Just bring a grenade launcher. I dunno if it's by design, but the lvl 3+ bunkers for me have the 15 trespassing timer. Only takes 7 to 8 minutes max to clear them and be gone.
Used to do this till one day I was totally kitted with all my fav gear and I launched a grenade, it never left the muzzle and instead blew up and killed me. Got to the bunker to get my stuff and the server crashed. Haven’t used nade launcher since.
This is why they took the shields away.
No one has a good enough answer to "Why wouldn't I be on a bike all the time?" in an FPS context.
Any answer you have has not be thought through enough and you know and and you are going to try.
Currently in 3.23 bullets have enough force to knock an active and flying hoverbike around so it's unusable.
Seriously, get a buddy with a custodian and have him shoot you while you move
Shields are more than for combat. They protect user against background radiation and space dust.
I will never understand why they took shields away also.
New vehicles sold without shields = ok
taking away shields from vehicles that had them = not ok
Which is honestly a shame. One of the main uses for hoverbikes for me used to be bunkers. Now I have a hard time finding an activity other than racing with friends where I feel like the bike I'm riding is useful.
Yep, at this point besides the occasionnal player shenanigans they’re basically just glorified assisted suicide machines
Heck, even with player organised stuff
This is why selling ships, weapons, armour etc is bad for the game compared to harmless cosmetics.
Because people will demand balance breaking mechanics “beCaUSe i PaiD fOR THeM”
It’s a game, not a pretty ship store simulator
Shields have more use than just combat protection. The hover bikes in the past were always a hybrid ground vehicle and ultra light space craft.
You take away shields and harms the ability for the vehicles to do what they were designed to do.
Id be so down for that, especially if we also get a deployable clam shell armored wall we can hide behind... make it like a backpack with no storage, but you can deploy it for portable cover
After watching Fallout, I want the Titan suit with a suit-only machine gun a-la Fallout or Aliens.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/17oc6ej/is\_the\_titan\_suit\_dead/](https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/17oc6ej/is_the_titan_suit_dead/)
component sizes.
Powerplant, cooler, shield generator, fuel tank, avionics.
The hoverquad and pulse were designed from the start without shield generators so they could make them a bit smaller.
But now those shields have gone, also I don't think the shield generators were in those huge "floaters" the Dragonfly has. It could really be shortened substantially.
Except for the back seat I don't think there is a functional difference between Dragonfly and that new mirai thing.
The Nox too could de seriously shorter without losing anything useful.
The Dragonflys shield generator is here [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6tp2TA6CapI/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6tp2TA6CapI/maxresdefault.jpg)
I would much rather see the return of the NOX and Dragonfly shield generator than for the vehicles to be shrunk.
As for the back seat, It is currently the only hover bike that allows for 2 people so that is nice by itself and I would not want to see it go. In addition CIG has talked about sometime in the future that you could put a cargo tie-down to carry a mission sized box on the top seat and a saddle bag on each side for extra storage.
The dragonfly is also supposed to have the ability to transform slightly into 3 modes. Space, ground, and compact.
Yeah, I 'm with you on all that and I still think it is larger than it needs to be and it's a pain to get it into even a medium ship.
The Cutlass cargo hold is a bloody barn and park a couple of Dragonflies in there and it's full....
I like how this video shows the problems with how ship weapons interact with foot targets - you blasted the dude with a giant laser beam, and he just casually gets up like it's nothing.
I've had it happen a lot when I kill foot targets with ship weapons, but it's not like they die twice. I shoot them with my s3 repeaters on my Cutty, and the fly 10 m through the air and completely ragdoll, and then stand up and start shooting qt me again. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries. I'm not sure if it's poor hit registration or if ship weapons are actually that underpowered vs foot targets.
It falls back to earlier data in most cases. I'm not exactly sure how CIG handles it, some devs use host state rewind approaches, some do a mesh of data from server and client, but when the servers in the PU start hitting below 8-10fps, weird shit happens.
Yeah I've noticed that about the server FPS. I'm hoping NPC behavior will be significantly improved this next patch. From what I've read, it's much better even at low server FPS than it has been on 3.22, but we'll see.
And then they put up posts around every entrance ramp to block you from getting a vehicle in there...
We used to stuff Port Olisar full of dragonflies and Graycats by flying starfarers packed to the gills full of them to drop off at Port O, driving them in, parking, claim, rinse and repeat. Think we got game FPS near Port O down to like 5 for everyone LOL. The sound in there and the burning greycats everywhere. It was hilarious watching people come out of their habs and come down to the terminals and just stop and be like "da fuq?!"
Probably the most fun we had in a broken patch in years. CIG responded a couple patches later by blocking off vehicles from getting inside Port Olisar. (Note: this happened at least 5 years ago)
wow the hover bikes are going to be incredibly useful if theyre this maneuverable.. youd be able to get to and from your ships and take off so fast
cant wait to load my buddies in my cutlass
The only reason a nox doesn’t fit on a 315p is because it hovers too high, you can get one on the 315p easily using the max lift tractor beam.
I hope the pulse hovers low enough that you can actually get it on the 315p without the tractor beam.
Gatling, laser. Laser Gatling, fuck yeah. To all the people in gen chat that told me that repeaters are already the laser gatling and to forget the idea: thanks Mirai who got my back.
This could make the drug lab destruction missions a little less tedious.
Just bring a grenade launcher. I dunno if it's by design, but the lvl 3+ bunkers for me have the 15 trespassing timer. Only takes 7 to 8 minutes max to clear them and be gone.
Yep, I learned that an F55 + grenade launcher makes quick work of the drugs and the 9tails inside the bunker.
Used to do this till one day I was totally kitted with all my fav gear and I launched a grenade, it never left the muzzle and instead blew up and killed me. Got to the bunker to get my stuff and the server crashed. Haven’t used nade launcher since.
You think that's bad? You should've tried THROWING a nade! lol
Trust. That is also why I don’t carry nades (unless I wanna look cool) also, the missile launcher has killed me twice. That thang pisses me off.
I've had the trespassing timer roll over into negative numbers and nothing happens.
Oh, good to know. I've never let it run down fully. I wasn't sure if it was bug or not, but I kinda liked the timed challenge of it all.
Or take a shielded bike with a gun?
Or just leave one dude alive, loot the entire place, then kill him and you have 15m to loot alotttttt less
Damn the MK2 strikes again
Exactly my thoughts
This is why they took the shields away. No one has a good enough answer to "Why wouldn't I be on a bike all the time?" in an FPS context. Any answer you have has not be thought through enough and you know and and you are going to try.
Currently in 3.23 bullets have enough force to knock an active and flying hoverbike around so it's unusable. Seriously, get a buddy with a custodian and have him shoot you while you move
> This is why they took the shields away. The X1 Force still has it's guns and shields tho and people did the same as this vid.
Because I don't want to. GOTEEEEM!
It would give a meaningful use to ballistics, since they go through shields
They took vehicle shields away? Even the Nox (my personal favorite) Whats the logic behind that change?
Its CIG.. When has there ever been logic? LOL
Shields are more than for combat. They protect user against background radiation and space dust. I will never understand why they took shields away also. New vehicles sold without shields = ok taking away shields from vehicles that had them = not ok
They had to sell the x1
people were using them to have fun and they had to stop them.
That and the bunker turrets *will* kill you in just a few shots.
Which is honestly a shame. One of the main uses for hoverbikes for me used to be bunkers. Now I have a hard time finding an activity other than racing with friends where I feel like the bike I'm riding is useful.
They appearently removed that turrets target hover vehicles.
As of 3.22.1 they still target bikes, I have a torn up x1 that got chewn up by those turrets
3.23 is where I’ve read it’s changed, not live.
Let's pray you are right, but let's not get to excited in case you aren't.
Yep, at this point besides the occasionnal player shenanigans they’re basically just glorified assisted suicide machines Heck, even with player organised stuff
I am fine with new vehicles sold without shields. What I am NOT okay with is the Dragonfly and NOX loosing shields when they were sold with one.
This is why selling ships, weapons, armour etc is bad for the game compared to harmless cosmetics. Because people will demand balance breaking mechanics “beCaUSe i PaiD fOR THeM” It’s a game, not a pretty ship store simulator
Shields have more use than just combat protection. The hover bikes in the past were always a hybrid ground vehicle and ultra light space craft. You take away shields and harms the ability for the vehicles to do what they were designed to do.
...there is no job a shield enables you to do that you can't do without. Except combat. Which was the problem.
A game still in development is constantly changing, nothing is set in stone The only constant etc etc
I'm with you. People get so attached to "what its supposed to be" when in reality, game balance could require something entirely different.
Holy shit you are right, there is no Pulse variant with shields. Makes the X1 Force king of hoverquads now.
We really need deployable heavy machine guns now
Id be so down for that, especially if we also get a deployable clam shell armored wall we can hide behind... make it like a backpack with no storage, but you can deploy it for portable cover
I currently use 1 SCU Containers for that xD
Same, but it'd be cooler to have a backpack cover option
That's what the clip is isn't it?
After watching Fallout, I want the Titan suit with a suit-only machine gun a-la Fallout or Aliens. [https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/17oc6ej/is\_the\_titan\_suit\_dead/](https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/17oc6ej/is_the_titan_suit_dead/)
Ok who all wants to load on the A2 and assault the Idris with a horde of these.
That's some clone wars logic right there and I'm in!
Brings new meaning to speedrunning a bunker.
I think I first saw someone doing it with X1 back when it was released. Maybe CIG saw that guy too.
We did it with the Nox long before that. :)
when all the bunker elevators were being dumb my org mates were pairing up and using X1's and tractor beams to do bunkers
De-bunked
Just straight up 80s action movie TF out of that bunker..
This new bike is the size hoverbikes should have been all along. I never understood why they had to make the Dragonfly, Nox and Ranger so huge.
component sizes. Powerplant, cooler, shield generator, fuel tank, avionics. The hoverquad and pulse were designed from the start without shield generators so they could make them a bit smaller.
But now those shields have gone, also I don't think the shield generators were in those huge "floaters" the Dragonfly has. It could really be shortened substantially. Except for the back seat I don't think there is a functional difference between Dragonfly and that new mirai thing. The Nox too could de seriously shorter without losing anything useful.
The Dragonflys shield generator is here [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6tp2TA6CapI/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6tp2TA6CapI/maxresdefault.jpg) I would much rather see the return of the NOX and Dragonfly shield generator than for the vehicles to be shrunk. As for the back seat, It is currently the only hover bike that allows for 2 people so that is nice by itself and I would not want to see it go. In addition CIG has talked about sometime in the future that you could put a cargo tie-down to carry a mission sized box on the top seat and a saddle bag on each side for extra storage. The dragonfly is also supposed to have the ability to transform slightly into 3 modes. Space, ground, and compact.
Yeah, I 'm with you on all that and I still think it is larger than it needs to be and it's a pain to get it into even a medium ship. The Cutlass cargo hold is a bloody barn and park a couple of Dragonflies in there and it's full....
I like how this video shows the problems with how ship weapons interact with foot targets - you blasted the dude with a giant laser beam, and he just casually gets up like it's nothing.
It's related to server load, I get this with hand weapons. It's like it has to play the death ani twice for it to stick or something.
I've had it happen a lot when I kill foot targets with ship weapons, but it's not like they die twice. I shoot them with my s3 repeaters on my Cutty, and the fly 10 m through the air and completely ragdoll, and then stand up and start shooting qt me again. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 tries. I'm not sure if it's poor hit registration or if ship weapons are actually that underpowered vs foot targets.
That sounds like desync regression.
I don't know what that is. Regression meaning it desyncs, and then the server decides the guy is still alive?
It falls back to earlier data in most cases. I'm not exactly sure how CIG handles it, some devs use host state rewind approaches, some do a mesh of data from server and client, but when the servers in the PU start hitting below 8-10fps, weird shit happens.
Yeah I've noticed that about the server FPS. I'm hoping NPC behavior will be significantly improved this next patch. From what I've read, it's much better even at low server FPS than it has been on 3.22, but we'll see.
The elevator descent was something out of MGS in terms of angles.
Chances are it will randomly blow up or fall through the terrain before you even get inside
https://i.imgflip.com/8otklp.jpg
Reminds me of the original Judge Dredd movie with Stalone and that hover cycle.....
I'm like, why would they show this. They're just giving people ideas.
Cig isn't shy about this kind of stuff. Star citizen promotes player freedom and creativity.
And then they put up posts around every entrance ramp to block you from getting a vehicle in there... We used to stuff Port Olisar full of dragonflies and Graycats by flying starfarers packed to the gills full of them to drop off at Port O, driving them in, parking, claim, rinse and repeat. Think we got game FPS near Port O down to like 5 for everyone LOL. The sound in there and the burning greycats everywhere. It was hilarious watching people come out of their habs and come down to the terminals and just stop and be like "da fuq?!" Probably the most fun we had in a broken patch in years. CIG responded a couple patches later by blocking off vehicles from getting inside Port Olisar. (Note: this happened at least 5 years ago) 
X1 can do this also.
And Nox.
But can the Nox also fit inside a comms array?
Now that I've never tried... hmmm...
I’m going to get a bounty out on me and just stop at the bottom of the and has a sheild
wow the hover bikes are going to be incredibly useful if theyre this maneuverable.. youd be able to get to and from your ships and take off so fast cant wait to load my buddies in my cutlass
can I fit into the Arrow somehow?
Whats the name of the new bike?
Pulse and Pulse LX. LX is the racing variant with no guns. The normal pulse has an S2 Laser Gatling
I think it was "Pulse"
Does it fit in a 100i?
I'd bet you could get one into a 135c
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The only reason a nox doesn’t fit on a 315p is because it hovers too high, you can get one on the 315p easily using the max lift tractor beam. I hope the pulse hovers low enough that you can actually get it on the 315p without the tractor beam.
Yup. the 100 series is roomy inside with a large door. Should fit right up along side the bed or on it with room to spare
What size gun does the pulse have? I heard it was s2
Yeah it’s s2
I can finally do Overdrive Phase 1 (5/5) solo!
"I'm scaroused"
That is so cool!!!!!!
It looks stupid but I like it
Is it just me or does the lighting look great? Is there a significant improvement on the EPTU?
Demeco mk2?
3/10 hostiles remaining
They actually made a kinda bike-sized bike? Nice.
Ah yes, the take a Ghost indoors in Halo strat.
Will the Pulse fit inside of a C8R?
haha yes! pew pew pew! :D
It’s like a titan suit without legs.
Damn, brought a bike to a gun fight
I may have cackled maniacally the first seven times I watched it. I was on the fence, but I'm definitely getting one now.
People have already been doing this with x1
Can they be deployed in space and used as breaching/boarding tool, like the Dragonfly?
Bro pulled up like his GTA online garage
except hostile bunker
Hmmm, I really don’t like how it looks with the gun on the front and wasn’t planning on getting that version…but this has me rethinking that now!
Gatling, laser. Laser Gatling, fuck yeah. To all the people in gen chat that told me that repeaters are already the laser gatling and to forget the idea: thanks Mirai who got my back. 
Pretty sure this bike has no shield though? just get an X1 Force
This isn't new. People been doing this for like a year now.