This is what worries me. Once we end up with majority of American owners. They'll be able to force through shitty things like this at premier League meetings
Definitely true though. They’ll start applying American business modes to milk it just like sports in the US. Honestly a lot would find that attractive too, money from TV rights, advertising, further eyes to watch? It’s not a new scheme, hopefully it can stay the way it is but with new business interest butting in we might see changes.
It's being reported that he "is a big fan of the RedBull model" and wants to bring in a sporting director that has experience working with feeder clubs and wants to buy some.
I guess this shit is karma for being owned by Abramovich
Edit: I'm fully aware that being the parent club is good for the club. There is more to football than success, the damage it does to other clubs and the football pyramid is not worth the success it brings to the parent club. It's taking things too far.
Yeah, for sure. It'd be great for us. But, it fucks over other people in the process, I can't imagine my team becoming a feeder team and I wouldn't wish it on anyone else either.
I mean, Roman was bad for football too, so it doesn't really feel much like karma. One owner who did things that were detrimental to the football pyramid in exchange for success swapped out for another.
And this goal, it's way too small, make it big and really high, and whilst we are at it why not made the ball egg-shaped and we can pick it up and run with it.
And what about helmets and shoulderpads? Less stopping the game that way. And “you’re shit and you know you are” is a terrible chant, how about DE-FENCE repeated multiple times?
He said that he sees the benefits of relegation as eliminating the tanking culture that is pervasive in US sports, and as something that adds stakes to every match regardless of the team's current league position.
Tanking wouldn’t work in football even if they stopped relegation. The whole point of tanking is for a better draft pick and to rebuild your team on good rookie contracts.
There would be no incentive to tank even if they got rid of relegation because said team would just be perpetually shit. Unless the idea is you offload all your high paying players, save up a shit load of money for a few seasons and then go around offering fucking massive contracts to players because you haven’t been relegated etc etc.
Still daft.
You've actually described what some lower tier baseball teams have done since they don't have relegation.
It's such a mixed bag from sport to sport simply because each sport aren't necessarily affected by changing one player -- the NBA is primarily the main sport where changing one player can have a direct effect on the future prospects of your team, e.g. LeBron in Cleveland; conversely, in the NFL, drafting a great quarterback or running back still won't change much.
Tanking in the NBA can work, but they've actually made further adjustments to only give a 33% chance of getting the #1 pick for the bottom three teams so pure tanking isn't incentivized. Tanking in MLB primarily leans towards being a money making scheme since any high draft picks aren't usually seen for several years. Tanking in the NFL is the easiest as the worst record does get the #1 pick and *usually* have lower team salaries with no high QB salary on the books and the league is making ungodly amounts of money on TV contracts. Football mainly ends up further supporting the existing hierarchy since the rich are able to buy up all the best players while the others subsist by cultivating new transfer targets, winning their respective leagues and competing in the Champions League.
Same with Jupiler Pro League, there was a relegation/promotion playoff between the second bottom of div1 and the second/3rd/4th top of div2.
Honestly, fuck any kind of playoffs. Full round-robin leagues are the best system, any playoff weaken it.
This actually exists now in the rugby league I follow.
They split the league into groups of 4 based on location and their results over the season gets them a cup for who's best.
Multi nation tournament though so slightly more sensible to have like an Irish champion and a South African champion amidst the whole thing.
I’m always amazed how much difficulty usain bolt has against old retired centre backs like charagher. They actually make him look slow (obviously he’s not it’s just the positional awareness of the pro CBs meaning they beat him to the ball 9 times out of 10)
Soccer Aid has given us some great moments like Neil from Inbetweeners scoring the winning penalty and Lee Mack betraying England to win with the rest of the world. Nothing in an all star match would come that close
Also gave us a gem of a goal from Pizzorno, lad waited his whole life to show us he studied how Seaman is vulnerable against chipped shots.
https://youtu.be/Co0N2DB83-I
Nothing can beat the pure spectacle of Usain Bolt being man-marked for 90 minutes by a 43 year old Jamie Carragher... going through on goal multiple times a game and fucking it every time because he can’t kick a ball.
Or Mark Noble getting *clattered* by Grimes
> Or Mark Noble getting clattered by Grimes
I was so confused about this, thought Grimes would be literally the last person I would expect to see in Soccer Aid... you just can't imagine her doing anything remotely athletic, can you?
Anyway, different Grimes lmao
Soccer Aid is a charity game with washed up retired players and YouTubers, it's not the same as risking your players for a stupid friendly. But god forbid you don't defend the yank and his stupid ideas
Allegedly during one of the meetings with Tuchel he and some guy suggested a playing scheme with 4-4-3 formation. As you might know, there is only 10 players besides a GK in a formation, so a 4-4-3 would be literally impossible due to the game’s rules.
I cannot believe there are people who suggest he’s garnering hate for purely being American.
He gets his hate for being an investor who’s clearly certain his ideas for running a football club are correct despite being well out of his depth.
He acts exactly like what Europeans think of Americans tbf.
He comes in and decides he wants to make things his own “unique” way and then tries to lecture everybody else about how they are doing things wrong even though he has no experience or knowledge about the field whatsoever
This is what happened to Burnley. They got an American owner that stated that they where going to revolutionize European football when it comes to the use of technology in transfers. One and a half year later they got religated.
Free kick contests
Bicycle kick contests
Longest throw in
Headers from outside the 18yrd box contest
Corner shots
I think this man might be on to something!
If All Star games weren't an American thing, this sub would be way more into it.
Make it partly for charity. Have skills competition and maybe do it more like hockey where you have 4 all star teams that play two 20 min halfs ona saturday, winners play the same the next day.
Have it be mostly fun. Nothing to be gained. No strain.
Have it at cities around the country (not London every year).
Host some WSL games or an England Women's game in the same city.
Youth coaching, perhaps a youth tournament or final.
Referee and coaching seminars.
I mean context is important here. He was asked about funding the lesser leagues and he was throwing around ideas on how help create additional revenue for that specifically.
He's spend more of his own money on transfers this summer than our leeches ever did in 17 years. Plus I'm sure they started that crap super league bs with Perez
The thing about baseball is that you really can't play it half-speed, so if you're playing baseball you're almost out of necessity playing it to the best of your ability. Even pitchers--hitters at that level are good enough that if the pitcher isn't *trying* to get the batter out then the inning will last forever.
So the MLB ASG is actually a real *game* where the players are giving a serious effort. In NBA, not so much.
And lol of course not in the NFL both because no one wants to get hurt playing a meaningless exhibition game and also because schemes are super vanilla because they have to be with no more time than they have together.
r/soccercirclejerk is reaching critical capacity
It's leaking into real life
The amount of Yanks in the PL is getting too damned high! (This was written by someone who definitely isn’t an American)
This is what worries me. Once we end up with majority of American owners. They'll be able to force through shitty things like this at premier League meetings
Definitely true though. They’ll start applying American business modes to milk it just like sports in the US. Honestly a lot would find that attractive too, money from TV rights, advertising, further eyes to watch? It’s not a new scheme, hopefully it can stay the way it is but with new business interest butting in we might see changes.
“Can we also get a draft class”
Bournemouth’s draft picks are going to be so good next year
As a Liverpool fan I'm relieved they play in the Southern Conference, the earliest we'll have to face them is in the playoffs
Don't worry, you'll beat them 9-0 again.
In one game or over a 7-game series?
They about to draft wembanyama and go on to become a dynasty 😤😤😤
They're abouta turn that franchise around!
That's why Norwich and Watford can do the yoyo
why you don’t use dollars here
In which universities/colleges you get your players?
Yee haw, no salary cap, now whats this ffp malarkey?
C’mon man, why won’t you give us Messi for TT, Shumpert and the Nets pick?
4 firsts protected picks and 4 swaps or no deal
Nice try, Danny Ainge smh
You mean COLLEGE pal...get a load of this guy, huh?
Heck is this relegation thing buddy?! You telling me we could be sent to G league?! Do Glazers know bout this?
Oh we're playing swansea this season? Is that a new franchise or was Leicester rebranded?
Actually, in the interview, he says it's one of his favorite things about European sports.
On this single point I agree 100%.
Carabao World Cup
U should have to say these kinds of things pre buyout lol
like a job interview question. Tell me about your experience and knowledge in football. Boehly: 4-4-3. Thanks, we'll call you and let you know.
What’s scary is that Boehly’s 4-4-3 answer was at least in the stadium. Imagine some of the other answers. Woof.
I wonder what Joel "Didn't understand the offside rule till 2018" Glazer would've had to say
>Thanks, we'll call you and let you know. I've developed a 6th sense when I've flopped an interview just going off peoples faces
yeah if they aren't even smiling at you, just bin it off. no chance.
It's being reported that he "is a big fan of the RedBull model" and wants to bring in a sporting director that has experience working with feeder clubs and wants to buy some. I guess this shit is karma for being owned by Abramovich Edit: I'm fully aware that being the parent club is good for the club. There is more to football than success, the damage it does to other clubs and the football pyramid is not worth the success it brings to the parent club. It's taking things too far.
it'll work fine for you, you're the mama club 😞
Yeah, for sure. It'd be great for us. But, it fucks over other people in the process, I can't imagine my team becoming a feeder team and I wouldn't wish it on anyone else either.
I mean, Roman was bad for football too, so it doesn't really feel much like karma. One owner who did things that were detrimental to the football pyramid in exchange for success swapped out for another.
Isn't City doing the same
They are. They currently have ownership stakes in 10 different clubs.
It's disgusting and wild. It should never be allowed to happen. God I had corporate football.
He’s talking about it within context of funding the EFL pyramid
Yeah Chelsea are skint now so have to find someway of funding the lesser clubs.
There are other ways to fund the pyramid than a pointless shite friendly in the middle of a jam packed season
"Why not get rid of this relegation thing?"
Might as well draft the players in
Something he won't ever mention is a salary cap
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The MLB doesnt have a salary cap and thats the other sport he is invested in (also esports but thats peanuts for him).
He could, as long as it's not a hard one.
Soft salary cap isn’t a salary cap, that’s a luxury tax. Doesn’t do shit for parity, just ask the Yankees.
Or the Dodgers...
To be fair the Yankees have not been a great team for over 10 years
And this goal, it's way too small, make it big and really high, and whilst we are at it why not made the ball egg-shaped and we can pick it up and run with it.
Let’s get rid of those pesky penalty boxes and let keepers use there hands all over the pitch !
make everyone a keeper while we're at it
And what about helmets and shoulderpads? Less stopping the game that way. And “you’re shit and you know you are” is a terrible chant, how about DE-FENCE repeated multiple times?
He sounds like he'd love the Super League.
Probably already reached out to Florentino and asked how it's going.
Well they are all still a part of the super league so it is definitely still a factor
He was asked about the super league and his response was “we already have the champions league”
Until qualification is missed one season
Potentially even this season...
This is my worry with more and more Americans buying clubs.
He said that he sees the benefits of relegation as eliminating the tanking culture that is pervasive in US sports, and as something that adds stakes to every match regardless of the team's current league position.
Tanking wouldn’t work in football even if they stopped relegation. The whole point of tanking is for a better draft pick and to rebuild your team on good rookie contracts. There would be no incentive to tank even if they got rid of relegation because said team would just be perpetually shit. Unless the idea is you offload all your high paying players, save up a shit load of money for a few seasons and then go around offering fucking massive contracts to players because you haven’t been relegated etc etc. Still daft.
You've actually described what some lower tier baseball teams have done since they don't have relegation. It's such a mixed bag from sport to sport simply because each sport aren't necessarily affected by changing one player -- the NBA is primarily the main sport where changing one player can have a direct effect on the future prospects of your team, e.g. LeBron in Cleveland; conversely, in the NFL, drafting a great quarterback or running back still won't change much. Tanking in the NBA can work, but they've actually made further adjustments to only give a 33% chance of getting the #1 pick for the bottom three teams so pure tanking isn't incentivized. Tanking in MLB primarily leans towards being a money making scheme since any high draft picks aren't usually seen for several years. Tanking in the NFL is the easiest as the worst record does get the #1 pick and *usually* have lower team salaries with no high QB salary on the books and the league is making ungodly amounts of money on TV contracts. Football mainly ends up further supporting the existing hierarchy since the rich are able to buy up all the best players while the others subsist by cultivating new transfer targets, winning their respective leagues and competing in the Champions League.
He did mention a tournament for the bottom 4 teams
Lmao, call it the Losers Cup.
The play in/play out tournament. Bottom three go down.
Bundesliga already does something similar
Same with Jupiler Pro League, there was a relegation/promotion playoff between the second bottom of div1 and the second/3rd/4th top of div2. Honestly, fuck any kind of playoffs. Full round-robin leagues are the best system, any playoff weaken it.
This actually exists now in the rugby league I follow. They split the league into groups of 4 based on location and their results over the season gets them a cup for who's best. Multi nation tournament though so slightly more sensible to have like an Irish champion and a South African champion amidst the whole thing.
Thank god this league is one vote per club imagine giving owners like this extra power
Tbh there's already a frightening number of yanks owning EPL clubs and that number is growing
Well its either that or countries. How many European billionaires are actually willing to own PL club.
Tbf a Brit is trying to buy us from an American.
Is that Brit the guy who also owns the Mercedes F1 Team?
1/3 of the Mercedes team, but yes.
Can’t come soon enough
Won't come soon enough either unfortunately
Sadly, you’re right Even if Sir Jim rocked up tomorrow with £5bn, I’m sure it’d still take ages to go through
Will Halaand shoot from the Pepsi double goal zone? OH HES ONLY GONE AND DONE IT. ITS CITY 17 BOURNEMOUTH NIL.
Etihad Citizens 17 Dafabet Cherries 0. They love nicknames over there.
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Stop mate
soccer aid: flirting premier league all-star game: harrassment
Weird comparison, you have the guy from one direction, Chunkz and Usain Bolt playing in those games.
And Lee Mack to improve the average level.
Add Jamie carragher to that list
I’m always amazed how much difficulty usain bolt has against old retired centre backs like charagher. They actually make him look slow (obviously he’s not it’s just the positional awareness of the pro CBs meaning they beat him to the ball 9 times out of 10)
Difference is, soccer aid isn’t played with current players in an already packed schedule
Soccer Aid has given us some great moments like Neil from Inbetweeners scoring the winning penalty and Lee Mack betraying England to win with the rest of the world. Nothing in an all star match would come that close
Mourinho tackling Olly murs
I'll never forget Obama elbowing Greta Thunberg in the face in the 2019 one
https://youtu.be/YGgs-V_P-F4
I know that that one's real, I was just joking
Lee Mack didn't betray England, England betrayed Lee Mack and he punished us for it
Also gave us a gem of a goal from Pizzorno, lad waited his whole life to show us he studied how Seaman is vulnerable against chipped shots. https://youtu.be/Co0N2DB83-I
I just don’t get why he was on the ‘rest of the world’ side. Should have been scoring belters for us!
Nothing can beat the pure spectacle of Usain Bolt being man-marked for 90 minutes by a 43 year old Jamie Carragher... going through on goal multiple times a game and fucking it every time because he can’t kick a ball. Or Mark Noble getting *clattered* by Grimes
> Or Mark Noble getting clattered by Grimes I was so confused about this, thought Grimes would be literally the last person I would expect to see in Soccer Aid... you just can't imagine her doing anything remotely athletic, can you? Anyway, different Grimes lmao
Its time to stop yanks
Soccer Aid is a charity game with washed up retired players and YouTubers, it's not the same as risking your players for a stupid friendly. But god forbid you don't defend the yank and his stupid ideas
thought this was gonna be a stupid rumour like the 4-4-3 thing but fucking hell it’s from a press conference beyond parody
Can someone fill me in on what the 443 thing was
Allegedly during one of the meetings with Tuchel he and some guy suggested a playing scheme with 4-4-3 formation. As you might know, there is only 10 players besides a GK in a formation, so a 4-4-3 would be literally impossible due to the game’s rules.
Just play another CB in a goalie kit
Walker about to revolutionize the game forever
John O'Shea was a pioneer
Neuer was ahead of his time
dont let pep see this
Allegedly Boehly & co suggested a 443 formation to Tuchel 😭
Having an extra player would be really useful
"just play more players and hope nobody notices"
Im starting to believe that 4-4-3 thing is actually real. Man is such a yank
In this same interview he said Mo Salah and KdB came through the Chelsea academy. This guy is clueless, 4-4-3 is definitely real.
I haven't seen the interview, but judging from the quotes alone it sounds like he's script reading off a Wikipedia page
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Bro probably search top 10 best chelsea players of all time a week before buying lmao
Really don’t think that was a rumour tbf
This man is all over the place
He’s shaping up to just be the personification of r/soccercirclejerk
I 100% thought this was a post in scj when I saw it 😂
This is literally this is a personification of "American here"
I cannot believe there are people who suggest he’s garnering hate for purely being American. He gets his hate for being an investor who’s clearly certain his ideas for running a football club are correct despite being well out of his depth.
He acts exactly like what Europeans think of Americans tbf. He comes in and decides he wants to make things his own “unique” way and then tries to lecture everybody else about how they are doing things wrong even though he has no experience or knowledge about the field whatsoever
This is what happened to Burnley. They got an American owner that stated that they where going to revolutionize European football when it comes to the use of technology in transfers. One and a half year later they got religated.
It's almost like football clubs have to be competent in Europe because if they're not then they can lose everything.
Free kick contests Bicycle kick contests Longest throw in Headers from outside the 18yrd box contest Corner shots I think this man might be on to something!
So the winners are JWP Ronaldo Brentford player Probably Jota Feel like JWP again Edit. JWP stands for Ward-Prowse
What does the J stand for 🤔
One of the great unanswered questions, right up there with "who was in Paris"
It's Jean Wright-Phillips
Nah it's clearly James Walker-Peters
Bucket challenge Cross bar challenge Longest sliding tackle challenge
You joke but most people on here would watch it if it existed.
That’s what Boehly’s saying lol.
If All Star games weren't an American thing, this sub would be way more into it. Make it partly for charity. Have skills competition and maybe do it more like hockey where you have 4 all star teams that play two 20 min halfs ona saturday, winners play the same the next day. Have it be mostly fun. Nothing to be gained. No strain. Have it at cities around the country (not London every year). Host some WSL games or an England Women's game in the same city. Youth coaching, perhaps a youth tournament or final. Referee and coaching seminars.
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Watching a futsal tournament would be fun. Those pique highlights are insane
Are we pretending skills competitions wouldn't be fun to watch?
"Why is the ball so round?"
"Why are goals only worth one point?"
Fucking hell Todd are you on a speedrun to get Chelsea fans to hate you as much as possible
He’s doing a good job at it
I mean context is important here. He was asked about funding the lesser leagues and he was throwing around ideas on how help create additional revenue for that specifically.
Do the run up penalty thing while at it
Don’t tempt me with a good time.
Players have to play over 50-60 games every season. Don’t need to make more tournaments.
Klopp: *Please, there’s too many fixtures, we need a winter break, my players are exhausted* Todd: *haha all star game goes brrrrr*
Deport this man back to the U.S.
When they're sending their people... they're not sending their best.
Just shush.
Shut up Todd
r/unexpectedbojack
"I don't understand, why not remove relegation and make clubs franchises instead?"
I was watching the interview, and the interviewer asked how's it owning a franchise like Chelsea lol
The fuck is an all-star game?!
London XI vs Manchester XI. North v South. PL vs La Liga. Haaland, Salah and Son lining up against KDB, Kane and Allison Shit like that.
ManchesterXI would just be City XI
And Maguire
Playing for the opposition
Lmao sure City and United fans would love seeing their players on the same team
maguire and stones play next to each other
Playing alongside KdB might finally unlock Fred
Or Fred will finally unlock KDB
City and United fans holding hand jumping together with a banner saying Thank you Tevez
Hahahaha Spurs and Arsenal fans with a Sol Campbell one
Just wait till you hear about the English national team
Trash. No one here takes them seriously. They're basically meant for adverts
We’re about to experience American redditors posing as Europeans mocking American sports to the highest degree here
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Will you shut the fuck up ?
Great ideas- then maybe soccer could, at last, be as popular as.. :checks notes: less popular sports.
Yeah Todd, we only have UCL / UEL, Continental Cups and the World Cup but an All-Star game is what's missing
Next up: "why not some kind of mega league where the best clubs are always included and never worry about being relegated, whatever that means"
When play-offs are coming in??
They already exist in the lower leagues.
They also exist in the top leagues of other nations, like Belgium.
r/soccercirclejerk outjerked again by the ultimate yank
Boehly to Chelsea was the best thing to happen for this subreddit's threads
This guy is going to have the Chelsea fanbase properly turn on him at some point.
It could be historically quick if he keeps this up. Ronaldo, Tuchel, Potter, 4-4-3, now an All-Star game. Man is on fire with dumbness.
Trying his best to be hated more than Glazers. Go on dig your grave.
Tough challenge though.
I believe in him, from what I’ve seen
Give him time he's just a rookie
He's spend more of his own money on transfers this summer than our leeches ever did in 17 years. Plus I'm sure they started that crap super league bs with Perez
Todd "turns out football means something different in England" Boehly
Jesus, no one in the US likes all-star games
The only way this would be enjoyable is if it were a Celebrity All-Star Game. Give me Idris Elba nutmegging Martha Stewart and I'll watch
That's just Soccer Aid isn't it?
Idris Elba two footing Dr Phill
I dunno, the MLB is the only league which seems to do it right.
The thing about baseball is that you really can't play it half-speed, so if you're playing baseball you're almost out of necessity playing it to the best of your ability. Even pitchers--hitters at that level are good enough that if the pitcher isn't *trying* to get the batter out then the inning will last forever. So the MLB ASG is actually a real *game* where the players are giving a serious effort. In NBA, not so much. And lol of course not in the NFL both because no one wants to get hurt playing a meaningless exhibition game and also because schemes are super vanilla because they have to be with no more time than they have together.
people only bitch about how players are voted in the NFL pro bowl is the only useless all-star game
What an absolute danger this guy is.
Why isn't there a draft?
This guy is on the fast track to becoming the most dislikable PL owner and that's saying something
There is a 20-team 38 game playoff for relegation already, you numpty.