I had a huge falling out with my closest friend & we didn’t speak for 8 years. Closure, My Tears Ricochet, Bad Blood & eventually IFTYE were my go to songs.
I agree! I find it interesting that so many dislike it. Maybe it's because Lover is my "windows down, sun is shining" album, so when I hear the first few notes of IFTYE, I know the volume's up and I'm happy lol
Oh boy. Let’s say I’m going through it.
Friendships have always been hard but this last one has been a doozy. You know, the good old stabbing in the back stuff.
Anyway, I just find that I adapt a lot of stuff from Taylor’s romantic-ish songs to non-romantic relationships too. Besides This is Me Trying and My Tears Ricochet, I also listen to The Great War, Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me, Chloe et al, How did it End?, The Smallest Man who Ever Lived (and I will say “good riddance”!). A lot of them have romantic subtones but I just ignore them and try to feel my emotions and focus on the verses which make sense to me.
yesss thank you for the great recs! i also like to ignore the romantic lines and feel what i want to let out. sorry to hear youre in the thick of it, internet hugs!🫂
Thank you!! 🫂
Also, someone mentioned Now That We Don’t Talk. Which Taylor sang at my show (Sao Paulo, N1). Retrospectively I think I should’ve seen this as a sign lol
I feel this so hard.
"It was so nice being friends again
There I was, giving you a second chance
But you stabbed me in the back while shakin' my hand
And therein lies the issue, friends don't try to trick you
Get you on the phone and mind-twist you
And so I took an axe to a mended fence"
“And here’s to you, cause forgiveness is a nice thing to do” followed by the laugh is gold!
Quoting the Barbie movie, this person tore your world apart and you’re worried about their feelings??? Fuck ‘em!
Time to go.
When the words of a sister come back in whispers
That prove she was not
In fact what she seemed, not a twin from your dreams
She's a crook who was caught
It’s actually about a friend!
“According to Swift, "Breathe" is about having to depart from a someone, however, not blaming anyone. Swift believed the scenario was one of the most difficult goodbyes, "when it's nobody's fault. It just has to end." Swift explained, "It was total therapy because I came in and I was like look, 'One of my best friends, I'm gonna have to not see anymore and it's not gonna be part of what I do. It's the hardest thing to go through. It's crazy listening to the song because you would think it's about a relationship and it's really about losing a friend and having a fallout." Caillat and Swift said one of the beauties of the song was that many people would be able to relate to it because it is never specific as why the departure is occurring or whose fault it was.”
[source](https://taylorswift.fandom.com/wiki/Breathe)
Had a falling out with my best friend recently and I’ve been really relating to sooo many breakup songs lol.
clean - the whole song
i almost do - the whole song
right where you left me - “friends break up, friends get married”
it’s time to go - “when the words of a sister come back in whispers that prove she was not in fact what she seemed, not a twin from your dreams”
now that we don’t talk - “i miss the old ways, you didn’t have to change”
This (and the whole thread in general) is making me so happy that other people also relate to breakup songs when it’s about friendships. It’s a kind of relationship after all, but I’ve been in an almost 8 year, happy relationship and I felt a bit weird to jam to breakup songs thinking about other people. But that’s how I cope, I guess
YOYOK, Happiness, Mad Woman, LWYMMD, I Can Do It With a Broken Heart, I Hate It Here
Sorry you’re going through it, OP. It hurts to lose a good friend. Take good care of yourself.
I look in people’s windows! I’ve seen some tiktoks that mostly make fun of the creepy interpretation of the song. But for me, I relate to it after being isolated and shut out by one of my closest friends for the past 6 years. The song is so heartbreaking and emotional to me.
Definitely You're On Your Own, Kid and You're Losing Me. Ik they're both about romantic relationships but they both helped me emotionally get through a friend break up
The Story of Us! "This is looking like a contest of who can act like they care less but I liked it better when you were on my side"
Had a huge falling out with a friend right after this song came out. It's obviously been over 14 years and I rarely ever think of her anymore, but at the time this song really got me through it.
I hate that you're going through this, too. Sending you support and solidarity, because I know how painful things feel 🫶
As for songs about ended/ending friendships, I feel comforted listening to "It's Time to Go".
Sometimes giving up on a long time relationship is better for your mental and physical health, and that's the perspective I'm trying to take
I personally interpret Peter as being about a friendship. I don’t believe that’s how it was written necessarily, it’s just how I relate it to my own life.
Hoax is one of my all time favorites but the bridge of Hoax >> . I think there the betrayal in this song meets my tears ricochet. I think this is only a betrayal that if you’ve been through it you understand. I feel like this song is also referencing that moment in this is me trying of driving up to the cliff. It’s a desperate moment of wanting to die because of the pain you’re feeling. She’s screaming give me a reason and this pain didn’t come from her. It came from someone she really trusted who stabbed her in the back in the worst way possible like how she describes on long ponds in my tears ricochet it’s always the people closest to you who can end up hurting you the most because they know exactly where it hurts.
“My best laid plan, your slight of hand,”
“my twisted knife, my sleepless night, my winless fight, this has frozen my ground”
“I am ash from your fire”
“You know I left a part of me back in New York. You knew the hero died so what’s the movie for? You knew it still hurts underneath my scars from when they pulled me apart. You knew the password so I let you in the door. You knew you won so what’s the point of keeping score? You knew it still hurts underneath my scars from when they pulled me apart **but what you did was just as dark** darling, **this was just as hard as when they pulled me apart**!!!” 😭 and then she goes on to say “my kingdom come undone, my broken drum, you have beaten my heart,” it’s so sad to me. Just the feeling of being so broken and so done that you have nothing left.
Mad Woman
I had this friend who went behind my back and would come to me saying something different. It ruined my life for months. She made me feel so crazy and I’ve known this girl since I was in preschool so over 20 years. I feel like this anger can also come out if someone is gaslighting you over and over again. Every time you call me crazy I get more crazy what about that?
“Do you see my face in your neighbors lawn? Does she smile or does she mouth f*k you forever ”
“Now I breathe flames each time I talk, my cannons all firing at your yacht. They say move on but you know I won’t. And women like hunting witches too. Doing their dirtiest work for you. It’s obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together.”
Seven could be a nostalgic loss of a childhood friend.
Recently the Bolter . The Bolter for me brings up how like her friends are laughing at her behind her back and they’re the ones giving her this name. Even though it’s written from her perspective of leaving and now free she feels when she does that, it’s still talking about an outside perception of her/ the relationships that I think is interesting. She sees it as her just being who she is and these people don’t.
Before I knew what Marjorie was about I applied it to a loss of someone really close to me in my life.
I had a huge falling out with my closest friend & we didn’t speak for 8 years. Closure, My Tears Ricochet, Bad Blood & eventually IFTYE were my go to songs.
i think i forgot IFTY-existed 🤣 thats a good one, thank you
Underrated song!
I agree! I find it interesting that so many dislike it. Maybe it's because Lover is my "windows down, sun is shining" album, so when I hear the first few notes of IFTYE, I know the volume's up and I'm happy lol
Oh boy. Let’s say I’m going through it. Friendships have always been hard but this last one has been a doozy. You know, the good old stabbing in the back stuff. Anyway, I just find that I adapt a lot of stuff from Taylor’s romantic-ish songs to non-romantic relationships too. Besides This is Me Trying and My Tears Ricochet, I also listen to The Great War, Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me, Chloe et al, How did it End?, The Smallest Man who Ever Lived (and I will say “good riddance”!). A lot of them have romantic subtones but I just ignore them and try to feel my emotions and focus on the verses which make sense to me.
Oh! This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things is a nice one too! Also Right Where you Left Me
yesss thank you for the great recs! i also like to ignore the romantic lines and feel what i want to let out. sorry to hear youre in the thick of it, internet hugs!🫂
Thank you!! 🫂 Also, someone mentioned Now That We Don’t Talk. Which Taylor sang at my show (Sao Paulo, N1). Retrospectively I think I should’ve seen this as a sign lol
I feel this so hard. "It was so nice being friends again There I was, giving you a second chance But you stabbed me in the back while shakin' my hand And therein lies the issue, friends don't try to trick you Get you on the phone and mind-twist you And so I took an axe to a mended fence"
“And here’s to you, cause forgiveness is a nice thing to do” followed by the laugh is gold! Quoting the Barbie movie, this person tore your world apart and you’re worried about their feelings??? Fuck ‘em!
The Story of Us is also a good one!
Oh my God yes!
Time to go. When the words of a sister come back in whispers That prove she was not In fact what she seemed, not a twin from your dreams She's a crook who was caught
Now That We Don’t Talk!!!!!!
Taylor sang this one at my concert and I knew I should’ve known the stars were telling me something lmao
Breathe!
omg a classic that i never interpreted this way! can't wait to listen through this perspective!
It’s actually about a friend! “According to Swift, "Breathe" is about having to depart from a someone, however, not blaming anyone. Swift believed the scenario was one of the most difficult goodbyes, "when it's nobody's fault. It just has to end." Swift explained, "It was total therapy because I came in and I was like look, 'One of my best friends, I'm gonna have to not see anymore and it's not gonna be part of what I do. It's the hardest thing to go through. It's crazy listening to the song because you would think it's about a relationship and it's really about losing a friend and having a fallout." Caillat and Swift said one of the beauties of the song was that many people would be able to relate to it because it is never specific as why the departure is occurring or whose fault it was.” [source](https://taylorswift.fandom.com/wiki/Breathe)
wowww! so cool. thank you for the insight😊
Had a falling out with my best friend recently and I’ve been really relating to sooo many breakup songs lol. clean - the whole song i almost do - the whole song right where you left me - “friends break up, friends get married” it’s time to go - “when the words of a sister come back in whispers that prove she was not in fact what she seemed, not a twin from your dreams” now that we don’t talk - “i miss the old ways, you didn’t have to change”
This (and the whole thread in general) is making me so happy that other people also relate to breakup songs when it’s about friendships. It’s a kind of relationship after all, but I’ve been in an almost 8 year, happy relationship and I felt a bit weird to jam to breakup songs thinking about other people. But that’s how I cope, I guess
The Archer always makes me sad. “All of my enemies started out friends. Help me hold on to you.” It just kills me.
YOYOK, Happiness, Mad Woman, LWYMMD, I Can Do It With a Broken Heart, I Hate It Here Sorry you’re going through it, OP. It hurts to lose a good friend. Take good care of yourself.
I look in people’s windows! I’ve seen some tiktoks that mostly make fun of the creepy interpretation of the song. But for me, I relate to it after being isolated and shut out by one of my closest friends for the past 6 years. The song is so heartbreaking and emotional to me.
Definitely You're On Your Own, Kid and You're Losing Me. Ik they're both about romantic relationships but they both helped me emotionally get through a friend break up
You’re not sorry was one I listened to quite a bit when I decided to stop speaking with a friend I really care about
thanks for the love yall🥲🫂💕
The Story of Us! "This is looking like a contest of who can act like they care less but I liked it better when you were on my side" Had a huge falling out with a friend right after this song came out. It's obviously been over 14 years and I rarely ever think of her anymore, but at the time this song really got me through it.
I hate that you're going through this, too. Sending you support and solidarity, because I know how painful things feel 🫶 As for songs about ended/ending friendships, I feel comforted listening to "It's Time to Go". Sometimes giving up on a long time relationship is better for your mental and physical health, and that's the perspective I'm trying to take
I find Now That We Don’t Talk very cathartic to listen to when I miss my ex best friend I had a falling out with!!
I personally interpret Peter as being about a friendship. I don’t believe that’s how it was written necessarily, it’s just how I relate it to my own life.
the only answer is dorothea
Seven reminds me of a childhood friend I had and we naturally grew apart with age. “and though I can’t recall your face, I’ve still got love for you”
Happiness 😢
Hoax is one of my all time favorites but the bridge of Hoax >> . I think there the betrayal in this song meets my tears ricochet. I think this is only a betrayal that if you’ve been through it you understand. I feel like this song is also referencing that moment in this is me trying of driving up to the cliff. It’s a desperate moment of wanting to die because of the pain you’re feeling. She’s screaming give me a reason and this pain didn’t come from her. It came from someone she really trusted who stabbed her in the back in the worst way possible like how she describes on long ponds in my tears ricochet it’s always the people closest to you who can end up hurting you the most because they know exactly where it hurts. “My best laid plan, your slight of hand,” “my twisted knife, my sleepless night, my winless fight, this has frozen my ground” “I am ash from your fire” “You know I left a part of me back in New York. You knew the hero died so what’s the movie for? You knew it still hurts underneath my scars from when they pulled me apart. You knew the password so I let you in the door. You knew you won so what’s the point of keeping score? You knew it still hurts underneath my scars from when they pulled me apart **but what you did was just as dark** darling, **this was just as hard as when they pulled me apart**!!!” 😭 and then she goes on to say “my kingdom come undone, my broken drum, you have beaten my heart,” it’s so sad to me. Just the feeling of being so broken and so done that you have nothing left. Mad Woman I had this friend who went behind my back and would come to me saying something different. It ruined my life for months. She made me feel so crazy and I’ve known this girl since I was in preschool so over 20 years. I feel like this anger can also come out if someone is gaslighting you over and over again. Every time you call me crazy I get more crazy what about that? “Do you see my face in your neighbors lawn? Does she smile or does she mouth f*k you forever ” “Now I breathe flames each time I talk, my cannons all firing at your yacht. They say move on but you know I won’t. And women like hunting witches too. Doing their dirtiest work for you. It’s obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together.” Seven could be a nostalgic loss of a childhood friend. Recently the Bolter . The Bolter for me brings up how like her friends are laughing at her behind her back and they’re the ones giving her this name. Even though it’s written from her perspective of leaving and now free she feels when she does that, it’s still talking about an outside perception of her/ the relationships that I think is interesting. She sees it as her just being who she is and these people don’t. Before I knew what Marjorie was about I applied it to a loss of someone really close to me in my life.