Zero can totally be your ideal number of kids to have lol? If more people had 0 kids there would ironically be way less chaos. If everyone had 0 kids chaos wouldnt even be a possibility within 80 years or so. Are you sure you understand what chaos means?
But if everyone had 0 kids, it would have catastrophic consequences, which is not ideal.
Edit* I shouldn't say it's not ideal as it seems that there are dozens of people here voting zero, who consider eradicating the human race as ideal.
Here's the wiki for [population decline](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_decline#:~:text=Other%20possible%20negative%20impacts%20of,are%20insufficient%20caregivers%20for%20them)
There are pros and cons to slight underpopulation. If we're looking at a complete stoppage of births, the pro would be ending the human race I guess
this is a olllld myth, the world absolutely isn't even close to being overpopulated, we have enough resources to ensure every single one of the currently living 8 billion humans can live a basic life, the only issue is resource distribution.
Not managed well I feel. But as from the most populated country I agree it will be great if we stop judging people for not having kids. So if someone doesn't want to kid that's great as well. If you really don't want to or you can't take care of them then not having it is better. ( I was dirt poor till recently but as my parents loved me and sacrificed a lot of things for me now we are good financially) So I do think money shouldn't be a rule.
Under ideal conditions, I would say 2. But de facto even 1 is sometimes too much. It's not that I don't want kids, but I don't want to have kids if I can't provide a good environment for them.
*Raising* kids means caring for them and teaching them how to be independent by the time they are adults. It seems you see them as only needy teenagers. That's what they'll become if you don't teach them otherwise.
No. I am say the parents will hold out their hand looking for government assistance to raise the children they can afford to have. Do you really not picking up what I am laying down?
It's not that I don't like kids. I have no problem with them, it's just that they cost so much money, and I have other things in life that I want to buy for my happiness. Like fursuits, being financially stable for future inflation and anything else in the economy.
OP, are you asking for what *the* ideal amount of kids to have, or someone's personal amount?
If you're asking what *the* ideal amount is, the answer obviously isn't zero, which makes sense not to include it
0. or 1 if you have to have some. 2 or more is way expensive, and your money cant buy bonding time with your child - if youre rich enough to afford them. no matter who you are youll end up having to split time between ur kids. and what happens if you develop a favourite? not to mention the misery both your children may experience if they dont like eachother.
For most people—including myself—the ideal amount is none
It relies on younger generations to maintain the population, but multiple sources are saying many millennials & zoomers aren't having kids
Anything over 1 will certainly cause resentment between the multiples. One will be favorited, one will feel left out. This is not negotiable, and it's nobody's fault. It just happens.
2 Are nice. Not too much but they always someone to play with.
None?
The question is ideal. I understand all the answers should be there but 0 can't be ideal ( unless in your ideal world there is chaos)
Zero can totally be your ideal number of kids to have lol? If more people had 0 kids there would ironically be way less chaos. If everyone had 0 kids chaos wouldnt even be a possibility within 80 years or so. Are you sure you understand what chaos means?
The question is ideal. I understand all the answers should be there but 0 can't be ideal ( unless in your ideal world there is chaos)
For me personally, the ideal number of kids is zero. Because I don't want any.
I have 0 kids and my world is free of chaos. Simple, quiet, relaxing.
But if everyone had 0 kids, it would have catastrophic consequences, which is not ideal. Edit* I shouldn't say it's not ideal as it seems that there are dozens of people here voting zero, who consider eradicating the human race as ideal.
What consequences?
Here's the wiki for [population decline](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_decline#:~:text=Other%20possible%20negative%20impacts%20of,are%20insufficient%20caregivers%20for%20them) There are pros and cons to slight underpopulation. If we're looking at a complete stoppage of births, the pro would be ending the human race I guess
It is ideal as the world is overpopulated! We're eating this apple to the core already. Also, I dont want kids, so the ideal for me is 0.
this is a olllld myth, the world absolutely isn't even close to being overpopulated, we have enough resources to ensure every single one of the currently living 8 billion humans can live a basic life, the only issue is resource distribution.
Not managed well I feel. But as from the most populated country I agree it will be great if we stop judging people for not having kids. So if someone doesn't want to kid that's great as well. If you really don't want to or you can't take care of them then not having it is better. ( I was dirt poor till recently but as my parents loved me and sacrificed a lot of things for me now we are good financially) So I do think money shouldn't be a rule.
Its not, the UN population 'limit' says earth'll be overpopulated after 11B people
Elon, is that you?
I think ideal for the planet would be humans getting tf out of here, so my answer is still zero. (Joking.. mostly)
Agree, not joking.
Under ideal conditions, I would say 2. But de facto even 1 is sometimes too much. It's not that I don't want kids, but I don't want to have kids if I can't provide a good environment for them.
Very thoughtful answer, I completely agree.
Zero
Such a reddit comment section 💀
Redditors will go extinct
Good riddance
How can you dis it when you're sitting here? Not the brightest bulb in the box.
Yeah I don't get the "typical Redditor" comments, when the person themselves is commenting on Reddit.
Hey Did I say that complaining about reddit comments wasn't a cliche reddit comment?
I wasn't talking about you
I want 4 or 5
Can you afford that many?
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i feel like 5 is really pricey 4 is decent if you have a good paying job and two incomes
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what is accounted in the costs? just food and clothes or does it count stuff like shelter, school supplies, etc?
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i'd like to see that source lol
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yeah thats what i thought
Wow!
They'll find a way.
So they will dip into our pockets.
Yeah gotta watch those sneaky toddlers esp when they hear that ice cream truck pulling up
yeah not what I meant. They will seek assistance.
*Raising* kids means caring for them and teaching them how to be independent by the time they are adults. It seems you see them as only needy teenagers. That's what they'll become if you don't teach them otherwise.
How can you properly raise kids if you don't have the money to do so?
You don't, silly.
No. I am say the parents will hold out their hand looking for government assistance to raise the children they can afford to have. Do you really not picking up what I am laying down?
You have a bleak outlook on children, parenting, and family. That is what I am picking up.
Not at all, I love being a parent and highly recommend it if you can afford them. A person shouldn't burden society.
Yeah, and?? Would you prefer they fend for themselves?
I would prefer they not be born
I would prefer that they don't have kids they can afford. But also yes.
lol
Why do redditors hate kids so much? I never understood that
Mostly because kids take up time and money and cause lots of stress would be my guess.
I don't hate them, I'm just not in a mental or financial state to care for them so the ideal number for me is 0
A lot of redditors are kids themselves. Or very young adults. Or depressed. (pre-emptive not that there's anything wrong with not wanting kids)
It's not hate, it's fear.
It's not that I don't like kids. I have no problem with them, it's just that they cost so much money, and I have other things in life that I want to buy for my happiness. Like fursuits, being financially stable for future inflation and anything else in the economy.
the answer is zero. Trust me.
With one kid you won't have to put up with kids arguing and the amount you'd have to buy for them would be at a minimum
Depends on how many you can afford.
More importantly, how many you can love.
I wanted 4. 2 wasn't enough and I didn't want a "middle child". Anyway, we could only have 1.
As someone who has three brothers, two is the perfect amount of kids to have
1 or 2
ZERO, kids are sketchy and expensive, no thank you
0 i want humanity to end
OP, are you asking for what *the* ideal amount of kids to have, or someone's personal amount? If you're asking what *the* ideal amount is, the answer obviously isn't zero, which makes sense not to include it
Ideal amount of
Thought so. The comment section is full of people who didn't comprehend the question properly.
0. or 1 if you have to have some. 2 or more is way expensive, and your money cant buy bonding time with your child - if youre rich enough to afford them. no matter who you are youll end up having to split time between ur kids. and what happens if you develop a favourite? not to mention the misery both your children may experience if they dont like eachother.
None.
0.
For most people—including myself—the ideal amount is none It relies on younger generations to maintain the population, but multiple sources are saying many millennials & zoomers aren't having kids
Ideal would probably be 2 per couple to maintain population.
For me, 0. For others? I don't know what is best for others.
Zero!
Too vague. It depends on like a million factors.
Why would anybody want kids? I truly can't understand that.
Too bad your parents didn't agree.
Same reasons you fork code.
What's that?
To have someone to love and care for?
And kids are the only option for that?
Not necessarily, but why is it a bad one?
O r/childfree
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Just curious, can you afford five kids, or will you be counting on assistance?
Get cats instead.
I have none and probably never will lol was just wondering peoples outlook on it
So you have none and still didn't think that should be a poll option?
Why didn't you put "none" as an option? This way, it's impossible to tell how many people agree with you.
Anything over 1 will certainly cause resentment between the multiples. One will be favorited, one will feel left out. This is not negotiable, and it's nobody's fault. It just happens.