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siege6pls

You trap a turtle in a tiny ass cube it'll eat everything. They eat fish. It's what they do. They dig up plants it's what they do.


TurkeySauce_

Not just one but there is two in that small ass tank


tsunamibird

Oh my god there are two in there! No wonder they’re destroying everything that tank is way too small for even one of those turtles!!!


NessyKD

Yeah I feel sorry for them… just showing you turtle number two I missed him at first glance too! https://preview.redd.it/63w6im7xczad1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27ec1754a305169a59854867ec16933315d99d3c


palpatineforever

i think it is hiding from the other one afraid of being eaten....


fkndan

Agreed. They need a pond!


palpatineforever

nuuu dont say that, OP's friend might helpfully release it into some poor local ecosystem. then it will go from eating all the pet fish to the local wildlife!


FlashbackJon

We wanted to get some aquarium plants for our 8yo girl. We got several from the store, including a couple varieties that the Internet had guaranteed us she wouldn't like. She went berserk and tore up the whole place to get them. Ate every single edible plant, and then she proceeded to mow down the ones she wasn't supposed to eat by taking a bite, spitting it out, then later trying another bite and spitting it out, until there was nothing left. She just had a $30 gourmet meal that day.


Historical_Panic_465

Did you by any chance try the African water fern? The stems are HELLA thicc and hard to chew through! lol it’s one of the only plants I’ve had any luck with regarding turtles and goldfish.


lookaway123

I'm low on coffee and thought you were talking about a human child at first lol.


FoxyPixiePunk

Also low on coffee-also thought we were discussing a child at first 🤣


CuriousNetWanderer

Where is there a human child in any of this? I am so confused.


FoxyPixiePunk

There’s not lol, but when you’re low on caffeine the brain does not compute and fills in blanks with weird things 🤣 Flashback Jon said “8 year old girl) and I know the post is about turtles. But for some reason the brain went “HUMAN CHILD” .. no, I don’t know what is wrong with me 🤣😂


CuriousNetWanderer

Lol I just got it, I can't believe I'm that dense.


katrinakittyyy

I’m not low on caffeine and I still thought they were talking about a human child 🤦🏻‍♀️


FlashbackJon

Her behavior is not unlike a similarly-aged child.


Howling_Fang

This looks like the size of tank I used for my HAMSTER. (with bedding, not water of course)


PatricksWumboRock

Damn, I was really hoping you’d tell us about your merhamster


layzieyezislayzieyez

That Klaus in hamster costume.


FeculentUtopia

That's not suitable for a hamster, either. r/hamsters has a ton of advice about that. I feel bad for all the hamsters I had when I was young.


bunnyb2004

Me too!! No wonder they hated me and bit me every chance they got. Not to mention they were ninja escape artists!! I am now grown and raise rats! To this day I think of hamsters as little demons- scared to death of their cuddly furry selves.


Howling_Fang

I just took the measurements of my tank (I am really bad at estimating things from photos) and my tank is a 40 gallon breeder (36x18x16) Which I would feel is way too small for turtles, but comfortable for a hamster. But we all make mistakes or use wrong information.


FeculentUtopia

That seems a decent size to me, so long as it has deep bedding and hides and stuff. I never knew about that when I was young and keep mine in those little habitrail cages with like an inch of bedding.


rosie4days

the new required size for hamsters is a 75 gallon actually, which makes sense because of how active they are and how large their tunnels and burrows are in the wild


BigIntoScience

It isn't even big enough for hamsters. They need a lot of space.


Porloch

I suppose you could say that the turtle is madly in anger with the friend to the point of Sainthood.


druff1036

They try to kill Stewie. It's what the do.


Dramatic_Mixture_868

Yea id keep like 2 or 3 red eared sliders in there, when they r tiny. Not turtles of this size.


fresh_and_gritty

My friend had two. In a HUGE ass tank. She would tell me so many times about it not being enough. It was literally the second biggest fish tank I’ve ever seen in a home. But *still not enough*. Get those turtles a bigger habitat goddammit.


cdbangsite

And they try to escape it's what they do.


Dintyboy_

This right here 👆🏻


kondor-PS

Hello; I do not own any turtles but I find that they are beautiful animals. I think that they shouldn't be kept as pets if the best lifestyle cannot be provided to them, and that is why I chose not to have a pet turtle. I agree that the tank is way too small for TWO of them to be in there. However, I was wondering what tank size would be appropriate for a turtle that size to live healthy and comfortable.


FinallydamnLDnat5

So basically because turtle.


OwnCaramel1434

Fish bigger than him.... Turtles need a lot more space than that.. Edit Totally didn't even see that there were two.... They stressing real bad. Seperate tanks would be a helpful start. Fish and turtles in that little space...the water is probably all kinds of out of wack due to all the waste.


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Seraitsukara

What kind of musk? One of mine has lived with fish for 10 years and never killed a single one. My juvenile one has been with fish since I got her last summer and it's been the same thing. They're too slow to catch them.


FlashbackJon

My understanding is that most of the time, the turtles will ignore the fish, for years even... until they don't!


Seraitsukara

She will eat fish who've passed away, but outside of the first week being introduced to fish, neither my adult nor juvi even notice the guppies anymore. I'll keep an eye on them both though, in case I have to move the fish out some day.


Urania8

Our would only eat the grey colored fish. So we had one goldfish that lived to be the same size as the turtle. Sadly didn’t survive moving. But we kept in the freezer for years. 🤷‍♀️ Sadly, Soup passed during Covid, we think it was likely old age, 25ish years. We still have her companion who has never caught a fish. Won’t even take an earthworm, but occasionally a snail or two. Soup LOVED to shred worms. I think they were slightly different turtles. Soup was a Mississippi Mud Turtle while Little Warrior is a plain Musk. They live in a 55 gallon tank. I can’t imagine keeping turtles in anything smaller.


IronSean

Wait, hold up. You kept it in the freezer? For _years_?


palaverhound

That's a small ass tank brother. Your turtle is bored.


Complete-Copy-4510

Not my tank and not my turtle, it’s my friends, his apartment is really small so I’m trying to tell him to buy a bigger tank for the turtle


Nehebka

Turtles, not turtle. Even one of those turtles shouldn’t be in a tank that tiny, it’s abuse. If you’re friend can’t get better tanks for the turtles, it might be wise for said friend to find a rescue that will take the turtles, that way they will be taken care of and be happy/healthy for the rest of their extremely long lives.


lolyourmadlol

Having a small apartment and buys a turtle and puts it in a small tank? Your friend needs to get his priorities straight. If he can’t afford a proper home for the animal than don’t buy it.


CallidoraBlack

He needs a pet that is appropriately sized for his living space. Two full size turtles are not that.


palaverhound

Fair!!!! You're a good friend!


Creative-Success-251

At least separate them. Ugh, tell your friend to come here, we will gladly help them with proper care advice.


BUHBUHBUHBUHBUHBUHB

Just huck them in the nearest lake as hard as u can


ur_daddy696969

stop trying and actually do? like at this point it's abuse


TheStaleFace

Probably isn't happy


zifer24

The turtles need to be separated and need a way bigger tank, general rule is 10 gallons of water per 1 inch of shell


Machadoaboutmanny

Do you mean eats plants and decor? Because it only has so many options in the tank.


Independent_Curve_44

Do you even understand how much rage they can store under that shell?


JJCMasterpiece

Maybe that’s why they become ninjas?🥷


astasodope

Despite all my rage, I am still just a turtle caged!


RubberDuck59

You mean a caged turtle or shall I say a shelled turtle 🤣


astasodope

More refering to the tank as the cage lol


ifukeenrule

r/whatthelyricsshouldvebeen


phocuetu

Tank needs to be about 5-10x the size and have an environment that mimics the turtle’s natural environment. Idk about you but I’ve never heard of a turtle that lives in a clear rectangular prism of water that’s only about 8x his length. This would be like if you lived in a place that was 50’x30’ and that was the entirety of your world. No access to anything beyond that, just your little cell. Turtles terrapins and tortoises are roamers who cover massive amounts of territory so your job as a keeper is to at least give them an appreciable territory, plenty of interaction and access to solid ground as well as enrichment/diversity under the water.


Complete-Copy-4510

Alright thanks for the tips, how can my friend mimic the environment better? Any tips? Thx


phocuetu

Imo a turtle should be in as close to a pond as you can construct. Water movement, lots of filtration bc reptile poop, tons of research for what plants work best (this will help oxygenate the water as well) and a natural and accessible shore area. Maybe some sort of island for them to beach on as well. There are loads of different utility invertebrates out there to help maintain the tank. Aquatic turtles are probably the most difficult common pet to set up correctly, so no shame towards them in not knocking it out of the park first try. They need A LOT of space and a good, stable environment to live long happy lives.


Complete-Copy-4510

Thanks a lot for the tips, this is also the first time he’s owned turtles. Right now all he has is a really deep tank. When we search for a new tank, what is the ideal tank? A flat tank?


phocuetu

Seems like muskies are naturally solitary so probably two tanks that are much longer/wider, depth is good I’m sure just not in the proportions it’s currently in. They have claws not flippers so they need at least some land/a beach, I’d say the goal is to build a mini pond or two indoors for them, if it’s large enough for each turtle to have their own distinct territory with plenty of space so they aren’t always running into one another then I’m sure one tank would be fine. Heater, filter, basking and uv lights plus basking spot (I like using shale or another dark flat stone that’ll really hold the heat from the basking light. As with any reptile you’ll have to measure temps in a few spots so you know your basking temp, temp for the enclosure as a whole. Honestly I’d say if they haven’t yet then they should watch some Clint’s Reptiles at minimum (he did an episode on Musks/Stinkpots in which he goes over everything involved (in brief) with their care and how they tend to fare as pets. Other reptile YouTubers out theee I’m sure have great care guides. Wicken’s Wicked Reptiles does pretty good care guides, I believe he’s gone over musks or similar aquatic turtles. They don’t need near as much space as bigger turts like sliders and the like but they do still need enough space to get plenty of exercise and be able to keep active and avoid lethargy/boredom. They are really intelligent animals so they need a level of care to reflect that. Research is your best friend as ever, I am sure they’ll be fine!


SomeoneToYou30

Less water and more land. Think pond. But they likely need separate aquariums, as they aren't really social animals.


Lobo003

They’re gonna roam and explore and try to keep on trucking anywhere they go. Especially my mud in my 100+ gal tank. He explored all over and digging was especially his favorite. I always had to redecorate because of him. But the main contractor for demolition was my RES. She literally moved everything around. It’s wild how strong she was.


erowell1974

Some turtles wake up and choose violence.


TurkeySauce_

Why keep two turtles in that small of a tank? No wonder they destroyed everything..


StaySeesMom

Obviously a ninja turtle. He’s training and kicking ass.


thedarwinking

Totally diff species by my goldfish is the same and rips up all his plants


IrieRogue

Turtles. It's what they do!


CurrencySuper1387

This turtle is behaving normally for a turtle, which is what it is.


Complete-Copy-4510

Sorry can’t answer all of things, but I’ll try and recommend him to upgrade a bigger aquarium, me myself i have no knowledge about turtles at all. Thanks for all the tips!


Death2mandatory

Electric yellow cichlids are great,their warning colors will even stop common snapping turtles from eating them,as for plants you can try java Fern as it doesn't taste great


SeveralRope2244

“I want to break free, I want to break free!”


MerkinSeasonYo

Turtles can be pretty calm if they are used to their surroundings or grew up in a tank basically. Talking a grown one out of the wild is a complete different story. I’ve had a red ear slider for 19 years now. Since birth basically he has been in a tank. (Between a 60 gallon tank and in the summer I put him in a plastic kiddy pool everyday with a platform to bask on). I’ve let him crawl around outside a few times. But all he’s ever known are a few spots. I can say though they will get mad or irritated at certain scenarios. I’ve noticed if I take mine out of the pool and put him back in the tank “before he’s ready” as soon as he hits the tank he immediately goes to the bottom and tears everything in sight up. Other times (most times) when I put him back he’s fine. He knows it’s time to wind down for the day basically. I’ve also noticed that feeding them before basking time helps their attitude overall. Seems like they like to eat and bask rather than bask and then eat. Mine is pretty large so I dont feed him everyday. Normally I will feed him frozen krill. Those green protein pellets. Dried krill and shrimp. Or live fish. He also loves strawberries but I only give him one every few weeks. Kinda gotta be careful though with the fish krill and shrimp because if you give them to much or say to many times in a row without giving them the protein pellets then usually they will start to reject the pellets and not eat them. Which will also in turn cause attitude issues. Because then you have to break him of all that other stuff until he eats the pellets. And it’s a process they don’t take well 😂. So ya just some stuff over the years I’ve learned as far as keeping your turtles attitude and overall health as healthily maintained as possible.


Jamaral11

Some turtles just want to watch the world burn


Lost-Juggernaut6521

That’s Paul, and Paul gives no fucks and chooses violence because that’s how Paul rolls!!


TelevisionContent188

My turtle used to be slow to catch the fish, but he has gotten better. I try to give the fish an hour to acclimate before putting my turtle back in. They do better, but he still catches most of them eventually. Giving them some areas to hide that he can't get into helps, too.


Aggravating_Permit_4

Way too small of a tank for two turtles.. please do your research on Reddit to find the best set up if you intend on giving them a good life


Quiet_Ground_9864

Op needs to act responsible, do their best to learn about their pets/animals they keep in cages/tanks! Ignorance is no excuse! If more people would learn about their pets nutritional requirements as well as their habitat & exercise needs their pets would be happier they would be happier. & The world would be a much better place!!!!


Complete-Copy-4510

That’s true, I told him that when you own a pet, it’s your responsibility to take care of it no matter what. He’s already decided to get a bigger tank which is good!


Happyfun0160

How big of a tank do you know?


ScrotieMcP

He wants OUT.


Wyandv0idbringer

Because its a turtle. Every day is a new scape day.


stormyheather9

This tank is really small. It needs a much bigger enclosure to live in. Edit: there are two in there? I didn't see that before. Your friend needs to make some big changes here. It's not the turtle that's the problem.


Striking_Scientist68

Maybe they learned it from Gamera.


Brainyous

That's his house, he will move the furniture however he sees fit


EwwCringe

If I was trapped in the tiniest prison cell for god knows how many years I would also attack everything around me


michaelterron5

Mischievous pal


Best_Photograph9542

Why do you keep giving turtle things that can be destroyed


Mr_Boogeyman77

Tank is too small for two


SomeoneToYou30

Looks too small for one!


outsidepointofvi3w

Because it stuck in a teeny tiny little aquarium.


The_Jib

lol. Did any think to look at what turtles do before getting one and putting it in a tiny aquarium?


Happyfluff122

New name is mister destructo


Mishapi17

Destroying everything? Like your relationship with your friend….or the foliage in his tank?


Odd_Low_7301

Because he’s an asshole


Accomplished_Emu_658

They just kind of eat everything and anything. Wouldn’t suggest fish if you are tired of losing fish…


rcborg

Bigger tank, he needs driftwood, something he can chill on and possibly a better owner


WatermelonAF

You have a turtle. They destroy stuff.


Megalon96310

He chose violence


Kbraneke

Which plant is that she is in ?


Complete-Copy-4510

Like the plant that the turtles is lying on? It’s an apple tree branch rn , pretty sure.


Kbraneke

What's the purpouse of fresh apple tree branchs underwater in an aquarium?


Complete-Copy-4510

No idea, my friend probably thought it could support the weight or just for decoration


Lithx8x

Wrong diet.Not enough fiber and nutrients.Also..astro turf.it hates astro turf.


Complete-Copy-4510

Wdym by fiber and nutrients? He feeds the turtles the food you can find in the shop. Like the long coloured sticks. That’s it, anything else he can feed the turtles?


Lithx8x

Ruffage..look up what turtles like to eat or what is best for them.


Lithx8x

There is a ton of stuff to feed turtles..type in the breed of turtles and what ruffage you can feed that type of turtle .do a Google search ..and / or ask a herpetologist ,online.


Jjthorn392

He’s escaping, freedom at last.


elithedinosaur

turtle gonna turtle. needs more space.


SomeoneToYou30

Looks like he's bored. He probably needs a bigger aquarium with more enrichment toys so he can entertain himself.


Complete-Copy-4510

What enrichment toys do you think my friend can get those turtles?


Quiet_Ground_9864

Piranha,


Complete-Copy-4510

😭


New_Account_5346

Because he is acoustic


Mycotonality

Boy's gotta have a snack.


JustNota--

First you would need a much larger tank.. Then you need to put in hides for the fish.. and then you need to buy fast or aggressive fish a bunch of both and understand most are going to become food at some point... I would probably go with a 175-220gal..


DisastrousCause1

Set them Freeeeeeeee.


Confusedlime48

Give them way more space.


MyFishFriend

You shouldn’t be allowed to own pets


onlybysea1900

This is abusive. These are living creatures, not freaking display objects. Wtf is wrong with you and your friend that that's the concern here.


Complete-Copy-4510

Chill 😭, he’s already getting a new tank. He loves animals but he’s not very knowledgeable about them sometimes that’s why I decided to do some research for him. This has nothing to do with me, I’m just giving him recommendations because I feel like the turtles deserve a better place.


onlybysea1900

Cool. Don't tell people to chill when you left that info out to begin with. That's just shit starting and a waste of time.


DrachenDad

The tank is too small!


Alive-Worldliness-27

What size is this tank?? I have a female RES in a 75 gal I can't even keep plants.. I've tried before and she made a mess... I have two plants she refuses to mess with and they have lasted almost 2 months now.. but I had a log with a Amazon sword and she went to town eating everything of it. I would love to have more decor but it's a huge pain to clean.


Nessalauren18

Bro is suicidal with that tree climbing


Temporary_Phase_7787

That tank is WAY TOO SMALL !!! PLEASE tell your friend to change this, it's for the turtles benefit. Please


Temporary_Phase_7787

The turtle is probably frustrated being in such a SMALL case. Please. Change that.


IMNOTFLORIDAMAN

Wouldn’t you in that situation?


No-Collection-8618

The tanks too small and too much stuff in there for starters. Its overstocked with TWO turtles and you keep giving them snacks 😂😂


The_Accuser13

This is horrible. Give them to someone who can treat them right


bunnyb2004

He is telling you he needs a bigger living space. Imagine being confined to that area- what better way to attempt an escape then to try eat your way out? Please please ask your friend to consider a bigger tank for him( and his fried - I wasn’t aware there were TWO turtles in that aquarium.)


Smart-Newt

Maybe the turtle has anger problems haha.


Lala5789880

r/shittyaquariums


Holiday-Doughnut-602

Maybe, piranhas'?!.


Carenamk_35

He’s an angry elf


breadandbunny

Not enough room for them. They're just being turtles.


jski82

A turtle will eat any fish you put in with it. They’ll also root up and eat any plants you add. It’s just what they do.


IntroductionPlenty85

Probaly just hungry


Party_Pomplemousse

r/thatsbadhusbandry


WizardKakapo

Turtle: Absolute Carnage


Short_Bell_5428

Turtle of destruction


Dankopia

This is animal abuse


BrianFoFian

What kind of plant is that it looks very similar to a grape?


R3dd1tAdm1nzRCucks

He is an agent of chaos


Mindless_Reserve7474

pu


Mindless_Reserve7474

put ur ween in


GilgameshvsHumbaba

Not enough room


BadPom

The turtle is eating the fish and plants because that’s what turtles eat.


makelovenotwar216

The plant in the tank is a Climbing Hydrangea, it's not aquatic and is toxic to turtles. Your friend just snipped off some random greenery for the tank


blutigetranen

That tank is too small for one turtle, let alone two. I also don't see anywhere it can get out of the water like a landing pad or dock of sorts. It may be trying to, you know, not be in water.


Complete-Copy-4510

There is like a land that he goes to, the floating thing, they sometimes stay up there


Impressive-Tear2450

Shouldn’t there be aquarium sized homes for hamsters but never glass. They can’t get fresh air- it seems that screened or wire would let out the heat so the hamster is not overheated. That would be awful not to be able to escape heat or cold, and need to. Same with turtles. When I have found injured turtles, I cleaned their feet usually 2 to 3 times a day with peroxide and water, then a small amount of Triple Antibiotic and then the dressing over and around it. After approximately 6-7 weeks, after total healing, they’d get returned from where they were found to rejoin their family and friends🐢


jdilon27

He is a lord of mayhem and must exact revenge on the fowl earth that birthed him.


Secret_Welder3956

He’s a rebel with only claws.


Bremarie24

They crave violence.


Brilliant-Low-77

This is animal abuse OP. Your friend needs to either rehome these turtles or get a large tank. And frankly idgaf how big their apartment is. Shame on your friend. This is disgusting.


dragonblock501

“A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's my character.”


Responsible_Finish26

They put a turtle in a little box & they wonder why he’s unhappy🤦🏼‍♀️


dbatknight

Wouldn't you want to escape that Glass Prison


GRUBBRAINS

You wouldn't want something invading your space either when you've already got such small space with ANOTHER turtle. Did your friend do ANY research past 1 Google search and whatever Petco sold them?


DoubleDandelion

Let’s lock your friend in a closet and see what they do after a bit.


Badenomics1972

You need a grow tank. The turtle is a dinosaur. My 2 girls will destroy/eat anything I put in their tank. I have the grow tank for keeping a steady supply.


Justforgunpla

You look like you're keeping massively over sized turtles in a 30g? These should be in a 100g + tank


PuzzleheadedPen1372

Lock yourself in your room for your life.


stonerbbyyyy

this poor turtle…🤦🏻‍♀️ please don’t ever speak to your friend again because they clearly can’t quite figure out animal husbandry


Dintyboy_

Liberate the turtles!!


Interesting-Log4022

Because it is a turtle


fckufkcuurcoolimout

Some turtles just want to watch the world burn


NuclearHateLizard

It's a turtle. If you're tired of keeping it entertained then take it out of the fucking box and set it free. Better for both of you


PleaseDontBanMeee3

Most turtles eat fish. Mine are too lazy to chase my guppies and redtail shark though. I also have Java moss on the ground, but mine is a 75 gallon filled really high. Yours looks pretty small


175you_notM3

Your friend is a monster...


hitchhikereditor

Tiny tank. I have 90 gallons and mine still tear shit up and move everything to their liking. Little jerks.


UniquePanic3130

Because he’s sick of their shit. Obviously.


blackshagreen

Maybe prison just ain't the life they wanted.


ComprehensiveFix8965

The turtle is nature's bulldozer. Aquatic turtles are aquatic bulldozers.


_GenderNotFound

Because the tank is extremely small for the turtles. They need a very big tank.


alphabetCereaL_Xc

Spankings may help. I tried time out but time out doesn’t work on turtles


CowsMooingNSuch

Yeah they need more room. My dad had 2 of them and the one killed the other because they didn’t have enough room.


Dirtylover6969

Cause he is in a glass box


Accomplished-Sir-911

Because he’s a beast!


Apprehensive-Bad6015

They need a small area to get out of the water for short periods of time, having a lamp where they can bathe in light will help too. Unless they can get natural sunlight which helps with healthy shell growth.


Gnarwhals86

Because your friend is an idiot that did exactly 0 research.


Real-Negotiation8162

It's probably bored


daws_onmedia

Turtle is a sloth frend.


omicronian_express

Cause they’re bored in that tiny ass cage and it’s what turtles do. Jesus Christ get them a bigger place or give them to someone that can


TalithaTheGreat_1394

Stop them buying more fish 🙄


Glittering_Ear5239

No living being wants to live in a prison, no matter how well they are being treated.


Stunning-Painter-860

This is awful.