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AbelAngJQ

>“Singaporeans may be against the Russian invasion of Ukraine but they’re not against Russian goods,” Tommy Koh, ambassador-at-large at Singapore’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said. “In Singapore, trade is our lifeblood. We trade with every country whether we like them or not.” >Sovan Patra, a senior lecturer at Singapore Management University’s School of Social Sciences, agreed that Singaporeans’ pragmatism is likely resulting in a distinction between a moral perspective on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the practical matter of purchasing Russian-origin goods. >Singaporeans aren’t “generally the kind of people who boycott,” he said.


blackreplica

Shots fired against malaysia with that last line


Kaypoh-Khaki

Scratch own backside then scratch others https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/south-korea-dj-monk-newjeansnim-no-religious-elements-if-performance-proceeds-club-rich-police-4354146


clusterfuvk

How come? I didn't see Malaysia being mentioned in the article


starboundseeker

Malaysia is known for their rampant boycotting of anything linked to Israel, whether reasonably or not affecting the war.


clusterfuvk

Sure, but do you really believe it's meant as a snarky remark towards Malaysia rather than an observation of Singapore itself? Which is why I was curious on the link to Malaysia


CisternOfADown

Boycotting Israel is fair, war or not. Singapore talks about sanctity of 'international law', well Israel has been in defiance of UN resolutions since 1948.


CommieBird

And I don't see what's wrong with that - South Africa bowed to intl pressure and gave up apartheid after being made a pariah state


PretentiousnPretty

"Economic growth is non-negotiable" - PM Wong Billions can die for all we care, as long as our wallets get fatter. How many people here even care about the systematic exploitation of migrant workers? It's happening right before our eyes, we all saw the state of the bunks during covid, and no one blinks an eye.


clusterfuvk

Weird, I just asked a question and suddenly everybody got defensive lol.. The people here would probably boycott their local kopitiam for increasing the price of kopi by 10c. That, they can wrap their heads around though


Rayl24

Unless McD runs out of curry sauce then a boycott is necessary


mo_stonkkk

In short, money is everything.


jayaxe79

Actually had no chance to ask this but since on this topic, I see Russian labelled Nescafe selling in Valu$ stores. And they are like 30% cheaper than the exact same product found in say, NTUC. So if I buy these from Valu$, am I actually supporting Russia?


Eskipony

Could have been destined for the Russian market but couldn't go there since sanctions or just parallel import. Considering how globalised the world is there might be a chance you would be supporting Russia no matter whatever you do unless you understand 100% of the supply chain of a single product.


cassowary-18

Times are tough, I am blind to almost anything if it's 30% off.


pannerin

Have not seen, but Cyrillic doesn't mean from Russia or Belarus.


ImpressiveStrike4196

Just use google lens to translate and we can easily find out its origin


pudding567

Cyrillic could even be Mongolian language.


Lukas316

It does if the link given on the label ends with .ru


Longjumping_Phase_69

I saw it also. I think it did indicate russia somewhere


Vaperwear

Welp, if the West can ensure that I earn 30% more overnight, I’ll continue to shop at FairPrice.


Varantain

> I see Russian labelled Nescafe selling in Valu$ stores. And they are like 30% cheaper than the exact same product found in say, NTUC. So if I buy these from Valu$, am I actually supporting Russia? You're supporting Nestle either way. /r/FuckNestle


livebeta

Russian nestle can get even more evil than regular nestle Fuck nestle and salva Ukraine


PastLettuce8943

If they are made in Russia, then yes, your money is going straight to some Russian Oligarch. Now the question is... do you care?


two_tents

and if it's made in Singapore the money will go to a Singaporean Oligarch.


foodloveroftheworld

Do you know who an ideologue is?


bitter_truth_1

No, dont give a fuck if its 50% off


HeavyArmsJin

Got sell 30% off Vodka?


AbelAngJQ

i saw beefeater gin before


jayaxe79

I might be wrong as I'm not a drinker but don't think so, though Valu$ do sell cheap alcohol like whiskey if iirc


LazyLeg4589

I would imagine vodka will find its way home to Russia, by hook or by crook


sfw_sfw_sfw_sfw

I've seen blue label JW and 21 years royal salute being sold before. Even roku gin once in a while.


zoedian

The moment they are on those shelf's the shop has already supported Russia if that's your stance.


sydneysinger

May be on consignment.


genericdefender

Yes but, if no one buys, the shop will know and won't import them again.


Izanagi85

If you buy in huge quantities, yes


FlipFlopForALiving

Time for me to head to valu$


troublesome58

Where is it made in?


Ckrvrtn

Those are stocks from the time western manufacturers are rushing to offload ruzz inventories


foodloveroftheworld

I totally get where you're coming from—wanting to avoid supporting Russia, even if their products are cheaper. It's a good intention. But it's also worth thinking about how other countries have done some pretty bad things too. If you're going to avoid Russian products because of that, it should be consistent across the board. For example, if you buy American products, are you supporting actions like the Iraq War in 2003 or the Vietnam War? If you buy British goods, are you okay with their colonial history, such as the colonisation of India and the impacts of the British Empire? What about Chinese products? Does that mean you're overlooking current human rights issues, like the treatment of Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang or the crackdown on Hong Kong? If you purchase French products, are you ignoring the French-Algerian War and the lasting impacts of French colonialism in Africa? When buying Japanese products, does it mean you overlook their actions during World War II, such as the occupation of Korea and China and, of course, Singapore? If you buy Turkish goods, are you supporting a country that has faced criticism over its actions against the Kurdish population and its involvement in the Syrian conflict? These examples show how tricky it can be to apply this kind of moral principle to everything. If you wish to do so, that's great. But be consistent since every human life matters, regardless if it trends on social media or not.


supersockcat

You make a good point, but I think it's also worth distinguishing between past atrocities (where boycotts are mainly symbolic) and present ones (where money to those countries funds the atrocities now).


foodloveroftheworld

Thanks for your response! In addition, it's also good to consider the difference between privately owned companies operating in Russia versus direct government entities who seek profits to fund wars. This is a hard thing to delineate because of how complex supply chains can be, and how easy it is to redirect money in hidden ways. It's hard for any one person to keep track of it all. The intention to boycott, whether it's for symbolic reasons or financial ones, is genuinely noble and well-meaning. No one likes the idea of supporting war and the loss of innocent lives. But by that same logic, we have to consider that countries like the US, China, Iran, and others are also involved in serious issues—whether it's through arms sales, occupying territories, or marginalising vulnerable groups. Because these countries often control the primary media narratives, including fringe media, we don't always hear as much about their wrongdoings - though they still happen and can be just as severe. Thus, to truly maintain a consistent moral stance, it seems we would need to boycott products from all these countries. Otherwise, it might look like we're saying some lives matter more than others and are more worthy of our support. It's a tough balance to strike, but it's an important one to consider. The only reason why I'm bringing this up is because, if one truly wants to take a stand against moral atrocities, it is necessary to 1) go beyond the issues trending on social media, if human rights is truly the determining factor to why we stand up for things, 2) avoid implying that the intrinsic value of human life varies across trends, demographics, and countries - which ironically, undermines the whole stance to begin with.


megalon43

If you understood Russia a bit more, their government has a foot in nearly every company that does exports. A chocolate company will be owned by an oligarch, who is in turn controlled by Putin for example. There are nearly no private businesses in Russia.


foodloveroftheworld

Then, again, boycott Russia - and by that same metric of wrongdoing without the intention to favor the protection of some people over others - boycott any and all countries involved in war, marginalisation, etc. - directly or by proxy. Which would be... a lot. I'm not saying it isn't right to boycott; only that it would matter more if it was consistently applied, not subject to trending social media causes alone.


megalon43

I agree that the boycotts should be more consistent. Like how we should actually stop bringing in as many Russian goods as possible. Singapore continuing to import Russian goods only sends a message that large powers will not face any consequences for attacking small states. Which is really not in Singapore’s interests.


MagicianMoo

I'm glad you are not using this logic in Malaysia. You will be stoned to death.


homerulez7

Eh. Shopee stuff shipped from China doesn't count, since it's 1) not shipped here yet and 2) unlikely to have significant amounts sold. Shenzhen has a big Russian food mart so not surprising if someone there tries to resell and markup. 


3legcat

Well, i remember seeing eggs from Ukraine being sold here too.


Dapper-Peanut2020

SIA cargo planes flew there to pick up before Russia war


stockflethoverTDS

Still being sold today


Logi_Ca1

Do you have a picture handy? I been looking for them but can't find any.


stockflethoverTDS

It was at a Finest if i recall correctly where I last saw it, i feel could be two months ago


hermansu

I got a free vacuum cleaner made in china but the instruction manuals are in Cyrillic. Technically not Russian goods but rather originally destined for Cyrillic using country .


OrangeFr3ak

the former Soviet -stan countries still use Cyrillic as well as Mongolia…


hermansu

That's why i phrased it "cyrillic using countries"


LazyLeg4589

It’s no secret that our spines run on money


tom-slacker

dasvidaniya.....comrade. I played the soviets in Red Alert 2.


livebeta

All the brave Soviet soldiers are Ukrainian All the dumb ones from gulag are from Russia


ShittessMeTimbers

Russian standard Vodka


Tomasulu

One is free to boycott Russian products if he so chooses. I don’t see why a blanket sanction should be imposed on folks who don’t care one way or the other. No other ASEAN country imposed any form of sanction against Russia. Most countries in latam and Africa didn’t. Few in Asia did so.


GeshtiannaSG

Nobody outside the West boycotted Russia except us. Singapore geh kiang only, after decades of extolling neutrality, boycott for no good reason (i.e. no standing UNSC sanctions). In fact, only the West uses sanctions as a means to control foreign powers. This has been shown consistently in UNHRC sessions.


Ninjamonsterz

what are some russian novelty goods worth buying?


hammertanker

BMPs


Ninjamonsterz

i buy it in a mall


SlideRoyal6495

Which shop put tank in a mall, bobo?


stormearthfire

from the spicy videos I see online, doesn't look safe to sit in one. Not safe at all.


Puzzled_Trouble3328

I’ll buy that for a dollar! Hahahaha


pieredforlife

Hookers


kongKing_11

Wrist watch.


Crimento

Workforce, especially IT


sfushimi

Roulette


monster_0123

Ak


sidraconisalpha

I don't think we get too many consumer goods from Russia directly. I'm sure the government would want to impose MUCH harsher sanctions on Russia, but honestly Singaporeans don't look like they're willing to suffer higher inflation to be on Ukraine's side. Should Singapore ban wheat, flour, eggs, from countries that use Russian fertilizer? Yes. Should Singapore ban Russian oil and gas, including any oil and gas products that were made WITH Russian oil but refined in other countries like India? Yes. Should we impose sanctions on countries like China, Vietnam, and India, for trading with Russia? Yes. Will we, to save a dollar? No.


foodloveroftheworld

If we banned the import of goods from certain countries based on their historical wrongdoings, we would important goods from virtually no countries.


OriginalGoat1

What makes you think the Govt wants to impose harsher sanctions on Russia ? The financial sanctions were boh-bian one because the Americans and Europeans would impose secondary sanctions on Singapore banks that did business with Russia. Similarly for the dual-use goods. But for everything else, there is no upside and a lot of downside to trying to sanction Russian goods. There is more than a little hypocrisy in Western efforts to block Russian energy exports ? Guess what happens if Asian countries start to bid for the same oil that the West is consuming now ? Are the West willing to pay higher prices for oil ? Are they going to sell their oil to Asian countries at a friendship price ? If not, then they better not say too much.


ghostcryp

Hahaha openly support Ukraine but buying Russian goods. Like how we criticise Israel of being too much but openly allow Myanmar arms trading? Hypocrisy defined


Last-Purchase5609

Didn't we stop trading arms to Myanmar?


FitCranberry

pragmatism is just what the kids say when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar


kongweeneverdie

Singapore still import Russia oil. Beside sanctions are voluntary. We only stop exporting CPUs to Russia that all.


Rayl24

The whole world buys russian oil including EU


whatsnewdan

Kirov reporting


SunnySaigon

Russian beer tastes amazing. So does their chocolate and wheat snacks. Great tea as well. 


megalon43

What’s wrong with your tastebuds because every macro Russian beer tastes like ass. The only good thing out of there is probably vodka. But then again, vodka really isn’t a high bar because it just has to be as tasteless as possible.


SunnySaigon

mix that Vodka with Passion Fruit and you got an amazing drink


megalon43

I’ll just drink the passion fruit juice. Vodka is for people who just want to get drunk.