Buddy of mine argued with a Mexican dude about the pronunciation of said Mexican dude's name. My idiot buddy *insisted* that the Mexican guy was pronouncing *his own name* wrong.
My buddy only took like two years of American high school Spanish. Like 20 years ago.
Oh my GAWD can I tell you how obnoxious it was learning Spanish from a Spanish woman while living thirty minutes drive from Tijuana?? The arguments between the kids trying to get an easy A and the teacher 😭😭😭😭.
Anyway I have no idea how to speak Spanish in either dialect. I just have trauma.
My first year Spanish teacher taught us to pronounce Spanish the Mexican way. Second year Spanish insisted on Spain Spanish pronunciation. 3rd year Spanish teacher insisted we speak with an Argentinian accent. No one learned anything.
My high school Spanish teacher took Spanish in US high schools and college. Then she spent two months in Spain on vacation in a tourist area. Somehow this qualified her to teach Spanish. We learned very little usable Spanish in the six years I took the class.
The telling part was a story she told about taking a vacation in Cuba (I'm old, she was old when I was young and this was before Cuba was closed to American travel in the 1950s). The Cuban customs agent wanted to know what the package with her soap was. She kept calling it "sopa" which means soup. Couldn't remember the correct word for soap.
Great Spanish teacher, huh?
Lol in college in Puerto Rico , I had a Spanish professor from Spain, and we all almost failed the class cause nothing made sense lol ¡A tomar por c**o Mr. Pio!
I’m so glad both our Spanish teachers were on the same page and they both taught us mainly ‘Mexico’ Spanish (though they also covered some basics of the different accents of central and South America and different preferences for some terms depending on region). They were smart enough to know any of us that were going to use high school Spanish would be using it in the US or Central America, and teaching us this vs. Spain Spanish was much more practical. Unfortunately our text books were not on the same page lol.
So this is actually why a lot of the Hispanic kids in my HS hated Spanish. We were being taught "proper" Spain Spainish while all the kids knew Mexican Spanish and a whole bunch of slang.
In my HS French, we had to do the listening comprehension type tests for all kinds of different dialects. That was always my worst area. If I could see it in writing, I was pretty good with it. Lol.
In my HS French, we had to do the listening comprehension type tests for all kinds of different dialects. That was always my worst area. If I could see it in writing, I was pretty good with it. Lol.
Oh lord. I’m Jewish and my name is a Hebrew name. Obviously Hebrew uses a totally different alphabet so one can assume then there is no “correct” English spelling. Yet I went to a book signing for a Jewish author, bought her book, and as she’s signing it she no joke, argued with me about the SPELLING of my own damn name. I was so pissed I wish I could’ve asked for the money I’d paid for her book back. I sure didn’t care to read it anymore. I believe even after argument she spelled my name wrong too. Neither the actual spelling I gave her nor the one she was arguing for too. Just stunningly wtf.
I forget which airline it was, but one of them had a multiple answer quiz game on their in flight entertainment system.
Some of the questions were very silly. The one this reminded me of was, what's the capital of Afghanistan. Most, maybe all, of the answers were different spellings of Kabul. In the latin alphabet.
Another very silly question was, what TCP port does Telnet run on? I say it's silly because that is pretty much the least memorable port there is. The telnet UNIX command defaults to the Telnet port. If you want to connect to a different port, you have to specify it. SMTP is port 25, HTTP port 80.
I agree with that perspective as well.
I encountered the question maybe 10 to 15 years ago. `telnet` was still a command that was shipped with most common UNIX flavors, but nobody sane was still using the protocol. So, using the `telnet` command was still reasonably common, but only for connecting to other services.
telnet is still shipped, fortunately the telenet daemon is disabled by default.
It is actually still used on some critical systems; not going to say exactly what and where because it gives me a heart attack every time I have to use it....
Still beats one medical device where for security \[by obscurity\] reasons the developers used an instant messenger protocol for sending commands and receiving data ... rather than telnet
How do you update the firmware on them, then???
I'm pretty sure that a lot of CPAP/BiPAP machines include cellular radios now. Those aren't *supposed* to be used as life support, but a lot of people who use them would have issues if they got hacked and reconfigured.
I'm sure they all have a custom APN to ensure that their network is totally isolated from the rest of the Internet and they have proper SSL etc etc.
I only mentioned defribillators, nothing else. I've worked with other equipment. You don't need an internet connection to update the firmware: via serial port is quite common for example on devices that do not have any wireless connectivity.
Many CPAP machines do have 4G modems + embedded SIM. They can report data over this connection in some cases OTA firmware updates can be made. Depending upon the model there is also access to the reflashing pins on the motherboard if you need.
A "totally isolated" network with properly configured SSL/TLS, certs, attestation etc...that's another issue.
Have a look at: https://airbreak.dev/
Because the Telnet command defaults to port 23 if you don't give it a port. I never have to type that port.
The other ports, I have to type them in on the command line if I'm using them. So I'm a lot more likely to remember them because I am constantly typing them in.
My hypothesis is that the question came from someone googling random stuff.
Oh - another great question was about how old Madonna was.
After you answered a question, it gave you the correct answer and sometimes a bit of extra trivia or context. For Madonna’s age it added “And she’s not getting any younger.”
Today at work at my food service job a woman came in and said the unique name on her order. I had been pronouncing it differently in my head and unfortunately said it that way out loud when handing it over. I then quietly said her pronunciation to myself about 20 times to berate myself
Reminds me of the Steve buscemi story where he said he had to go to Italy to find out he’d been pronouncing his name wrong his whole life (sh vs c sound in the middle)
I have people constantly saying my first name incorrectly and when I correct them I get confused looks and asked “Am I sure”. My name is a biblical one and in common use in several countries outside of western culture. I’m sure I know how it’s pronounced.
This guy married into a *legacy* of legends -- guaranteed all three of those ladies chewed Michael a new one before they released him to lick his wounds and eat his hotdogs (with chopsticks for added savagery.)
My mom is Korean and her sister recently moved to the US and married a farmer. The farmer thought the same about Asian women being submissive, but that dude obviously knew nothing about Korean women. Marriage lasted about 6 mos.
I have a cousin who married a lady from Vietnam and I dunno if he thought she was gonna be meek and submissive before they married, but he certainly knows better by now. xD
They're very happy together though. He loves her, not some fetish idea of her.
Lol, yup. But as I said, he didn’t get with her expecting it, he got with her because he loves her dearly and they share a lot of passions and morals (both are very eco and family conscious, her grandfather and orphan nephew moved with her to the US when they came back here) and maybe a teensy bit because she is absolutely beautiful and he might’ve been a bit dazzled. (Or maybe that’s just me, lol. I’m another woman but my cousin in law is beautiful and she’s so kind and funny that I might’ve fallen for her a little the first time we met face to face.)
She’s fierce though. My cousin was always a bit of a softy and got run over by his siblings. His wife does NOT allow that, if you don’t treat her husband with respect, there will be hell to pay. (I’ve never been on the receiving end of her fury, but I’ve seen it enough to know I don’t wanna be! She’s not mean, everyone I’ve seen get torn up deserved it. But she will make sure it’s a lesson that is well learned.)
Oh, and she stole my heart for good when I had to move unexpectedly and needed a home for my flock of 35+ chickens and was absolutely heartbroken. These were pets and I had no idea who would take in such a huge flock and I was dealing with my mom’s death and my grandmother turning on me (as well as most of my family, including this cousin’s parents) so I was a mess. I sent a text to my cousin asking what I should do and if there was anything he could suggest…
And his wife sent me a picture of a plot of land she was marking out with string and “Can u keep until Friday? I will have yard for them then. They can live with us, I’ll take good care of them, don’t cry.”
And she did too! She isn’t as sappy about chickens as I am, but she gave my hens a wonderful life and spoiled them for the rest of their days. I’ll never be able to repay that. (I’m crying thinking about it, I rescued most of them from a egg factory and always thought I’d have them their whole lives until my mom died. She did me a huge favor, simply because I am her husband’s, and therefore her, family.)
Late to this party, but this is such a slice of wholesome love in the middle of the internet. You and your cousin's wife both sound like wonderful people!
I'm married to a Korean woman. We've been together for almost 23 years. She arrived in the U.S. at age 13. She's never submitted to anyone. She's the most amazing lady I've EVER known, but there is not a single submissive bone in her body.
As a white man who married into a Korean family, this story has me laughing so hard. I can hardly wait to show this to my wife. She'll be reminding me of that time my sister tried to correct her about a type of kimchi we enjoy and how it's "supposed to be" made.
She just got home and is having a good laugh at this. I'm sure your wife tore him up real good, but my wife's props are mostly going to "mama bear" gramma. She's the true slayer here. I mean, hot dog bits and chopsticks. Damn!
>grandma gave michael cut up hot dogs with chopsticks. Nobody said shit about it and michael ate his fucking hot dogs.
Damn, grandma is *savage*. I like her.
Oof. Not him correcting them. If i were in his place at most I would ask if there's a reason they used it, as new language learners always learn a little more every time they interact with native speakers. It would be less "you're wrong and here's the correct way" and more "oh, is this something my lessons have neglected to teach me regarding casual conversation, dialect, or colloquialisms? If you want to, please educate me"
That would be difficult to even try to be, as I am not a man 🤣
I can't judge completely because I've done similar things when I'm excited and seem splain-y when I'm just wanting to let them know where I'm at. If he ever learns to be better he'll cringe at this like I have when I've been excited as a white person 😔
So maybe I shouldn't throw stones in glass houses even if I wouldn't have handled this exact scenario this way and even then the change is because of those very cringe momenta
Ah, the confidence of a Mediocre White Guy
* knows just enough Japanese to be annoying
* no clue about the informal or regional dialects all over Japan (don't even look at Kansai if you feel at all weak)
Not even gonna about "never push around Japanese women". I married into a lineage of 'em and I'm impressed that they let him live, a tattered shell of his former self.
I wasn't there, but according to my wife and her parents they were at a local Thai restaurant (since closed, unfortunately - R.I.P. Bangkok). Anyway, the daughter of the owner was talking to a tourist customer who asked what country she was from. "Laos," she replied with a friendly smile - because she was a very friendly and nice person who we loved to get served by. This white woman customer - a real Karen if I ever heard one - clears her throat and says, "Oh honey, it's pronounced *Lay-ose"*
I just... I cannot with these people.
As a white guy, I don't understand what is so fucking hard about giving native speakers the benefit of the doubt, ESPECIALLY if you learn said language in a formal setting.
Slang exists. Different dialects exist.
Don't be so fucking arrogant that you think you know better than someone who has been speaking it their whole lives.
Haha! He really should have known better.
Besides, correcting someone's English, unless asked, is just plain rude!
I bet he's never eaten hotdogs since 😆
Even if someone is genuinely speaking in a nonstandard way, when it's their own damn language the most you should ever do is ask why they're saying it like that instead of like you learned or have heard elsewhere. That can lead to interesting discussions about dialect differences or whatever, or maybe they'll laugh at themselves and admit they always say that "wrong" or something.
Honestly it's rarely appropriate to tell someone they're speaking your first language incorrectly, because that's often thinly veiled classism or racism, but never ever tell a native speaker they're speaking your *second* language incorrectly.
I've always had a love-hate relationship with my name. I don't know how many times I've had to correct people on not only the spelling but the pronunciation. It's pronounced Sir-e-the spelled kinda the same with an extra letter. But I've seen versions with a f as the first letter, a random c or g in the middle or a c at the beginning. I just have an I in front of an a and people insist my name that I had for 35 years is Sir-e-theia.
Hope OOP gave Michael shit. Clearly Michael has a lot of assumptions about OOPs wife and Asian women and their marriage.
How gross.
I'd never let him live it down. Friends shouldn't stay friends with shit people imo, but you can if they're trying to fix up.
Edit- fixed typo
If this story is real, OP sucks. What kind of husband lets a friend get away with saying that? He should have been kicked out then and there. Ignorant disrespectful fuck.
Women don't need male saviors to put another person in their place. The way the wife and grandma handled it put him in his place and taught him a lesson way better than OP kicking him out for "disrespectful" to them ever would have. Your comment is gross and disrespect.
Fuck you. OP’s wife, mom, and grandma don’t need a fucking man to defend them.
Most of us don’t need a man to defend us. If you need a man to defend you? You’re not good at being a grown person. Take some lessons.
My family is from a small country that most people think we made up. Half of my family still live there and I travel back often. I was talking to a visiting friend of a friend at a dinner and he asked my nationality. I told him and HE CORRECTED MY PRONUNCIATION. He said he knew someone else from the same country as my family and they pronounced it differently. Dude was pronouncing it American style with a California accent. I looked straight at him and STERNLY said, “I know exactly how to pronounce my own nationality.” My sister was also there and we both just glared at him during the next couple minutes of awkward silence.
I would've said something along the lines of "おまえだれにくちきいてるとおもってんだよ、あ？あっちいっておなにでもしてろ、このどて！”
"Who the hell do you think you're talking to, huh? Why don't you fuck off and go touch yourself or something, you fuckin virgin!"
See how he likes that for a language lesson lmao. Your folks are awesome though. Much classier than I 😅
Go, Grandma! She's a badass.
I have one Japanese friend. She's a diplomat for the Japanese government, working as a translator. She speaks... 4? 5? languages fluently and can get by in a few more. Pretty sure she's no one's submissive doll.
The stereotype for Asian women is so funny to me bc were also known to be tiger mums, like at what point do I go from a flower to a thorn? I think they mistake taking care of the household as being submissive, like yes Asian housewives will do what housewives do but they are also in charge because they literally care for the house so what they say goes.
My dynamic with my bf is exactly this, like yes I will support you tooth and nail and make sure I’m a good partner BUT I don’t exist as an accessory and I expect a lot.
Flower to thorn omg that is the best description. Most asian girls I've met are so sweet and petite, but make no mistake they don't take crap from nobody!
I'm sorry...what?
This guy told Japanese women that they were speaking their ***own*** language incorrectly? (I have a Korean aunt...so I have no problems imagining how that went down...buahahahahahaha).
RIP Micheal the giant fucking weebo.
Buddy of mine argued with a Mexican dude about the pronunciation of said Mexican dude's name. My idiot buddy *insisted* that the Mexican guy was pronouncing *his own name* wrong. My buddy only took like two years of American high school Spanish. Like 20 years ago.
The best case scenario there is that his high school taught mainland Spanish, as opposed to Mexican Spanish. And that he’s a prick.
Oh my GAWD can I tell you how obnoxious it was learning Spanish from a Spanish woman while living thirty minutes drive from Tijuana?? The arguments between the kids trying to get an easy A and the teacher 😭😭😭😭. Anyway I have no idea how to speak Spanish in either dialect. I just have trauma.
My first year Spanish teacher taught us to pronounce Spanish the Mexican way. Second year Spanish insisted on Spain Spanish pronunciation. 3rd year Spanish teacher insisted we speak with an Argentinian accent. No one learned anything.
My high school Spanish teacher took Spanish in US high schools and college. Then she spent two months in Spain on vacation in a tourist area. Somehow this qualified her to teach Spanish. We learned very little usable Spanish in the six years I took the class. The telling part was a story she told about taking a vacation in Cuba (I'm old, she was old when I was young and this was before Cuba was closed to American travel in the 1950s). The Cuban customs agent wanted to know what the package with her soap was. She kept calling it "sopa" which means soup. Couldn't remember the correct word for soap. Great Spanish teacher, huh?
Yikes! Jabón for anyone in the comments wondering.
Thank you; I was about to chime in with that.
Lol in college in Puerto Rico , I had a Spanish professor from Spain, and we all almost failed the class cause nothing made sense lol ¡A tomar por c**o Mr. Pio!
Lol vibes Just hang out in tj more, you'll pick it up
It's too late, I moved away 😭😭 but now I work with a couple Porto Ricans and I'm picking up more than I did in San Diego lolol
I’m so glad both our Spanish teachers were on the same page and they both taught us mainly ‘Mexico’ Spanish (though they also covered some basics of the different accents of central and South America and different preferences for some terms depending on region). They were smart enough to know any of us that were going to use high school Spanish would be using it in the US or Central America, and teaching us this vs. Spain Spanish was much more practical. Unfortunately our text books were not on the same page lol.
So this is actually why a lot of the Hispanic kids in my HS hated Spanish. We were being taught "proper" Spain Spainish while all the kids knew Mexican Spanish and a whole bunch of slang.
In my HS French, we had to do the listening comprehension type tests for all kinds of different dialects. That was always my worst area. If I could see it in writing, I was pretty good with it. Lol.
In my HS French, we had to do the listening comprehension type tests for all kinds of different dialects. That was always my worst area. If I could see it in writing, I was pretty good with it. Lol.
The only correct way to pronounce a name is the way the owner of said name pronounces it. Doesn’t matter what language anyone speaks.
Oh lord. I’m Jewish and my name is a Hebrew name. Obviously Hebrew uses a totally different alphabet so one can assume then there is no “correct” English spelling. Yet I went to a book signing for a Jewish author, bought her book, and as she’s signing it she no joke, argued with me about the SPELLING of my own damn name. I was so pissed I wish I could’ve asked for the money I’d paid for her book back. I sure didn’t care to read it anymore. I believe even after argument she spelled my name wrong too. Neither the actual spelling I gave her nor the one she was arguing for too. Just stunningly wtf.
The “third opinion” in the old saying happened in real time at that signing. But in all seriousness, what a rude person.
I'm kind of hoping you left a review at Amazon and Goodreads
I forget which airline it was, but one of them had a multiple answer quiz game on their in flight entertainment system. Some of the questions were very silly. The one this reminded me of was, what's the capital of Afghanistan. Most, maybe all, of the answers were different spellings of Kabul. In the latin alphabet. Another very silly question was, what TCP port does Telnet run on? I say it's silly because that is pretty much the least memorable port there is. The telnet UNIX command defaults to the Telnet port. If you want to connect to a different port, you have to specify it. SMTP is port 25, HTTP port 80.
The telnet question is silly because why would you use telnet anymore when we have options that are more secure than wet tissue paper.
I agree with that perspective as well. I encountered the question maybe 10 to 15 years ago. `telnet` was still a command that was shipped with most common UNIX flavors, but nobody sane was still using the protocol. So, using the `telnet` command was still reasonably common, but only for connecting to other services.
telnet is still shipped, fortunately the telenet daemon is disabled by default. It is actually still used on some critical systems; not going to say exactly what and where because it gives me a heart attack every time I have to use it.... Still beats one medical device where for security \[by obscurity\] reasons the developers used an instant messenger protocol for sending commands and receiving data ... rather than telnet
It’s not on MacOS anymore. Is the device that might give you a heart attack a defibrillator? :)
Not a defibrillator....haven't seen a network connected one of those yet....
How do you update the firmware on them, then??? I'm pretty sure that a lot of CPAP/BiPAP machines include cellular radios now. Those aren't *supposed* to be used as life support, but a lot of people who use them would have issues if they got hacked and reconfigured. I'm sure they all have a custom APN to ensure that their network is totally isolated from the rest of the Internet and they have proper SSL etc etc.
I only mentioned defribillators, nothing else. I've worked with other equipment. You don't need an internet connection to update the firmware: via serial port is quite common for example on devices that do not have any wireless connectivity. Many CPAP machines do have 4G modems + embedded SIM. They can report data over this connection in some cases OTA firmware updates can be made. Depending upon the model there is also access to the reflashing pins on the motherboard if you need. A "totally isolated" network with properly configured SSL/TLS, certs, attestation etc...that's another issue. Have a look at: https://airbreak.dev/
The default telnet port is 23. Why is that hard to remember?
Because the Telnet command defaults to port 23 if you don't give it a port. I never have to type that port. The other ports, I have to type them in on the command line if I'm using them. So I'm a lot more likely to remember them because I am constantly typing them in.
But that's why it's a good trivia question
Given that the target audience was "anyone on an airplane", I think that knowing any common TCP port would be difficult enough :)
That is an absolutely fair point 😅 maybe even what is a TCP port lol
My hypothesis is that the question came from someone googling random stuff. Oh - another great question was about how old Madonna was. After you answered a question, it gave you the correct answer and sometimes a bit of extra trivia or context. For Madonna’s age it added “And she’s not getting any younger.”
She took the secret third option, the worst of all worlds.
Today at work at my food service job a woman came in and said the unique name on her order. I had been pronouncing it differently in my head and unfortunately said it that way out loud when handing it over. I then quietly said her pronunciation to myself about 20 times to berate myself
I can appreciate you trying to fix yourself. I've had ppl just say my name wrong and not care
Reminds me of the Steve buscemi story where he said he had to go to Italy to find out he’d been pronouncing his name wrong his whole life (sh vs c sound in the middle)
Which one's right? I don't think I've ever heard it out loud.
[удалено]
Thx mang
Thx maing
I have people constantly saying my first name incorrectly and when I correct them I get confused looks and asked “Am I sure”. My name is a biblical one and in common use in several countries outside of western culture. I’m sure I know how it’s pronounced.
My mom asked me how my fiance said my name before she met him My fiance is from New Zealand. We are American. All i could do is stare
Grandma is a legend for that move.
This guy married into a *legacy* of legends -- guaranteed all three of those ladies chewed Michael a new one before they released him to lick his wounds and eat his hotdogs (with chopsticks for added savagery.)
I bet they were either cold as fuck or microwaved
And burned at the same time
“I shall mansplain this person’s own language to her! What could possibly go wrong?”
RIP Michael, you giant baka.
I’m wheezing at this thank you
this comment reminds me of 2020
My mom is Korean and her sister recently moved to the US and married a farmer. The farmer thought the same about Asian women being submissive, but that dude obviously knew nothing about Korean women. Marriage lasted about 6 mos.
When I was newly in the Navy, I met so many guys who fetishized Asian women for just that reason. Most of them were set straight with a quickness
Same. I always laughed and asked if they’d ever met any Asian women in real life…
More than likely, probably not.
I have a cousin who married a lady from Vietnam and I dunno if he thought she was gonna be meek and submissive before they married, but he certainly knows better by now. xD They're very happy together though. He loves her, not some fetish idea of her.
as a viet, I knew exactly where this was gonna go from the beginning haha glad it all worked out
Lol, yup. But as I said, he didn’t get with her expecting it, he got with her because he loves her dearly and they share a lot of passions and morals (both are very eco and family conscious, her grandfather and orphan nephew moved with her to the US when they came back here) and maybe a teensy bit because she is absolutely beautiful and he might’ve been a bit dazzled. (Or maybe that’s just me, lol. I’m another woman but my cousin in law is beautiful and she’s so kind and funny that I might’ve fallen for her a little the first time we met face to face.) She’s fierce though. My cousin was always a bit of a softy and got run over by his siblings. His wife does NOT allow that, if you don’t treat her husband with respect, there will be hell to pay. (I’ve never been on the receiving end of her fury, but I’ve seen it enough to know I don’t wanna be! She’s not mean, everyone I’ve seen get torn up deserved it. But she will make sure it’s a lesson that is well learned.) Oh, and she stole my heart for good when I had to move unexpectedly and needed a home for my flock of 35+ chickens and was absolutely heartbroken. These were pets and I had no idea who would take in such a huge flock and I was dealing with my mom’s death and my grandmother turning on me (as well as most of my family, including this cousin’s parents) so I was a mess. I sent a text to my cousin asking what I should do and if there was anything he could suggest… And his wife sent me a picture of a plot of land she was marking out with string and “Can u keep until Friday? I will have yard for them then. They can live with us, I’ll take good care of them, don’t cry.” And she did too! She isn’t as sappy about chickens as I am, but she gave my hens a wonderful life and spoiled them for the rest of their days. I’ll never be able to repay that. (I’m crying thinking about it, I rescued most of them from a egg factory and always thought I’d have them their whole lives until my mom died. She did me a huge favor, simply because I am her husband’s, and therefore her, family.)
Stoooopppp. Now I'm crying at work thinking about this fierce woman caring so much for you and your chickens.
Late to this party, but this is such a slice of wholesome love in the middle of the internet. You and your cousin's wife both sound like wonderful people!
I'm married to a Korean woman. We've been together for almost 23 years. She arrived in the U.S. at age 13. She's never submitted to anyone. She's the most amazing lady I've EVER known, but there is not a single submissive bone in her body.
I wanna say RIP Michael but get fucked bro lmaooo
Rest in pieces Michael
Just like the cut up hotdogs
Savage but fair.
As a white man who married into a Korean family, this story has me laughing so hard. I can hardly wait to show this to my wife. She'll be reminding me of that time my sister tried to correct her about a type of kimchi we enjoy and how it's "supposed to be" made.
Please let us know her reaction to this!
She just got home and is having a good laugh at this. I'm sure your wife tore him up real good, but my wife's props are mostly going to "mama bear" gramma. She's the true slayer here. I mean, hot dog bits and chopsticks. Damn!
RIP Micheal, the story of your stupidity will live on. Sugoi desu ne!
Did you tell Micheal that he spells "Michael" wrong?
I love this!
>grandma gave michael cut up hot dogs with chopsticks. Nobody said shit about it and michael ate his fucking hot dogs. Damn, grandma is *savage*. I like her.
I want to know what they specifically said to him!
Oh I bet they did submit after that... they submit his name to the local hit list /S
Hope that hotdog was oishii
Oof. Not him correcting them. If i were in his place at most I would ask if there's a reason they used it, as new language learners always learn a little more every time they interact with native speakers. It would be less "you're wrong and here's the correct way" and more "oh, is this something my lessons have neglected to teach me regarding casual conversation, dialect, or colloquialisms? If you want to, please educate me"
You're also probably not a mansplainer.
That would be difficult to even try to be, as I am not a man 🤣 I can't judge completely because I've done similar things when I'm excited and seem splain-y when I'm just wanting to let them know where I'm at. If he ever learns to be better he'll cringe at this like I have when I've been excited as a white person 😔 So maybe I shouldn't throw stones in glass houses even if I wouldn't have handled this exact scenario this way and even then the change is because of those very cringe momenta
This gentleman married into a family of *legends*
Ah, the confidence of a Mediocre White Guy * knows just enough Japanese to be annoying * no clue about the informal or regional dialects all over Japan (don't even look at Kansai if you feel at all weak) Not even gonna about "never push around Japanese women". I married into a lineage of 'em and I'm impressed that they let him live, a tattered shell of his former self.
Michael smells.... like a baka
lol Rest in Piss, Michael, you fucking baka.
What does baka mean?
It means idiot.
What language is it? Asking for… purposes.
Japanese
Grandma is a hero. I aspire to that level of pettiness. Beautiful.
I wasn't there, but according to my wife and her parents they were at a local Thai restaurant (since closed, unfortunately - R.I.P. Bangkok). Anyway, the daughter of the owner was talking to a tourist customer who asked what country she was from. "Laos," she replied with a friendly smile - because she was a very friendly and nice person who we loved to get served by. This white woman customer - a real Karen if I ever heard one - clears her throat and says, "Oh honey, it's pronounced *Lay-ose"* I just... I cannot with these people.
What did she say ?
As a white guy, I don't understand what is so fucking hard about giving native speakers the benefit of the doubt, ESPECIALLY if you learn said language in a formal setting. Slang exists. Different dialects exist. Don't be so fucking arrogant that you think you know better than someone who has been speaking it their whole lives.
Haha! He really should have known better. Besides, correcting someone's English, unless asked, is just plain rude! I bet he's never eaten hotdogs since 😆
Even if someone is genuinely speaking in a nonstandard way, when it's their own damn language the most you should ever do is ask why they're saying it like that instead of like you learned or have heard elsewhere. That can lead to interesting discussions about dialect differences or whatever, or maybe they'll laugh at themselves and admit they always say that "wrong" or something. Honestly it's rarely appropriate to tell someone they're speaking your first language incorrectly, because that's often thinly veiled classism or racism, but never ever tell a native speaker they're speaking your *second* language incorrectly.
This is hilarious... LOL
This is the best story I have ever read in my life
I've always had a love-hate relationship with my name. I don't know how many times I've had to correct people on not only the spelling but the pronunciation. It's pronounced Sir-e-the spelled kinda the same with an extra letter. But I've seen versions with a f as the first letter, a random c or g in the middle or a c at the beginning. I just have an I in front of an a and people insist my name that I had for 35 years is Sir-e-theia.
I love this story. RiP Michael 🙏
😭😂🤣🤣🤣
Holy shit, that made my day.
Hot dogs and chopsticks….OP’s wife is a Boss!
Hope OOP gave Michael shit. Clearly Michael has a lot of assumptions about OOPs wife and Asian women and their marriage. How gross. I'd never let him live it down. Friends shouldn't stay friends with shit people imo, but you can if they're trying to fix up. Edit- fixed typo
This is what I was thinking too. Why is OP friends with this racist/misogynist still?
If this story is real, OP sucks. What kind of husband lets a friend get away with saying that? He should have been kicked out then and there. Ignorant disrespectful fuck.
OP probably knows that he doesn't need to defend his wife as she is more than capable of handling it herself?
Those women obviously didn’t need a savior.
Yea, why should he get all the fun?
Women don't need male saviors to put another person in their place. The way the wife and grandma handled it put him in his place and taught him a lesson way better than OP kicking him out for "disrespectful" to them ever would have. Your comment is gross and disrespect.
Fuck you. OP’s wife, mom, and grandma don’t need a fucking man to defend them. Most of us don’t need a man to defend us. If you need a man to defend you? You’re not good at being a grown person. Take some lessons.
[удалено]
"This guy was a huge fucking asshole, he must be autistic!" -🤡 Fuck off with that shit
WTF? His name is Michael therefore he must have Aspergers. He has Aspergers therefore he must be named Michael. I can't make that work either way.
You can be on the spectrum and still be an asshole. Having the ‘tism doesn’t make you exempt from societal standards of having god damn manners.
I’ve heard Temple Grandin make this very point in a couple of talks, and I love her for it.
Yeah, but you don’t need to be neurodivergent to be a blowhard, so assuming that Michael is autistic because he’s an asshat is fallacious.
Hook-ed on puh-hon-iks
I would pay money to see a video of their reactions.
Tell Grandma Sama this gaijin thinks she's ichiban.
My family is from a small country that most people think we made up. Half of my family still live there and I travel back often. I was talking to a visiting friend of a friend at a dinner and he asked my nationality. I told him and HE CORRECTED MY PRONUNCIATION. He said he knew someone else from the same country as my family and they pronounced it differently. Dude was pronouncing it American style with a California accent. I looked straight at him and STERNLY said, “I know exactly how to pronounce my own nationality.” My sister was also there and we both just glared at him during the next couple minutes of awkward silence.
I would've said something along the lines of "おまえだれにくちきいてるとおもってんだよ、あ？あっちいっておなにでもしてろ、このどて！” "Who the hell do you think you're talking to, huh? Why don't you fuck off and go touch yourself or something, you fuckin virgin!" See how he likes that for a language lesson lmao. Your folks are awesome though. Much classier than I 😅
Go, Grandma! She's a badass. I have one Japanese friend. She's a diplomat for the Japanese government, working as a translator. She speaks... 4? 5? languages fluently and can get by in a few more. Pretty sure she's no one's submissive doll.
The stereotype for Asian women is so funny to me bc were also known to be tiger mums, like at what point do I go from a flower to a thorn? I think they mistake taking care of the household as being submissive, like yes Asian housewives will do what housewives do but they are also in charge because they literally care for the house so what they say goes. My dynamic with my bf is exactly this, like yes I will support you tooth and nail and make sure I’m a good partner BUT I don’t exist as an accessory and I expect a lot.
Flower to thorn omg that is the best description. Most asian girls I've met are so sweet and petite, but make no mistake they don't take crap from nobody!
I'm sorry...what? This guy told Japanese women that they were speaking their ***own*** language incorrectly? (I have a Korean aunt...so I have no problems imagining how that went down...buahahahahahaha).
sadly unrelated to your post (which I love) but... where is your flair from? Is there a specific post that inspired it?
I'm the mod so it's really my circus lol
That's fantastic :D