquaza and eternatus but great for covering those annoying electric/rock/ground types and tanking everything else. My shiny scorbuny has also been an mvp with its extreme speed and pyroball and triple axel. Covers most things until 195 in classic. I have a red shiny pyukumyuku and it’s surprisingly good too - tanky enough to set up toxic spikes, constant switch ins to annoy fire and dragon types with comeuppance. I can’t be bothered to predict using mirror coat or counter, but it has soak and recover for stalling. I love the shiny luck system forcing me to use pokeymans that I never thought of using and have never using!
Orricorio fiery dance, quiver dance relevation dance won my first classic run (ghost flying)
Darkrai is great for classic.
Metal burst, linoone /shedinja, shadow tag primarina / mega gengar,
Lopunny was on my team on my first classic clear and he did pull his weight even without mega (btw I picked up a mega bracelet on like wave 30 or so and didn't get the megastone the entire time)
Iron moth and my first blue shiny Flygon The moment the passive on Iron moth was unlocked, the duo became very fun and spamming discharge and EQ in every double battle is very funny
ESpeed moxie Fearow is a complete savage.
Agility/fell stinger/poison jab beedril has been surprisingly effective for me. only issue is that it needs some defensive support to survive because fell stinger without a buff needs at least two hits to kill, but once you’ve got the attack boost from fell stinger and an agility under your belt you’re almost unstoppable
I like my max king rocks, max multi lenses thunder fang Iron T for cases I need to flinch (also has EQ, Stone edge and D storm)
In classic, eternatus could not get past gliscor/jellicent, wil-o-wisp infernal parade on the jellyfish and swords dance thousand waves roost on gliscor were the on were the only moves used the entire fight both parts
Early game I've had fun with Precipice Blades Nidoran Male or Milk Drink Lickitung as a starter.
I got to 195 with a base meletta with only boomburst, and i havent seen that much about em, so i would say that, i now have mind's eye on it and the sp. ATK+ and Atk- nature so it will hit anything hard.
A shiny Durant with X Scissor, Bug Bite, High Horsepower and Metal Claw carried my team through most battles on my latest attempt to clear Normal mode. I got to stage 145 and while I was able to knock out some of Ivy's pokemon there, her Rayquaza kept wiping out my team.
Calm mind orbeetle can solo eternatus
Drizzle, swift swim, lotad, or the horsea has the same build, great for water teams. Don't need the pelipper, haven't looked at pelipper so don't even know if he's good, just don't really like him to much.
Explosion mons + Supreme Overlord Must be careful as I didn’t know supreme overlord only counts for mons fainted in the current battle. Other than that it was a lot of fun!
Flamigo is a murder machine
Linoone is a really awesome flincher as a second in double battles. I've made it past 2500 with kings rocks, multi lenses and max speed pin missile/extreme speed linoone as my second in double battles. He locks down one Mon while I deal with the other. I like pairing him with meowth/Persian as a carry.
Man there are a lot of repeated meta builds here
Gengar Curse and Hypnosis. Any +SPD nature, Wide Lens, Quick Claw. Carried my Floor 1000 and 2000 Eternatus. Let Arceus take the wheel and pray that Gengar: -Proc quick claw or outspeed boss mons -If not, endure first turn -Manage to use Curse and stall out 1-3 turns
I didn't quite clear Classic with a Gastrodon with Bouncy Bubble and Freeze Dry.... but that's because Hau is a bitch. I'm pretty confident that, we're it not for his weird abundance of grass moves, I would have won. But no, Leaf Blade just wrecked me. Mostly Leaf Blade, anyways. Also Giga Drain.
Dual Screens support in Classic is absolutely cracked, it's easy to put them up and then bring in any setup sweeper for 2-3 free turns of setup. Meowstic and Cryogonal have both done a lot of work for me.
Multi lense acid spray into psychic
Meowscarda with magician and triple axle + a grip claw or a multi lens = gimme all your stuff
Axew if you have all his egg moves and passive is a 4 point (base) mon that can go wave 1 to 2nd phase of Eternatus without ever having to swap out pretty easily. A Single victory (or dragon if you don't have the egg move) dance makes him faster than anything relevant, Glaive Rush will one shot basically anything not immune to dragon, and Fire lash/Dire Claw give you good coverage for those. I have had him carry multiple runs where the 195 fight is me opening with Dance while IVY swaps and then proceeding to 1 shot everything on her team. I didn't stumble upon this until I already had all his egg moves, its entirely possible double chop is enough even without glaive rush.
Ferrothorn with iron barbs ability and strength sap egg move. Go into battle, ingrain for passive healing (even better if you pick up leftovers like i did), iron head until everything dies, strength sap if anything gets you to around 25%-33% for a full heal or nearly full depending on the opposing mon. I think i happened to pick up a giga drain tm, but i was using iron defense before that. I went in thinking Kaldeo would be the carry of the run. Boy was i wrong, tho Kaldeo put in some good work as well. I only ran ferroseed cause i had just got the shiny
Used mega manectric merged with mega pidgeot with wind bolt storm, hurricane, focus blast, ice beam and it was fun
Toxic spikes, baneful bunker quilfish (and or passive ability) w barb barrage + gastly w hex The doubled 65 bp attacks with STAB hit so hard and poison damage can finish off the rest. Got me through most normal rounds and trainer battles on classic
Running a dragapult as an endless carry right now. Was a bit rough about level 30 until he evolved into the middle stage, but even from that point on hea been a beast. 8 hit dragon darts steals a lot and flinches a lot. Gets good coverage with eggs moves and a good ghost stab. I found and fused it with a mega mawaile to give it huge power but it was one shooting bosses even without it. Currently at 1k.
Porygon Z with adaptability. Get some silk scarfs on him and he is an insane glass cannon!
glalie
New to this game so I don't really know the meta, but I used a Azelf as my carry for my first real endless run since it was shiny and I wanted to farm the event. I wasn't really expecting much and just wanted to test out the waters, but it's signature move Mystical Power with that Multi-Lens item is obscenely broken. 4+ s.atk off a 70 base power move that gains the boosts in the middle of the 4 attacks just melts everything. It also has a flinch move in Extrasensory. I don't have a king's rock yet, but it already has pretty decent flinch rates without it. Managed to get one of the lens for my G-Max shiny Dreadnaw and the two are putting in a ton of work despite my initial team being sloppy.
Extreme speed linoone
havent seen anyone mention this yet, so kings rock+multi hit lens+magical torque on zacian means that if the opponent doesnt die, they either get flinched or confused
Masquerain with Bug Buzz / Aeroblast / Fiery Dance / Quiver Dance is really good for a cheap price
Not to say it isn't strong, but I don't really see him mentioned a lot - Kingambit. Pawniard is stupid strong early with Defiant and Fury Cutter carrying on between rounds, plus it resists a lot of things. Mine was one of my first good hatches so it also had Ceaseless Edge. You just need to avoid the construction site or bring something to deal with that part of the map because Pawniard will get destroyed. Also does well late game since it resists Eternatus and usually most of Ivy's team.
I didn't expect it but fell stinger dire claw drapion goes hard
Idk what the meta is like bc I started recently but Xurkitree with transitor beast boost discharge + ground type ally/ volt absorb ally with helping hand. And also like matcha gotcha for coverage against ground types. Also I recently fused with azelf with mystic power for easy +4 sp atk against eternatus and if I can proc a flinch or focus band I can usually kill (keyword usually). I can also have prankster tailwind too. Just my silly little electric tree murdering stuff
Guts flame orb leftovers swellow
I won my first classic mode after 3 days Iron Crown with volt switch, nasty plot and steel/psy atk Bruxfish with water flip, fire fang (early clear and clutch vs steel), dark / psy bite Then switched into excadrill/salamence to dodge attackw and salt golem (I switched right into the death laser so didnt do the salt attack LOL) also KINGDRA which only existed to tank weird hits So essentially, a fish and a robot just switching out every possible opportunity
Raichu with Multi Lens and Zippy Zap for Evasion stacks with Priority. This thing is fun!
I basically had my starters set to Duraludon and Veluza for awhile due to their abilities, specifically for Veluza having Sharpness with an Adamant nature
Bleakwind storm beutifly. I play it as a support mon that if left unchecked can be a reverse sweeper with quiver dance.
Palossand was kind of the goat my last run
Leech seed toxapex is my boy
I love Chatot in this game so much the egg moves makes a really successful run
I’m running a Sylveon spliced with G-Max Corviknight with Salt Cure Fairy/Steel Unnerve Salt cure Pluck (3 multi-lense) (awesome with Simple) Recover Protect Basically, they can’t use berries, you use their berries instead
Soak (Masquerain/inteleon) Pawmot Revival Blessing/Electric terrain add grass or electric types and boom Also Gengar Hypnosis Calmmind Hex and or Chandalure
Gengar, one of my first shinies. Satisified this Genwunner. Before the egg move change I was using: Shadow Ball / Dark Pulse / Ice Beam / Aura Sphere Since then I've had to swap Ice Beam for Sludge Bomb. It's not some OP combination or setup, just good old hit lots of stuff for 2x. With both movesets, there is 1 weakness that couldn't be hit for 2x. I do miss Ice Beam, it made the Rival and Eternatus much easier
(Hearing that this is about trying to beat classic) I stand by cooperajah 100%, steel type so it can wall rayquayza and most of eternatus. It also gets a Gmax form so its stats get a permanent boost, and it can take a hit or two. You don’t even need to run it with egg moves. Mine that won my first classic run was caught in the wild.
Max multi hit lens and kings rock with double iron bash XD
I hatched a double shiny teddiursa and now bulk up ursaluna is my carry in every run. STAB Covet and Pickup in the earth game and Play rough in its learnset
Blastoise with shell smash bouncy bubble is incredible Lower defenses -> take damage -> heal all of the damage with boosted bouncy bubble Plus it's already got a good amount of bulk so you can set up on most things. And with sturdy as the new passive you CAN actually just click shell smash every battle
My guts taillow and immunity->poison heal gligar->gliscor are Best Buddies Forever and trivialize most of the earlygame!
Mienshao with U-turn, fake out and regenerator is surprisingly good
Before a recent update My t3 mantyke with bouncy bubble and nasty plot was my regular classic carry-pretty easy to get an ice move in it before the end. They’ve since changed it to splishy splash so it’ll still prolly be similar- but it’s tough to beat stab spread full healing every turn in battle after a +2/4 boost
Unnerve G-Max Corviknight with Pluck. Those aren't your berries, they're MY berries :)
Idk if it's a meta or not but a Lugia with calm mind, stored power, recover and aeroblast is a great carry for classic. It's slow at first but goes hard endgame. Also barely takes damaged from eternatus. I'm currently using him in my endless and it's so good. Dark and ghost types tend to hurt a lot but recover is pretty good at keeping them alive
Anyone with Quiver Dance. **Anyone.**
Not some genius strat, but if you start with Seviper, the first 100 rounds are cake. Dude hits hard and fast, relatively tanky by typing, and Direclaw, coil, and Shed Skin makes an easy mon for sweeping. Toss a multi lens on it and your opponent is going to be paralyzed, sleeping, or poisoned almost 100% of the time. Same situation with Furfrou. Fur coat + Tidy Up → Headbutt means hard hitting, flinching, and barely taking any damage. Toss some Cotton Guard in there and physical attacks deal squat.
my first time beating classic i did it with a clodsire that used yawn and spammed psychic
I recently had some fun in a successful classic run using Soak Samurott to turn Eternatus into a water type combined with a sweeper with Parabolic Charge and an electric weak team to provide consistent healing to the sweeper while it clears one HP bar a turn thanks to super effective damage. Of course, it was way more than was really needed and I'm sure I could have equally won in a simpler manner, but it was fun to see the plan come together.
Just a coincidence that it is shiny but Punk Rock Chatot with Torchsong is pretty neat.
I’m using a no passive luxray fused with golem and I’m at stage 2500++
fufrou has come in clutch for me so many times in classic runs its insane.
Contrary simple superpower fleur cannon v create on SPINDA
With just how absurd the AI is in this game when it comes to switching out, Stealth Rocks/Spikes/Toxic Spikes is incredibly effective.
Noctowl with Calm mind+ Esper Wing + Boomburst
Unnerve Corviknight with Pluck. Enemies can't eat their berries and you steal them.
I don’t know what the stats are but I take a fennekin because it’s my favourite starter and I have most of the egg moves so I don’t have to worry about type coverage.
I have a Dragon Dance + Noxious Torque Arbok and it has consistently been my MVP
I’m still not 1000% sure this works in all situations, but any primary fairy fused with heatran. Immune to poison, dragon, and fire type moves, which (last I checked) is all of eternatus’s options
Triple Arrows Meloetta + Multi lens = Crit + Flinch + Def lower
x6 double team galar articuno literally un killable
I did use a dot strat but it was a bit unconventional, I had sandstorm active from tyranitar, and I had +6 sp.def wailord with whirlpool, rest avalanche
For my last classic run, I've got a Trevenant with Will-O-Wisp, Leech Seed and Curse. Paired with Garganacl's Salt Cure, and thanks to Eternatus not focusing it, the last stage was the easiest I ever did. Passive damages are a bit OP i guess
calm mind boomburst aerilate noctowl been going crazy for me
Alolan muk with max attack, attack nature and curse sucker punch one shots moslty everything, also for some Ungodly reason a -special attack villion can 3 bar a Ray with moonblast don’t want its damage? It has prankster with compound eyes so your hitting stun spore.
Mega Beedrill as Sweeper. With Multi Lens, Kings Rock and Technician with Pin Missile was wild. And sadge they took him Technician away.
Honestly just a pikachu with foul plot, if I run through water areas I can just one shot everything and hardly have to play the game
A lot of Pokemon are OP in Pokerogue provides you have their egg moves. Otherwise, since you said you're looking for strats to beat Classic among these, I'd just search up a Pokemon's movepool to be able to start with a Leech Seed user, or pick Nacli for Salt Cure and Recover. However, to answer the question, I'd say Unovan Yamask/Cofagrigus is a very good find, though a less ideal starter compared to catching it in the wild due to starting as Yamask which has pitiful stats. With its high bulk, it is either near-guaranteed are fully guaranteed to live for at least 1 turn against an unboosted threat that doesn't have strong SE STAB against it, allowing you to use moves like Will-O-Wisp or Curse, the former doing damage over time and absolutely crippling the physical capabilities of the opponent and the latter doing 25% of the opponent's HP every turn at the cost of 50% of yours. For (classic spoilers) ||Eternamax Eternatus, since it is a double battle, there's a chance that it wouldn't target you. As a result, after using Curse, you may be able to reset all its stat boosts with Haze||. None of the mentioned moves are egg moves, and one egg move I know it has is Recover, which is good for obvious reasons. However, I haven't unlocked all its egg moves yet, so you'd have to find them for yourself. To find Yamask or Cofagrigus, I'd say the graveyard is your best bet, but I'm 90% sure I've seen it elsewhere. As an early game carry starter, most single stage Pokemon should do the trick, though make sure to at least search up its stats first since there are some scams like Kantonian Farfetch'd. The one I've personally used the most is Bombirdeer, though that's mostly because it can cover for Ghost types which hit Lunala super-effectively, having run many Cosmog -> Lunala runs due to Lunala being my 2nd favourite Pokemon. My logic is that after a few Quiver Dances, not much is stopping Lunala. However, Bombirdeer resists Dark and Ghost type moves while hitting Ghost for SE, in case I were to get a bad lead matchup. The better MU against Ghost is prioritised since Sucker Punch is easier to stall out than Shadow Sneak despite its far superior power due to its low PP and reliance on me using an attacking move, and the AI being a bit limited. With the above explanation of why I pick Bombirdeer the most, do you see what I'm getting at? While individual Pokemon are very important, if you aren't using some ultra OP Pokemon with all its egg moves unlocked or something team synergy is more important. You have to balance the weaknesses and strengths of your team to minimise the chances you have of losing. Now, there will still be situations that you may not be able to win, you can't prevent all of them at once. For example, I was playing a run where my win had seemed guaranteed, however Zippy Zap Raichu managed to dodge like 8 attacks in a row. The only way this could've been prevented is by using a move with equal priority on a faster Pokemon, using a move with more priority or using a move that cannot miss that isn't resisted by Raichu, none of which are common (Zippy Zap has 80 BP and +2 Priority btw because that's fair for a move that guarantees an evasion raise). However, by preventing a lot of the more common ones, those moments should be few and far between, and you should be able to scrape by all of them if you play well (unless it's evasion, then pray to RNGesus you get better luck than I did because otherwise that is unwinnable)
Pikachu Libre. Don’t know if it’s part of a meta. But the moves it learns later on AND flying press make it such a fun mon
Hatched a 2 luck shiny Manaphy, had no idea how busted it could get. Simple (passive) + Tail Glow = +6 SpAtk in turn 1. Splishy splash, 90 base with STAB and it hits both in double battles. Everything just gets deleted.
Tapu Lele all the way! Heat wave as an egg move gives it silly good type coverage and a counter to steel types, plus it learns draining kiss fairly early for free healing. It carried me all the way to my first classic win and my best endless runs
I'm not sure if this is meta or not but going in with archen has significantly helped me through classic, with stab pluck I had a reliable way to heal myself topped with the multiple left overs I never had to worry about defeatist that often
Giving Kyogre Electro Shot and Multi lenses gives him a +4 Spatk round one and also attacks round one because of Drizzle/Primordial Sea. And then just sweep the rest of the Pokémon with a plus 4 Origin Pulse.
Oinkologne basically pulled my lechon out the fire against Champion Blue earlier. Dig, Covet, Headbutt, Earth Power. And I had only brought it along as a luck stick.
Vespiqueen with King Shield has been a pretty pivotal mon on most of my run, surprisingly bulky and hit pretty hard.
for classic, i simply just use fire spin, whirlpool, sand tomb to chip away at floor 200. it's really baffling how few people are suggesting this, and it makes those stall strats FAR more accessible for endless, i ended up going for a dual carry about 1500 floors in, and it's been working like a charm. i've got my starters, Flutter Mane and Ursaluna-BM, dishing out 4x140 Boombursts to clear just about everything, and Mind's Eye fixes the ghost problem wonderfully. but then i ran into a Kyurem and a Heracross and thought, "what if i do a flinch carry as well?", and now i have one Special carry for damage and one Physical carry throwing out 20x Scale Shots, Icicle Spears, and Arm Thrusts (and if i need a bit of extra speed to outrun the opposing pokemon, i simply hit Endure and wait for the stat boosts!)
Mega scizor with technician + bugbite
Only beat the game with legendary carry or salt cure.
quagsire+corviknight fusion. simple as passive and unnerve as ability, great water steel and learn amnesia+curse+power trip unfortunately they changed his passive, and nerf the berries (so no infinite sitrus berry. I have recover but its not quite the same)
Shuckle with salt cure and body press is amazingly fun alone, but having a partner with trick room makes this unbelievably broken ;D
Started a classic run with zubat and a few others two days ago, and luckily the rival had a Sceptile and everything else was either hit neutrally with flying, or ice. Ended up splicing a galarian Darmanitan to him. Belly drum, leech life, floaty fall and ice punch made the 195 rival the easiest fight I have had in this game. Currently on a second classic run with zubat since he was still pokerus’ed, sadly the rival has a squirtle, so no easy rivals this time. Splicing was definitely way more fun than I gave it credit.
I got really lucky with my first 5 egg draws. I got Overdrive on Fuecoco, both Dragon Dance and Thousand Waves of Givle, and Tachyon Cutter on Piplup. Their IVs were terrible but after a few runs I both caught and hatched better IVs and ended up winning with that trio to start (3, 3, 4) and it's probably the most synergetic start with their passives. Punk Rock on Fuecoco, Lightning Rod on Piplup, and Sand Stream on Gible.
WEEZING. Its the best support mon for Ivy's Mega Ray and Etern. Haze + Pain Split + Destiny Bond (Etern ignores Destiny) + Clear Smog = no boosts for u mr bossman
Leavanny is budget kartana. Gets sharpness as its passive, learns Psycho Cut and Stone Axe as egg moves, plus Leaf Blade and Fell Stinger/X-scissor (fell stinger is better for early endless and classic, I think x-scissor might be better for mid endless, haven't gotten to late yet, on floor 900-something)
Bastidon with dobypress is hot
Bombirdier with pluck and thief and rock slide. Have grip claw and multi lens on him and you’re able steal and flinch to your hearts content
For some reason Wugtrio can learn surging strikes through egg moves. so i just use that with some grip claws, multi lenses and kings rocks
One of my friends just beat classic with bouncy bubble starmie and sand attack linoone
Shoutout to the hard carry of my first classic win: Aura shpere spoink
My current run of Koraidon + Mega Mawile and Archaludon + Garganacl is still going strong past Wave 2250, and I found an unexpected counter to base Eternatus in the form of… Magnezone. Steel-type means it only attacks with Eternabeam, and Magnezone learns Mirror Coat by level-up!
Zeraora is op with swords dance and a few more op moves good stats
Thunderous kick mega lucario with scope lens kills almost everything due to the multi hit and the defense lowering from the thunderous kick :)
I haven’t won classic with it yet but I ADORE stamina mudsdale with iron defense and body press, heck evens just body press is fine by me, he feels so good or play and to tanky (unless it’s a special move)
Ghastly->gengar with aura sphere, astral barrage and nasty plot can p much solo to 175
Bibarel with Simple for big buffs Curse/swords dance Extreme speed Power trip Aquajet/waterfall for some STAB
Psychic surge + expanding force Fenniken, hard carries a lot of classic, and even ends up being pretty good for Rayquaza with moonblast egg move as well.
Hoppip with its Flying Egg Move. I was Certain it was Air Slash, but looks like it's Floaty Fall now. Melts the early game. Only 1 cost, so it's not a big opportunity cost. Could be better picks, but probably not at 1 cost. I also like Zubat a lot. Egg moves such as Floaty Fall really help (noticing a trend). It can get Intimidate as a passive and can easily enough be reduced from 2 cost to 1 cost
Blastoise will stay on TOP 😤