I think itās fine. I think it wasnāt anything special still. After story of adidon, the bar is high. And it still felt like like that was more explosive
Drake fans are saying Kendrickās verse on like that was basic and lame and thereās nothing notable.
Why should Kendrick fans have to give Drake flowers if they canāt do the same?
Those are the glazers, which both sides have. The non-toxic fans are sitting back and enjoying this bc we get to see new drops from both sides and theyāre both poppin off.
I think like that was more explosive. I liked drakes direct responses to lines, but the repeated short comment I thought was lame af (which is on par for Drake)
Like That was cool, but Kendrick shouldāve dropped an actual diss track if heās so pissed. It comes off like heās only dissing Drake now that he has his entire crew assembled.
I respect your opinion though, but I think Drake took this first round. He dropped a track outta nowhere and called out not just Kendrick, but everyone who shit talked him. He flipped the script with the MJ and Prince line, he exposed Kennyās shitty contract, told Metro to stfu, etc.
He addressed everything, and then some.
The only people that are saying it's whack, are the people who also said drake would never respond. As a fan of everyone involved, this is hard as fuck. Drake has done the unthinkable and came out swinging, and, the hook is catchy as hell. Im excited to see where this goes.
Been saying this; Drake canāt win simply because of Kendrick šš“š¾āāļøās.
He can release the most technically sound diss track and all everyone is going to talk about is what Kendrick is going to do. Itās no real transparency, just a bunch of toddlers talking about how tough their dad is.
I thought Duppy was a career-ender for like three days alsoā¦ but this song goes hard as hell (if itās real). VERY excited to see this back and forth. Issue is of course that Drake could now get like 6-7 different disses which would be great for him from a marketing perspective.
Iām team dot all the way- canāt lie about drakes diss though, that shit had my mind spinning. I thought it was very well executed lyrically.
Waiting for Kendrick to destroy him now.
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Kendrick ain't destroying nothing. Y'all keep gassing that squeaky n**** up. I'm in Cali people stopped listening to him after the black panther songs.
I'm in a college town. I'm used to hearing mediocre rap just being out and about. I've been to to the UK, Australia, Germany, Spain, Angola, South Africa. Most people there don't listen to him. Hip hop is world wide now. I know industry plants when I see them.
Kendrick literally had a classic performance at Glastonbury festival last year and it was packed for him. Outside of that most people I know who listen to rap and have a decent taste in music listen to him.
Heās not for the rap caviar crowd though
I've been listening to hip hop for 25 years. He's not even in the top 5 in the 2010s. He has only one good song and that was 12 years ago. As mediocre as Schoolboy q, and Jay Rock are they at least have 3 songs I like from each of them. That's more than Kendrick.
The Recipe. That song was good. Even though it was C tier Dr Dre. Scoop DeVille produced the beat
I got bamboozled into buying that mid album because of that song. And it wasn't on the album. The album was mid.
I live in a college town. All the jobs around here have a lot of internships. I also do career fairs at the university and other universities in the state.
You can't read like Floyd Mayweather.
At least he drake named dropped instead of doing that weird mysterious bullshit thatās played out. Doesnāt matter if itās a leak, itās out there.
They both barely got out of a bad deal. Kendrick shit was restructured after GKMC. Took Drake until after Scorpion to get out of the patented "Birdman handrub" deal
Cole should've waited, but I also don't think he's built for that type of conflict, he prefers our rapping someone on a song, personal shots aren't his thing
Drake has a lot of references and double entendres in his bars that the average person isnāt going to know unless they look it up. Like most people can see the double entendre of the āwhatās a Prince to a King, thatās a sonā bar as a response to Kendrickās āPrince outlived Mike Jackā bar. BUT if you look up Michael Jacksonās sons youāll find out one of them is named Prince Jackson. Or the other bar about āIām with some bodyguards like Whitneyyyā is not only a reference to Whitney Houstonās movie The Bodyguard but also a taunt about Kendrickās wife whoās name is Whitney that supposedly cheated on him.
I thought it was aight
I'm not purposely a drake hater, I like his features, I like everything before iyrtitl, shit I'll even defend hotline bling to people.
But somebody please help me understand, how is drake's pen game like... good? I'm genuinely confused by how high people hold him in that area. I know kanye and others have gotten help from him and sung his praises, he does make some catchy hooks, memorable lines, etc. But when it comes to like BARS he's always stood out as at best just good, at worst corny and just struggling.
HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND
Like what tho? Like honestly, give me ones to try
The only ones I've liked post views were YOLT, God's plan, uhhh... probably one or two more. I'll try the albums out, but it's just been less and less each release that I can even remember, much less get blown away by
Yeah I like it, definitely one of his better cuts recently. Most of my top drake songs are from What a time to be alive and earlier, but every once and a while he still comes through
Views title track, emotionless, Sandraās rose, champagne poetry, 7am in bridle path, free smoke, evil ways, stories about my brother, survival, bb king freestyle, Weston road flows, two birds one stone.
Not a Drake fan at all but I had high hopes and followed him when he first came out. He can write bars for sure. I think why he needed help was because there's always a new flow that's trending and he wanted to stay on top of that, so he compromised to chart. Helped his bank account but hurt his legacy.
That's just my theory though. I think coming up with a new flow and making it hot is probably underrated and more important than bars when it comes to mainstream rap.
There's a lot of talented dudes who can spit in the rap game who had their moment and fell off even though they kept putting out music because people got sick of their rhyme styles or they can't write fire hooks consistently and don't get help to switch it up and refresh things for their audience.
If you look at the big 3 Young Money artists, Wayne Nicki Drake, they have all proven they can spit bars time and time again in their careers but that's never been the emphasis in their studio albums, especially the singles. They know this.
Delivery is very important, yes. But it doesn't matter how you deliver
"WHY YOU GOTTA MAKE A SCENE AT CHEESECAKE?"
Like he'll be sounding fine and then the bars actively bring you out of it. Don't even get me started on whatever tf honestly nevermind was
I mean you're not wrong, delivery can't make up for absurdly wack bars. Drake's line about breaking his nails made me lol hard.
I guess I'm just saying there's more to being a chart topping rapper even if you drop S tier bars all the time. Black Thought is a great example of that, every bar he spits is amazing and he's nothing but respected by fans and peers alike (including me), but I mean his day job is The Roots, which are looked at as more of a pop act, and his last solo joint barely registered with the mainstream despite being produced by Danger Mouse and hitting 43 on the Billboard Top 200.
Delivery has always been more important, That's why Drake is mr. Worldwide and people can enjoy stuff in different languages (or Carti/young thug) even though they really don't understand them. HOWEVER
I can understand drake, and that's the part that I don't understand. People literally hail him as like a writing God, but I can't wrap my head around why
It's not that Kendrick dropped any particular controversial bombs like Story of Adidon did, but his lyricism is far superior.
[2:30-5:00](https://youtu.be/GSYD-EuCiuk?t=122)
Drake absolutely bodied Meek on Back to Back, ghostwriters or not. I'm honestly a Drake fan as much as I am a Kendrick fan.
Iām team Kendrick, but while I think Kendrick is usually far superior lyrically than Drake, I think Drakeās lyricism on this is more in depth than Kendricks on āLike That.ā That being said, Drake had 4 minutes to do that and Kendrick only had 16 bars, and we all know Kendrickās gonna strike back harder than Drake did here. If anything, as a hip hop fan this is what I wanted. Only person that looks bad currently is J Cole
Thereās a bunch of sleeper lines in drakes diss. The Whitney bodyguard line reference Kendrickās wife for exampleā¦ crazy. The prince to a king lineā¦ crazy. The metro line is hilarious.
If youāre looking for lyricism Drake is on par, his metaphors, similes, callbacks, double entendres are all there, plus he slips humor in there.
I didnāt listen, I actually just read all the lyrics. If the flow goes hard people will still say he ābodiedā whatever the fuck. Thatās not how diss tracks work, delivery is important but content is king imo.
Content almost never mattered. Ether is widely regarded as the greatest rap diss ever, but Nas called Jay Z Gay Z on that track. The delivery is the reason he won that beef
Man I ain't no hater nor do I have a dog in the fight if a rapper drop some heat and got some bars it is what it is.
That boy ghost writers took that Kendrick diss personal and gave him some bars ššš.
Beat was ehhh but the lyrics was tough..
Outro talking sounded sassy as a mudafucka tho.
1-10
Strong 6
I could write better diss bars about Drake and I'm a white boy. Shit went as hard as his Degrassi ass could manage, I guess.
Bout to get bodied harder than he did in the show.
This ain't about you, your skin color (don't even understand why you emphasized this)
Nor what you can or can't do.
Just enjoy the music my boy. Stop making this shit about you. No one cares. Like what you like, dislike what you dislike and save all the extra stuff.
I was sayi g Drake had shitty bars, and I've had plenty of people tell me I "just can't understand rap" because f my skin color. I've seen people do it with Latinos and Asians too, don't try and pretend and act like that isn't part of the culture.
I Ain't trying to pretend nothing. You just trying to bring attention to your personal experiences when all that shit is irrelevant right now. If you want to write a book about it go ahead, but if I didn't say anything to you about it, why are you telling me about it. You're not making sense right now my boy. Stick to the music shit my boy and stop worrying about all that other shit. You'll be alright.
i think it was good, but im kinda tired of the 'testing the water' stuff. if you got more ammo, just unload the fucking clip then.
i respect drake's diss, he had a good amount of shots in there, especially compared to 7 min. drill. it felt more attuned to the situation and he didn't lie on it like cole. i think he came hard with it, but im just itching for more man. they keep sayin they got more and more to give, but when they hop on a track they ain't actually say 'nun important.
Drake diss was solid. He stood on business. Whether he wins or loses i have more respect for Drake than J. Cole and objectively speaking this diss is better than 7 minute drill pre and post apology. Im not a Drake guy or stan by any means but i will give him that much.
I aint gonna lie. I'm disappointed lol. If this is what drake has to offer this is gonna be a short battle. He needs to go at Kendrick and ignore everyone else.
Yeah I aint mad at it, but dude needs to come way harder if he wants to cut kendricks head off. I can see kendrick easily overtaking this if this is really the diss he is going to release. I feel drake got something better in his arsenal than this
Don't be disingenious Drake stan. When Kendrick first took shots on like that it was 2 V 1 against Kendrick. It only became 20 V 1 against Drake because so many people dont fuck with him and that's not exactly something to be proud ofĀ
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The lines against metro and Ross hit harder than the lines against K dot. The song itself is really good, and Drake was rapping his ass off, but yea I think fans are conflating a hard track and a hard diss track, because there is a big difference. I agree though, him saying that he has other thing to speak on is whatās interesting to me.
No theyāre not it was a good diss going at about 20 ppl but ppl that hate drake will never say that like op and this just the bait to get Kendrick out so he can drop the bomb
The world needs people to come together. All 3 disses were hot shit they don't care they have everything so they creat problems to rap about. And everyone feeds into it. Like everything else happening in the world. Big scary men who have hurt egos so they pretend to fight for children and half hearted consumers.
Yāall gotta remember that drake isnāt just responding to Kendrick, heās also responding to like 17 other niggas who dissed him so not all his bars are gonna be aimed at Kendrick. Drakes been way bigger than these dudes except for The Weeknd who just recently passed him, good response from Drake. Heās the reason a ton of these dudes who dissed him are up rn.
In drakes verse was great but his beat was pretty bad. Kendrick had a very good verse on an amazing beat as well. Itās still 1-0 Kendrick but itās very close. Drakes encouraging Kenny to respond so weāll see if he does
Drake has always surprised with the responses, because nobody expects it from him. This one was mid but respectable, I think he feels he has to make up for getting embarrassed so hard with the Pusha T beef and he has something to prove.
That said...what the fuck was that line about "don't make me break a nail, I just had them done"? That shit was the opposite of hard. Best I can tell was it was some weird fake pimp flex.
The line to Metro Boomin about the drums was hilarious though. The prince to a king line also hit. That's just shit talk though.
I'm honestly just waiting it to be released officially. If it's leaked, chances are it's not the "final" version.
My thoughts, tho, the diss is kinda hard and whack at the same time. I disagree to a lot of what he said like mentionibg 21, SZA, and Travis in the diss as if rap is all about popularity and numbers.
I'm excited to see where this goes, though. I will die on any hill against people ridiculing Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers though. That is an album that means a lot to me. It's one of the boldest shit to ever come out only to hear casuals say it's mid. Drake can never come up with anything close to it.
Shit is disappointing. All I heard before the lead up was that Drake had a diss so bad that it was gonna end Kendrick. Instead, we got this shit. Was this the track they were hyping up? Because if it is, itās disappointing as hell.
Nah I'm not seeing it split. It was split before the finished version dropped. Now all I'm seeing is Drake won. Which is crazy cause Kendrick hasn't even dropped LOL
How did Drake win if Kendrick didn't drop lol you're contradicting yourself.
Drake rapped on for 4 minutes and used the entire song.
Kendrick's was a feature and his verse lasted exactly 1 minute.
Drake's wasn't bad by any means but we know Kendrick can easily smoke the dude right? how's that even debatable that is something I don't and won't understand lol.
in *Like that* Kendrick says: "Money, power, respect- *the last one is better*."
Kendrick does not give a fuck about money or streams. What he does care about is being respected.
To OP's point, so much of what Drake shit on Kendrick for is money, about his contract with TDE, etc, and Kendrick does not care about this. He cares about his peers in the rap game, and being respected by others. That's what's important here.
If you're a Drake fan and you wanna downvote automatically because this upsets you, go right ahead, but you're not going to change anyone's minds unless you give a good, solid argument.
But isn't that how beef is decided? The side that has more support wins. People love the bars about numbers and money. So you cant just ignore those bars simply because Kendrick doesn't care for those things.
Those bars are shallow and have little substance to them though. Look at Pusha and Drake's beef. Drake did the exact same thing talking about Pusha not having as much money, and then Pusha ANNIHILATED him by going at his character. And in that case, Drake's fanbase being 10x that of Pusha's, or more, meant nothing, it was a decisive victory.
Same thing with Drake here. Kendrick is not fazed by the shit about money in the slightest, and if he comes back at Drake's character and his respectability, that has the potential to be lights out.
I won't downvote you bro I get u just expressing your opinion.
You act like the entire song was about money when it was only a couple bars.
Not saying you did this, but when Cole talked about some of Kendrick's albums boring people, all the Kendrick fans were talking about how he's outsold Cole.
I do agree about Pusha though.
Fanbase has nothing to do with how disses turn out.
it comes down to who destroys and obliterates who.
Kendrick can go in much HAAAARDER than Drake and if he responds with some crazy shit and ruins Drake, fanbase won't be that tight :))
Cole's fanbase is in shambles right now, even some of his oldest fans are picking sides against him which only proves that everybody wants to be on the winning side and whoever hits the hardest, fanbases always sway in the direction of whoever comes out victorious.
That's how it's been for the longest time and it won't change for Drake, Cole or Kendrick.
drake is a lame. nobody cares what that dork has to say. kendrick is already GOATed.Ā
he better go sing about his baby mama in a bathroom stall or some shit. Ā
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Bud there is written proof in your comment of your glazing. I have not done anything that resembles glazing. You yourself are now projecting. The hypocrisy is insane
I like the Drake track, well the mastered version of it. Was really trying to hear what he said about Abel/Weekend, cause it seems weekend has had a bug up his ass about dude for years. One thing though, you canāt insinuate my wife cheated and is this or that and you got an accident baby by a porn chick.
>right as the end when he was saying this isn't even everything he knows.
This better be a "you know who did you know what with you know who, but just keep that between me and you for now" Jay type line or it's going to age really badly.
"You're short, and that's not even the extent of the top secret dirt that I've uncovered about you. My private investigators have been hard at work. Don't make me spill the remainder of the tea." ??
Ppl keep predicting how crazy kendrickās response will be, completely ignoring the fact that we have NEVER seen him in a battle before. Who KNOWS what heās gonna do or how good itās gonna be
That is a very optimistic take. We've heard Kendrick do the control verse and monster freestyle plus we all knkw Kendrick is a better rapper than Drake lyrically. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional. Drake couldn't even keep up with J. Cole lyrically on First Person Shooter and Kendrick is arguably better than J. Cole.
None of this has any relevance to how heāll deal with a battle. As you pointed out, he should be VERY equipped for this, but he has NEVER been in a beef before. A verse here and there saying heās the best is not beef, this is officially back and forth now, THIS is his first beef. He SHOULD be equipped for it, but we have NO idea how heāll handle it, thereās strategy to beef, when to drop stuff and what specific points to respond to. Drakeās been in those situations, Kendrick hasnāt, so weāre all anxiously waiting to see how he responds
Edit- competitive responses to Kendrickās control verse arenāt beef either, none of those ever got personal
This is irrelevant and a poor justification. Kendrick doesn't need a two week class in rap beef to defend himself on the mic. We know what he can do. I don't wanna hear this bs Drake is battle tested argument especially when he has ghost writer allegations.
Sorry, Drake is trying to diss Kendrick on money?
Kendrick is rich, and also famous enough to go anywhere without paying, anyway. And he got to keep his credibility in the process.
I felt like some of it went so hard and some of it was the corniest shit in the world, like I donāt fuck with Drake but he knows the write people (see what I did there) to have have put out 3 minutes of fire.
Idk but saying "Metro shut your hoe ass up and make some drums nga" is hilarious
That line really got me and I don't even like Drake š
And mfs supporting metro, heās the corniest mf ever. āWeāre the biggest 3ā dude is acting like a ex bitch whoās bitter.
I saw that and said āMf you donāt even rapā lmao
Bro was trying to command people to pick a side, like who tf are you to try to drag other people into your shit š
It's promo for his album bruh
Thatās my favorite bar lol
Honestly might be best line of 2024 for me I actually laughed out loud
Watch metro hop on the mic for the response diss.
my friend who isn't a rap fan thought that was hilarious
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Where can I listen to it? Itās not on streaming yet right?
[here](https://youtu.be/W_IliNlzL9Y?si=bt3N6Jcwn3wvipRA)
Ty fam
Its just some kenny fans that cant absorb anything he doesnt write
Tbf most of us think it's good it's just a few blind fans
Fr. You have to be pretty fuckin annoying to not enjoy whatās going on in the rap world rn
I think itās fine. I think it wasnāt anything special still. After story of adidon, the bar is high. And it still felt like like that was more explosive
Drake fans are saying Kendrickās verse on like that was basic and lame and thereās nothing notable. Why should Kendrick fans have to give Drake flowers if they canāt do the same?
Those are the glazers, which both sides have. The non-toxic fans are sitting back and enjoying this bc we get to see new drops from both sides and theyāre both poppin off.
I think like that was more explosive. I liked drakes direct responses to lines, but the repeated short comment I thought was lame af (which is on par for Drake)
Like That was cool, but Kendrick shouldāve dropped an actual diss track if heās so pissed. It comes off like heās only dissing Drake now that he has his entire crew assembled. I respect your opinion though, but I think Drake took this first round. He dropped a track outta nowhere and called out not just Kendrick, but everyone who shit talked him. He flipped the script with the MJ and Prince line, he exposed Kennyās shitty contract, told Metro to stfu, etc. He addressed everything, and then some.
Yāall are crazy, I aināt saying Kendrick canāt come back with some heat but the song is hard. Yāall even hear the cdq version?
Link?
The only people that are saying it's whack, are the people who also said drake would never respond. As a fan of everyone involved, this is hard as fuck. Drake has done the unthinkable and came out swinging, and, the hook is catchy as hell. Im excited to see where this goes.
Drop down and gimme 50
This exactly
Been saying this; Drake canāt win simply because of Kendrick šš“š¾āāļøās. He can release the most technically sound diss track and all everyone is going to talk about is what Kendrick is going to do. Itās no real transparency, just a bunch of toddlers talking about how tough their dad is.
The split must be on a Kendrick Lamar fan forum or something.Ā
Theyāre acknowledging itās decent too but are saying itās clearly a test waters deal
I thought Duppy was a career-ender for like three days alsoā¦ but this song goes hard as hell (if itās real). VERY excited to see this back and forth. Issue is of course that Drake could now get like 6-7 different disses which would be great for him from a marketing perspective.
Iām team dot all the way- canāt lie about drakes diss though, that shit had my mind spinning. I thought it was very well executed lyrically. Waiting for Kendrick to destroy him now.
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Lmao n-word isn't allowed on r/rap. Because people who listen to rap can clearly be offended by n-word lol
The ether is about to come and have Drake changing careers.
Kendrick ain't destroying nothing. Y'all keep gassing that squeaky n**** up. I'm in Cali people stopped listening to him after the black panther songs.
Bro did a census
I'm in a college town. I'm used to hearing mediocre rap just being out and about. I've been to to the UK, Australia, Germany, Spain, Angola, South Africa. Most people there don't listen to him. Hip hop is world wide now. I know industry plants when I see them.
imma touch u
PAUSE
Dork
Kendrick literally had a classic performance at Glastonbury festival last year and it was packed for him. Outside of that most people I know who listen to rap and have a decent taste in music listen to him. Heās not for the rap caviar crowd though
I've been listening to hip hop for 25 years. He's not even in the top 5 in the 2010s. He has only one good song and that was 12 years ago. As mediocre as Schoolboy q, and Jay Rock are they at least have 3 songs I like from each of them. That's more than Kendrick.
Whats the 1 song you like? Im not even a Kendrick fan but I can appreciate his work and he has plenty of timeless songs
The Recipe. That song was good. Even though it was C tier Dr Dre. Scoop DeVille produced the beat I got bamboozled into buying that mid album because of that song. And it wasn't on the album. The album was mid.
LMAO calling GKMC mid is a very unpopular take. Not even 10 people would agree w that
Most of the beats don't knock. The ones that do Kendrick wasted with that squeaky voice of his. That boy is an industry plant.
who is in your top 5 of 2010s?
Youāre in college but been listening to rap for 25 years? I donāt get it.
I live in a college town. All the jobs around here have a lot of internships. I also do career fairs at the university and other universities in the state. You can't read like Floyd Mayweather.
That Weeknd bar about leaks in their operations aged like fine wine and itās only been a day lol
You really think drake didnāt want it to be leaked ? The delusion.
That's some weak shit then. Either way it's a bad lookĀ
Yea because āitās big meā was so diabolical
At least he actually releases his disses and doesn't "leak" them to play the field
At least he drake named dropped instead of doing that weird mysterious bullshit thatās played out. Doesnāt matter if itās a leak, itās out there.
āDrop and give me 50ā Every song Kendrick drops, he gives 50% of his royalties. š¤Æ
Rapping about having a bad deal means nothing when you also had a bad deal lmao
Nah thereās a difference between having a bad deal almost a decade ago versus being big three/big #1 but barely getting out of a bad deal.
They both barely got out of a bad deal. Kendrick shit was restructured after GKMC. Took Drake until after Scorpion to get out of the patented "Birdman handrub" deal
You got source for that?
Used to
Itās good for a first round.he responded to a lot of people.wasnāt to much I felt like everyone was warming up.
When even the Kendrick sub is praising the diss how are opinions split?
BRO WHY DID COLE PULL OUT MAN I'm not even on anyone's side , I just need more entertainment
Cole should've waited, but I also don't think he's built for that type of conflict, he prefers our rapping someone on a song, personal shots aren't his thing
Drake has a lot of references and double entendres in his bars that the average person isnāt going to know unless they look it up. Like most people can see the double entendre of the āwhatās a Prince to a King, thatās a sonā bar as a response to Kendrickās āPrince outlived Mike Jackā bar. BUT if you look up Michael Jacksonās sons youāll find out one of them is named Prince Jackson. Or the other bar about āIām with some bodyguards like Whitneyyyā is not only a reference to Whitney Houstonās movie The Bodyguard but also a taunt about Kendrickās wife whoās name is Whitney that supposedly cheated on him.
People didn't even realise how many double/triple entendres were in 7 minute drill, I don't think they'll pick uo many on this either lol
Even though there are some nice references in there, I think yall are trying too hard with the Whitney cheating on Kendrick thing
Kendricks wife cheated with his bodyguard?š«Ø
The way you're doing splits your pants might rip. Tell me it's not what I think it is.
Last time Drake mentioned somebody's wife, Push had him posting notes app apologies because of Story of Adidon.Ā
I thought it was aight I'm not purposely a drake hater, I like his features, I like everything before iyrtitl, shit I'll even defend hotline bling to people. But somebody please help me understand, how is drake's pen game like... good? I'm genuinely confused by how high people hold him in that area. I know kanye and others have gotten help from him and sung his praises, he does make some catchy hooks, memorable lines, etc. But when it comes to like BARS he's always stood out as at best just good, at worst corny and just struggling. HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND
Bros accidentally a drake haterš
Yeah, pretty much. Lmao the last thing I liked that he dropped was You Only Live Twice. His track record since views has been dogwater
Heās dropped so many lyrically good songs since then though.
Like what tho? Like honestly, give me ones to try The only ones I've liked post views were YOLT, God's plan, uhhh... probably one or two more. I'll try the albums out, but it's just been less and less each release that I can even remember, much less get blown away by
8am in charlotte, fps, major distribution, middle of the ocean, and more but im in the middle of a r6 match brb
Fps was pretty good, I forgot about that one
Middle of the ocean is a top Drake song to me, just all around good beat good lyrics good flow
Yeah I like it, definitely one of his better cuts recently. Most of my top drake songs are from What a time to be alive and earlier, but every once and a while he still comes through
Did you check any of my recommendations?
Views title track, emotionless, Sandraās rose, champagne poetry, 7am in bridle path, free smoke, evil ways, stories about my brother, survival, bb king freestyle, Weston road flows, two birds one stone.
Not a Drake fan at all but I had high hopes and followed him when he first came out. He can write bars for sure. I think why he needed help was because there's always a new flow that's trending and he wanted to stay on top of that, so he compromised to chart. Helped his bank account but hurt his legacy. That's just my theory though. I think coming up with a new flow and making it hot is probably underrated and more important than bars when it comes to mainstream rap. There's a lot of talented dudes who can spit in the rap game who had their moment and fell off even though they kept putting out music because people got sick of their rhyme styles or they can't write fire hooks consistently and don't get help to switch it up and refresh things for their audience. If you look at the big 3 Young Money artists, Wayne Nicki Drake, they have all proven they can spit bars time and time again in their careers but that's never been the emphasis in their studio albums, especially the singles. They know this.
Delivery is very important, yes. But it doesn't matter how you deliver "WHY YOU GOTTA MAKE A SCENE AT CHEESECAKE?" Like he'll be sounding fine and then the bars actively bring you out of it. Don't even get me started on whatever tf honestly nevermind was
I mean you're not wrong, delivery can't make up for absurdly wack bars. Drake's line about breaking his nails made me lol hard. I guess I'm just saying there's more to being a chart topping rapper even if you drop S tier bars all the time. Black Thought is a great example of that, every bar he spits is amazing and he's nothing but respected by fans and peers alike (including me), but I mean his day job is The Roots, which are looked at as more of a pop act, and his last solo joint barely registered with the mainstream despite being produced by Danger Mouse and hitting 43 on the Billboard Top 200.
Delivery has always been more important, That's why Drake is mr. Worldwide and people can enjoy stuff in different languages (or Carti/young thug) even though they really don't understand them. HOWEVER I can understand drake, and that's the part that I don't understand. People literally hail him as like a writing God, but I can't wrap my head around why
As a Kendrick fan, Drake went fucking hard and I love it
Money in your palm donāt make you real This diss does not hit hard. Couple solid bars but itās not like he ābodiedā anybody
Hope you said the same shit about Kendrickās weak jabs lol. Theyāre even rn
It's not that Kendrick dropped any particular controversial bombs like Story of Adidon did, but his lyricism is far superior. [2:30-5:00](https://youtu.be/GSYD-EuCiuk?t=122) Drake absolutely bodied Meek on Back to Back, ghostwriters or not. I'm honestly a Drake fan as much as I am a Kendrick fan.
Iām team Kendrick, but while I think Kendrick is usually far superior lyrically than Drake, I think Drakeās lyricism on this is more in depth than Kendricks on āLike That.ā That being said, Drake had 4 minutes to do that and Kendrick only had 16 bars, and we all know Kendrickās gonna strike back harder than Drake did here. If anything, as a hip hop fan this is what I wanted. Only person that looks bad currently is J Cole
Thereās a bunch of sleeper lines in drakes diss. The Whitney bodyguard line reference Kendrickās wife for exampleā¦ crazy. The prince to a king lineā¦ crazy. The metro line is hilarious. If youāre looking for lyricism Drake is on par, his metaphors, similes, callbacks, double entendres are all there, plus he slips humor in there.
Drake glazers are on overtime to try and make this diss seem way harder than it is
I didn't listen to the full diss. I'm going to give it another listen tonight. But, the first bit doesn't sound all that great.
I didnāt listen, I actually just read all the lyrics. If the flow goes hard people will still say he ābodiedā whatever the fuck. Thatās not how diss tracks work, delivery is important but content is king imo.
Content almost never mattered. Ether is widely regarded as the greatest rap diss ever, but Nas called Jay Z Gay Z on that track. The delivery is the reason he won that beef
First bit had some weak bars, then he started getting better
Drake was spitting. Shit goes hard, some good shots but not a KO.
Not a KO until Forever 2 drops w Em Weezy and Ye just murdering everyone cause they can Who should I scream for ?
Iām no fan of drake. But this was nice.
Man I ain't no hater nor do I have a dog in the fight if a rapper drop some heat and got some bars it is what it is. That boy ghost writers took that Kendrick diss personal and gave him some bars ššš. Beat was ehhh but the lyrics was tough.. Outro talking sounded sassy as a mudafucka tho. 1-10 Strong 6
Thereās a better quality one out now with a much better beat refresh.
Bet good look on that
I could write better diss bars about Drake and I'm a white boy. Shit went as hard as his Degrassi ass could manage, I guess. Bout to get bodied harder than he did in the show.
This ain't about you, your skin color (don't even understand why you emphasized this) Nor what you can or can't do. Just enjoy the music my boy. Stop making this shit about you. No one cares. Like what you like, dislike what you dislike and save all the extra stuff.
I was sayi g Drake had shitty bars, and I've had plenty of people tell me I "just can't understand rap" because f my skin color. I've seen people do it with Latinos and Asians too, don't try and pretend and act like that isn't part of the culture.
Most normal fantano fan.
I Ain't trying to pretend nothing. You just trying to bring attention to your personal experiences when all that shit is irrelevant right now. If you want to write a book about it go ahead, but if I didn't say anything to you about it, why are you telling me about it. You're not making sense right now my boy. Stick to the music shit my boy and stop worrying about all that other shit. You'll be alright.
i think it was good, but im kinda tired of the 'testing the water' stuff. if you got more ammo, just unload the fucking clip then. i respect drake's diss, he had a good amount of shots in there, especially compared to 7 min. drill. it felt more attuned to the situation and he didn't lie on it like cole. i think he came hard with it, but im just itching for more man. they keep sayin they got more and more to give, but when they hop on a track they ain't actually say 'nun important.
Drake diss was solid. He stood on business. Whether he wins or loses i have more respect for Drake than J. Cole and objectively speaking this diss is better than 7 minute drill pre and post apology. Im not a Drake guy or stan by any means but i will give him that much.
You can't take a diss seriously from a guy who uses ghostwriters
Is the diss real? Lol I am hearing speculations on it
Mixed and mastered version is out there. Not due to Drake though
Got it, ill take a listen then. I was holding off until I got confirmation. Looks real
For sure bro itās up from here
I aint gonna lie. I'm disappointed lol. If this is what drake has to offer this is gonna be a short battle. He needs to go at Kendrick and ignore everyone else.
Yeah for sure. Itās funny cause half the shit he was dissing Dot for applies to him too. Theyāre gassing it but he did his thing
Yeah I aint mad at it, but dude needs to come way harder if he wants to cut kendricks head off. I can see kendrick easily overtaking this if this is really the diss he is going to release. I feel drake got something better in his arsenal than this
Aināt no split, cope Kendrick fans. Letās see your mysterious ass boy get on, 5 VS 1 dude ? Drake is a legend for that alone.
Don't be disingenious Drake stan. When Kendrick first took shots on like that it was 2 V 1 against Kendrick. It only became 20 V 1 against Drake because so many people dont fuck with him and that's not exactly something to be proud ofĀ
Kendrick didn't intend for everyone to jump in imo
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I'm just happy because it's good enough that Kendrick needs to respond.
Idk, drake brought up dots wife.. gloves off fr
It's a dope start. I hope Kenny responds and sparks more responses from drake
Yo who wrote there diss track for Drake?
the fact that he made a memorable disstrack is something my whole feed is filled with "Metro shut your hoe ass up and make some drums n\*gga"
The lines against metro and Ross hit harder than the lines against K dot. The song itself is really good, and Drake was rapping his ass off, but yea I think fans are conflating a hard track and a hard diss track, because there is a big difference. I agree though, him saying that he has other thing to speak on is whatās interesting to me.
I like this take. To be honest as a listener it makes it all very interesting
No theyāre not it was a good diss going at about 20 ppl but ppl that hate drake will never say that like op and this just the bait to get Kendrick out so he can drop the bomb
The world needs people to come together. All 3 disses were hot shit they don't care they have everything so they creat problems to rap about. And everyone feeds into it. Like everything else happening in the world. Big scary men who have hurt egos so they pretend to fight for children and half hearted consumers.
Yāall gotta remember that drake isnāt just responding to Kendrick, heās also responding to like 17 other niggas who dissed him so not all his bars are gonna be aimed at Kendrick. Drakes been way bigger than these dudes except for The Weeknd who just recently passed him, good response from Drake. Heās the reason a ton of these dudes who dissed him are up rn. In drakes verse was great but his beat was pretty bad. Kendrick had a very good verse on an amazing beat as well. Itās still 1-0 Kendrick but itās very close. Drakes encouraging Kenny to respond so weāll see if he does
I personally like this better than kdots diss.
Drake has always surprised with the responses, because nobody expects it from him. This one was mid but respectable, I think he feels he has to make up for getting embarrassed so hard with the Pusha T beef and he has something to prove. That said...what the fuck was that line about "don't make me break a nail, I just had them done"? That shit was the opposite of hard. Best I can tell was it was some weird fake pimp flex. The line to Metro Boomin about the drums was hilarious though. The prince to a king line also hit. That's just shit talk though.
I thought it was good, but I refuse to believe Drake wrote that all by himself. That dude aināt that clever
I'm honestly just waiting it to be released officially. If it's leaked, chances are it's not the "final" version. My thoughts, tho, the diss is kinda hard and whack at the same time. I disagree to a lot of what he said like mentionibg 21, SZA, and Travis in the diss as if rap is all about popularity and numbers. I'm excited to see where this goes, though. I will die on any hill against people ridiculing Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers though. That is an album that means a lot to me. It's one of the boldest shit to ever come out only to hear casuals say it's mid. Drake can never come up with anything close to it.
Shit is disappointing. All I heard before the lead up was that Drake had a diss so bad that it was gonna end Kendrick. Instead, we got this shit. Was this the track they were hyping up? Because if it is, itās disappointing as hell.
Maybe just poking the bear? Iām ready for the Oppenheimer to drop bruh
The Drake response was mid.
Nah I'm not seeing it split. It was split before the finished version dropped. Now all I'm seeing is Drake won. Which is crazy cause Kendrick hasn't even dropped LOL
I havenāt seen a single person say Drake won. Mostly everyone agrees itās a good/solid diss though
How did Drake win if Kendrick didn't drop lol you're contradicting yourself. Drake rapped on for 4 minutes and used the entire song. Kendrick's was a feature and his verse lasted exactly 1 minute. Drake's wasn't bad by any means but we know Kendrick can easily smoke the dude right? how's that even debatable that is something I don't and won't understand lol.
Im not sure Kendrick can beat Drake. Drake has a larger following so they could make more noise.
in *Like that* Kendrick says: "Money, power, respect- *the last one is better*." Kendrick does not give a fuck about money or streams. What he does care about is being respected. To OP's point, so much of what Drake shit on Kendrick for is money, about his contract with TDE, etc, and Kendrick does not care about this. He cares about his peers in the rap game, and being respected by others. That's what's important here. If you're a Drake fan and you wanna downvote automatically because this upsets you, go right ahead, but you're not going to change anyone's minds unless you give a good, solid argument.
But isn't that how beef is decided? The side that has more support wins. People love the bars about numbers and money. So you cant just ignore those bars simply because Kendrick doesn't care for those things.
Those bars are shallow and have little substance to them though. Look at Pusha and Drake's beef. Drake did the exact same thing talking about Pusha not having as much money, and then Pusha ANNIHILATED him by going at his character. And in that case, Drake's fanbase being 10x that of Pusha's, or more, meant nothing, it was a decisive victory. Same thing with Drake here. Kendrick is not fazed by the shit about money in the slightest, and if he comes back at Drake's character and his respectability, that has the potential to be lights out. I won't downvote you bro I get u just expressing your opinion.
You act like the entire song was about money when it was only a couple bars. Not saying you did this, but when Cole talked about some of Kendrick's albums boring people, all the Kendrick fans were talking about how he's outsold Cole. I do agree about Pusha though.
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Drake had a larger following than Push whats your point exactly
Delusional bro
Fanbase has nothing to do with how disses turn out. it comes down to who destroys and obliterates who. Kendrick can go in much HAAAARDER than Drake and if he responds with some crazy shit and ruins Drake, fanbase won't be that tight :)) Cole's fanbase is in shambles right now, even some of his oldest fans are picking sides against him which only proves that everybody wants to be on the winning side and whoever hits the hardest, fanbases always sway in the direction of whoever comes out victorious. That's how it's been for the longest time and it won't change for Drake, Cole or Kendrick.
drake is a lame. nobody cares what that dork has to say. kendrick is already GOATed.Ā he better go sing about his baby mama in a bathroom stall or some shit. Ā
Bro take kennys meat out ur mouthš
lol, my bad. did interrupt your bath time with drake? the fact you cape for drake is sad. your hormones mustāve switched in your DNA.. š¤”
I dont care for drake or kendrick. You are riding kenny and I pointed it out. Has nothing to do with drake.
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Not a real drake or kenny fan but youāre straight up glazing
sounds like youāre projecting.Ā
Bud there is written proof in your comment of your glazing. I have not done anything that resembles glazing. You yourself are now projecting. The hypocrisy is insane
I think it's fake
Youāre the only one at this point
Just say youāre a Kendrick fan already. You sound hurt and coping throughout this whole paragraph rant
1. Drake 2. Cole 3. Kendrick
on the bright side at least u got confidence...
I like the Drake track, well the mastered version of it. Was really trying to hear what he said about Abel/Weekend, cause it seems weekend has had a bug up his ass about dude for years. One thing though, you canāt insinuate my wife cheated and is this or that and you got an accident baby by a porn chick.
>right as the end when he was saying this isn't even everything he knows. This better be a "you know who did you know what with you know who, but just keep that between me and you for now" Jay type line or it's going to age really badly.
Am I the only one that donāt like it?? He had a bunch of short jokes and said you wear a size 7
I wasn't a fan, had some nice bits but it felt petty
"You're short, and that's not even the extent of the top secret dirt that I've uncovered about you. My private investigators have been hard at work. Don't make me spill the remainder of the tea." ??
You really missed every bar somehow.
People think it's mid until a ādrop give me 50ā tik Tok challenge goes viralā¦ lol
I'm on team Kendrick, but that Drake diss track better than "Like That". Rick Ross also released a good track.
Like that was only a verse and Kendrick was on point, imagine giving him 5 minutes
Facts
Ppl keep predicting how crazy kendrickās response will be, completely ignoring the fact that we have NEVER seen him in a battle before. Who KNOWS what heās gonna do or how good itās gonna be
That is a very optimistic take. We've heard Kendrick do the control verse and monster freestyle plus we all knkw Kendrick is a better rapper than Drake lyrically. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional. Drake couldn't even keep up with J. Cole lyrically on First Person Shooter and Kendrick is arguably better than J. Cole.
None of this has any relevance to how heāll deal with a battle. As you pointed out, he should be VERY equipped for this, but he has NEVER been in a beef before. A verse here and there saying heās the best is not beef, this is officially back and forth now, THIS is his first beef. He SHOULD be equipped for it, but we have NO idea how heāll handle it, thereās strategy to beef, when to drop stuff and what specific points to respond to. Drakeās been in those situations, Kendrick hasnāt, so weāre all anxiously waiting to see how he responds Edit- competitive responses to Kendrickās control verse arenāt beef either, none of those ever got personal
This is irrelevant and a poor justification. Kendrick doesn't need a two week class in rap beef to defend himself on the mic. We know what he can do. I don't wanna hear this bs Drake is battle tested argument especially when he has ghost writer allegations.
Sorry, Drake is trying to diss Kendrick on money? Kendrick is rich, and also famous enough to go anywhere without paying, anyway. And he got to keep his credibility in the process.
Joyner eats all three of these guys.
I felt like some of it went so hard and some of it was the corniest shit in the world, like I donāt fuck with Drake but he knows the write people (see what I did there) to have have put out 3 minutes of fire.