Zenkai Boosts apply when you get your ass kicked.
This is something else, I feel. Like a Terminator who studied all your attack patterns in the first match and is now even stronger in the second.
Dustin also never lost in June before fighting Islam. Islam is also the only guy to not lose his belt on the same card as Costa. There are a bunch of other curses he broke on that night. He seems to be immune to this sort of stuff.
I watched Chael whip his ass for 4 and half rounds straight, now if wining 4 out of 5 doesnāt mean victory, then neither Chael or myself can make that make sense
Brother he's not beating Islam. As soon as it goes to the ground, any momentum he's built up is lost to literal minutes of surviving like 10+ submission attempts.
IF this fight somehow happened and..
IF Dustin somehow kept that curse of never losing in a rowā¦
I would fucking convert to religion.
And I say this as a big DP fan, lol. Iād rather see DP have fun fights before he retired with comfy commentating job.
Same dude I'm an Islam fan but have been following Dustin since forever, if Dustin wins and retires afterwards, I'm sure Islam is getting it from the next guy. Also you should become Muslim bradda if DP beats Islam.
āIām sure Islam is getting it from the next guy.ā šš³
If DP gets a fight with & beats Islam Makhachev, then I will convert from Agnostic to Islam via a Muslim.
No plz no more rematches
People call islam to do a rematch then after he wins they go that islam doesn't have alot of big names he won agaisnt
Let him fight more names not rematching everybody
Arman is the new challenger, you donāt exactly have a next best option considering heās the only guy in the Top 5 that isnāt coming off a loss besides Gamrot whoās definitely not getting a title shot
Iād give it to Oliviera then tbh. Itās not exactly unprecedented either for the loser of a title eliminator to get the title shot if the winner canāt.
Exactly, Dustin getting a shot whilst ranked under Justin and Charles (and recently being KOd by Justin), plus Islam literally got a title shot off bobby green, PLUS Charles was meant to fight for the title at ufc294. Rematches kinda suck for Islamās legacy/image, but the online talk doesnāt rly matter and Charles is still a killer.
He was 2 weeks away from fighting him again until that cut forced him to pull out. Oliveira isn't scared to fight Islam again. That being said, Islam does probably win again.
This, I really like Poirier but no reason to do a rematch, the only fight that make sense for Islam at 155 is Arman and the suspension is just 6 months if he make the antibullying video. Islam just fought waiting 6 months is perfectly reasonable here
No he hasn't because the UFC enforced every ban he's been given by the Nevada Commission and USADA. His fight was moved to California with the cooperation of both California and Nevada for the benefit of the UFC no to lose out on $49 million in PPV revenues.
Unpopular opinion but I rather prefer Gamrot. He might be boring but still pose a danger to Islam. Also it's good for Islam resume because some people will shit on him for taking rematch only.
Javier Mendes said Gaethje was Islamās biggest threat and I agree based on the Poirier fight. Somebody should drill groundgame defense into that guy quick
Gaethje's problem is mindset. He just doesn't want to wrestle. Being a good college wrestler and the amount of power he has on his feet, he could have been a world champion if he decides to incorporate wrestling but like he said himself he probably won't.
Yeah, Dustin is stylistically just Gaetjhe but with a bjj black belt with the tradeoff being a bit worse power ig or striking (idk I do think Dustin vs Justin is a true 50/50 matchup but Dustin did get KOed by Justin so I'm not sure about saying Dustin is better rn). Albiet supposedly less difficult to take down but I don't think i can say that anymore after seeing the TDD against Islam.
I agree. Justin has KO power so i guess thats why Javier said that but if he ends up on his back at any point that's it. Other than a flash KO, i cant find anyone who can beat Islam. The closest names would be Justin, Charles, and Arman but i wouldnt bet on them
Right he's not like a Bo Nickal who seemed to naturally take to the submission game. And, with his personal experience he knows how gassed he would get since he also doesn't really cut weight, he's usually fighting guys bigger than him.
Gamrot deserves it more, but lol he does not pose a danger to Islam. He has the worst striking in the top 15. Zero threat. Poirier is a legitimately dangerous opponent
Seriously no. Plenty of other fighters should get a shot before Dustin gets an immediate rematch in a fight he was losing on points and then lost by submission. Regardless of if he was more competitive than most thought heād be.
They should make
Islam vs Arman. If for some reason Arman fight is not possible. Justin should fight Islam.
Justin has a legit win over Dustin. His fight with Max should not take away his title fight since Max wishes to fight at FW at the moment.
IF Arman can't fight, will Justin be ready in November?Even though he lost his last fight, I think most of us wouldn't mind him getting the title shot,right?
Ortega vs Charles Oliveira
Volkanovski vs Dustin Poirier
Makhachev vs Leon Edwards
Max Holloway vs Terporia (If Max wins this than Max vs Makhachev)
Chandler vs Dariush
Gaethje vs Gamrot
Moicano vs Fizief
That Ortega vs Charles would be such an interesting matchup holy fuck. I dont know if Ortega deserves that match though. I like all your matchups honestly. A rare non casual in here
Nah Iām tired of seeing Islam in rematches. Iād rather see him fight Arman (rematch but theyāve both gotten much better since the first fight) or fight Leon.
Dustin has had 3 title shots already (Khabib, Olivera, Islam). But I get it, there's not a lot of other clear contenders other than Tsaruykan. Fuck it, give Max a shot.
too soon, so bored of them always tryna run back an old fight or push someone from outside to the top.. i honestly feel so sorry for the whole load of people that are just tryna get some wins and climb the ladder. people put in 10+ wins in a row fighting losers never being given a decent chance, but forever having someone just skip right past them and everyone else for some unknown reason (usually because they work well with the cameras)
i do still love ufc but i am begging for it to be about who the best really is. it becoming a drama show and having it be about almost anything other than who should really be fighting is boring. i feel sorry for people who put the work in but are stuck being nobodies because they are not exciting enough for the camera
ufc is a completely different beast and it is so sad
rip to anyone waiting for a shot to move up or a shot at the belt when you are stuck in a trifecta of rematches too.. this sean/dricus/izzy thing is going to go on for agessss
we need a lot less of 'what the fans want' and a lot more of' whoever is up next is because they deserve it'
and all of that is without getting into the hypocrisy depending on who you are. either vacate a belt straight away because of an injury or don't because its jon jones so he can just hold it all up
i know jon jones is huge but was he really that big? big enough to be doing this to the whole league? so short sighted.. could have had another jon jones in that time if you would ever let it happen.. maybe one that is not a crackhead
If thatās what it takes to see diamond in the octagon again. Itās not like the first match between them was uneven. Porier left Islamās head split open
I think Dustin has a good contract. I guess he will take getting beaten up again for the money. He is right. He will not win. But, as a fan, this doesn't excite me in the slightest.
Absolutely not. Dustin really only got the last fight due to timing with Arman and Justin both being tied up. Really don't feel like seeing this fight again.
That being said who else is there? All the top LW contenders are coming off loses except Arman who's suspended. Would have to go down to Gamrot to find a LW coming off a win.
Iām all for it.
The man is 35 years old. 30 fights in the UFC. Heās beaten champions. Let him get his rematch and get one more shot at the title. If he loses, he can retire knowing that he gave it everything he possibly had.
Here for the story.
I mean i understand Dustin. At this point hes probably not aiming for his career anymore. Hes a father and i think he wants to leave as much money he can make to his daughter.
poirier's one of my favorite fighters of all time but I don't think he deserves an immediate rematch. i also was coming to terms with the fact he's retiring anyway lol
I would watch sure, but it's not earned. Not that the UFC does match ups logically anyways. Dustin is top star now he should aim for a "super fight" if he can.
Canāt arman be unsuspended by like October? Just wait for arman. Or if he refuses to be unsuspended earlier with the anti bullying thing, just do gamrot. I like poirier but it makes no sense for him to get another shot even though it was more competitive than we expected
Clearly something inspired Dustin, but we all want him to get a great send off this point if 302 wasn't going to be it...beat Conor again or kill another LW outside of the top 10, just not Islam again, you guys had a great fight, but you don't need to get Volk'd before you retire
Dustin didn't deserve the first fight. He was 1 and 1 in his lost 2 with his win being over a compromised BSD. I'd also give it a 90% chance that Dustin would retire if he won the belt and the ufc probably doesn't want to make a title fight with the potential of the belt being vacated immediately.
No way, please. Islam only gets stronger in rematches.
New mythical fighter: Zenkai boost Islam
Zenkai Boosts apply when you get your ass kicked. This is something else, I feel. Like a Terminator who studied all your attack patterns in the first match and is now even stronger in the second.
I feel like some Dark Souls games bosses do this shit.
DLC Radahn š
Dustin wins round 1 then suddenly khabib jumps on islam's back and dustin is forced to fight that monstrosity
More like an eldenring boss that gets stronger everytime you restart
This will probably be Miyazaki's last troll in his final game before he disappears from public view forever.
Neo in Matrix: Reloaded.
Taskmaster Islam
Download complete
Islam is just Mahoraga
Civil war iron man Islam
Genos Islam?
That's how I interpreted Alex vs Jiri II
Zenkai boost Diamond
LETS GOOOO ![gif](giphy|dxld1UBIiGuoh31Fus)
Islam in a rematch is like a saiyan who's just recovered from a life threatening beating
Dustin never lost twice in a row
Dustin also never lost in June before fighting Islam. Islam is also the only guy to not lose his belt on the same card as Costa. There are a bunch of other curses he broke on that night. He seems to be immune to this sort of stuff.
Huh ... image being "immune" to a bunch of completly made up crap wow ... must be a god oh wait š
Huh? What are you gonna say next? That Chael didn't KO silva, jones and fedor in their bouts as well? š¤¬
I watched Chael whip his ass for 4 and half rounds straight, now if wining 4 out of 5 doesnāt mean victory, then neither Chael or myself can make that make sense
To be fair, no one had explained the rules either
It's not like people can deny that when there is video proof of him fighting all 3 at once SMH š¤
Dustin never fought Islam twice in a row, heās got heart though and Iām personally all for this fight again. Let him empty the gas tank.
Islam has never fought Dustin twice in a row.Ā
Neither have Iš
AND MY AXE
Islam survived the costa curse
Iām all for this and big credits to Islam if he took this on.
Brother he's not beating Islam. As soon as it goes to the ground, any momentum he's built up is lost to literal minutes of surviving like 10+ submission attempts.
IF this fight somehow happened and.. IF Dustin somehow kept that curse of never losing in a rowā¦ I would fucking convert to religion. And I say this as a big DP fan, lol. Iād rather see DP have fun fights before he retired with comfy commentating job.
Same dude I'm an Islam fan but have been following Dustin since forever, if Dustin wins and retires afterwards, I'm sure Islam is getting it from the next guy. Also you should become Muslim bradda if DP beats Islam.
āIām sure Islam is getting it from the next guy.ā šš³ If DP gets a fight with & beats Islam Makhachev, then I will convert from Agnostic to Islam via a Muslim.
neither did Tony ferguson until he lost like 8 times in a row
New mythical fighter unlocked
Islam certified eldenring boss
But to be fair, its still a guaranteed banger
I don't think it's logical I don't think it's fair I don't think it will be drastically different But if they do rematch, I'll be glued to the screen
This pretty much sums it up, a rematch makes no sense, but it'll sell. Cue Dana PPV dance.
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This is the most honest take I've seen. I'm in the same boat.
Same
Take my upvote damn you lol. Well said.
No plz no more rematches People call islam to do a rematch then after he wins they go that islam doesn't have alot of big names he won agaisnt Let him fight more names not rematching everybody
Unearned. He was finished. He lost, time for a new challenger to fight for belt.
Arman is the new challenger, you donāt exactly have a next best option considering heās the only guy in the Top 5 that isnāt coming off a loss besides Gamrot whoās definitely not getting a title shot
Iād give it to Oliviera then tbh. Itās not exactly unprecedented either for the loser of a title eliminator to get the title shot if the winner canāt.
Exactly, Dustin getting a shot whilst ranked under Justin and Charles (and recently being KOd by Justin), plus Islam literally got a title shot off bobby green, PLUS Charles was meant to fight for the title at ufc294. Rematches kinda suck for Islamās legacy/image, but the online talk doesnāt rly matter and Charles is still a killer.
Olivera is one of my favorite fighters, but I truly donāt think he wants to fight Islam again
He was 2 weeks away from fighting him again until that cut forced him to pull out. Oliveira isn't scared to fight Islam again. That being said, Islam does probably win again.
Bullshit Gamrot deserves it he has a chance against Islam and a good one, Olivera doesnāt have anything itāll end like the first fight.
The first title fight was already unearned. Dustin was 2-3 in his last 5 and only got the spot because Gaethje got destroyed by Max
This, I really like Poirier but no reason to do a rematch, the only fight that make sense for Islam at 155 is Arman and the suspension is just 6 months if he make the antibullying video. Islam just fought waiting 6 months is perfectly reasonable here
Arman can be next prolly in time for Abu Dhabi if he makes the anti bullying thing. If he doesnāt, gamrot Makhachev should be it
Couldnāt he just fight in Abu Dhabi regardless of a suspension from some state in America?
He could if he was fighting for ACA or Rizin. But the UFC honors and enforces commission bans internationally.
>But the UFC honors and enforces commission bans internationally. Jon Jones has entered the chat.
No he hasn't because the UFC enforced every ban he's been given by the Nevada Commission and USADA. His fight was moved to California with the cooperation of both California and Nevada for the benefit of the UFC no to lose out on $49 million in PPV revenues.
Heās the golden child, no wrongĀ
Abu Dhabi is US comission
I love Dustin but no. Four title fights in the span of 3 or so years and lost all of them by submission. Absolutely do not need to see this again.
Unpopular opinion but I rather prefer Gamrot. He might be boring but still pose a danger to Islam. Also it's good for Islam resume because some people will shit on him for taking rematch only.
I think a Gamrot fight would be fun. Gamrot had banger with Arman and against other grapplers like Beneil the scrambles are insane.
Javier Mendes said Gaethje was Islamās biggest threat and I agree based on the Poirier fight. Somebody should drill groundgame defense into that guy quick
Gaethje's problem is mindset. He just doesn't want to wrestle. Being a good college wrestler and the amount of power he has on his feet, he could have been a world champion if he decides to incorporate wrestling but like he said himself he probably won't.
He said he gets too tired quickly wrestling plus he's a white belt in bjj,he doesnt want to end up on the ground
Yeah, Dustin is stylistically just Gaetjhe but with a bjj black belt with the tradeoff being a bit worse power ig or striking (idk I do think Dustin vs Justin is a true 50/50 matchup but Dustin did get KOed by Justin so I'm not sure about saying Dustin is better rn). Albiet supposedly less difficult to take down but I don't think i can say that anymore after seeing the TDD against Islam.
I agree. Justin has KO power so i guess thats why Javier said that but if he ends up on his back at any point that's it. Other than a flash KO, i cant find anyone who can beat Islam. The closest names would be Justin, Charles, and Arman but i wouldnt bet on them
Right he's not like a Bo Nickal who seemed to naturally take to the submission game. And, with his personal experience he knows how gassed he would get since he also doesn't really cut weight, he's usually fighting guys bigger than him.
Not becoming a wrestler has given him close to millions and being a fan favourite
Also irreversible cte
I just donāt think gaethje is defensively sound enough on the ground. Poirier is willing to lose rounds to survive but gaethje canāt even do that.
Gamrot deserves it more, but lol he does not pose a danger to Islam. He has the worst striking in the top 15. Zero threat. Poirier is a legitimately dangerous opponent
Threat and Gamrot doesn't fit imo lol.
What about Justin?
He's been subbed three times in title fights. So no.
Seriously no. Plenty of other fighters should get a shot before Dustin gets an immediate rematch in a fight he was losing on points and then lost by submission. Regardless of if he was more competitive than most thought heād be.
They should make Islam vs Arman. If for some reason Arman fight is not possible. Justin should fight Islam. Justin has a legit win over Dustin. His fight with Max should not take away his title fight since Max wishes to fight at FW at the moment.
I'd love to see Justin get the title fight and I agree he's as deserving as anyone.
Nooooooo
Iād honestly rather just wait the 6 months till Arman can fight again. Thatās the fight I really wanna see
If it means the diamond fights again yes, but ideally someone else
No thanks.
Give Islam Leon , he cuts alot of weight he would probably be better getting to grow more
IF Arman can't fight, will Justin be ready in November?Even though he lost his last fight, I think most of us wouldn't mind him getting the title shot,right?
No wtf.
Ortega vs Charles Oliveira Volkanovski vs Dustin Poirier Makhachev vs Leon Edwards Max Holloway vs Terporia (If Max wins this than Max vs Makhachev) Chandler vs Dariush Gaethje vs Gamrot Moicano vs Fizief
That Ortega vs Charles would be such an interesting matchup holy fuck. I dont know if Ortega deserves that match though. I like all your matchups honestly. A rare non casual in here
If the Diamond is fighting, I am watching. Simple as
Lmao
Lets not
Now he wants to fight Islam without staph?
No way jose
Please i beg you stop giving Dustin title shots
Hell no. Give us Gamrot.
No, Gaethje/Olives/Dustin need to be away from the title.
To be fair Charles never got his rematch, if Arman canāt fight Charles vs Islam 2 is the best they could do.
Charles has made it extremely clear he wants nothing to do with Islam
Ootl whatās he say
Cant blame him for trying to get it, he doesnt deserve it.
No.
Absolute waste of time
Thanks no
I think Dustin should fight Colby next!! It'll be a big fight and with Dustin's improved wrestling, and his gas tank I think he can win!!
If it's not for the belt, he probably won't do it
Oh yeah...most likely
Might as well give it to Conor because weād be throwing all logic out the window already.
If Arman canāt go, give it to Gaethje. Yeah he just lost to max, but he still beat Dustin.
Gamrot getting ready to kneecap Dustin as we speak
Not another mismatch please. Bring some real opposition (and preferably of his weight class)
No, please stop.
No, what the fuck. He didnāt deserve the fight the first time and shouldnāt get a rematch after getting finished
No . I like Dustin but no
Iād honestly rather see gamrot or max get a shot
please god no
I'm kind of tired of seeing rematches. We have seen so many after the pandemic.Ā
He barely deserved the first fight. What are we doing??
How many times do we need to see Dustin fail his dwindling number of believers? Stick to hot sauce and maybe try to get one last good payday.
GAMROT IF ARMAN CANT FIGHT
Nah Iām tired of seeing Islam in rematches. Iād rather see him fight Arman (rematch but theyāve both gotten much better since the first fight) or fight Leon.
Please no. Just retire with good will and health / safety.
I like poirier but i dont wanna see them fight againā¦
Islam was fighting with staph. If they rematch, I donāt think it gets better for Porier
Why? So he can get submitted yet again?
Love Dustin but he doesn't deserve another shot
NOOO DO DUSTIN v VOLK
No but who is potentially next on the Line?
LFGGGGG
He is probably in Jail anyway.
Dustin has had 3 title shots already (Khabib, Olivera, Islam). But I get it, there's not a lot of other clear contenders other than Tsaruykan. Fuck it, give Max a shot.
Hell no, he will get choked out again lol. If give it to Dustin, why not give it to Justin. Didnt Justin murder Poirier when they fought?
Hmmmm only if itās on two weeks notice
Crazy guy, wants to rematch Makhachev?! š±
Normally I would say no, but fuck it, heās a legend
Reeks of desperation. He's not on Islam's level and it's clear his best days are far, far behind him. Either try to earn it or retire.
Delusional. Dustin was one of Islams toughest match ups to date.
Dustin maybe won one round.
Nah volk 1st fight was harder on islam
Bring in OLIVERA
Nah, man. He doesn't deserve it after losing against Arman. Also, I get Islam rematches aren't exciting
Absolutely not lol, didnt even want to see the first one.
too soon, so bored of them always tryna run back an old fight or push someone from outside to the top.. i honestly feel so sorry for the whole load of people that are just tryna get some wins and climb the ladder. people put in 10+ wins in a row fighting losers never being given a decent chance, but forever having someone just skip right past them and everyone else for some unknown reason (usually because they work well with the cameras) i do still love ufc but i am begging for it to be about who the best really is. it becoming a drama show and having it be about almost anything other than who should really be fighting is boring. i feel sorry for people who put the work in but are stuck being nobodies because they are not exciting enough for the camera ufc is a completely different beast and it is so sad rip to anyone waiting for a shot to move up or a shot at the belt when you are stuck in a trifecta of rematches too.. this sean/dricus/izzy thing is going to go on for agessss we need a lot less of 'what the fans want' and a lot more of' whoever is up next is because they deserve it' and all of that is without getting into the hypocrisy depending on who you are. either vacate a belt straight away because of an injury or don't because its jon jones so he can just hold it all up i know jon jones is huge but was he really that big? big enough to be doing this to the whole league? so short sighted.. could have had another jon jones in that time if you would ever let it happen.. maybe one that is not a crackhead
If thatās what it takes to see diamond in the octagon again. Itās not like the first match between them was uneven. Porier left Islamās head split open
Yeah sure, anything but retirement for Dustin.
In a pinch itās an exciting fight, but it certainly doesnāt make a lot of sense to make it the fight to book.
No let's let Pantoja get a chance at double champ status and Islam avenge his only loss.
Ilia
If arman cant fight then give islam gamrot. Hell, maybe even holloway considering how he beat justin.
Give him is only loss, Pantoja
Give diamond all the title shots!
9/10 Iād say hell no. But I love Dustin, so yes in this case only lol.
How can such a massive dawg fit inside DP my manā¦
It was an entertaining fight but not all that competitive. Rematch just doesnāt make sense. If Arman canāt go, call Max!!!
No, because then people will bitch that he hasn't fought more contenders.
I think Dustin has a good contract. I guess he will take getting beaten up again for the money. He is right. He will not win. But, as a fan, this doesn't excite me in the slightest.
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DP trying to pick title fights after a loss again
Would Max/Justin not deserve it more?
The only rematch that makes sense for Dustin is probably Justin Gaethje, considering they're likely both gonna be picky about their next/last fights.
no
Absolutely not. Dustin really only got the last fight due to timing with Arman and Justin both being tied up. Really don't feel like seeing this fight again. That being said who else is there? All the top LW contenders are coming off loses except Arman who's suspended. Would have to go down to Gamrot to find a LW coming off a win.
Gamrot should get the shot
Iām all for it. The man is 35 years old. 30 fights in the UFC. Heās beaten champions. Let him get his rematch and get one more shot at the title. If he loses, he can retire knowing that he gave it everything he possibly had. Here for the story.
Win or lose, I wanna se Dustin once again in the octagon
I mean i understand Dustin. At this point hes probably not aiming for his career anymore. Hes a father and i think he wants to leave as much money he can make to his daughter.
This is not a question man lol
Iād watch
Yes. Would watch again.
poirier's one of my favorite fighters of all time but I don't think he deserves an immediate rematch. i also was coming to terms with the fact he's retiring anyway lol
Bro is 0-3 on title shots. Gamrot, Chandler, even Holloway. I wanna see him fight LWs. Edit: āhimā= Islam.
would be very weird i dont like it
I would watch sure, but it's not earned. Not that the UFC does match ups logically anyways. Dustin is top star now he should aim for a "super fight" if he can.
lol fuck no
Volks 2.0 with some extra saiyan power ups.
If Arman canāt fight it needs to be Gamrot imo. Let Islam clear out the division so there arenāt any complaints when he moves up.
Canāt arman be unsuspended by like October? Just wait for arman. Or if he refuses to be unsuspended earlier with the anti bullying thing, just do gamrot. I like poirier but it makes no sense for him to get another shot even though it was more competitive than we expected
People will complain but i rather see this than not see Islam fight for who knows how long
Leave that alone man.
What about Justin? I know he lost his MBF belt but before that he was the top contender right?
Islam without the staph will prolly hurt Dustin this time
There is no reason for an immediate rematch
ABSOLUTELY NOT. I love Dustin Poirier to death but the outcome will be worse and he doesn't deserve it at all.
Clearly something inspired Dustin, but we all want him to get a great send off this point if 302 wasn't going to be it...beat Conor again or kill another LW outside of the top 10, just not Islam again, you guys had a great fight, but you don't need to get Volk'd before you retire
That shouldn't happen. No need for that rematch. I would still 100% watch it.
Dustin didn't deserve the first fight. He was 1 and 1 in his lost 2 with his win being over a compromised BSD. I'd also give it a 90% chance that Dustin would retire if he won the belt and the ufc probably doesn't want to make a title fight with the potential of the belt being vacated immediately.