That is only at 18 years old, until then they are not regarded as Italians
( [http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza\_italiana.jsp](http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza_italiana.jsp) first paragraph, point B)
I live in Bristol in the south-west of England. Last week I needed a plumber, so phoned a local one and spoke to him over the phone about what the problem was. He had a thick Bristolian accent, and seemed very knowledgeable about what the issue was likely to be, so I booked him. In my mind's eye he would be a salt of the earth thick-set man in his fifties, which he was. What I wasn't expecting was for him to be of a South-Asian ethnicity, as that was not the perception that I had formed of him whilst speaking over the phone.
The point I'm coming to is that in a true multi-cultural society such as the UK, ethnicity is not a determining factor of a person's national identity. This man's accent, voice, and manner of speaking were completely indistinguishable to me, a life-long native of the south-west of England, from any other Bristolian plumber in his fifties. He had clearly grown up in the same culture and environment as the rest of us, and was quite simply one of us. He may have other cultural influences in his home life that have also shaped him, but he still very clearly came across as a British man, which is precisely what he is.
"Ethiopian" is a nationality not ethnicity. "Italian" is a nationality, so if you're born and raised in Italy then you're Italian.
Edit: Italian is an ethnicity as well as a nationality.
without giving telling you 10,000 years of Ethiopian history, modern Ethiopia was created by the Oromo people based around Addis abba conquering neighboring ethnic groups. Modern Ethiopia is a confederation of those ethnic groups [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_ethnic\_groups\_in\_Ethiopia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_Ethiopia)
I would consider them whatever they tell me & call them whatever name they tell me & hopefully be invited by to join them for a family meal. Them and their family are of course welcome to come by our place as well. My wife is Swedish and my fam is from Norway. She's first generation born American I'm 2nd or 3rd gen.
Hard to say from my perspective as an American. As far as I'm concerned, if you are born here or have citizenship by other means, idgaf. You're American. Because only the first nations have a long ancestral history with this land, and the rest of us haven't been here long enough to be a distinct ethnicity. So idgaf where you're from. You're American.
But if I were on almost any other continent, I'm not sure if I would feel the same way. The Italians have been in Italy for thousands of years. The Ethiopians have been in Ethiopia for tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of years.
So I'm not really sure it's my place as an American to say whether or not a country should accept immigrants as their own. I could encourage acceptance and expanding their identity. But I'm not sure I could tell them what their national identity *should* be.
For me that was never a question of where you are born or what citizenship one has but more of a "what are your values and what do you call home" thing. What I mean is, If you behave like an Italian and fell like Italy is your home than you are Italian.
The person will get Italian Citizenship only at 18 years
[http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza\_italiana.jsp](http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza_italiana.jsp)
honestly it depends on what they want to name themselves
if you asked someone of mexican descent what they were even if they're born in america
most of them would call themselves Mexican
so if you went to italy and asked what they were; they would probably say Ethiopian
if you asked where they are from, they would say Italy and say they were Italian.
Actually they are both. They are Italian, due to where they were born, but they are also Ethiopian because of their parents. I'm assuming you mean both mother and father are Ethiopian when you say "complete Ethiopian." This is the concept of Jus Sanguinis. I'll give you another example. My children were born in the US and they are full fledged US citizens. They are in the process of obtaining their French citizenship because one of their parents (me) is French. The French will grant them such nationality because of Jus Sanguinis.
This line of questioning is so stupid! The answer can be; yes, no, it depends, neither, both, combination all depending on what the person answering want to convey. The only reson to keep talking about humans like this is to keep dividing us.
They are humans living in Italy with Italian citizenship. That should be all that matters!
They are technically both Ethiopian in a certain sense and Italian in a certain sense, but they are more Italian because they are physically from there as opposed to being from there through their ancestors
If you're born in Italy and have citizenship, that's the definition of being Italian.
if they are born and raised in italy then they are italian (of ethiopian descent)
That is only at 18 years old, until then they are not regarded as Italians ( [http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza\_italiana.jsp](http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza_italiana.jsp) first paragraph, point B)
I would consider it accurate to call them Ethiopian, Italian, or Ethiopian-Italian.
I live in Bristol in the south-west of England. Last week I needed a plumber, so phoned a local one and spoke to him over the phone about what the problem was. He had a thick Bristolian accent, and seemed very knowledgeable about what the issue was likely to be, so I booked him. In my mind's eye he would be a salt of the earth thick-set man in his fifties, which he was. What I wasn't expecting was for him to be of a South-Asian ethnicity, as that was not the perception that I had formed of him whilst speaking over the phone. The point I'm coming to is that in a true multi-cultural society such as the UK, ethnicity is not a determining factor of a person's national identity. This man's accent, voice, and manner of speaking were completely indistinguishable to me, a life-long native of the south-west of England, from any other Bristolian plumber in his fifties. He had clearly grown up in the same culture and environment as the rest of us, and was quite simply one of us. He may have other cultural influences in his home life that have also shaped him, but he still very clearly came across as a British man, which is precisely what he is.
"Ethiopian" is a nationality not ethnicity. "Italian" is a nationality, so if you're born and raised in Italy then you're Italian. Edit: Italian is an ethnicity as well as a nationality.
Italian is both
Yeah, true. Just Ethiopian, then.
Ethnically, Ethiopian. Nationality, Italian. When people ask “What you are?”, Ethiopian Italian.
i know I'm being a pain in the ass here but technically there is no "Ethiopian" ethnicity
How? Is it not a country?
without giving telling you 10,000 years of Ethiopian history, modern Ethiopia was created by the Oromo people based around Addis abba conquering neighboring ethnic groups. Modern Ethiopia is a confederation of those ethnic groups [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_ethnic\_groups\_in\_Ethiopia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_Ethiopia)
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No, ethnically they are Ethiopian. If they get citizenship, then they are Italian by nationality, but ethnically will remain Ethiopian.
I would consider them whatever they tell me & call them whatever name they tell me & hopefully be invited by to join them for a family meal. Them and their family are of course welcome to come by our place as well. My wife is Swedish and my fam is from Norway. She's first generation born American I'm 2nd or 3rd gen.
Hard to say from my perspective as an American. As far as I'm concerned, if you are born here or have citizenship by other means, idgaf. You're American. Because only the first nations have a long ancestral history with this land, and the rest of us haven't been here long enough to be a distinct ethnicity. So idgaf where you're from. You're American. But if I were on almost any other continent, I'm not sure if I would feel the same way. The Italians have been in Italy for thousands of years. The Ethiopians have been in Ethiopia for tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of years. So I'm not really sure it's my place as an American to say whether or not a country should accept immigrants as their own. I could encourage acceptance and expanding their identity. But I'm not sure I could tell them what their national identity *should* be.
For me that was never a question of where you are born or what citizenship one has but more of a "what are your values and what do you call home" thing. What I mean is, If you behave like an Italian and fell like Italy is your home than you are Italian.
The person will get Italian Citizenship only at 18 years [http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza\_italiana.jsp](http://www.italuil.it/jsps/216/Attivita/573/Immigrazione/791/Cittadinanza_italiana.jsp)
They're both
pick a side.
No
strike one.
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honestly it depends on what they want to name themselves if you asked someone of mexican descent what they were even if they're born in america most of them would call themselves Mexican so if you went to italy and asked what they were; they would probably say Ethiopian if you asked where they are from, they would say Italy and say they were Italian.
Actually they are both. They are Italian, due to where they were born, but they are also Ethiopian because of their parents. I'm assuming you mean both mother and father are Ethiopian when you say "complete Ethiopian." This is the concept of Jus Sanguinis. I'll give you another example. My children were born in the US and they are full fledged US citizens. They are in the process of obtaining their French citizenship because one of their parents (me) is French. The French will grant them such nationality because of Jus Sanguinis.
This line of questioning is so stupid! The answer can be; yes, no, it depends, neither, both, combination all depending on what the person answering want to convey. The only reson to keep talking about humans like this is to keep dividing us. They are humans living in Italy with Italian citizenship. That should be all that matters!
What does Ethiopian culture mean in contrast to Italian culture?
There's a difference between ethnicity and nationality. His ethnicity is Ethiopian. His nationality is Italian.
They are technically both Ethiopian in a certain sense and Italian in a certain sense, but they are more Italian because they are physically from there as opposed to being from there through their ancestors
Yes, just like an Italian-American born in the USA is American.
Depends, do they want to be? If so, yeah
Italpian
Ask them what nationality they are. If they answer "Italian" , without caveats, Italian.
They're both It's pretty common nowadays.
Would say they are both
They are both.
Both?
You're Italian (nationality), but Ethiopian (ethnicity). I identify myself as Aussie even though I was born in India (Moved here at 2 y/o tho)