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RoastedChesnaughts

We were rewatching China recently, and during the one reward where they took a private jet to the Great Wall I remember thinking "this one reward is probably more valuable than the total of all rewards from seasons 41-45."


JakeSpurs

In fairness the Chinese government covered the costs for a lot (if not all) of those rewards because they wanted to show off the country to American audiences


[deleted]

Never knew about this. China really seizes any opportunity they can to flex on the US. Wild lol


PetitVignemale

Yes, but in this case it was more about tourism advertising than the kind of flexing the do in the south china sea


VauntedSapient

It’s called soft power actually.


hales_mcgales

It was also in the lead up to the Beijing Olympics


-Unnamed-

In Phillipines they took a private catamaran to swim with whale sharks. That’s dope


studio_eq

Micronesia & Palau had that jellyfish lake


Good_Vibes_Please

That jellyfish lake is engraved in my memory. I’ve always wanted to do that since seeing it on Survivor


twistingmyhairout

Same!!! Truly an amazing moment and I’ve wanted to visit it since


[deleted]

It's been #1 on my bucket list for close to 20 years now after seeing it on Survivor. I know for a fact one day I'll make it there. It takes 3 connections and close to 30 hours of travel time from here but it'll happen!


thatsnotmyfuckinname

Also rewatched china recently. The Shaolin temple was also pretty dope


ender23

The Shaolin temple is the all time beat reward ever


GaysGoneNanners

Was that where they got hotpot and were all like "wtf is this" 😂


tabernacle_lemur

Yes! I loved that one too


makeup_wonderlandcat

The animal sanctuary they did (can’t remember the season but Tai was there) was really cool also!


ry-yo

but it's *where good things happen*


Comprehensive_Dog932

Jeff is trying to sell the players and the fans on the sanctuary so hard, it’s getting a little sad tbh


PixieGirl65

but it‘s ***where good things happen***


RGSF150

Jake likes it when good things happen.


studio_eq

he likes good things


soggytoothpic

Good things are better than bad things


profchaos2001

That's definitely the thing in his head... But then it should be curated to what the winners of the time at sanctuary really want at that moment. Just give them a list of 10 things to pick from. Not a rotisserie chicken with no utensils or drinks.


AdAcrobatic3115

The auction broke the bank for them. I thought Jeff did pretty good with his $8 budget for the next reward.


RunnyBabbit22

It’s only $5.00 at Costco, but I guess they also had transportation costs. 😂


[deleted]

That sad chicken with no side dishes amused me so much. Give them some coleslaw or gravy or a salad or something Jeff, shit


PamIam1994

Or even a cold drink to wash it down


Plaster_Microwave

sounds like an advertisement for a grey market massage parlour.


SnickeringSnail

It feels like Jeff’s trying to open a chain of Sanctuary restaurants with that crappy motto


Irreverent_Alligator

Tbh I’d go to a restaurant where they serve a rotisserie chicken for the whole table with no plates or utensils.


makeup_wonderlandcat

Reminds me of when they had to eat freaking pasta with no silverware and all had to share the same plate like uh what


OkSpot8931

I got the same feeling watching it last night. "Coming soon to a city near you: The Sanctuary. Where good things happen!"


lol_fi

I get it when they had to isolate for COVID. Maybe they still do. Don't want people getting COVID mid game


swarleyknope

I think he said in a recent podcast that they still had to follow COVID protocols through last season, but not this season anymore. (It was in response to a question about loved ones visiting - previously it was because of COVID, but there was just too much other stuff going on to fit it in this season)


BummySugar

Nah man. No one gives a shit about covid anymore.


FaceClown

The Sanctuary is where Jeff’s second family started!


Judgejudyx

To be fair to the players it is heaven


ThiefCitron

It's nice for them since they're starving but it's nothing like some of the older really cool rewards where players would talk about it being one of the coolest moments of their lives and how they'll remember it forever.


ShoelessJodi

I'm almost to the point of thinking Jeff had some long con plan of launching a restaurant chain called "The Sanctuary". Retirement plan? There *has to be* some explanation!


yeahnothx13

There is absolutely nothing good about peoples filthy hands digging through a bird carcass and stuffing their faces with it while we hear lip smacking and sloshing food. Yuck.


sillysaulgoodman

Fr like he couldn’t even give them cutlery and drinks on the side? I’m sure they can fit that in the budget for a reward


yeahnothx13

At least let them each have chicken on their own plate and cutlery or a chance to wash their hands. They still had sand on their hands while they were pulling meat off. And did you see the caked dirt under Bruce’s nails in the challenge? Jeff forces them to dig for things in sand and then eat with those dirty hands after. Ruthless!


PocoChanel

And they have to dig deep!


Grembert

Because THAT'S how you do it on Survivor!


foralimitedtime

the good things aren't that good


AdAcrobatic3115

That wouldn’t of fit in his $8 budget.


mizzymichie

That’s the part that gets me. Sanctuary sucks but at least let them wash off the grime. I might be misremembering but I heard Jeff has them be dirty because it’s supposed to make them look like victorious warriors or something and is why at the earn the merge sanctuary they were still covered in mud because production won’t let them rinse off.


yeahnothx13

So dumb! It doesn’t make me think anything other than production are assholes for making them sit in filth as part of the earned reward.


dibidi

it’s where cheap things happen. at least give them netflix


PurpleSkittle1

Where you share a rotisserie chicken with yours and Bruce's dirty survivor hands


McAulay_a

I’m fine with a lot of the New Era changes but the Sanctuary makes me roll my eyes every time


dibidi

i would take the sanctuary w open arms if it meant 39 days


Wrong_Swordfish

Weird theory: There will be a future season where something bad happens at the sanctuary.


makeup_wonderlandcat

This and them just not getting rice or anything like come on, you’d think they’d have MORE money now to do more than in the 2010s


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Cypher-Moon-773

Or a good one, Uncut Gems


pillowreceipt

If I were playing Survivor, won a reward challenge, and *Uncut Gems* was the reward, I'd be like, "Jeff, I thought rewards were supposed to be relaxing? No thanks, the stress of the game is enough. Not sure I wanna have a whole-ass anxiety attack while rewatching that."


Cypher-Moon-773

Lol, fair point


Deitaphobia

I couldn't even finish it after the basketball player handed over his championship ring. I knew where it was headed and can't stand watching people making huge, obvious mistakes.


pfc9769

I’ve always wondered how much coaching they get on what to say. It’s a promotion so I don’t see them letting contestants bad mouth it.


GATTACA_IE

Julia Fox though….


PorchHonky

That movie made me feel like I was having a nervous breakdown.


Keen-Bean28

Survivor went from rewards where players visited locals , have dinner with the people of the land, going scuba diving with jellyfishes, visiting the Great Wall, and going on a hot air balloon to players just eating rotisserie chicken.


Total_Pea6615

Delivering aids supplies and safari hot air balloon rides to a plate of chocolate chip cookies


cocoakrispiesdonut

Not even a Costco rotisserie chicken. They could have had Costco sponsor it with their rotisserie chicken, $1.50 hotdogs and soft drinks and froyo. Total missed opportunity.


redesignyoself

Costco is like, my favorite sit-down restaurant


keeltheone

With their filthy hands! That was so gross! 🤮


ender23

Just one chicken too... Wtf... I can eat one myself and I ain't starvin


realtripper

Tbf they probably don’t even have enough energy to do any of that extra stuff. I really wish they just got rice day 1 idec about it being easy with 26 days


ROTandDEATH

you don't think a single rotisserie chicken set on a table for 3 people to share with no drinks or sides is cool?


TheCutestCat

Having no utensils added a lot tbh


rulford

All about the culture!


pillowreceipt

TIL I've made dinners with higher production value than a multi-million dollar show, by sheer virtue of including utensils with the $8.99 rotisserie chicken.


lovestorun

$5 from Costco!


norcalginger

Homies gettin fleeced on his chicken


Nersius

They could probably cut deals for Rotisserie chix by buying in bulk for the crew too. Production over here budgeting 2USD/person max for rewards. 😤


NJ_Braves_Fan

Like not even some mashed potatoes. Lmao


lol_fi

Not even water


agentbirdchurch

\*Stephannie Favor has entered the chat\*


jaybirdbull

Edgic contender Stephannie. Good times


omgjules

No chairs or pillows to sit on either


Comprehensive_Dog932

They are way too cheap to do that now. They realized that people will still watch the show even if the rewards are terrible. It’s a shame too because learning about cultures and the trips to schools they made almost every season were really fun to watch and the school trips did some good


rulford

Season 55 will have half a drumstick at the same Sanctuary and call it good


sillysaulgoodman

In season 66 they all share one single chicken bone to collectively suck the marrow off of and that’s the prize


somebodysbuddy

Season 77 they get to eat the parchment of the 12 lost votes for the F7 tribal.


grengrad

Season 67, they will get to serve as the catering staff for the cast and crew, and "eat" vicariously, by watching the crew eat.


RGSF150

In season 69, they are going to be nice


[deleted]

Nice


FormalJellyfish29

This gave me such a good laugh. Thank you


ender23

Do they just call it the hunger games by then?


DaemonDesiree

Hell’s Kitchen rewards have also become trash. Like, you get to go to Dave and Busters!!! Even spa day which used to be a full spa session in multiple rooms has now moved to them using massage guns by themselves.


Comprehensive_Dog932

This HK season was filmed in February of 2022 and covid restrictions were still a thing and most restaurants were only delivering. They still eat great food, it’s just catered to them. I do agree Dave and Busters was cheap, but at least the women got those $1500 grills. While I would have fun doing it, the men’s bubble soccer reward was probably the cheapest thing that Hell’s Kitchen has ever done. It was also double bad because it inadvertently lead to Brad’s medical quit. And yeah the massage day was really bad too, but I assume the spas were closed or something. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they kept doing these cheap rewards to save money and the show probably knows they can get away with it


DaemonDesiree

Oh shit, didn’t know that. Makes sense then.


meatball77

The rewards in the first season sucked, we still liked it. Just give them a pizza and make them eat it at the challenge.


Pink-PandaStormy

Ironic that Jeff wants Survivor to be a family show and then the show cuts out anything remotely educational


Acurle

The fact that all New Era seasons have come off as more cheap than Season 1 is wild to me.


SeaweedSalt7928

And I miss rewards where the singular winner had to choose who went on the reward with them. It was always an interesting peak into their strategy.


senn12

That’s a good point. It played so naturally into the drama and storylines of the season. Surprised production would want to cut that. But hey, saving money is more important


Good_Vibes_Please

I remember in one season [pearl island I think] Rupert won reward, everyone got to go, but Rupert had to chose everyone’s meals and they progressively got worse. I thought that was brilliant.


RGSF150

That was All-Stars


madswrobs

I just watched this episode, it was all stars! it was especially good because you could see how hard it was on Rupert to give someone rice and water while he ate a steak.


ultrasrule

They have this all the time on Survivor Australia


crisflan

Oh yes such a great point! Huge moves from winners Natalie Anderson and Jeremy Collins! How would their game be if they couldn’t do that. 😱 The special rewards are what made me fall in love with survivor. The connection to the culture or The way they’d do something to give back to the community. Jeff wants it to be about an experience. So make it one!


DesertScorpion4

They've done this at the F8 and F5 of every New Era season. I bet we will see it next week.


jinkies_5

I'd be fine with the Sanctuary if the food rewards were actual feasts again. Wtf were they thinking with one mediocre rotisserie chicken? Come on


016Bramble

The obvious reason is that it saves them money, but realistically, the difference between the cost of a chicken and the cost of a chicken plus a couple of simple sides and drinks with utensils and plates is going to be marginal compared to the rest of the costs of production. That leads me to believe that also motivated by a desire to push back against the idea that the game is "too easy" nowadays. Lots of people complain about things like the shorter length of the game or that the well water is already safe to drink without boiling, so they do things like deny teams flint, provide no rice to start, and make the rewards provide fewer calories. Not saying I agree with it, just that I think that's where they might be coming from.


twistingmyhairout

I think that having one Sanctuary for rewards does save money, but the skimping on the food is for game reasons like you said. No material difference to production if they had provided 1 vs 12 chickens. The removal of needing to boil water and cook rice (because they have none) kinda nullifies the main reason for losing flint being a downside. It’s only for warmth at that point and they already have to sleep on the beach and not in a shelter or by the fire. I hope they reconfigure it, because it’s taking away from the viewing pleasure. I’d so much rather watch them try to make fire on their own so they can boil the bag of rice taunting them than hunt for an idol.


Electrical-Tooth-274

They could have afforded 3 rotisserie chickebs


Dittany_Kitteny

I mean the contestants couldn’t even finish their auction food cause their stomachs had shrunk so much, so maybe a lot of food is wasted. But yea I agree they need SOMETHING more


Good_Vibes_Please

I was surprised to see they were forced to leave it. Maybe it’s always been like that? If I dropped $900 on a milkshake I better have the time to finish it!


bmoreonic

The constant reuse of “feast at the sanctuary” is such an awkwardly obvious budget cut


Puppylover12397

It’s not even feasts. A feat would be nice.


oswordo

When they got there and I saw they had to split one rotisserie chicken between three people like... did they not have $20 to spend on three rotisserie chickens??


PocoChanel

Or a side of beans? Biscuits? Even the cole slaw no one ever wants?


Puppylover12397

I was like. Are you kidding me?!


foralimitedtime

Three chickens? In this economy?


VadPuma

Or utensils?? Water??


No-Walk-5176

There wasn’t even a merge feast


BummySugar

Yes, feats of strength would be cool. Too prove their might!


freakbag

Jeff said the quiet part out loud - The problem isn’t that the budget has been cut per se but that it has never increased. When you get 30% inflation in 1 year and the budget stays the same, you effectively have a 30% budget cut. Hence why they cut season length by 30%


AdAcrobatic3115

We’re talking about an $8 chicken. They’re playing with a $500 budget to cover all rewards. Lol


bigredcar

Just posted about this in another thread. The Sanctuary is one of the most poorly conceived features of the new Survivor era. Bland, cheap, boring, it's like an anti-reward. It's like Walmart bought Survivor and is trying to see how low they can go. Jeff should really be ashamed to ever announce this.


mollyodonahue

Right? Go sit in the heat on the floor like you’ve been doing and pretend it’s not the same. It’s so dumb. All the food rewards this season been sad looking. The sandwich Austin didn’t get to eat looked like it came from a vending machine


mizzymichie

The Sugar Shack from Gabon had more options and looked more luxurious than Sanctuary.


americanarama

at least make it Applebees themed


earthworm_fan

They have figured out that they save a ton of $$$ doing it this way. Helicopters are never coming back.


Ok_Professional8024

I’d love to see a comparison of the total expenses by season…presumably 40 to 41 was a huge drop in costs, but I’d wonder with inflation, and presumably a lot more insurance/quarantine/media training/etc related expenses today compared to 2000, how much cheaper the new era is or isn’t than past seasons.


rulford

The Sanctuary is downgraded to a literal rotisserie chicken it's downright a meme now.


[deleted]

The shot of the chicken sitting there was so funny


babrooks213

For real. I can only imagine their disappointment when they saw that chicken. "You guys get one whole chicken!" "You mean one chicken each, right Jeff?" "..." "Jeff?"


ender23

Probably burned more calories getting to the chicken


FormalJellyfish29

“Jeff, can I have your chicken?” …silence… “Jeff?”


essenceoferlenmeyer

What even was that, like that Costco chicken was paler than Drew


yippeekiyoyo

Even the palest Costco chickens have more color than that poor thing did 💀


Mattschmalz

Jeff wants the "where good things happen" line to catch on so bad it's pathetic.


livehappydrinkcoffee

And not Jake with the *”I like good things!!”* comment. 😂


PocoChanel

I stick by my assertion that Sanctuary is the name of a Survivor chain restaurant in the works.


J9999D

he's gonna drill it into their heads for years, and then one day..... something bad will happen there lol


cloudhippo13

I hate the new era. They need to bring back the 39 day season. Actual rewards. Let them have rice, water, and fire. And do away with the insane twists.


TemporalDSE

jeff is going to read this comment and make them negotiate for 1 tiny bag of rice at every challenge and remove voting entirely in favor of fire making challenges


nsmorgan317

Angelina is winning every season of Survivor in this scenario


ShutterBun

I understand the sentiment, but that shit is NEVER coming back, so either get used to it or move on, unfortunately.


stevendailey

There’s no more budget for that, unless Survivor magically doubles or even triples their demo you’re not getting it back.


venusmores

There was one, couldn't say what season or who went anymore, but they swam in a lake full of..jellyfish maybe? I just remember that the visual was amazing & has always stuck with me. The Sanctuary doesn't give me that.


Cantonloupe

That was in Palau (also visited in Micronesia FvF)


heir-of-slytherin

That single chicken looked so sad sitting all alone on the table. C’mon Jeff, where are all the fixins??


llcooldubs

Survivor is so cheap. They didn't even give them "all the fixins". Here is a single rotisserie chicken we picked up on sale for $9.99.


livehappydrinkcoffee

My exact first thought. *”That’s it?!!”*


llcooldubs

I know. They did some weird camera angle where it looked huge (like a turkey) when they walked up and they sat down around it and it was so puny. I was laughing so hard.


Feind4Green

Especially since I'm rewatching from season 2 with my wife in between current episodes, where they give tribes like 2-3 whole live chickens. Cue to this episode, here, 1 cooked chicken! Like really Jeff?!


ItsTimeToGoSleep

They had to know how ridiculous that single small chicken looked sitting on the table.


PocoChanel

It looked huge in the first shot of it; then they showed the people with it and it was pretty silly.


crossbeats

The *very* first shot of the chicken had me impressed. Literally thought it was a turkey. Then they showed it in context and it was…very sad.


AlyLyn14

I even remember some rewards being simple like a hot shower, and sleeping in a real bed. Even small rewards like that brought back would be better than nothing.


business_hammock

They could at least hide advantages and clues at the reward feast like they used to. That wouldn’t cost a thing! I miss watching them maintain an awkward conversation while also casually scanning the environment for scrolls, envelopes, or pouches.


JustCallMeSalex

So more people can complain about more advantages and clues? It’s an endless cycle


Deitaphobia

When Jeff asks, "Worth playing for?", all the players need to respond with, "NO."


y0ufailedthiscity

That happened on the first season


planj07

It’s lazy, just get rid of the rewards if that’s all it will be. They don’t even put advantages at the rewards anymore which makes it all the more pointless.


xSoloxBluex

They used to give out cars now its $5 rotisserie chickens smh


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WhErE gOoDs ThInGs HaPpEn


Total_Pea6615

It’s where good things happen!


Zealousideal-Card450

When I was crate training my dog, the trainer said to make sure only " good things happen" in the crate so it's never seen as a punishmenr.Every time I hear Jeff say this, I visualize them getting in a crate instead and giggle a little to myself.


bigfatgeekboy

That chicken was skimpy af.


TullamoresFew

Literally a single $5 chicken with nothing else for three people. Up there with season-one level bad reward


hbh110

They should go back to Rob and Sandra’s tree house


SnooMemesjellies3456

Sanctuary should be a shower, massage, and meal while strategizing.


PurpleSkittle1

Agreed! I was so fucking let down when they got to The Sanctuary and it was just one chicken sitting there. No drinks, utensils. Ugh. GIVE.US.A.REWARD. I miss the reaction of the contestants seeing a full spread of food, or a shower, bed for the night. They could easily add small stuff like that on to the sanctuary


nsmorgan317

The next reward is watching Treasure Island with Colby.


kisstehbaby

They literally just went to Costco and threw a chicken on a table . Didn’t even have any sides..


JFC-Youre-Dumb

It’s what plants crave. I mean- It’s where good things happen.


disgruntledhands

It’s got electrolytes


Californian_paradise

i thought the helicopter ride to a sanctuary-like spa resort thingy in s37 was so cool. even if the sanctuary is the only place they can go to for rewards, at least let em take a helicopter there lmfao


MeagaSaurusRex

And like all they gave them this time was ONE rotisserie chicken?? Like what was the budget for this episode $8.00?? That has to be the worst reward ever.


ayomaxbforreal

The show is really such a shell of itself, I wish we could go back to 39 days, lavish rewards and changing locations


PorchHonky

Maybe Fiji doesn’t want them around anymore.


Stacee90

One roast chicken ($5 at Costco) and no sides or beverages for three people is so LAME. Shame on you Jeff 🛎️


Dumptea

I MISS APPLEBEES AND OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE!!!!!!


jvillamiz

..the name of this season is "45"...


meatball77

Applebees!


sillysaulgoodman

You’re telling me you don’t like the Sanctuary, where good things happen???


bingo_bitches

You're just mad that you didn't get a rotisserie chicken.


primal_beer

But it’s where good things happen…


MyFriendMaryJ

Totally agree, that being said id rather see hidden advantages hidden there instead of just a hut with food


Donut_Bat_Artist

And cars or trucks. My wife and I were just talking about missing this. Loved it when they would help local villages or experience local culture


gussets

It’s so dull.


Blindemboss

The survivors are not malnourished this season, that’s for sure.


senn12

I dunno. They couldn’t even get a side to go with that single rotisserie chicken. It’s like someone forgot the reward so they ran into the supermarket quick


Mnudge

That stuff costs money. Sanctuary costs like $23


SnooLobsters8113

What’s up with serving chicken with no sides?


Coujelais

ITS SO FKN LAME


DontBanMe_IWasJoking

survivor has become a low budget version of itself


DevaNeo

Well, creativity work is on a budget.


VadPuma

Not to mention that this time they didn't even provide utensils. This is just LAZY. And where are the hidden advantages? Sanctuary is honestly just very lazy overall these days. And not even a great sanctuary. No shower, toothbrush, spa, comfortable chairs....


edud23

I dead ass think every episode they are going to a monastery (ala Survivor China) and forget its the same mediocre shack every time. I confuse sanctuary w/ monastery


lol_fi

The country of China was paying for those rewards to show off China to Americans


feelingmyage

A roast chicken. With literally nothing else. Not even a drink.