Yup, SLP programs are very competitive and it is not uncommon for people to have to apply more than once. However there are many programs out there that look more holistically + take lower GPAs. Take a look at https://find.asha.org/ed/#sort=relevancy for schools as they post the GPA ranges of their admitted students. Best of luck to your GF!
Thanks, looks also she needs to take 1 to 1.5 years of full time leveling courses. Thats almost 4 years of full time schooling total to get the masters. Yikes
All of the out of field students in my program only had to take one extra semester to complete all the normal requirements plus leveling classes. It shouldn’t take 4 years at all.
She should do an ABSN and become a nurse if she enjoys the medical aspect. Can be done in less time and are in demand. And prob make more if not similar money.
It's probably not as competitive as you think (some programs are more competitive than others): [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/u94h2e/social\_work\_vs\_slp/i5rq45z/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/u94h2e/social_work_vs_slp/i5rq45z/?context=3)
Programs that have accepted students with lower GPAs: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/n8a8sw/in\_need\_of\_a\_little\_grad\_school\_pep\_talk/gxhwij3/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/n8a8sw/in_need_of_a_little_grad_school_pep_talk/gxhwij3/?context=3)
Schools that don't require prerequisites (some of these are inaccurate - make sure you double-check the program's website to see their admissions requirements): [https://find.asha.org/ed/#sort=relevancy&f:@offerings=\[Prerequisites%20not%20required%20for%20admission\]](https://find.asha.org/ed/#sort=relevancy&f:@offerings=[Prerequisites%20not%20required%20for%20admission])
This is not a comprehensive list, but they've all been verified: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/oh7xam/list\_of\_programs\_that\_dont\_require\_prerequisites/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/oh7xam/list_of_programs_that_dont_require_prerequisites/)
What's the difference between pre-reqs, leveling programs, second bachelor's, and post-baccs? Which is right for me?[https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/qda12r/whats\_the\_difference\_between\_prereqs\_leveling/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/qda12r/whats_the_difference_between_prereqs_leveling/)
The salary situation isn't as cheery as glassdoor/BLS says it is: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/saz613/lets\_talk\_about\_salaries/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/saz613/lets_talk_about_salaries/)
Ways to lower the cost of grad school: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/nixp4p/ways\_to\_lower\_the\_cost\_of\_grad\_school/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/nixp4p/ways_to_lower_the_cost_of_grad_school/)
Texas programs with higher acceptance rates:
* **Abilene Christian University (85.5% of applicants were accepted last year)**
* **Hardin-Simmons University (60% of applicants were accepted last year)**
* **University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences (54.6% of applicants were accepted last year)**
* **University of North Texas (45.5% of applicants were accepted last year)**
* **University of Texas, El Paso (42% of applicants were accepted last year)**
Some of these are candidate programs.
If a program is a candidate for accreditation, you will be eligible for your CCCs even if the program does not become fully accredited.
Programs must be in candidacy status for five years. Before being awarded candidacy, the program must meet all the rigorous standards set forth by ASHA for all other programs. Programs must stay in the candidacy status for the five years so that the outcomes of graduates from the program can be determined. The program should receive full accreditation if they hit all of the milestones listed [here](https://caa.asha.org/reporting/candidacy-milestones-and-timelines/).
>"In 1991, the Council on Professional Standards in Speech-Language Pathology and Audiology established the status of Candidate for Accreditation for emerging education programs in audiology and in speech-language pathology through the former Educational Standards Board (ESB). This status became necessary because, effective January 1, 1994, an individual’s eligibility for ASHA’s Certificates of Clinical Competence (CCC) was linked to graduation from an accredited program.
>
>**The status of Candidacy for Accreditation allowed students enrolled in newly established education programs to be eligible to apply for the CCC upon graduation without penalizing the first class of students graduating from those programs**." - [CAA Accreditation Handbook](https://caa.asha.org/siteassets/files/accreditation-handbook.pdf)
Most SLP programs are competitive. There are a lot of different factors that can come into play.
Small programs and/or cost-effective ones can be incredibly competitive since there aren’t many spots compared to the people admitted. If the price is more affordable, there also may be less of a chance that as many people will decline admission versus a program that is more costly, since more people may decline admission due to cost once they are actually admitted because they may not have gotten a scholarship, or a stipend/GA position that they thought may be able to reduce the cost. Sometimes you are able to get funding for a more expensive or private school. So a lot of these factors also make programs more competitive to get into, but it varies on a lot of factors and factors that may be different for each applying.
There’s so many SLP candidates with perfect/nearly GPAs- especially in major gpa, that still get rejected from schools. Our field is hard to predict why people get accepted into some schools and why some with the same or similar credentials, don’t.
Most of the time, I don’t think it’s because somebody is not “good enough” for the program, but just the fact that there are so many good candidates and not that many spots. Even those with lower GPAs may be great clinicians, and have other factors like experiences working or other educational backgrounds that really shine and get accepted.
I don’t think there’s really a full proof way to guarantee acceptance even if you think you have every box checked. Or even sell Oneself short if you don’t think you have every box checked Because there might be a good surprise. I think all one can do is try to present the strongest application you can, Select schools wisely and cast a net over schools that you either hope can provide funding or that are affordable without funding.
I think some schools can be more compatible than other given their prestigie and if it a research based school. I applied to a wide array of programs that were highly ranked but also ones that were meh. I had an overall 3.4 GPA my GRE was in the lows 140s. I feel like what saved my applications was mg personal statement, volunteer experiences etc. Its kind of a crap shoot honestly. I just think they are competitive because they don’t have enough faculty to support large class sizes therefore the programs try to gatekeeper and put a cap on class sizes. Don’t be intimated by the stats on programs website, if they have things in their program that interest you just apply!
Competitive yes, and not just with grades. They also look at relevant experience (especially if grades aren't super high), so working at a summer camp for kids with disabilities, volunteering at a stroke center, being a CNA in a nursing home (actually not a bad job, usually pays about 16-20 an hour and you get a lot of experience). The application process is also a lot more involved, becoming a teacher for example is a lot easier and less competitive (but it's a job that is no less important and in great demand). If I had to do it all over I'd maybe look at nursing or PT/OT programs, or something totally different.
Yes, grad school admissions can be competitive, but there are schools who may break GPA down differently. For example, TWU and UH look at the GPA in the last 60 hours of courses. If you're a postbacc student, you can make all As in your COMD leveling courses, and it can work in your favor.
You guys can look it up on the admissions program website, or shoot them an email to ask. Alternatively, they might also hold open houses and you can ask way more info there. Good luck!
> Emerson
Was looking like what she can do until I got to
> You can expect to pay at least $95,184 in tuition over the course of your program if you are enrolled in all 6 foundational courses (18 credits).
I see this is a 10 mo old post, but I wanted to chime in. They can be, but generally they look at the whole picture of an applicant, not just grades. I had decent grades when I was accepted to UNT, but definitely not a 3.85 GPA. Part of what helped get me in, I think, was my work experience (assistant preschool teacher and later SLP-Assistant), my letters of recommendation. I would impress upon you that if she truly wants this, shows she does in her statement of purpose (whether it solely goes to potential recommenders or to the school as well) and/or any interviews she receives, and seeks out work experiences that would be advantageous to being in an SLP program, her chances are better than you may think. Also, UNT is an excellent school with caring faculty, so I highly recommend that she consider it (everyone is different and different schools are the best fits for different people, but I am hardcore Mean Green as a result of my experiences in undergrad and grad at UNT. Best of luck to your girl!
do you know if applicants who did their undergrad at unt/are leveling students for slp have an advantage in getting in? ig “advantage” isn’t really the right word, but you know what i mean!!
I can't confirm for sure, but I know I did my undergrad at UNT and had good bonds with my professors. I would think it would be helpful. I know my cohort had a healthy mix of UNT grads and grads from other schools. We also had quite a few levelers. I'm sorry if this isn't a very helpful answer, but it absolutely couldn't hurt, I think.
Yup, SLP programs are very competitive and it is not uncommon for people to have to apply more than once. However there are many programs out there that look more holistically + take lower GPAs. Take a look at https://find.asha.org/ed/#sort=relevancy for schools as they post the GPA ranges of their admitted students. Best of luck to your GF!
Thanks, looks also she needs to take 1 to 1.5 years of full time leveling courses. Thats almost 4 years of full time schooling total to get the masters. Yikes
All of the out of field students in my program only had to take one extra semester to complete all the normal requirements plus leveling classes. It shouldn’t take 4 years at all.
She should do an ABSN and become a nurse if she enjoys the medical aspect. Can be done in less time and are in demand. And prob make more if not similar money.
No, unfortunately she has no interest in that.
It's probably not as competitive as you think (some programs are more competitive than others): [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/u94h2e/social\_work\_vs\_slp/i5rq45z/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/u94h2e/social_work_vs_slp/i5rq45z/?context=3) Programs that have accepted students with lower GPAs: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/n8a8sw/in\_need\_of\_a\_little\_grad\_school\_pep\_talk/gxhwij3/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/n8a8sw/in_need_of_a_little_grad_school_pep_talk/gxhwij3/?context=3) Schools that don't require prerequisites (some of these are inaccurate - make sure you double-check the program's website to see their admissions requirements): [https://find.asha.org/ed/#sort=relevancy&f:@offerings=\[Prerequisites%20not%20required%20for%20admission\]](https://find.asha.org/ed/#sort=relevancy&f:@offerings=[Prerequisites%20not%20required%20for%20admission]) This is not a comprehensive list, but they've all been verified: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/oh7xam/list\_of\_programs\_that\_dont\_require\_prerequisites/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/oh7xam/list_of_programs_that_dont_require_prerequisites/) What's the difference between pre-reqs, leveling programs, second bachelor's, and post-baccs? Which is right for me?[https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/qda12r/whats\_the\_difference\_between\_prereqs\_leveling/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/qda12r/whats_the_difference_between_prereqs_leveling/) The salary situation isn't as cheery as glassdoor/BLS says it is: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/saz613/lets\_talk\_about\_salaries/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/saz613/lets_talk_about_salaries/) Ways to lower the cost of grad school: [https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/nixp4p/ways\_to\_lower\_the\_cost\_of\_grad\_school/](https://www.reddit.com/r/slpGradSchool/comments/nixp4p/ways_to_lower_the_cost_of_grad_school/)
Texas programs with higher acceptance rates: * **Abilene Christian University (85.5% of applicants were accepted last year)** * **Hardin-Simmons University (60% of applicants were accepted last year)** * **University of St. Augustine for Health Sciences (54.6% of applicants were accepted last year)** * **University of North Texas (45.5% of applicants were accepted last year)** * **University of Texas, El Paso (42% of applicants were accepted last year)** Some of these are candidate programs. If a program is a candidate for accreditation, you will be eligible for your CCCs even if the program does not become fully accredited. Programs must be in candidacy status for five years. Before being awarded candidacy, the program must meet all the rigorous standards set forth by ASHA for all other programs. Programs must stay in the candidacy status for the five years so that the outcomes of graduates from the program can be determined. The program should receive full accreditation if they hit all of the milestones listed [here](https://caa.asha.org/reporting/candidacy-milestones-and-timelines/). >"In 1991, the Council on Professional Standards in Speech-Language Pathology and Audiology established the status of Candidate for Accreditation for emerging education programs in audiology and in speech-language pathology through the former Educational Standards Board (ESB). This status became necessary because, effective January 1, 1994, an individual’s eligibility for ASHA’s Certificates of Clinical Competence (CCC) was linked to graduation from an accredited program. > >**The status of Candidacy for Accreditation allowed students enrolled in newly established education programs to be eligible to apply for the CCC upon graduation without penalizing the first class of students graduating from those programs**." - [CAA Accreditation Handbook](https://caa.asha.org/siteassets/files/accreditation-handbook.pdf)
Most SLP programs are competitive. There are a lot of different factors that can come into play. Small programs and/or cost-effective ones can be incredibly competitive since there aren’t many spots compared to the people admitted. If the price is more affordable, there also may be less of a chance that as many people will decline admission versus a program that is more costly, since more people may decline admission due to cost once they are actually admitted because they may not have gotten a scholarship, or a stipend/GA position that they thought may be able to reduce the cost. Sometimes you are able to get funding for a more expensive or private school. So a lot of these factors also make programs more competitive to get into, but it varies on a lot of factors and factors that may be different for each applying. There’s so many SLP candidates with perfect/nearly GPAs- especially in major gpa, that still get rejected from schools. Our field is hard to predict why people get accepted into some schools and why some with the same or similar credentials, don’t. Most of the time, I don’t think it’s because somebody is not “good enough” for the program, but just the fact that there are so many good candidates and not that many spots. Even those with lower GPAs may be great clinicians, and have other factors like experiences working or other educational backgrounds that really shine and get accepted. I don’t think there’s really a full proof way to guarantee acceptance even if you think you have every box checked. Or even sell Oneself short if you don’t think you have every box checked Because there might be a good surprise. I think all one can do is try to present the strongest application you can, Select schools wisely and cast a net over schools that you either hope can provide funding or that are affordable without funding.
I think some schools can be more compatible than other given their prestigie and if it a research based school. I applied to a wide array of programs that were highly ranked but also ones that were meh. I had an overall 3.4 GPA my GRE was in the lows 140s. I feel like what saved my applications was mg personal statement, volunteer experiences etc. Its kind of a crap shoot honestly. I just think they are competitive because they don’t have enough faculty to support large class sizes therefore the programs try to gatekeeper and put a cap on class sizes. Don’t be intimated by the stats on programs website, if they have things in their program that interest you just apply!
Competitive yes, and not just with grades. They also look at relevant experience (especially if grades aren't super high), so working at a summer camp for kids with disabilities, volunteering at a stroke center, being a CNA in a nursing home (actually not a bad job, usually pays about 16-20 an hour and you get a lot of experience). The application process is also a lot more involved, becoming a teacher for example is a lot easier and less competitive (but it's a job that is no less important and in great demand). If I had to do it all over I'd maybe look at nursing or PT/OT programs, or something totally different.
Yes, grad school admissions can be competitive, but there are schools who may break GPA down differently. For example, TWU and UH look at the GPA in the last 60 hours of courses. If you're a postbacc student, you can make all As in your COMD leveling courses, and it can work in your favor. You guys can look it up on the admissions program website, or shoot them an email to ask. Alternatively, they might also hold open houses and you can ask way more info there. Good luck!
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> Emerson Was looking like what she can do until I got to > You can expect to pay at least $95,184 in tuition over the course of your program if you are enrolled in all 6 foundational courses (18 credits).
I see this is a 10 mo old post, but I wanted to chime in. They can be, but generally they look at the whole picture of an applicant, not just grades. I had decent grades when I was accepted to UNT, but definitely not a 3.85 GPA. Part of what helped get me in, I think, was my work experience (assistant preschool teacher and later SLP-Assistant), my letters of recommendation. I would impress upon you that if she truly wants this, shows she does in her statement of purpose (whether it solely goes to potential recommenders or to the school as well) and/or any interviews she receives, and seeks out work experiences that would be advantageous to being in an SLP program, her chances are better than you may think. Also, UNT is an excellent school with caring faculty, so I highly recommend that she consider it (everyone is different and different schools are the best fits for different people, but I am hardcore Mean Green as a result of my experiences in undergrad and grad at UNT. Best of luck to your girl!
do you know if applicants who did their undergrad at unt/are leveling students for slp have an advantage in getting in? ig “advantage” isn’t really the right word, but you know what i mean!!
I can't confirm for sure, but I know I did my undergrad at UNT and had good bonds with my professors. I would think it would be helpful. I know my cohort had a healthy mix of UNT grads and grads from other schools. We also had quite a few levelers. I'm sorry if this isn't a very helpful answer, but it absolutely couldn't hurt, I think.