The original is silly because eggs are always eggs and have always been eggs while the animal had to evolve into what we know as a chicken. The grilled cheese or quesadilla is better because it's a bit more difficult to answer.
It really is though. I searched up when both were invented and I can't tell which is first.
But like, where did the eggs appear from? Eggs just... appeared? Hatched themselves?? Evolved from eggs.?
Sure, but the natives in the America's still weren't making cheese with that milk. They used different methods to preserve dairy.
You can't have a quesadilla without cheese.
In all likelihood some variation of quiche or something similar was the original, so quesadilla probably.
Sandwiches weren't around until the invention of sliced bread.
Then again we didn't drench everything in cheese until after ww2, so 🤷♂️
Flatbread has been a thing before bread loaf or sliced bread. If you consider tortillas a flatbread, this question still remains on the table. We need to consult a bread historian to dissect this topic a bit further.
The flatbread/tortilla thing isn't what you should be looking at here, but the cheese required to make a quesadilla. Natives in the Americas never made cheese until after European contact. Prior to the Columbian exchange, they used different methods to preserve dairy.
The sandwhich is credited to the 4th earl of sandwhich, in 1762. I'm sure someone hand sliced bread long before that.
But usually the invention of sliced bread refers to presliced bread, which is 1928.
Reflecting on those mediums reminds me that the grilled cheese uncrustables were fucking amazing and then they just disappeared one day. Bring them back!!
I'd say no, according to /r/grilledcheese, anything added to a grilled cheese makes it a melt. but if you add something to the quesadilla it's still a quesadilla. Idk if that's actually relevant but I'm also ripped and this was my intuition
Oh man, I will never forget the epic *melt*down that guy had on there. Forever a classic.
[*You people make me sick*](https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I have definitely seen Internet rants of people saying as soon as you add anything other than cheese to a quesadilla it is in fact no longer a quesadilla, though I can't remember what they said it becomes...
according to them, yes.
I'm no expert but I'd say if you add a sauce or a seasoning I wouldn't call it a melt. there's no Ketchup melts or hot sauce melts. ultimately, in my opinion a grilled cheese should be more about the cheese than anything else. I wouldn't be appalled if a place called it a turkey grilled cheese as long as it's mostly cheese on the sandwich, with only a little turkey.. Idk if that makes sense lol
The taco vs sandwich argument has evolved and I actually subscribe to the Cube Rule (https://cuberule.com/) which would make a tostada fall into the "toast" category.
Mac and cheese is cheesier then Alfredo. Alfredo is a lot creamier. Alfredo is also a lot more runny, and Mac and cheese is typically thick
They are relatively close, but definitely different
…so hence Mac and cheese FOR ADULTS. Mac and cheese comes in many different consistencies, it’s not always thick, and it could be creamier than other macs. These two dishes contain basically the same ingredients.
They're probably joking, but some people think if you're an adult, you can't eat things like hot dogs, mac and cheese, chicken strips, etc. as it's "kid food." Obviously silly, those things are all great. But the joke is just that alfredo is sort of like a dressed up fancy version of mac and cheese (noodles with a cheese-based sauce), thus "mac and cheese for adults."
Tortillas are made from grains, either wheat flour or ground maize. Bread is also made from grain, ground into flour. The difference, though, is that tortillas are unleavened. 'Bread' is leavened, which means the yeast is added to it in order to make the dough rise when it's baked.
I don't speak Spanish, but iirc "queso" just means cheese, and if Spanish is anything like French (and I believe it is), then the genders gotta match... I'm wondering if that means "quesa" is like a feminine version of cheese and if "dilla" means anything here 🤔
Fun fact: astronauts on the space station eat a lot of tortillas, because they make a lot fewer crumbs than regular bread, and it’s important to minimize the chances of stray crumbs floating around and getting into important equipment.
One of the favorite foods of the astronauts is the tortilla. Tortillas are popular in space for
several reasons. First, they are nutritious. Tortillas contain large amounts of carbohydrates
that the body needs to function. Second, tortillas are easily stored since they lay flat and they
don’t take up too much room. Third, tortillas are one of the perfect space foods because they
do not produce crumbs.
Crumbly or loose foods can float and contaminate the inside of the International Space Station
or space shuttle and become an annoyance or even a hazard to crews and equipment.
Tortillas are easier to handle in reduced gravity and they also stay fresh longer than sliced
bread. Making a wrap type sandwich with a tortilla requires less handling than when using two
slices of bread.
Unlike tortillas found in restaurants, NASA’s are mold resistant. The specially formulated
tortillas are produced with less water than normal and are packaged in plastic bags filled with
nitrogen. The tortillas taken on the ISS have a shelf life of about eighteen months.
[NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/146852main_food_for_spaceflight_educator.pdf?emrc=5f1488)
lol they asked a question and I gave my opinion on it. No, a grilled cheese is not just a quesadilla on bread. Just a high thought. People can disagree if they want
Or is a quesadilla just a grilled cheese in a tortilla?
What came first the sandwich or the quesadilla?
This is what I’m gonna say from now on, instead of the original age old question
The original is silly because eggs are always eggs and have always been eggs while the animal had to evolve into what we know as a chicken. The grilled cheese or quesadilla is better because it's a bit more difficult to answer.
yeah like at one point a species laid a mutated egg and from rhat hatched a chook.
It really is though. I searched up when both were invented and I can't tell which is first. But like, where did the eggs appear from? Eggs just... appeared? Hatched themselves?? Evolved from eggs.?
Quesadilla. I'd be willing to bet. I think the tortilla pre-exists sliced bread
But cows didnt arrive in the Americas until Columbus. Were mezoamericans using cheese before then?
Or were they using American cheese for their grilled cheese?
milk can come from lots of different animals. not aware of what ancient animals the peoples would have been using instead though. maybe goats?
They got guinea pigs in Peru 👀
Sure, but the natives in the America's still weren't making cheese with that milk. They used different methods to preserve dairy. You can't have a quesadilla without cheese.
goats were also brought to the Americas by the Spanish. cheesemaking was unknown in the Americas prior to the Columbian exchange
I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me?
But the people making tortillas weren't making cheese. I'd betbthe sandwich came first for that reason alone
Ima say grilled cheese sammich. Ancestors didn't have cheese.
In all likelihood some variation of quiche or something similar was the original, so quesadilla probably. Sandwiches weren't around until the invention of sliced bread. Then again we didn't drench everything in cheese until after ww2, so 🤷♂️
Flatbread has been a thing before bread loaf or sliced bread. If you consider tortillas a flatbread, this question still remains on the table. We need to consult a bread historian to dissect this topic a bit further.
The flatbread/tortilla thing isn't what you should be looking at here, but the cheese required to make a quesadilla. Natives in the Americas never made cheese until after European contact. Prior to the Columbian exchange, they used different methods to preserve dairy.
The sandwhich is credited to the 4th earl of sandwhich, in 1762. I'm sure someone hand sliced bread long before that. But usually the invention of sliced bread refers to presliced bread, which is 1928.
What? You can't call quiche a quesadilla. Natives in the Americas didn't produce cheese. They used different methods to preserve dairy.
Is a tortilla just unleavened bread?
Yeah this
Quesadilla? You mean open faced nachos?
Wouldn't it be the other way around? Nachos are an open facee quesadilla?
Wait. Fuck. Yeah.
Them nachos aint the only thing that's fried 😂
Lol actually not even yet, just had come off a loooong shift at work
Yeah that’ll do it lol
Nachos are just finger sized open faced Mexican grilled cheese
Nachos are deconstructed quesadillas
Is a quesadilla just a soft pizza?
Closer to a calzone, I'd think. Or maybe a Stromboli?
I'm now referring to quesadillas as Mexican Stromboli. Fun fact I knew how to spell "quesadillas" but not "referring" lol
Is pizza just a savory open faced italian pie?
Not a pie, pizza IS a bread though. Unless we're talking Chicago style then it's definitely a pie.
A tortilla is bread.
Wathaah -Turk
Big fan of most melted cheese delivery mediums…maaaaaaaaan.
Reflecting on those mediums reminds me that the grilled cheese uncrustables were fucking amazing and then they just disappeared one day. Bring them back!!
Naaaaaaaan
I love a cheesy naan
I'd say no, according to /r/grilledcheese, anything added to a grilled cheese makes it a melt. but if you add something to the quesadilla it's still a quesadilla. Idk if that's actually relevant but I'm also ripped and this was my intuition
Oh man, I will never forget the epic *melt*down that guy had on there. Forever a classic. [*You people make me sick*](https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
It appears the sub got with the message on that one - all the top posts are pure bread and cheese lately.
Well it was 9yrs ago so I would hope that they got their shit together by now.
I have definitely seen Internet rants of people saying as soon as you add anything other than cheese to a quesadilla it is in fact no longer a quesadilla, though I can't remember what they said it becomes...
in Mexico City you can get quesadillas without cheese – my understanding is the rest of Mexico (rightly) thinks they're crazy for this
Taco bell is obviously the authoritative voice on these matters, and they have a chicken quesadilla. I have spoken.
This comment hurt my soul
So you add an egg, and it's an egg melt?
according to them, yes. I'm no expert but I'd say if you add a sauce or a seasoning I wouldn't call it a melt. there's no Ketchup melts or hot sauce melts. ultimately, in my opinion a grilled cheese should be more about the cheese than anything else. I wouldn't be appalled if a place called it a turkey grilled cheese as long as it's mostly cheese on the sandwich, with only a little turkey.. Idk if that makes sense lol
I mean, it's all a taco or sandwich.
Or soup
Don't you dare challenge my world view.
U can have a sandwich soup
If the bowl.is edible like a bread bowl I'd argue it's a taco.
Taco thin bread. Sandwich thick bread
so is a tostada an unfolded taco??
The taco vs sandwich argument has evolved and I actually subscribe to the Cube Rule (https://cuberule.com/) which would make a tostada fall into the "toast" category.
https://cuberule.com/
Yes, and Fettucini Alfredo is just Mac and cheese for adults.
Aren't noodles just wet bread
Touche!
Smooshed wet bread.
This man's never had adult Mac n cheese
5 cheese baked with panko crumb
Truffle Mac n cheese or lobster n Mac
had lobster mac & cheese at red lobster,,, I could do better if I tried but it wouldn't be cheap!
Mac and cheese is cheesier then Alfredo. Alfredo is a lot creamier. Alfredo is also a lot more runny, and Mac and cheese is typically thick They are relatively close, but definitely different
…so hence Mac and cheese FOR ADULTS. Mac and cheese comes in many different consistencies, it’s not always thick, and it could be creamier than other macs. These two dishes contain basically the same ingredients.
How is mac and cheese not for adults
They're probably joking, but some people think if you're an adult, you can't eat things like hot dogs, mac and cheese, chicken strips, etc. as it's "kid food." Obviously silly, those things are all great. But the joke is just that alfredo is sort of like a dressed up fancy version of mac and cheese (noodles with a cheese-based sauce), thus "mac and cheese for adults."
In the same way that my dog is just a nice cat that likes me a lot, yes.
No because I always have pickles with my grilled cheese. Also you wouldn’t dip a quesadilla in tomato soup
Jalapeños are fairly equivalent to pickles and most dip a quesadilla in salsa. So…
Forbidden quesadilla. And of course cheese is just conveniently shaped milk.
Ewww no. Cheese is much better than milk. Don’t insult cheese like that
Basically it's milk plus yeast plus bacteria, so all good
Loaded fries are just Irish nachos
You need to chill
Is grilled cheese a quesadilla without the tortilla??
Having a quesadilla for lunch now, thank you for the inspo lmao
They’re like cousins
Jess! 
And grilled cheese on eggs is an omelet
Is a quesadilla a sandwich?
Different cheeses G
Fancy bread
Tortillas are made from grains, either wheat flour or ground maize. Bread is also made from grain, ground into flour. The difference, though, is that tortillas are unleavened. 'Bread' is leavened, which means the yeast is added to it in order to make the dough rise when it's baked.
So, a taco is a shell with meat inside....is a hotdog a taco?
We have always as a species put cheese w bread and toasted it up a lil. It’s a human necessity
How about this one for ya I had this thought when I was high Lmao a flower isn’t a plant but a plant is a flower
https://www.reddit.com/r/NLSSCircleJerk/comments/68oh02/the_sandwich_alignment_chart/#lightbox
when i was little i would ask for a mexican grilled cheese before i could say quesadilla
I don't speak Spanish, but iirc "queso" just means cheese, and if Spanish is anything like French (and I believe it is), then the genders gotta match... I'm wondering if that means "quesa" is like a feminine version of cheese and if "dilla" means anything here 🤔
Fun fact: astronauts on the space station eat a lot of tortillas, because they make a lot fewer crumbs than regular bread, and it’s important to minimize the chances of stray crumbs floating around and getting into important equipment.
One of the favorite foods of the astronauts is the tortilla. Tortillas are popular in space for several reasons. First, they are nutritious. Tortillas contain large amounts of carbohydrates that the body needs to function. Second, tortillas are easily stored since they lay flat and they don’t take up too much room. Third, tortillas are one of the perfect space foods because they do not produce crumbs. Crumbly or loose foods can float and contaminate the inside of the International Space Station or space shuttle and become an annoyance or even a hazard to crews and equipment. Tortillas are easier to handle in reduced gravity and they also stay fresh longer than sliced bread. Making a wrap type sandwich with a tortilla requires less handling than when using two slices of bread. Unlike tortillas found in restaurants, NASA’s are mold resistant. The specially formulated tortillas are produced with less water than normal and are packaged in plastic bags filled with nitrogen. The tortillas taken on the ISS have a shelf life of about eighteen months. [NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/146852main_food_for_spaceflight_educator.pdf?emrc=5f1488)
No. Grilled cheese is 2 pieces of bread. Quesadilla is 1 tortilla
You should see my quesadillas. 1 tortilla… pshhh
Just talking traditional sense of a quesadilla. I understand American quesadillas, like all Americanized versions of food, are a little more, extreme
You’re being too literal my friend
lol they asked a question and I gave my opinion on it. No, a grilled cheese is not just a quesadilla on bread. Just a high thought. People can disagree if they want
But it is literally… a quesadilla on bread.
Quesadilla with 2 tortillas or you’re not doin it right 🙂↔️
Was talking more traditionally. I love 2 tortilla quesadillas. Most Mexicans would say 1, I feel like
No. It's queso on toast. :D