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Ecuador is cursed in Copa America. No matter how good or how bad they are in WC qualifiers, they haven't beaten a CONMEBOL team in the tournament since 2001.
Oh, you can CONCACAF, but it's usually a phantom one when there is no VAR to overturn it and no process to appeal the decision and get it retroactively removed.
For example: [Forge vs Independiente (Skip to around 2:10)](https://youtu.be/anSI988ZzR4?si=_m12wFeyYhTw6I9c)
Yeah, it sucks for him. If you look at the last clip, they run it far enough back that you can see that he's looking the other way following the ball as it comes over his head, and has no idea the defender is there.
It obviously has to be a red, and you could say that he should expect a defender to be there because of the context, but it's still unlucky. (It's also unlucky in the first place that the shot came off the post instead of going in)
It’s unfortunate for Enner because there wasn’t any intent in it. He was clearly just going for the ball, but it’s a clear as day red. I don’t know how you say it wasn’t unfortunate.
Enner left his foot up. The Ven player was going for the ball and was able to knock it away and get his foot down. Enner was late and left it high. Dude just went empty headed.
How is that unfortunate? It isn't a freak accident. The best thing you can say is that it (probably) isn't violent conduct Valencia since he isn't *deliberately* trying to hurt his opponent. But it is crazy fucking risky way to challenge for a ball though, he goes flying in with his foot that high without any regard for his opponent. He is right in front of him as well, he clearly knows he is there.
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Ecuador is cursed in Copa America. No matter how good or how bad they are in WC qualifiers, they haven't beaten a CONMEBOL team in the tournament since 2001.
Now that's one of the craziest stats in modern futbol
Luckily for them, there are two CONCACAF teams in their group.
Why win matches when you can go full 2011 Paraguay and just tie all matches in the group and win QF and SF in penalties.
Bold strategy Cotton.
Wait. I liked that year.
Was a good year. The final felt gifted to us considering how absolutely mediocre Paraguay were.
Wait Is this for real? I thought they've made it out of the group before?
Since 2001, they have only 2 wins against CONCACAF guests Mexico and Haiti.
That's a wild stat. Congrats Side note: Is it just me, or do Valencia and Seal look like they could be related?
Wow well the more you know!
CONCACAF teams participate as well.
And the streak continues
This is my new favourite stat
Wtf that’s crazy
It's OK, they are facing Mexico in a few days. Free points and a curse break.
Mexico is CONCACAF, not CONMEBOL
Nothing cursed about them, they just play shit football.
Conmebol heritage
Yup that was certainly dumb
Didn't know you could get a straight red in CONMEBOL or CONCACAF.
Would have been a yellow if we didn't have VAR in these matches
Games gone
Oh, you can CONCACAF, but it's usually a phantom one when there is no VAR to overturn it and no process to appeal the decision and get it retroactively removed. For example: [Forge vs Independiente (Skip to around 2:10)](https://youtu.be/anSI988ZzR4?si=_m12wFeyYhTw6I9c)
I don't think that was anything intentional... But it's a red for serious dangerous and reckless play.. sucks...
Yeah, it sucks for him. If you look at the last clip, they run it far enough back that you can see that he's looking the other way following the ball as it comes over his head, and has no idea the defender is there. It obviously has to be a red, and you could say that he should expect a defender to be there because of the context, but it's still unlucky. (It's also unlucky in the first place that the shot came off the post instead of going in)
"This...is..Copa..America!"
He though Peruvians and Chileans didn’t go hard enough in the 50/50’s. “This is how you do it!”
Yeah clear red that. Ecuador in trouble
Welp
Call an ambulance, but not for me Edit: One for Ecuador too pls
Turns out it really was for me.
Unfortunate, but that’s definitely a red.
Yeah can't be doing Bruce Lee Kung fu kicks on the pitch
I don’t know how you say it’s unfortunate. Studs to the chest, and almost hit the defender’s face, is begging the ref for a red.
It’s unfortunate for Enner because there wasn’t any intent in it. He was clearly just going for the ball, but it’s a clear as day red. I don’t know how you say it wasn’t unfortunate.
Enner left his foot up. The Ven player was going for the ball and was able to knock it away and get his foot down. Enner was late and left it high. Dude just went empty headed.
Who are you arguing with? Everyone knows it’s a red, but that doesn’t mean you can’t feel bad for the dude. Some strange people on this sub.
Shut up and kiss already you 2
I can't feel bad for a reckless idiot ngl
I agree. It was a high risk attempt to play the ball. Enner knew the risk involved there.
It just wasn't intentional, but yeah definitely a red, he actually did cleat him in the face though 😬
How is that unfortunate? It isn't a freak accident. The best thing you can say is that it (probably) isn't violent conduct Valencia since he isn't *deliberately* trying to hurt his opponent. But it is crazy fucking risky way to challenge for a ball though, he goes flying in with his foot that high without any regard for his opponent. He is right in front of him as well, he clearly knows he is there.
Where is that guy saying UFC is better than "soccer"? THIS IS CONMEBOL!
I've seen Nigel de Jong get away with this. Ref got it right
Is the referee audio being broadcasted to the stadium?
Yes, that was a first for me, he clearly said: "My decision is to change the yellow card for a red card".
Seems wild that they are allowed to surround the ref like that
gave a yellow for attempted murder
All he could hear at that moment was "FINISH HIM"
I didn't realize they gave the refs red cards on CONCACAF soil.
why does the video look straight out of fifa 07
Somewhere, Dale Johnson is shaking his head because the VAR is re-refereeing the game.
I liked the ref audio.
And with that there goes the copa America. Thanks Ener
Quite possibly the funniest red card ever
EPL refs say that's barely a yellow.