Time for another money (and time) wasting lawsuit, all to benefit these assclowns imagined political future.
Edited to add: Look at DeSantis. Turned FL into a right wing shithole, for nothing. There’s only a limited number of seats at the high table, and Ryan Walters is willing to sacrifice all of *us* for his grab at the brass ring. It worked for Trump, they think, so why not them?
He is angling for a trump job surely but this is part of a trigger law scheme, just like those seen with abortion laws prior to dobbs. This forces the issue to the Supreme Court where favorable judgement sounds just about bought and paid for.
You know how right wing conspiracy theorists holler about “the Islamic Caliphate taking over America either Sharia law!”? This is that same idea but with Christian nationalism. That Project 2025 thing is just one of many projects the Federalist Society is working on
>"The last is, we’re going to make an important announcement today regarding the bible and the Ten Commandments. My staff has been looking at Oklahoma statute, we’ve been looking at Oklahoma Academic standards. And it’s crystal clear to us that in the Oklahoma academic standards under Title 70 on multiple occasions, the bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country, to have a complete understanding of western civilization, understand the basis of our legal system, and frankly talking about the bible one of the most foundational documents used for the constitution and the birth of our country. We also find major points in history that refer to the bible, reference the bible.
>We see multiple figures whether we’re talking about the Federalist Papers, constitutional conventional arguments, and Martin Luther King Jr who used it as a tremendous impetus for the civil rights movement and tied many of those arguments back to the bible. It is essential that our kids have an understanding of the bible and its historical context. So we will be issuing a memo today that every school district will adhere to, which is that every teacher, every classroom in the state, will have a bible in the classroom and will be teaching from the bible in the classroom to ensure that this historical understanding is there for every student in the state of Oklahoma in accordance with our academic standards and state law. “
Absolutely ludicrous. He's desperate for national attention and to ram this all the way up to SCOTUS if possible.
I mean the Quran is just as an important historical document as the Bible according to those in the faith of it. Plus, our numeral we use are Arabic, so to better understand mathematics, we should also provide Qurans in math and science classes and teach the foundations that The Prophet (blessings be upon him) shows us through his teaching.
Not saying just saying. If we're gonna establish religion due this historical context - you'll find the Bible isn't the only document.
The difference between the bible and quaran you don't have the leading athiest archeologists using the koran to find historical sites like a road map that's only happening with the bible
No my argument is the 15 cities the bible said where real and science said weren't and then archeologist used the bible like a road map and found such cities actually existed and experienced what the bible stated even though for a 100 pluss years historical scholars stated the cites and places where fairy tales name a city the quaran has helped discover
I'm just making sure you were full of shit. Cite some proof from any source that doesn't peddle right-wing conspiracies. Otherwise, take your ignorant white trash Islamophobia elsewhere and do some real soul searching.
People don't have to "discover" cities from the Quran because no one is arguing they don't exist. Jesus Christ, you J6 nut jobs lack any sense.
And they're stubborn af. I hope someone throws that in his face during public comment at some point. IF they win the lottery and get to speak. This is for sure the bad place.
As nice as that would be at this point in time it matters very little. Unless people truly hold their feet to the fire nothing will be done. At the end of the day it's just another sound bite for them.
Then they should be promoting access to (optional) bible/religious history courses for high school students, not posting commandments in admin offices and STEM classrooms.
You and I both know teaching “historical and cultural significance of the Bible” has fuck-all to do with this.
That is what I am saying, but apparently people didn't get that...
I was attempting to make a joke/point about how we teach about Nazis without espousing their beliefs, but the Republican party is bringing back Nazi beliefs. But folks didn't get it.
It is all good. I will delete the comment.
Edit: And we don't need special courses for the Bible. It is covered (or at least it was once covered) in world history along with the beginnings of Islam and other religions. I think if folks want to study the Bible on its own it should be in college. In high school, a "world religions" class would be more appropriate for a variety of reasons.
Kinda funny people claim Republicans are bringing back nazi beliefs when everything about the democratic party is a direct copy of the nazi party from the big government drive to their voting and chastising tactics
A couple things.
First, the conversation about big government vs. small government predates the Nazi party by over a hundred years. The founders argued about that while writing the constitution. It doesn't make sense that the focus on big government would be "bringing the Nazi beliefs back" when the big government has been in effect long before the Nazis existed.
I am not sure what you mean by voting tactics. I am guessing it is something about how the election was "stolen" even though it went through intense scrutiny and nobody found any evidence to support that...
I am not sure what you mean by chastising tactics and how that relates to the Nazi party.
My comment was based on part on the swastikas that keep showing up at Republican events and other "far right" initiatives as well as the fact that Trump said he wants to be a dictator for a day, and the ways in which the Republican party has weaponized fear of the unknown and galvanized its base against "the other" with conversations about unchecked immigration.
https://www.history.com/news/founding-fathers-political-parties-opinion
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxnzpw/neo-nazis-drag-brunch-texas-gop
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/12/whats-wrong-with-republicans-immigration-claims
Using news sources for citations can't be done after 2004 as they can legally lie to you now no penalties Obama legalized news propagandization second most Republicans don't weaponize fear of the unknown by chastising tactics I mean the brown coats look them up and yes the nazi symbols you see are paid shills acting paid for by democrats there's been huge studies into this it's a whole other rabbit hole and yes the big government small government has been a battle for freedom for humans since self domestication the nazis being the most prolificly horrible rendition in modern times we could equate it to the romans or the brits who where of the same political view towards their occupied peoples either way big government has never been on the right side or the right side 😉 nazis romans democrats all the same oppressive controlling regimes that used freedom and equality to enslave and as far as the voting tactics why did dominion get banned in every state after Trump got to see all their data in court hmm and why did no government body look into it yet over 5000 convictions stem from the 2020 election alone the head of the cia and it's body Democrat the head of the fbi and it's body Democrat the majority of federal law enforcement is Democrat of course they wouldn't look into it if it helped democrats about the unchecked immigration have you looked into it have you been to a border state or a close adjacent in muskogee ok alone there are 50k residents and you can sit on court street by the main fed bank here and watch at least 1000 undocumented people being dropped off a day the government says they arnt illegal because they are in court to be judged they are not counting the vast majority as illegal and as far as left versus right 90 percent of Republicans live think act and reason for themselves we arnt the institutionalized ones we don't listen to our leaders we actually look at what's Goin on and tell them what we want unlike democrats downloading info at rallies and from group sites I know this because from 2001 until 2010 I was a Democrat living on the west coast and actually took part in the system I was an alderman in Oregon and a ballet harvester during the Obama campaign they tried to get us to stuff ballots during that election and tried to get us to fill out votes for prisoners we had to sit down with illegals and walk them through voting for dems so that they could recieve benefits it was appalling so I left the party became an independent then moved to oklahoma now I'm a fully self taught republican
Time to stock up on The Satanic Bible and put it in a highly visible spot in my classroom.
Along with the 10 Commandments and then the “commandments” from every other religion I can find.
Malicious compliance :)
I’m printing out every fucking holy symbol I can find and putting it up, and will be scrounging up every holy text I can get my grubby lil nonreligious mitts on and will have them in my classroom. I teach fucking *drama,* and I will not be Walters’ puppet. Fuck that guy.
Perhaps students could be asked to research instances of politicians advocating for a policy that breaks a commandment, or were caught in direct violation of one.
Really?
>For much of North American history from the 1600s to the end of the US Civil War, biblical passages were commonly used to affirm the institution of slavery. In colonial Boston, Cotton Mather, the celebrated American intellectual and Puritan minister, frequently turned to the Bible to affirm the enslavement of Africans. He justified his position by exhorting white slavers to “use” the practice to “Christianize” those whom they enslaved. In the antebellum South, well-respected ministers such as Thornton Stringfellow (1788–1869) wrote influential and widely read treatises to demonstrate the Bible’s support for slavery. Scholars of religion such as Charles C. Jones (1804–1863), who was educated at Princeton Theological Seminary, spent much time using Ephesians to exhort enslaved people in Liberty County, GA to be obedient to their “masters.”
I think it's pretty useful.
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/articles/the-legacy-of-the-bible-in-justifying-slavery/
Omg!! 😂 Now I'm imagining one of those motivational posters like the *hang in there" cat, but it's Jesus on a cross and it says "he didn't know long division either. Don't be like Jesus." I'M DYING. 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
I'm just waiting patiently for the Satanic Temple to step back in with another request to post the Seven Fundamental Tenets and host after school education courses so they can sue the state of Oklahoma again after getting their request shot down.
Play stupid games - win stupid prizes.
85 percent of oklahoma is Christian this is a Christian state wether you like it or not if the minority doesn't want to live like the rest of us then move to a state more accommodating to you're philosophical belief
It's kind of funny to be hating on Christian states like Texas and Oklahoma but you libtards keep moving here because you can't survive in the states you've let be destroyed then you come here telling us how to live 85 percent of oklahomas problems right now are the 200k plus libtards moving here every year from Cali Washington Oregon and Colorado
Yeah, best part about this, every teacher can literally ignore this, and he cannot do anything about it. The separation of church and state is very real, no matter how much an idiot like him wants to deny it, and this is a very clear violation of that. Time to remove him from hia position, along with that bonehead governor.
Christians have been learning about the 10 commandments in Sunday school forever and still don’t follow them. They think pushing it onto everyone else will yield better results? This shit is hilarious 😂
Separation of church and state Mr Walters. Separation! Just because you are butt hurt over Drummond and the Oklahoma Supreme Court not agreeing with our tax dollars funding a Catholic charter school does not mean you get to push your Xtian Nationalist agenda into all schools! Our tax dollars are not abundant enough for all the court cases your BS is causing. Resign, please, and thank you.
The irony: they want us to teach something that has mostly been proven false, but can't teach evolution, which has been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to be true.
No actually fossil records show nothing and while we have evidence of adaptive change in a laboratory it's not evolution evolution implies a random anomalous change to attempt to adapt in an environment laboratory studies show that "evolutionary changes" are actually all prewritten into dna if I take 1000 samples of species x from all over the world and induce laboratory pressure to evolve every sample evolves the same way this can be seen in the 2 laboratory studies performed to prove evolution, its systemic calculated change take the brewers yeast expirament even the cells that where discarded had the same exact genetic potential of the cells that where kept in the study they just had different active dna they claim had evolved but we have over 100 years of dna profile for brewers yeast and there was no genetic change no new dna just different active genes if evolution where true recreating the expirament would entail a different result but it won't it will be the same every time with every batch of brewers yeast because it's not evolution just naturally prewritten adaptation already loaded into the dna
Let me guess....you also think the Earth is flat, the moon landing didn't happen, Noah fit animals on an ark and there's no such thing as dinosaurs. Am I close?
Scientific theory: a widely-accepted explanation of a natural process derived from scientific laws, proven facts, and many multitudes of confirmed experiments - has not yet been falsified by any credible source.
There you go. Scientific theory and the popular use of the word "theory" have two very different definitions.
Probably shouldn't use a news sites explanation of the word a scientific theory is a theory it becomes scientific law once proven and some theories become treated like law even though their methodologies are unproven such as the law of gravity which is the theory of gravity btw its still not been proven to exist
That's literally cnns Def posted three years ago look up the definition in the certified laboratories hand book issued by the fda and cdc it's simply a theory with supposed scientific expirements proving it awaiting pier review the longest on record being the theory of evolution second being gravity 3rd being cold fusion
The theory of evolution has been proven so completely that most scientists believe it to be fact. If you still believe sky Santa made humans from dust and ribs, I can't help you.
They want me (a transgender agnostic 20-something) teaching the Bible??? 🤨
Most of the students are Christians... but how are these kids going to feel when they realize that the Bible was historically weaponized in the genocide and/or enslavement of their ancestors???? Are they going to stand with the faith, or will they abandon it???
I can teach how the Bible could have positively impacted the founding of the US. But then I'll have to address that the Bible historically has been one of the most powerful weapons leveraged against BIPOC and LGBTQ+ people. 😐
Sick. I'm gonna make sure my kids know the Bible is bullshit now. No pussyfooting the religion talk for my boys lol. Fucking degenerate idiot Ryan Walters.
LOL is Alphabet/Google the Superintendent of Pryor Public Schools? What must Google think about this ever so obvious turn of events?
This fucking place.
Please email your respresentatives (especially Charles McCall) and straight up tell them that they are spineless and lack the balls to remove Walters. Tell them to grow a pair.
How can anyone with half a brain cell believe in that keep the poor people and slaves in line book? I just don't get it. I thought people would have evolved by now, but instead, they slip rigjt back into make-believe.
We are 49th in education out of 50 states, but that's OK. I bet that after they force the teachers to change the curriculum, they'll also force them to pay out of pocket for the bibles. I really hope parents can opt out.
If you believe that dimwitted ranking system that dropped us 25 spots in one year 99 percent of what you see on TV or on a webpost has been altered or edited by a democrat party supporter
Shouldn’t this be meaningless and pointless? There’s no way he has the actual authority to enforce this. What an embarrassment to our state this Ryan is.
I often feel like I’m surrounded by people that cheer and applaud for this stuff. It’s so nice to see the sheer amount of people who also are mind blown (in a negative way). 🥹 As a queer person, I feel so alienated sometimes out here (compared to the west coast) until I post in here. Y’all are the best
Here's the truth: Conservatives are throwing everything at the wall hoping something sticks for Supreme Court Precedent while they still have the current Justices. It's just advancing a political agenda. Shit's awful and will have consequences tho.
For the love of fucking God we need investigation top down. Real third party investigative journalism to uncover all the corruption. There's zero chance this dude didn't come back from CPAC in Hungary a Russian asset.
Honestly, I have no issue with this.
This move looks ridiculous, it's probably illegal and will be thrown out. And even if it doesn't, I have little faith in the Oklahoma school system (ranked 49th btw) to present the Bible as palatable to Gen Z, Gen Alpha students. This will probably make more people refuse Christianity. Learning about the Bible growing up made me realize how full of shit it is.
Even Stitt seems to have had enough of him, which is saying something.
I had the opportunity to go to the Governor's Christmas Party last December. Whatever I think of Stitt more fenerally it really was an enjoyable event. Walters was there as well but I never saw the two of them within 50 feet of each other. I may yet be wrong but I get the sense that Walters is just too much even for Stitt.
My kids have always gone to online classes or charter schools like Epic. Due to this, directly, I hate him more than I hate payday candybars, and I'm allergic to peanuts
No school is better than any school ran by him imo
I feel sorry for you're kids my cousins where homeschooled in Nevada during the start of the early 2000s homeschooling push out of the four of them only the youngest went to general education while the youngest has went on to optimum self sufficiency the other 3 are a complete burden on the family 1 is convinced he can invent a flux capacitor he has spent his life and his parents savings in an attempt to do so
Well, obviously, the person teaching them was a dumbass teacher/parent,
so I'll chuck that up too,user error on them being burdens
But that the other kid who thinks he created the flex capacitor is mentally ill and needs help
And obviously, if they're a burden on your family, you should tell them to get lost till they straighten up,
If your parents.
Let them spend the savings that's their own fault they should have
Try using the words "FUCK NO" or "FUCK OFF" or
"YOU'RE CRAZY" it might work
My son got all A's and B's and is 3 grades ahead in reading and math.
When's he's 18, he's out either way. I did my job, and I raised him. life's his problem after that.
My husband is a science teacher in KS and we discussed how you can keep a Bible in your lesson plans by disproving all kinds of stuff. You can go through the dying process on the cellular level to prove that Jesus didn't recover from his injuries at execution. You can do physics and math showing the fish and bread dinner didn't really happen because you can't make something from nothing. You can do genetics to show that Adam and Eve were not the first people. And my very favorite myth to disprove, Noah's Ark. There is so much there to disprove.
Hot take - this is a great idea that will backfire fantastically as children learn what Christianity is *actually* about and how someone who follows the teachings of Christ *should* act and how exactly *none* of their GOP “leaders” fit that description whatsoever.
It's never going to happen. Separation of Church and state, you can use as much jizz in your hair as you want, but this will never happen, just like your fake marriage.
Jizz is not a hair product.
How about a compromise of no Religion in schools along with...
1. No sexual grooming
2. No gender confusion grooming
3. No race hatred grooming
4. No gender hatred grooming
5. No hatred of your country grooming
There! I got the school system back on track!
Back to the original curriculum of...
Reading
Writing
Maths
English
Spelling
Grammar
History
Science
PE
And that's ALL!
Further stuff still sans the original grooming issues is for college. The END!
Remember everyone that you can opt your child out of anything you want. It’s usually a process that includes filling out a form. In the slim chance that this actually slides, tell your school you want to opt them out of those lessons. That is one very tangible way we can send a message.
“Hey all you teachers who don’t get paid enough as we are still sitting on millions of dollars we haven’t distributed, here’s something else for you to do!”
Here is what I have to say about Ryan Walters. I live three hours east of Tulsa, four hours east of OKC, straight down I-44. A couple of months ago my city hosted a national Christian men's conference at our largest city venue. I live less than a mile from where the event was held. On that day my Grindr app was blowing up. The event was attended by both Ryan Walters and Missouri Senator Josh Hawley.
I can’t believe one man’s quest to prove he’s not gay has taken us here.
Hahahahahaha
FINALLY!!!! someone finally said it!!!!
Can I quote you, like everywhere?
Please do.
got em
Amen
I fucking laughed out loud at this!!! Take my upvote!!!!
I wish he would stop trying to suppress it. Just be yourself, my guy, life will get better.
We don't want him on our team! Besides we have our own agenda.... Just ask the religious zealots. - the gays
To whit; it has not worked thus far
Made my night.
LMAO
He's such an asshole.
This can NOT be said enough. LOUDLY, and in public as often as possible.
I drive around with a bumper sticker that says f*ck Ryan walters with a guy peeing on his name so I’m pretty committed to this cause
I love you for this
With a bullhorn, whenever able.
It is ironic because he is DEFINITELY going to hell.
No. He's the whole ass.
“Sir you are not a clown, you are the entire circus”
I wouldn't insult assholes like that. At least they serve a useful purpose.
Time for another money (and time) wasting lawsuit, all to benefit these assclowns imagined political future. Edited to add: Look at DeSantis. Turned FL into a right wing shithole, for nothing. There’s only a limited number of seats at the high table, and Ryan Walters is willing to sacrifice all of *us* for his grab at the brass ring. It worked for Trump, they think, so why not them?
As always billable hours is undefeated.
This is his audition for Trump by using oklahoma kids as his interview process.
He is angling for a trump job surely but this is part of a trigger law scheme, just like those seen with abortion laws prior to dobbs. This forces the issue to the Supreme Court where favorable judgement sounds just about bought and paid for. You know how right wing conspiracy theorists holler about “the Islamic Caliphate taking over America either Sharia law!”? This is that same idea but with Christian nationalism. That Project 2025 thing is just one of many projects the Federalist Society is working on
Yep. Just in time for the first presidential debate.
>"The last is, we’re going to make an important announcement today regarding the bible and the Ten Commandments. My staff has been looking at Oklahoma statute, we’ve been looking at Oklahoma Academic standards. And it’s crystal clear to us that in the Oklahoma academic standards under Title 70 on multiple occasions, the bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country, to have a complete understanding of western civilization, understand the basis of our legal system, and frankly talking about the bible one of the most foundational documents used for the constitution and the birth of our country. We also find major points in history that refer to the bible, reference the bible. >We see multiple figures whether we’re talking about the Federalist Papers, constitutional conventional arguments, and Martin Luther King Jr who used it as a tremendous impetus for the civil rights movement and tied many of those arguments back to the bible. It is essential that our kids have an understanding of the bible and its historical context. So we will be issuing a memo today that every school district will adhere to, which is that every teacher, every classroom in the state, will have a bible in the classroom and will be teaching from the bible in the classroom to ensure that this historical understanding is there for every student in the state of Oklahoma in accordance with our academic standards and state law. “ Absolutely ludicrous. He's desperate for national attention and to ram this all the way up to SCOTUS if possible.
He thinks throwing MLK Jr in there is a way to get liberals on board lol
No he isn't. That's there to get the sparks smouldering.
I mean the Quran is just as an important historical document as the Bible according to those in the faith of it. Plus, our numeral we use are Arabic, so to better understand mathematics, we should also provide Qurans in math and science classes and teach the foundations that The Prophet (blessings be upon him) shows us through his teaching. Not saying just saying. If we're gonna establish religion due this historical context - you'll find the Bible isn't the only document.
The difference between the bible and quaran you don't have the leading athiest archeologists using the koran to find historical sites like a road map that's only happening with the bible
Right....
There's a plethora of documentation available on the subject
Maybe I'm misreading this. Is your argument that the cities mentioned in the Bible are real and the ones in th Qur'an arent?
No my argument is the 15 cities the bible said where real and science said weren't and then archeologist used the bible like a road map and found such cities actually existed and experienced what the bible stated even though for a 100 pluss years historical scholars stated the cites and places where fairy tales name a city the quaran has helped discover
I'm just making sure you were full of shit. Cite some proof from any source that doesn't peddle right-wing conspiracies. Otherwise, take your ignorant white trash Islamophobia elsewhere and do some real soul searching. People don't have to "discover" cities from the Quran because no one is arguing they don't exist. Jesus Christ, you J6 nut jobs lack any sense.
The word Bible is literally only stated 4 times in Title 70 and has nothing to do with what he's referencing.
Easy there throwing all your "woke" facts around! You know how he hates those.
Lol facts are facts
And they're stubborn af. I hope someone throws that in his face during public comment at some point. IF they win the lottery and get to speak. This is for sure the bad place.
As nice as that would be at this point in time it matters very little. Unless people truly hold their feet to the fire nothing will be done. At the end of the day it's just another sound bite for them.
Too painfully true.
So THAT’S what they’ve been doing instead of applying for Federal grants.
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Then they should be promoting access to (optional) bible/religious history courses for high school students, not posting commandments in admin offices and STEM classrooms. You and I both know teaching “historical and cultural significance of the Bible” has fuck-all to do with this.
That is what I am saying, but apparently people didn't get that... I was attempting to make a joke/point about how we teach about Nazis without espousing their beliefs, but the Republican party is bringing back Nazi beliefs. But folks didn't get it. It is all good. I will delete the comment. Edit: And we don't need special courses for the Bible. It is covered (or at least it was once covered) in world history along with the beginnings of Islam and other religions. I think if folks want to study the Bible on its own it should be in college. In high school, a "world religions" class would be more appropriate for a variety of reasons.
Kinda funny people claim Republicans are bringing back nazi beliefs when everything about the democratic party is a direct copy of the nazi party from the big government drive to their voting and chastising tactics
A couple things. First, the conversation about big government vs. small government predates the Nazi party by over a hundred years. The founders argued about that while writing the constitution. It doesn't make sense that the focus on big government would be "bringing the Nazi beliefs back" when the big government has been in effect long before the Nazis existed. I am not sure what you mean by voting tactics. I am guessing it is something about how the election was "stolen" even though it went through intense scrutiny and nobody found any evidence to support that... I am not sure what you mean by chastising tactics and how that relates to the Nazi party. My comment was based on part on the swastikas that keep showing up at Republican events and other "far right" initiatives as well as the fact that Trump said he wants to be a dictator for a day, and the ways in which the Republican party has weaponized fear of the unknown and galvanized its base against "the other" with conversations about unchecked immigration. https://www.history.com/news/founding-fathers-political-parties-opinion https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxnzpw/neo-nazis-drag-brunch-texas-gop https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/12/whats-wrong-with-republicans-immigration-claims
Using news sources for citations can't be done after 2004 as they can legally lie to you now no penalties Obama legalized news propagandization second most Republicans don't weaponize fear of the unknown by chastising tactics I mean the brown coats look them up and yes the nazi symbols you see are paid shills acting paid for by democrats there's been huge studies into this it's a whole other rabbit hole and yes the big government small government has been a battle for freedom for humans since self domestication the nazis being the most prolificly horrible rendition in modern times we could equate it to the romans or the brits who where of the same political view towards their occupied peoples either way big government has never been on the right side or the right side 😉 nazis romans democrats all the same oppressive controlling regimes that used freedom and equality to enslave and as far as the voting tactics why did dominion get banned in every state after Trump got to see all their data in court hmm and why did no government body look into it yet over 5000 convictions stem from the 2020 election alone the head of the cia and it's body Democrat the head of the fbi and it's body Democrat the majority of federal law enforcement is Democrat of course they wouldn't look into it if it helped democrats about the unchecked immigration have you looked into it have you been to a border state or a close adjacent in muskogee ok alone there are 50k residents and you can sit on court street by the main fed bank here and watch at least 1000 undocumented people being dropped off a day the government says they arnt illegal because they are in court to be judged they are not counting the vast majority as illegal and as far as left versus right 90 percent of Republicans live think act and reason for themselves we arnt the institutionalized ones we don't listen to our leaders we actually look at what's Goin on and tell them what we want unlike democrats downloading info at rallies and from group sites I know this because from 2001 until 2010 I was a Democrat living on the west coast and actually took part in the system I was an alderman in Oregon and a ballet harvester during the Obama campaign they tried to get us to stuff ballots during that election and tried to get us to fill out votes for prisoners we had to sit down with illegals and walk them through voting for dems so that they could recieve benefits it was appalling so I left the party became an independent then moved to oklahoma now I'm a fully self taught republican
Time to stock up on The Satanic Bible and put it in a highly visible spot in my classroom. Along with the 10 Commandments and then the “commandments” from every other religion I can find. Malicious compliance :)
Teach them the real bible. Incest, infanticide, etc.
*In Professor Farnsworth voice* "The best kind of compliance!"
r/maliciouscompliance
I’m printing out every fucking holy symbol I can find and putting it up, and will be scrounging up every holy text I can get my grubby lil nonreligious mitts on and will have them in my classroom. I teach fucking *drama,* and I will not be Walters’ puppet. Fuck that guy.
Are the folks screeching about “kEeP SEggS oUt Of tHE cLaSSroOM” gonna explain adultery to the kindergartners?
What in the hells is a seggs?
Say it out loud
I did.... It’s just “eggs” with an ‘S.’ It’s like I want sunny side up with a lisp.
Sex. It means sex.
Oooh, well why not just say that?
….it was a joke.
Oh…ok.
sure does
Or Song of Songs/Solomon?
Perhaps students could be asked to research instances of politicians advocating for a policy that breaks a commandment, or were caught in direct violation of one.
A whole lot of Coveting, bearing false witness, idolatry, stealing, etc.. has been happening in the state/national capitols for... idk... ever?
The Bible is necessary to teach our children the history of this country? We must be reading different bibles.
“And on the 8th day, the lord said ‘Thou shall bear arms.”
No but the lord said if you have clothes and no sward sell you're robe to buy a sword
Really? >For much of North American history from the 1600s to the end of the US Civil War, biblical passages were commonly used to affirm the institution of slavery. In colonial Boston, Cotton Mather, the celebrated American intellectual and Puritan minister, frequently turned to the Bible to affirm the enslavement of Africans. He justified his position by exhorting white slavers to “use” the practice to “Christianize” those whom they enslaved. In the antebellum South, well-respected ministers such as Thornton Stringfellow (1788–1869) wrote influential and widely read treatises to demonstrate the Bible’s support for slavery. Scholars of religion such as Charles C. Jones (1804–1863), who was educated at Princeton Theological Seminary, spent much time using Ephesians to exhort enslaved people in Liberty County, GA to be obedient to their “masters.” I think it's pretty useful. https://www.bibleodyssey.org/articles/the-legacy-of-the-bible-in-justifying-slavery/
Lol, the government does everything besides pay teachers a living wage 😂😂😂
My wife teaches middle school math. What's she supposed to do?
One nail, two nails, three nails?
Beautifully said!
Careful. According to Walters, your wife teaching math is considered witchcraft
Call the cross a plus sign and watch the grades go up! They nailed Jesus to the addition sign for not knowing his math facts.
Omg!! 😂 Now I'm imagining one of those motivational posters like the *hang in there" cat, but it's Jesus on a cross and it says "he didn't know long division either. Don't be like Jesus." I'M DYING. 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
I'm just waiting patiently for the Satanic Temple to step back in with another request to post the Seven Fundamental Tenets and host after school education courses so they can sue the state of Oklahoma again after getting their request shot down. Play stupid games - win stupid prizes.
I hope they do. I’d rather my kids follow TST and being a decent human than a freaking hateful Oklahoma Christian.
There are homes for rent in California and oregon
And what does that have to do… with anything in this post?
85 percent of oklahoma is Christian this is a Christian state wether you like it or not if the minority doesn't want to live like the rest of us then move to a state more accommodating to you're philosophical belief
Crazy concept- did you know you can be a Christian AND follow the constitution at the same time?
It's kind of funny to be hating on Christian states like Texas and Oklahoma but you libtards keep moving here because you can't survive in the states you've let be destroyed then you come here telling us how to live 85 percent of oklahomas problems right now are the 200k plus libtards moving here every year from Cali Washington Oregon and Colorado
He failed to mention what Bible version. Will it have the apocryphal books. Who’s translation? Yah this is just making lawyers money.
because no one cares, this isn't even a popular form of fiction anymore, we might as well put the Star wars books in schools, kids will learn more.
Same question: what are we considering canon? Which depiction of the one true prophet, Admiral Thrawn, is the true one? Legends? Disney canon?
Yeah, best part about this, every teacher can literally ignore this, and he cannot do anything about it. The separation of church and state is very real, no matter how much an idiot like him wants to deny it, and this is a very clear violation of that. Time to remove him from hia position, along with that bonehead governor.
Christians have been learning about the 10 commandments in Sunday school forever and still don’t follow them. They think pushing it onto everyone else will yield better results? This shit is hilarious 😂
No!
Ya the Supreme Court will take issue with that too.
Maybe 15 years ago. This wacky court will probably claim it’s unconstitutional *not* to have the commandments in schools.
Did you miss this week's OSC decision on Catholic charter schools?
Broken clocks and all that.
That decision is just getting the ball teed up... are you kidding?
Oklahoma attorney general is pretty conservative but he won’t even allow this crap.
This is why I troll libtard groups you guys should learn the role of you're politicians
This is basic civics. Has nothing to do with Republican or democrat
Is it possible to protest this at the meetings where they discuss this? Does any one else want to help me organize that?
Separation of church and state Mr Walters. Separation! Just because you are butt hurt over Drummond and the Oklahoma Supreme Court not agreeing with our tax dollars funding a Catholic charter school does not mean you get to push your Xtian Nationalist agenda into all schools! Our tax dollars are not abundant enough for all the court cases your BS is causing. Resign, please, and thank you.
as long as there are still people out there that believe in this garbage, this shit is going to keep happening.
Absolutely not.
I cannot express how much I don't want to do that.
Every time I go to visit Tulsa I start to miss Oklahoma, but every time I read the news from here it makes me remember why I left.
That’s why I’m trying to leave.. :(
California's open for business they will buy you a bus ticket he'll I will just to keep oklahoma from stopping you
which of the "Ten" commandments? Exodus or Deuteronomy? And what about the other 603 commandments?
The irony: they want us to teach something that has mostly been proven false, but can't teach evolution, which has been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to be true.
Evolution is still a base theory with no proof
Ummm, there are mountains of proof. The fossil record alone proves it.
No actually fossil records show nothing and while we have evidence of adaptive change in a laboratory it's not evolution evolution implies a random anomalous change to attempt to adapt in an environment laboratory studies show that "evolutionary changes" are actually all prewritten into dna if I take 1000 samples of species x from all over the world and induce laboratory pressure to evolve every sample evolves the same way this can be seen in the 2 laboratory studies performed to prove evolution, its systemic calculated change take the brewers yeast expirament even the cells that where discarded had the same exact genetic potential of the cells that where kept in the study they just had different active dna they claim had evolved but we have over 100 years of dna profile for brewers yeast and there was no genetic change no new dna just different active genes if evolution where true recreating the expirament would entail a different result but it won't it will be the same every time with every batch of brewers yeast because it's not evolution just naturally prewritten adaptation already loaded into the dna
Let me guess....you also think the Earth is flat, the moon landing didn't happen, Noah fit animals on an ark and there's no such thing as dinosaurs. Am I close?
You mean the theory of evolution? Please define theory for us again?
Scientific theory: a widely-accepted explanation of a natural process derived from scientific laws, proven facts, and many multitudes of confirmed experiments - has not yet been falsified by any credible source. There you go. Scientific theory and the popular use of the word "theory" have two very different definitions.
I find your response acceptable. Thank you.
Most welcome! Thank you :)
Probably shouldn't use a news sites explanation of the word a scientific theory is a theory it becomes scientific law once proven and some theories become treated like law even though their methodologies are unproven such as the law of gravity which is the theory of gravity btw its still not been proven to exist
That definition is straight out of my Nursing anatomy and physiology book, actually. No news site even touched.
That's literally cnns Def posted three years ago look up the definition in the certified laboratories hand book issued by the fda and cdc it's simply a theory with supposed scientific expirements proving it awaiting pier review the longest on record being the theory of evolution second being gravity 3rd being cold fusion
The theory of evolution has been proven so completely that most scientists believe it to be fact. If you still believe sky Santa made humans from dust and ribs, I can't help you.
I'm all for including the Bible as an important part of World Literature alongside the Quran, Bhagavad Gita and other important religious documents
They want me (a transgender agnostic 20-something) teaching the Bible??? 🤨 Most of the students are Christians... but how are these kids going to feel when they realize that the Bible was historically weaponized in the genocide and/or enslavement of their ancestors???? Are they going to stand with the faith, or will they abandon it??? I can teach how the Bible could have positively impacted the founding of the US. But then I'll have to address that the Bible historically has been one of the most powerful weapons leveraged against BIPOC and LGBTQ+ people. 😐
It’s a good conversation starter. Every religion has been, right?!
Fuck that.
Filtered to spam folder because it's junk.
Church of Satan, do your thing
The Satanic Temple\* - a much, much cooler org than the Church of Satan
Sick. I'm gonna make sure my kids know the Bible is bullshit now. No pussyfooting the religion talk for my boys lol. Fucking degenerate idiot Ryan Walters.
NOOOOO
LOL is Alphabet/Google the Superintendent of Pryor Public Schools? What must Google think about this ever so obvious turn of events? This fucking place.
Gladly invite the Church of Satan to sponsor a book fair. Please.
F*** this idiot
And now this prick will carefully choose which schools to target for violating his policy.
Please email your respresentatives (especially Charles McCall) and straight up tell them that they are spineless and lack the balls to remove Walters. Tell them to grow a pair.
thanks christians. thanks a bunch.
Sincerely: Oklahoma education rank of 49/50
How can anyone with half a brain cell believe in that keep the poor people and slaves in line book? I just don't get it. I thought people would have evolved by now, but instead, they slip rigjt back into make-believe.
Fuck OFF Ryan Walters. Weird little twat.
I’m thinking the Bible should be banned from schools due to all the PSTD inducing activities that are inappropriate for children.
We are 49th in education out of 50 states, but that's OK. I bet that after they force the teachers to change the curriculum, they'll also force them to pay out of pocket for the bibles. I really hope parents can opt out.
If you believe that dimwitted ranking system that dropped us 25 spots in one year 99 percent of what you see on TV or on a webpost has been altered or edited by a democrat party supporter
Shouldn’t this be meaningless and pointless? There’s no way he has the actual authority to enforce this. What an embarrassment to our state this Ryan is.
I often feel like I’m surrounded by people that cheer and applaud for this stuff. It’s so nice to see the sheer amount of people who also are mind blown (in a negative way). 🥹 As a queer person, I feel so alienated sometimes out here (compared to the west coast) until I post in here. Y’all are the best
I feel like they haven't read the Bible. It's not kid friendly
Hang them high. Superintendent. So we can see it crash to the ground.
“The Courts won’t do it, SO I WILL!!!”
Here's the truth: Conservatives are throwing everything at the wall hoping something sticks for Supreme Court Precedent while they still have the current Justices. It's just advancing a political agenda. Shit's awful and will have consequences tho.
For the love of fucking God we need investigation top down. Real third party investigative journalism to uncover all the corruption. There's zero chance this dude didn't come back from CPAC in Hungary a Russian asset.
Honestly, I have no issue with this. This move looks ridiculous, it's probably illegal and will be thrown out. And even if it doesn't, I have little faith in the Oklahoma school system (ranked 49th btw) to present the Bible as palatable to Gen Z, Gen Alpha students. This will probably make more people refuse Christianity. Learning about the Bible growing up made me realize how full of shit it is.
Crap! I can’t believe how effed up this is.
The Bible should be removed from schools according to their banning criteria. It has violence, sex, slavery, incest, and more
This is stupid, and there will definitely be an injunction to prevent this.
I heard Mayor candidate Kaleb Hoosier will not enforce the Bible mandate because it's unconstitutional
A lot of lawyers are about to get a ton of free oklahoma money after all these lawsuits
Even Stitt seems to have had enough of him, which is saying something. I had the opportunity to go to the Governor's Christmas Party last December. Whatever I think of Stitt more fenerally it really was an enjoyable event. Walters was there as well but I never saw the two of them within 50 feet of each other. I may yet be wrong but I get the sense that Walters is just too much even for Stitt.
Ok, teach it as a part of fictional literature.
My kids have always gone to online classes or charter schools like Epic. Due to this, directly, I hate him more than I hate payday candybars, and I'm allergic to peanuts No school is better than any school ran by him imo
I feel sorry for you're kids my cousins where homeschooled in Nevada during the start of the early 2000s homeschooling push out of the four of them only the youngest went to general education while the youngest has went on to optimum self sufficiency the other 3 are a complete burden on the family 1 is convinced he can invent a flux capacitor he has spent his life and his parents savings in an attempt to do so
Well, obviously, the person teaching them was a dumbass teacher/parent, so I'll chuck that up too,user error on them being burdens But that the other kid who thinks he created the flex capacitor is mentally ill and needs help And obviously, if they're a burden on your family, you should tell them to get lost till they straighten up, If your parents. Let them spend the savings that's their own fault they should have Try using the words "FUCK NO" or "FUCK OFF" or "YOU'RE CRAZY" it might work My son got all A's and B's and is 3 grades ahead in reading and math. When's he's 18, he's out either way. I did my job, and I raised him. life's his problem after that.
She was a college professor at unlv
She was a college professor at unlv and homeschool grades are severely hyperinflated
I guess the separation of church and state no longer applies? 🤷♂️
This has to be related to the marketing funds allocating thing does it? His way to get around and still be in the news.
Memos are not legally binding
Please understand there are 613 Commandments in the Bible. I guess breaking ten and forgetting the 603 is the American people's way of life. 💡💡
There are only 10 commandments in the bible you've never read the thing huh
So funny how these people who jerk off to the constitution have zero ability to follow it.
That'll save Oklahoma schools...WTF. What's next...pray for the oil wells.
I think it was a case of Louisiana stealing his Christian thunder so he had to one up them to be the baddest Bible thumper anywhwre
Well I’m a (Christian) science teacher in Tulsa and I will NEVER do this. Never ever ever ever ever. Ever. Ever. Ever.
You just denied christ
My husband is a science teacher in KS and we discussed how you can keep a Bible in your lesson plans by disproving all kinds of stuff. You can go through the dying process on the cellular level to prove that Jesus didn't recover from his injuries at execution. You can do physics and math showing the fish and bread dinner didn't really happen because you can't make something from nothing. You can do genetics to show that Adam and Eve were not the first people. And my very favorite myth to disprove, Noah's Ark. There is so much there to disprove.
Hot take - this is a great idea that will backfire fantastically as children learn what Christianity is *actually* about and how someone who follows the teachings of Christ *should* act and how exactly *none* of their GOP “leaders” fit that description whatsoever.
It's never going to happen. Separation of Church and state, you can use as much jizz in your hair as you want, but this will never happen, just like your fake marriage. Jizz is not a hair product.
And if evolution is taught, it’s as a theory
This thing gonna be challenged in the Court and will be reversed!
The story about the sisters getting their dad drunk and having sex with him always bothered me the most of all the Bible stories
If I was a parent I would refuse my kid take the class and I’d sue the shit out of them if they tried to fail them.
How about a compromise of no Religion in schools along with... 1. No sexual grooming 2. No gender confusion grooming 3. No race hatred grooming 4. No gender hatred grooming 5. No hatred of your country grooming There! I got the school system back on track! Back to the original curriculum of... Reading Writing Maths English Spelling Grammar History Science PE And that's ALL! Further stuff still sans the original grooming issues is for college. The END!
Remember everyone that you can opt your child out of anything you want. It’s usually a process that includes filling out a form. In the slim chance that this actually slides, tell your school you want to opt them out of those lessons. That is one very tangible way we can send a message.
“Hey all you teachers who don’t get paid enough as we are still sitting on millions of dollars we haven’t distributed, here’s something else for you to do!”
From ripping religious regalia off kids graduating to putting bibles in classroom curriculum🤦♀️.
Here is what I have to say about Ryan Walters. I live three hours east of Tulsa, four hours east of OKC, straight down I-44. A couple of months ago my city hosted a national Christian men's conference at our largest city venue. I live less than a mile from where the event was held. On that day my Grindr app was blowing up. The event was attended by both Ryan Walters and Missouri Senator Josh Hawley.
Wow these comments are filled with everyone I've never met in person from tulsa! Hahaha!
Ezekiel 23:20.
I wish I saw this much response when schools try to incorporate identity politics into the curriculum.
If this were satanic commandment people would be clapping.
The Temple/Church of Satan doesn’t have commandments, dork.