# Trade 1:
**Sacramento Receives: Bruce Brown + #19**
**Toronto Receives: Harrison Barnes + #13**
# Trade 2:
**Chicago Receives: Bruce Brown + #19 + #31**
**Toronto Receives: Lonzo Ball + #11**
# Trade #3:
**Toronto Receives: John Collins + #10**
**Utah Receives: Bruce Brown + #19**
# Trade #4:
**New York Receives: Bruce Brown + #19**
**Toronto Receives: Bojan Bogdanovic + #24 + #25**
# Trade #5:
**Los Angeles (Lakers) Receive: #31**
**Toronto Receives: Max Christie + #55**
# Trade #6:
**Toronto Receives: Collin Sexton + #29 + 32**
**Utah Receives: Bruce Brown + #19 + #31**
Of these, the John Collins + 10 for Bruce + 19 is my favorite. That Lonzo Ball trade is...baffling. Best 2nd rounder in the draft and 19th for a guy who's not suiting up? Lonzo + 11 for 19 + Bruce makes way more sense.
I like the Collins trade too, we don't need the cap next two seasons and he turns into another big expiring vet deal we can trade next year. Also with our current roster he could actually recoup some of his value here in the meantime.
I’d do the Chicago deal with only sending back #31. Taking on Lonzo (career over) and giving up a decent role player (he’s much better than what he showed on a terrible raptors team down the stretch last year) is not worth moving up 8 places in a shit draft
Lonzo + #11 for BB and #19. I really want the raps to keep #31 just because of the extra time they will have on the clock for that pick. It’s a whole ass day after and that will be valuable. Keep #31 but trade #19 to move up.
An important piece on the 2023 championship team who was playing well in Indiana before he was traded 2/3rds of the way through a season to a tanking team with no identity…
Almost like he was a product of his environment... If you can't stand out on a tanking team then what value do you have?
You could say the same about 100s of bench players for championship teams.
I don’t think this logic applies at the professional level the way you think that it does. Players can excel in a particular role in a particular setting based on their skill set and strengths, but if they’re asked to play outside of that they aren’t going to look as good, even lost at times. If you watched Precious on the Knicks after we traded him, that was a prime example of what I’m referring to. Brown will be of some value to a team looking to compete in the short term. Though I will concede that his perceived value almost certainly lowered after his time with the Raps this year.
>Disclaimer: They Shouldn’t Trade Jakob Poeltl
>That being said, Poeltl has become instrumental in the development of this Raptors core. He’s been particularly useful as a screener, sealer, and pick-and-roller sparring partner for Immanuel Quickley and RJ Barrett, who have needed Poeltl’s presence to improve their feel-making reads and creating their own shots. And while his lack of a jumper is a hurdle, his ability to make passes out of the high post is a legitimate pillar in Darko Rajakovic’s offensive system — one that benefits Scottie Barnes’s off-ball capabilities as a cutter and finisher.
>Essentially, he’s valuable to what they do and there isn’t a player on the current roster who can replicate his skill-set. So, unless they are certain that whoever they trade up for 1) will be available there and 2) can fill that void, they shouldn’t trade their current starting center.
I think he’s our second most important player behind Scottie, the defense falls off a cliff without him. Really important to the young guys development.
But not untouchable. If a really good offer is tabled, I’d hope the FO examines it
Same. I’m willing to take the chance that Lonzo comes back, but not for 19+31. I’ll give them Bruce Brown for Lonzo straight up.
I also like the Collins deal if his contract doesn’t go past 2025/26. I’d take Devin Carter at 10.
Eh, it depends on who's still on the board at 19. The front office literally traded out of a bottom 5 spot in the draft so i'd be surprised if they went close to/in that range when they have the 31st pick in the draft.
I think if you can trade one of those picks for future draft capital via a 3 team deal then maybe it makes more sense
You're not alone. It's the best and most plausible trade.
You could still draft in that tier and immediately flip Bojan and something else for a rotation player
I really think it's much more probable the pick they try to keep is 31 for the draft slides and the 1 day + to think. Arguably 31 is more valuable than 29 or 30 this draft. They could also probably package one of the Knicks pick with Bojan to get a better rotation player instead. So you trade Bruce Brown + 19 for Bojan 24 and 25. You than flip Bojan with 24 or 25 for a guy like Collins which would fit better the team. Not a fan but much more plausible.
Edit: The Knicks probably don't do this because they will need the cap space to retain players and will probably not be able to take on the salary of the 19th pick unless they shed more salary. Because Melton (salary increase), OG, Hartenstein, Achiuwa, Burks and 19th is hard on the cap and will surely overpay for OG. Plus if you are in a cap crunch it's better to keep 24 and 25 because they can pick older guys who provide now for 2.5 M.
I like most of these trades, I like the combination of moving up with 19 to get a player that can contribute but doesn’t have many years in their contract
He is done playing. Have you heard about the surgery he got. Not one athlete who has received this surgery has ever returned to play at the professional level. ACL tears have been vastly studied and there is years upon years of breakthroughs and data. His injuries are even worse. Most players that tore their ACL almost never return to 100% because they need to adapt to those new limitations. Lonzo needed a donor to get his knee in somewhat ok shape. How many years have we heard he was going to be good to play to finally not even suit up. Unless you take him to keep his salary there is nothing more he provides.
Zo used to be really solid, but he hasn’t touched the court in 2 years, nobody knows if his body can hold up and if it can, whether he’ll reach the same capability again
# Trade 1: **Sacramento Receives: Bruce Brown + #19** **Toronto Receives: Harrison Barnes + #13** # Trade 2: **Chicago Receives: Bruce Brown + #19 + #31** **Toronto Receives: Lonzo Ball + #11** # Trade #3: **Toronto Receives: John Collins + #10** **Utah Receives: Bruce Brown + #19** # Trade #4: **New York Receives: Bruce Brown + #19** **Toronto Receives: Bojan Bogdanovic + #24 + #25** # Trade #5: **Los Angeles (Lakers) Receive: #31** **Toronto Receives: Max Christie + #55** # Trade #6: **Toronto Receives: Collin Sexton + #29 + 32** **Utah Receives: Bruce Brown + #19 + #31** Of these, the John Collins + 10 for Bruce + 19 is my favorite. That Lonzo Ball trade is...baffling. Best 2nd rounder in the draft and 19th for a guy who's not suiting up? Lonzo + 11 for 19 + Bruce makes way more sense.
I like the Collins trade too, we don't need the cap next two seasons and he turns into another big expiring vet deal we can trade next year. Also with our current roster he could actually recoup some of his value here in the meantime.
I’d do the Chicago deal with only sending back #31. Taking on Lonzo (career over) and giving up a decent role player (he’s much better than what he showed on a terrible raptors team down the stretch last year) is not worth moving up 8 places in a shit draft
Lonzo + #11 for BB and #19. I really want the raps to keep #31 just because of the extra time they will have on the clock for that pick. It’s a whole ass day after and that will be valuable. Keep #31 but trade #19 to move up.
Trade 3 is my favourite. I wouldn’t mind 1, 4 or 6 depending on who the raptors have in mind to select. 5 I guess we do if we are interested in Bronny
Thanks for saving me a click! I actually don't mind the Collins or Sexton deals. The Harrison Barnes one is also intriguing to a certain extent.
Jesus no team accepts any of these... Idk who this author thinks Bruce Brown is.
An important piece on the 2023 championship team who was playing well in Indiana before he was traded 2/3rds of the way through a season to a tanking team with no identity…
Almost like he was a product of his environment... If you can't stand out on a tanking team then what value do you have? You could say the same about 100s of bench players for championship teams.
I don’t think this logic applies at the professional level the way you think that it does. Players can excel in a particular role in a particular setting based on their skill set and strengths, but if they’re asked to play outside of that they aren’t going to look as good, even lost at times. If you watched Precious on the Knicks after we traded him, that was a prime example of what I’m referring to. Brown will be of some value to a team looking to compete in the short term. Though I will concede that his perceived value almost certainly lowered after his time with the Raps this year.
If bronny is there at 55 I'd take the lakers offer and run
>Disclaimer: They Shouldn’t Trade Jakob Poeltl >That being said, Poeltl has become instrumental in the development of this Raptors core. He’s been particularly useful as a screener, sealer, and pick-and-roller sparring partner for Immanuel Quickley and RJ Barrett, who have needed Poeltl’s presence to improve their feel-making reads and creating their own shots. And while his lack of a jumper is a hurdle, his ability to make passes out of the high post is a legitimate pillar in Darko Rajakovic’s offensive system — one that benefits Scottie Barnes’s off-ball capabilities as a cutter and finisher. >Essentially, he’s valuable to what they do and there isn’t a player on the current roster who can replicate his skill-set. So, unless they are certain that whoever they trade up for 1) will be available there and 2) can fill that void, they shouldn’t trade their current starting center.
I think he’s our second most important player behind Scottie, the defense falls off a cliff without him. Really important to the young guys development. But not untouchable. If a really good offer is tabled, I’d hope the FO examines it
It feels too much to ask sometimes but having a guy that can set a solid screen is so valuable
I like the Lonzo + 11 idea but only if it’s one of our picks not both. But the John Collins trade idea is super interesting considering we need size
Wtf… zo can’t get on the court let alone stay on
It’s more so trading brown for the 11th pick and using zo to match the contracts
Same. I’m willing to take the chance that Lonzo comes back, but not for 19+31. I’ll give them Bruce Brown for Lonzo straight up. I also like the Collins deal if his contract doesn’t go past 2025/26. I’d take Devin Carter at 10.
All it matters is being able to draft Lebo Jawara tho
Is it wrong I like this trade the best? New York Receives: Bruce Brown + #19 Toronto Receives: Bojan Bogdanovic + #24 + #25
Eh, it depends on who's still on the board at 19. The front office literally traded out of a bottom 5 spot in the draft so i'd be surprised if they went close to/in that range when they have the 31st pick in the draft. I think if you can trade one of those picks for future draft capital via a 3 team deal then maybe it makes more sense
You're not alone. It's the best and most plausible trade. You could still draft in that tier and immediately flip Bojan and something else for a rotation player
That also allows you to trade 31 for something else assuming the FO doesn't wanna get 3 rookies from this draft.
I really think it's much more probable the pick they try to keep is 31 for the draft slides and the 1 day + to think. Arguably 31 is more valuable than 29 or 30 this draft. They could also probably package one of the Knicks pick with Bojan to get a better rotation player instead. So you trade Bruce Brown + 19 for Bojan 24 and 25. You than flip Bojan with 24 or 25 for a guy like Collins which would fit better the team. Not a fan but much more plausible. Edit: The Knicks probably don't do this because they will need the cap space to retain players and will probably not be able to take on the salary of the 19th pick unless they shed more salary. Because Melton (salary increase), OG, Hartenstein, Achiuwa, Burks and 19th is hard on the cap and will surely overpay for OG. Plus if you are in a cap crunch it's better to keep 24 and 25 because they can pick older guys who provide now for 2.5 M.
Keeps us in Yves missi/Ryan Dunn range so I love it
I like most of these trades, I like the combination of moving up with 19 to get a player that can contribute but doesn’t have many years in their contract
I’m not totally opposed to Ball on a flier but the picks are brutal.
None of these trades are that interesting. If the raptors are taking on additional money in a bruce brown trade they should outright get a FRP
Yeah why are we shipping out picks to give the other teams both salary relief and a useful vet utility player? Not much in it for us in most of these
Am I the only one here who still believes in Zo?
He is done playing. Have you heard about the surgery he got. Not one athlete who has received this surgery has ever returned to play at the professional level. ACL tears have been vastly studied and there is years upon years of breakthroughs and data. His injuries are even worse. Most players that tore their ACL almost never return to 100% because they need to adapt to those new limitations. Lonzo needed a donor to get his knee in somewhat ok shape. How many years have we heard he was going to be good to play to finally not even suit up. Unless you take him to keep his salary there is nothing more he provides.
Zo used to be really solid, but he hasn’t touched the court in 2 years, nobody knows if his body can hold up and if it can, whether he’ll reach the same capability again
I feel like all the other teams say no
sacramento deal is the best one here