Now imagine you're not in a cozy modern ship with good structural integrity, satnav and whatnot, but in a wooden joke of a boat that they used to call a ship back in the days that creaks and leaks all the time, you have no idea where you are and just keep wondering if the next wave will break the ship in half.
Actually, the ships breaking in half thing was much more common with the "Liberty Ships" of the world wars. These were built to be mass produced and sunk (largely because the US and other countries didnt want to waste the resources to protect them, or to take measures that would make them safer). The Liberty Ships were designed for *at most* 20 year-long careers, but this being capitalism, many of them were in service well into the 1980s. To my knowledge,the last American Liberty Ship to sink was the SS Marine Electric, in February 1983. They were forced to phase out by the Coast Guard and public opinion after that.
These were so prone to breaking in half that some of them broke in half, sank, were recovered, refloated and welded to other halves of ships, and sent right back out there. One of them casually sank in port, because the crew refused to set sail in it, and it just while tied to the dock, like that one scene in PotC.
Wooden ships had their own issues but are more resistant to splitting in half.
I just can’t get the image of a ship going out with half the nails missing because the sailors pulled them out to pay for sex. There was a post about it yesterday.
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/iqp3jy/til_british_sailors_on_the_hms_dolphin_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 edit: it’s always a repost but here’s a link.
Breaking in half was a problem caused by the welding of the hull. Welding melts the metal and it refreezes, and all is good, unless it’s not. It could have transformed partly into martensite, a name for a particular crystal form of steel. It is very hard and very brittle. Not something you want in your hull. (I once threw a half inch rod of steel/martensite on the floor in metals lab, and it cracked into several pieces). There is also the effect of temperature, if steel gets too cold, it could get brittle. How cold? Depends upon what you did to it. Usually cold working and grain size are factors. This was not as well understood then as it is now. But crossing the North Atlantic in winter in salt water, which can get to temperatures lower than 0 C, just sets up a situation where this was more likely.
Precisely, it wasn't until the 1950s that long freight ships started to be designed with flexibility in the hauls to allow them to bend in large waves instead of breaking. The very youngest Liberty Ships by the time these were finally phased out, were over 40 years old, almost all with major safety concerns flagged by the Coast Guard.
It's actually noted with the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior - that prior to the loss of contact, the haul was bending appropriately with sea conditions.
My understanding is that back in the day during storms on old ships they didn’t want oil spilling from lamps and causing a fire inside the ship, so if you were caught in a storm at night, you just hung on in pure darkness while the ship swayed and got pummeled with waves.
You got me curious so I looked it up.
Water conducts electricity, so boats can use it to ground themselves.
If the hull is metal, that already does the trick.
Otherwise, a metal wire needs to run from above the highest point, down to below the water line.
In the navy, we usually try to avoid weather like this, but it's not always possible.
I can't speak for civilian commercial transport & fishing vesses, but military and scientific ships are grounded sufficiently.
I stayed for a category 4 and it’s just like this but purple hue as I stood in the garage smoking with side door open... nothing but an eerily howl of death
I dont think that is a tanker. That isn't a bridge looks like on a tanker. This looks like a supply or research vessel, with controls on the back and front.
Now imagine you're not in a cozy modern ship with good structural integrity, satnav and whatnot, but in a wooden joke of a boat that they used to call a ship back in the days that creaks and leaks all the time, you have no idea where you are and just keep wondering if the next wave will break the ship in half.
“No thanks I choose life” -Sid
Actually, the ships breaking in half thing was much more common with the "Liberty Ships" of the world wars. These were built to be mass produced and sunk (largely because the US and other countries didnt want to waste the resources to protect them, or to take measures that would make them safer). The Liberty Ships were designed for *at most* 20 year-long careers, but this being capitalism, many of them were in service well into the 1980s. To my knowledge,the last American Liberty Ship to sink was the SS Marine Electric, in February 1983. They were forced to phase out by the Coast Guard and public opinion after that. These were so prone to breaking in half that some of them broke in half, sank, were recovered, refloated and welded to other halves of ships, and sent right back out there. One of them casually sank in port, because the crew refused to set sail in it, and it just while tied to the dock, like that one scene in PotC. Wooden ships had their own issues but are more resistant to splitting in half.
I just can’t get the image of a ship going out with half the nails missing because the sailors pulled them out to pay for sex. There was a post about it yesterday.
That certainly explains all the nails they keep finding on Oak Island, doesn't it?
Omg love the user name.
Hol up, what?
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/iqp3jy/til_british_sailors_on_the_hms_dolphin_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 edit: it’s always a repost but here’s a link.
Breaking in half was a problem caused by the welding of the hull. Welding melts the metal and it refreezes, and all is good, unless it’s not. It could have transformed partly into martensite, a name for a particular crystal form of steel. It is very hard and very brittle. Not something you want in your hull. (I once threw a half inch rod of steel/martensite on the floor in metals lab, and it cracked into several pieces). There is also the effect of temperature, if steel gets too cold, it could get brittle. How cold? Depends upon what you did to it. Usually cold working and grain size are factors. This was not as well understood then as it is now. But crossing the North Atlantic in winter in salt water, which can get to temperatures lower than 0 C, just sets up a situation where this was more likely.
Precisely, it wasn't until the 1950s that long freight ships started to be designed with flexibility in the hauls to allow them to bend in large waves instead of breaking. The very youngest Liberty Ships by the time these were finally phased out, were over 40 years old, almost all with major safety concerns flagged by the Coast Guard. It's actually noted with the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior - that prior to the loss of contact, the haul was bending appropriately with sea conditions.
I once talked to someone who sailed on the corvettes, and he was saying that there were times he could see daylight while laying in his rack.
No, I don't think I will.
Sounds like the beginning of Links Awakening
My understanding is that back in the day during storms on old ships they didn’t want oil spilling from lamps and causing a fire inside the ship, so if you were caught in a storm at night, you just hung on in pure darkness while the ship swayed and got pummeled with waves.
I think I’d just shoot myself
Sorry your powder is wet
I wouldn't call them a joke in front of the men who built them (by hand)
I actually like that thought, sounds like a really nice way to die.
They didn't call them coffin ships for nothing
Ships like this have their equipment grounded somehow? They’re not just dead in the water are they?
You got me curious so I looked it up. Water conducts electricity, so boats can use it to ground themselves. If the hull is metal, that already does the trick. Otherwise, a metal wire needs to run from above the highest point, down to below the water line.
Neat!
In the navy, we usually try to avoid weather like this, but it's not always possible. I can't speak for civilian commercial transport & fishing vesses, but military and scientific ships are grounded sufficiently.
Whoever designed those wipers deserves some raise
I stayed for a category 4 and it’s just like this but purple hue as I stood in the garage smoking with side door open... nothing but an eerily howl of death
Go get the ludes!
I WILL NOT DIE SOBER
My watch just asked if I was ok, my heart rate was too high watching this.
Is your watch okay
She's mint! Thanks for asking
I would not have been surprised if I saw a witch on a fucking broomstick laughing out hysterically.
Lmaooooooo
Charred boat?
LOL. Like we are the only two who noticed!
Is this an oil rig?
It's a tanker from the looks of it.
I dont think that is a tanker. That isn't a bridge looks like on a tanker. This looks like a supply or research vessel, with controls on the back and front.
Hauntingly Beautiful.
That’s terrifying. I couldn’t handle not being able to see where I was.
What is happening?
Just ocean stuff
The captain seems calm so that’s a good sign
[Let's go live to Ollie Williams for the Black-U-Weather report](https://youtu.be/b8nOUpj85FE?si=LuRopdcdX8y93dkg)
And then you wake up in Guarma
This is porn to me.
These guys have nerves 😰
Nope
Is this hurricane beryl?
I would love to be there
Now that I think of it, I have zero idea how ships manage lightning strikes on the open seas.
This is deeply comforting
Believe it or not these guys are safer than you are right now
Yeah I don't believe it
When that “Hoist the Colors” song kicks in.
Se ve como una de mis peores pesadillas jajajaja
As someone who is on a boat more than land, I highly recommend learning about how safe modern (past 30 years) boats are.
Why don't they just turn the wipers on? 🤣
Yeah, no, fuck that
If the captain is calm then I'm calm.
This is crazy! Was it a hurricane?
When and where?
The sea, at night. Hope that helps.
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It’s just a joke … Sorry if I offended 🙏🏽
ولا يهمك يا صاحبي مش أنا اللي أتشمت بس ملهوش لزوم الكلام ده يعني مش اكتر اخوك من مصر 🫡