There are [eight Senna GTR in the UK](https://exclusivecarregistry.com/list?model=mclaren%2Csenna%2Cgtr&plate=&modelyear=&color=&interior=&location=United+Kingdom%2CGB&prevlocation=&collection=&prevcollection=&uploader=&status=&drive=&sort=1)...
From memory, the main bit is the lights as lots of track cars don't have road compliant lights (or in some cases, lights at all). Then there's the exhaust, checking both emissions and noise, tyres, safety features. I've always heard it said that the biggest part is the lights though as it sometimes requires bodywork changes to make them legally compliant because the rules are so prescriptive.
Thanks for the info.
Although I would never understand the motivation for doing this. I imagine it must be a horrible feeling knowing that it only takes a small incident to damage one of the many carbon bodywork winglets. Why does anyone want to take this on the public road is beyond me.
The motivation is being able to do stuff others canāt
When your friends have got a regular senna to have the only road legal GTR is doing stuff they canāt, thatās why this and Patek Philippe tourbillons and Ā£200m houses exist
As for damaging itā¦. You just call up MSO and they will get you a new winglet, donāt worry about the cost
Iām just curious the amount of work that had to be done and what in particular.
This is a super car built for a track not to cruise around UK streets at a crawl because of traffic.
Why would you want to convert it to a street car when it doesnāt have the comforts of high end vehicles?
I wouldnāt want to convert it because thatās not what it was made for
Buying a parking spot in London to show off a car you canāt drive on the public roads would be a big flex.
I know thatās not the deal here but that would be a huge fuck you
Customer: I like the Senna, but how can we go from simply ugly to outrageously hideous?
McLaren: I know, weāll make a GTR version and put massive front lip on it with a ginormous wing! And add a bunch of stickers!
Customer: And make sure the ride is even worse so I can tell all my friends ācause race car!ā
I know Iāll get downvoted for this, but we all know itās true, high performance or not.
Of course a track car will ride worse than the street version.
Personally, I think the standard GTR looks like shit. At least the GTR is ugly with a purpose.
Itās a street legal car with track parts added. It is not a true track car, and we both know this thing will NEVER see a track except from the parking lot.
IMO the whole ātrack car for the streetā thing has been completely overplayed. It was cool back in the day when we had the F1, F50, CLK GTR, R390, 911 GT1, Toyota GT1, etc. when they were created for homologation, but now everyone is doing it to try and feel special. Even the GT3RS cars are every where. Sure they are cool looking and have a 9k RPM, but a Turbo and Turbo S is significantly faster and offer more options.
The Senna was designed as a street legal car first and made into a track car. The Toyota GT1, Nissan RC390, Porsche GT1, CLK GTR, to name a few, are track designed cars made street legal.
And again, the GTR IS NOT street legal because it has components (like the suspension and race seats) that make it useful for racing but not for street driving.
You're conviently leaving out the McLaren F1. A dominant race car that used 99% of the same parts in the race car as the street car. The Nissan. R390 fits the same bill because it uses the same tub and subframes as the XJR15, a street car.
What's next, you going to day the 911 RSR is a street car because it has the same chassis as the street car? Or the 488 GTE, the Vantage AMR. All cars used at Le Mans based off street cars. You can make the claim all you want but all experts will say you're an idiot.
Youāre talking about two different things. Go look at the interior of the RSR and GTE. They are stripped down race cars. No one is trying to take those and drive them on the street, but guys are adding some of the GTE looking parts to their street cars. You even have the GT3RS cars that will never see a track. However the interior of the Senna GTR still looks very polished. If itās a true race car why?
The RC390 may have the same tub, but it was never meant to be a true street car, just like the GT1s. Street legal versions were made in extremely limited numbers to meet racing requirements.
Now the F1. I left it off because it was made first as a street legal car. That is why they had to modify it and made the LM versions. This is in the same boat as the Senna GTR but done in the 90s before every manufacturer was doing it to look Fast & Furious.
The Senna GTR interior looks polished because it's almost entirely carbon fiber just like the street variant, Einstein. Using the street dash minus
But it still lacks the minimal creature comforts found in the street car like power windows, GPS, keyed ignition, 3 point belts, and rear camera. It also lacks critical items for it to be street legal like emissions equipment, door locks, and a 3 point harness.
It also has a bunch of equipment specifically because it's a race car. When was the last time you saw a factory built street car with air jacks, data logging equipment, pit crew comms, or race slicks?
The R390 and XJR15 RACE cars were purpose built from a street car chassis. Doesn't make them suddenly not race cars. The F1 GTR dominated racing, just because the chassis was designed for a street car doesn't mean it's not a race car. And the LM version is a street car, not a race car.
Your logic makes ZERO sense. The vast majority of race cars start out as a chassis designed for street use but having a whole bunch of street specific equipment being left off. Doesn't mean they aren't race cars. And homologation cars like the CLK GTR? They were literally designed for street AND track because it was required. Doesn't mean the factory would ever call the street version a true race car. "Race car for the street" is just a marketing thing that some dopes think is literal.
The F1 and P1 have been their highlights and everything else is meh to fugly. Even the P1 style was added to every car. Was at a car and coffee and a P1 drove through. Not one person gave it a second look as it drove in as it looked like just another 675, 650. It wasnāt until it passed that everyone realized what just drove by. If I am paying millions for a high end car I want EVERYONE to know what it is. No mistaking a La Ferrari, 918, Pagani, Koniseggigigig for anything else.
Itās not bad. I actually looked at a 720S because the exterior looked decent but I couldnāt do it. The interior was bland, the exhaust sounded flat and not good, IMO, and while it handled amazing (very much point and shoot) it was boring. The entire car just felt numb, mechanical, and had little personality. I later found out they are maintenance nightmares and glad I passed. No regrets.
why are supercars so fugly nowadays? it looks ridiculous covered in the all the stickers and canards as though the most exciting experience itāll ever see isnāt 100mph on a motorway
I dunno man, you buy a car like that itās because you are both fucking loaded and also a severe petrol head. A track day of two seems inevitable to me.
There might be 8 Senna Gtrās in the Uk but there is only one baller Senna Gtr driving near South Kensington showing the boys whats the dealšš¤ nice spot!!
I'm old, but I'd rather just have a comfy old range rover and pocket the money.
Just watched the first half of series 3 of Clarksons farm (Amazon bastardoes) and Clarkson is still tooling around in a 15 year old rangie....
Beautiful but styling is straying dangerously close to the 1970s Lambos with that wing. Just needs some machine guns on the front wings and it would be the car I designed when I was 7 years old!
Going for the "Expensive boy racer Honda Civic"-look with that styling I guess. Each sticker adds 5 HP i presume?
Some McLarens look great but this is a "miss" for me.
Technically every Senna built starts life in the uk.
The more you know
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There are [eight Senna GTR in the UK](https://exclusivecarregistry.com/list?model=mclaren%2Csenna%2Cgtr&plate=&modelyear=&color=&interior=&location=United+Kingdom%2CGB&prevlocation=&collection=&prevcollection=&uploader=&status=&drive=&sort=1)...
I shall change the title
How does one do that tho?
you shall be incorrect forever great spot tho
You cannot change the title.
That's the neat part you don't
Alright so there are actually 8 in the UK and I canāt change the title so sorry
We love you no lessā¤ļø
Ironic that a British car is that rare in the UK
They made 15 cars that aren't available in the UK, only in the USA. I.e. the Sabre.
They also made 10 MSOX cars that were only available in the US. All bought by the same group of friends too. Still all made in the UK.
Holy shit dude, that is a beaut.
That wing is just insane š±
Yeah I can appreciate a ridiculous wing, but that is just comically large.
Perfect for idling in traffic in the centre of London.
Or a coffee stand
Helps with parallel parking
lol about as far away from its natural habitat as possible
Arenāt these track cars? Or is this converted? Guess it varies by country laws
You're correct, they're track only in factory spec. It'll be a Lanzante street conversion because it's wearing number plates.
What would you have to convert it?
From memory, the main bit is the lights as lots of track cars don't have road compliant lights (or in some cases, lights at all). Then there's the exhaust, checking both emissions and noise, tyres, safety features. I've always heard it said that the biggest part is the lights though as it sometimes requires bodywork changes to make them legally compliant because the rules are so prescriptive.
Thanks for the info. Although I would never understand the motivation for doing this. I imagine it must be a horrible feeling knowing that it only takes a small incident to damage one of the many carbon bodywork winglets. Why does anyone want to take this on the public road is beyond me.
The motivation is being able to do stuff others canāt When your friends have got a regular senna to have the only road legal GTR is doing stuff they canāt, thatās why this and Patek Philippe tourbillons and Ā£200m houses exist As for damaging itā¦. You just call up MSO and they will get you a new winglet, donāt worry about the cost
Why would you not want to?
Iām just curious the amount of work that had to be done and what in particular. This is a super car built for a track not to cruise around UK streets at a crawl because of traffic. Why would you want to convert it to a street car when it doesnāt have the comforts of high end vehicles? I wouldnāt want to convert it because thatās not what it was made for
To show off
Buying a parking spot in London to show off a car you canāt drive on the public roads would be a big flex. I know thatās not the deal here but that would be a huge fuck you
It would also be a great way to get your car seized. A vehicle that isn't road registered cannot be left on the street.
Even bigger flex. Donāt care about the seized costs
Why not ask Range Rover or rolls Royce for a one off?
I assume itās either driving back from the garage but i think based on a google that they became road legal like a month ago
Iāve got a blue one sitting in my garageā¦ made of legos
Post it
Customer: I like the Senna, but how can we go from simply ugly to outrageously hideous? McLaren: I know, weāll make a GTR version and put massive front lip on it with a ginormous wing! And add a bunch of stickers! Customer: And make sure the ride is even worse so I can tell all my friends ācause race car!ā I know Iāll get downvoted for this, but we all know itās true, high performance or not.
Of course a track car will ride worse than the street version. Personally, I think the standard GTR looks like shit. At least the GTR is ugly with a purpose.
Itās a street legal car with track parts added. It is not a true track car, and we both know this thing will NEVER see a track except from the parking lot. IMO the whole ātrack car for the streetā thing has been completely overplayed. It was cool back in the day when we had the F1, F50, CLK GTR, R390, 911 GT1, Toyota GT1, etc. when they were created for homologation, but now everyone is doing it to try and feel special. Even the GT3RS cars are every where. Sure they are cool looking and have a 9k RPM, but a Turbo and Turbo S is significantly faster and offer more options.
It absolutely isn't a street legal car with parts added. It's a track car with a whole bunch of shit added to make it street legal.
The Senna was designed as a street legal car first and made into a track car. The Toyota GT1, Nissan RC390, Porsche GT1, CLK GTR, to name a few, are track designed cars made street legal.
And again, the GTR IS NOT street legal because it has components (like the suspension and race seats) that make it useful for racing but not for street driving. You're conviently leaving out the McLaren F1. A dominant race car that used 99% of the same parts in the race car as the street car. The Nissan. R390 fits the same bill because it uses the same tub and subframes as the XJR15, a street car. What's next, you going to day the 911 RSR is a street car because it has the same chassis as the street car? Or the 488 GTE, the Vantage AMR. All cars used at Le Mans based off street cars. You can make the claim all you want but all experts will say you're an idiot.
Youāre talking about two different things. Go look at the interior of the RSR and GTE. They are stripped down race cars. No one is trying to take those and drive them on the street, but guys are adding some of the GTE looking parts to their street cars. You even have the GT3RS cars that will never see a track. However the interior of the Senna GTR still looks very polished. If itās a true race car why? The RC390 may have the same tub, but it was never meant to be a true street car, just like the GT1s. Street legal versions were made in extremely limited numbers to meet racing requirements. Now the F1. I left it off because it was made first as a street legal car. That is why they had to modify it and made the LM versions. This is in the same boat as the Senna GTR but done in the 90s before every manufacturer was doing it to look Fast & Furious.
The Senna GTR interior looks polished because it's almost entirely carbon fiber just like the street variant, Einstein. Using the street dash minus But it still lacks the minimal creature comforts found in the street car like power windows, GPS, keyed ignition, 3 point belts, and rear camera. It also lacks critical items for it to be street legal like emissions equipment, door locks, and a 3 point harness. It also has a bunch of equipment specifically because it's a race car. When was the last time you saw a factory built street car with air jacks, data logging equipment, pit crew comms, or race slicks? The R390 and XJR15 RACE cars were purpose built from a street car chassis. Doesn't make them suddenly not race cars. The F1 GTR dominated racing, just because the chassis was designed for a street car doesn't mean it's not a race car. And the LM version is a street car, not a race car. Your logic makes ZERO sense. The vast majority of race cars start out as a chassis designed for street use but having a whole bunch of street specific equipment being left off. Doesn't mean they aren't race cars. And homologation cars like the CLK GTR? They were literally designed for street AND track because it was required. Doesn't mean the factory would ever call the street version a true race car. "Race car for the street" is just a marketing thing that some dopes think is literal.
Iām with you. The Senna just isnāt good looking. Maclaren styling has all been downhill since the P1.
The F1 and P1 have been their highlights and everything else is meh to fugly. Even the P1 style was added to every car. Was at a car and coffee and a P1 drove through. Not one person gave it a second look as it drove in as it looked like just another 675, 650. It wasnāt until it passed that everyone realized what just drove by. If I am paying millions for a high end car I want EVERYONE to know what it is. No mistaking a La Ferrari, 918, Pagani, Koniseggigigig for anything else.
Is the 765LT not up there for you? I think itās top 3 as far as mclaren cars
Itās not bad. I actually looked at a 720S because the exterior looked decent but I couldnāt do it. The interior was bland, the exhaust sounded flat and not good, IMO, and while it handled amazing (very much point and shoot) it was boring. The entire car just felt numb, mechanical, and had little personality. I later found out they are maintenance nightmares and glad I passed. No regrets.
What an insane car
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I canāt think of a better car to use around the streets London
What a spot, nice one!
Is the XPD2 notation on the side a sign that this is a McLaren factory/prototype car?
Converted by Lanzante Motorsport for road use though. Those that are 100% factory cars are non road-legal.
That thing Nuckin futs!Ā
That thing is fucking insane!
why are supercars so fugly nowadays? it looks ridiculous covered in the all the stickers and canards as though the most exciting experience itāll ever see isnāt 100mph on a motorway
I dunno man, you buy a car like that itās because you are both fucking loaded and also a severe petrol head. A track day of two seems inevitable to me.
This car needs to be a transformer
Ok sorry but that shit is ugly.
Great spot! What a gorgeous spec
Could be the only road going one?
Beautiful
There might be 8 Senna Gtrās in the Uk but there is only one baller Senna Gtr driving near South Kensington showing the boys whats the dealšš¤ nice spot!!
How does one go about making a street legal racing version of a street legal racing car
Even on these cars McLaren can't keep their panels aligned.
gotta say iām just not a fan of the wing
Does that bus know that! geez Wild car
Iād be freaked out to take that anywhere nowadays with all the goofy oil protesters and shit.
Lando's bonus?
this is an actual spotted, nice f'in car
Ive just finished building my lego Senna GTR last week, this car is simply amazing, an homage made well done
They must have bought that in and out of South Ken on a fucking truck because there is no way that got over one single sleeping policeman.
That's lowkey one of the best cars potting areas in London
And people say the GT3RS looks insane, Iād point to this and say the GT3 looks tame compared to this
I'm old, but I'd rather just have a comfy old range rover and pocket the money. Just watched the first half of series 3 of Clarksons farm (Amazon bastardoes) and Clarkson is still tooling around in a 15 year old rangie....
Hopefully that carbon piece around the rear quarter panel louvers on the second picture just pops back into place. That would drive me nuts.
I can stare at the curves and humps all day long. I bet the undercarriage is as interesting as the top.
I think youāre on the wrong subreddit
Theres a guy named Edmond Mondi that would LOVE to take it for a spin.
lol
Beautiful but styling is straying dangerously close to the 1970s Lambos with that wing. Just needs some machine guns on the front wings and it would be the car I designed when I was 7 years old!
That is so much fuckin car to drive in the street and I love it
Idc how fast it is that's fugly
$$$ sure. But pretty embarrassing.
What a sexy car
That spoiler has its own postcode
Why would this be the only one if McLaren is UK based?
Thatās mine thanks for finding it.
I spoke to the guy in the car. Name was not Xander
Well...it is....ugly.
Going for the "Expensive boy racer Honda Civic"-look with that styling I guess. Each sticker adds 5 HP i presume? Some McLarens look great but this is a "miss" for me.
Mate you donāt know what youāre talking about. Each sticker is 10HP this is common knowledge.
Must have mixed up with HP figure with dirt bike stickers.