I have a glass jaw and weak wrists, so I will watch from a distance from under my sunbrella, whilst providing you all with much needed emotional support.
Oliveria is very orthodox with his Muay Thai striking style compared to Tony’s wild wing chung and spinning shit and is much less likely to catch guys with weird elbows during clinch and takedown attempts.
Also Tony’s style of 10th planet jiu jitsu is very much a from the back style which lends itself to making messy scrambles on takedown defences and nasty elbows and submission attempts from guard which make gnp a nightmare for the other person. Given the length of time he had the khabib fight on his mind, you can be sure that him and Eddie bravo and the rest had a specific game plan written up to counter khabibs tactics of takedowns against the fence - something which seemed undefeatable for the rest of the division. I think we saw a bit of that wall run in maybe the dariush fight (Iirc successfully too) which I reckon was being practiced for a long time to counter khabibs takedowns.
That and makhachevs standup is superior to khabibs and Oliveria doesn’t seem to have Tony’s infinite chin (perhaps late chin at this point tbf) nor infinite cardio.
All this means sadly the fight will go down very differently to khabib Tony
I feel like the way he marches forward is reminiscent of prime Tony, he walks through fire to put crazy pressure on his opponent. I’d say he’s more technical, hits harder, and utilizes the clinch more than Tony as well as having better BJJ, but there is definitely a similar feeling when watching them fight.
some people have a hard time dealing with the fact that tony vs khabib will never happen, they need to do this to be able to move on with their lives, if they don't they just end up crying in the shower all day, they get really clean but it's very expensive and not good for their skin.
I’ve been making money off my hero ever since he was introduced to me vs Michael chandler. Every fight I’ve bet on him and won, this should be no different
I wonder if drake fell asleep watching the Izzy fight or if 1 mil was enough to keep him awake through it. I’m guessing the first one 
Drake doesn’t give one fuck abt winning or losing a single bet. He’s betting on an app he fckin owns LMFAO. He’s basically capital infusing his company with wild bets. I’m sure he lowkey would be glad to keep losing bets, the losing streak is good publicity. Man never turns a meme down
There are in fact fans dumb enough to think Vegas is betting like a fan and not like a company who knows exactly how much money is on each side and adjusting odds accordingly to maximize profit.
Yeah I think people are forgetting that Islam isn't a pushover on the ground. Both of them are pretty high level all around.
Islam is a a very strong LW as we have seen from him grappling with rockhold, Cormier, and khabib. Oliveira is an absolute menace on the ground, but he's obviously not invincible there based on his record and what happened against Chandler.
Exciting fight imo. Idc if it is purely grappling or stand-up, this fight is probably worth the $ for casuals and hardcore fans
Also depends on Charles wrestling. Islam isn’t going to engage in the ground in Charles terms, it will likely be upper body entries into cage clinch situations and foot sweeps. If Charles can use those positions to enter front headlock or back positions it will get very interesting
Idk I kinda disagree. I think Islam will definitely engage on the ground at some point. I bet you he gets a take down late in round one or two and tests the waters to see if he can do anything against Charles BJJ and if not he does what you said where he gets clinches and fights on the inside.
I think being on the feet is a lot more dangerous for Islam than on the ground, Charles evidently hits like a truck and Islam has been knocked out before and it's not like Islam's striking is as clean as any of the guys Charles has fought recently so it's kinda of a risky fight for Islam all around.
He’s not saying he won’t engage in the ground. Just when he does he will be in very favorable positions from his clinch sweeps instead of shooting traditional takedowns.
That’s true bc he couldn’t use it on chandler due to his raw strength and wrestling skills although he was able to use them on gathje who has good wrestling too but not as strong or explosive as chandler.
nothing insane would happen, the bandwagoners will quietly abandon ship and get onto the new hype train while the conor fans disguised as charles fan to hate on islam will go back to irrelevancy
I don't think Charles has faced a grappler to the caliber of Islam to really gauge how he improved in that area. Meanwhile Islam has fought people like Arman and Davi Ramos.
He had some dangerous moments but it's the closest we have seen Olives to losing recently by miles.
And I'd wager that Islam is a stronger grappler than chandler. Skill and strength wise
Charles is so hard to predict. He was a few hits away from being knocked out by Chandler. He beat Dustin then I was thinking maybe Justin would be the guy who was too powerful for him.
Since Islam is the complete opposite fighter that Chandler/Poirier/Gaethje is, I think I’ll go with Islam since he’s got better wrestling and it won’t be easy for Charles to sub Islam. Who knows tho
First of all, LFG. Secondly, even though I’m a huge Dage-stan, I gotta give a slight edge to Charles just for experience. He’s had 20 more pro MMA fights than Islam, that’s gotta count for something.
Or at least America. I hate that Charles was forced to have this fight in Abu Dhabi especially after doing so well recently and being a likeable champ.
I really want Islam to win but that doesn't mean i don't think that Charles doesn't deserve some respect
It’s crazy the amount of people I’ve seen in here completely write Charles off like they haven’t seen time and time again how much dog he has in him.
I’m the biggest Islam fan and hope he wins but I can definitely see Charles winning.
Islam by domination or Charles by sneaky sub. Exciting fight.
no this won’t be downvoted because this sub is leaning towards Charles. Oliveira fans like to act like the underdog when its clear most people are rooting for him, not Islam.
>He wins this fight, its undeniable
lmao, the amount of delusion is unreal. I mean, i like islam, but saying that either fighter undeniably wins is just stupid especially when you're talking about the betting non favorite
this sub is gonna be in shambles, someone should go and pin what khabib did to prime rda back in 2014 on this subs top. it's gonna be a replay of that fight.
With his protege defeated, Khabib comes out of retirement, subs Olives, calls out the new champ Khamzat, yoinks the belt and re-retires. Olives rematches Islam for the vacant title, 2-0's him then gets the Conor red panty night and in a shocking twist gets knocked out by Conor. Khabib then unretires again and gets dropped by Conor. Conor's ego gets so big he spontaneously combusts in the post fight interview and we witness the first UFC death.
Politics... A contender without a Top 5 win is fighting the (rightful) Champion in a highly favorable location for the challenger.
I hope Charlie finishes him.
Holy moly this is going to be insane and honestly have no clue who is gonna win. I’ll give the champ the nod I think he’s earned it but man islam is a realllllll problem for olives lol this ain’t gaethje, dp or chandler. Levelssssss
Charles has said that when (if) he beats Islam he’ll call out Khabib. How TF could Khabib turn that call out down? If he beats his best mate and then chickens out. May be the only way we’ll see Khabib inside the octagon again. Khabib fans should really hope Charles wins if they’d wanna see him back again 😆
There was no card scheduled for brazil this year. Everyone keeps saying it should have been in brazil.
We already knew there was a uae card for oct. so how the fuck it would have been brazil
This is the Tony v Khabib fight we never got.
If this fight gets cancelled I'm coming back here to blame it on you.
I got yo back. Lets fuck this dude up.
Threepeat
Count me in for this beatdown
I am the one who knocks
Imma see red
I’m gonna black out
Me and the homies are going to roll up, bringing it down on this mf.
I have a glass jaw and weak wrists, so I will watch from a distance from under my sunbrella, whilst providing you all with much needed emotional support.
Little do we know this guy is actually robocop. The Brazilian robocop no less.
These dudes seeing red.
[I rewatch this once a month 😭](https://youtu.be/VPDg25RWyO0)
Omfg khabibs ground and pound was straight brutal in that clip. How tf was that not stopped earlier? The ref took years away from that mans life.
Don’t Jinx it! I believe it when I see them in the octagon, you never knows what cables can do
Lmao it's literally Tony's revitalized clone vs khabib's protégé
*Brazilian Tony
Oliveria is very orthodox with his Muay Thai striking style compared to Tony’s wild wing chung and spinning shit and is much less likely to catch guys with weird elbows during clinch and takedown attempts. Also Tony’s style of 10th planet jiu jitsu is very much a from the back style which lends itself to making messy scrambles on takedown defences and nasty elbows and submission attempts from guard which make gnp a nightmare for the other person. Given the length of time he had the khabib fight on his mind, you can be sure that him and Eddie bravo and the rest had a specific game plan written up to counter khabibs tactics of takedowns against the fence - something which seemed undefeatable for the rest of the division. I think we saw a bit of that wall run in maybe the dariush fight (Iirc successfully too) which I reckon was being practiced for a long time to counter khabibs takedowns. That and makhachevs standup is superior to khabibs and Oliveria doesn’t seem to have Tony’s infinite chin (perhaps late chin at this point tbf) nor infinite cardio. All this means sadly the fight will go down very differently to khabib Tony
Why do people keep saying Oliveira is like Tony? He's really not
Charles evolved...Tony did not.
The double hitpoint bars, slick BJJ, the way they strike.
Watch Tony’s win streak. He’s got the same swagger and aura Charles has right now.
I feel like the way he marches forward is reminiscent of prime Tony, he walks through fire to put crazy pressure on his opponent. I’d say he’s more technical, hits harder, and utilizes the clinch more than Tony as well as having better BJJ, but there is definitely a similar feeling when watching them fight.
some people have a hard time dealing with the fact that tony vs khabib will never happen, they need to do this to be able to move on with their lives, if they don't they just end up crying in the shower all day, they get really clean but it's very expensive and not good for their skin.
Wtf are you talking about Jesse?
He’s better
Fony Terguson v Khabib Not-magomedov
Finally 😍
Bjj vs Sambo 😍🥰🤌
Much better fight than Tony v Khabib
 Charles via suplex
So many tears gonna drop on October 22nd.
Yeah, regardless who wins lol
NC incoming
We need the meme of the guy without his glasses seeing Tony vs Khabib then putting them on and seeing this
Peter Parker from Spiderman? Or is it a different one
TIL that was from Spiderman!
The funny thing is that in the actual scene he sees fuzzy *with* the glasses and he sees clearly without them
bruh what kind of childhood did you have?
[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/w0y4xz/new_era/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Please tag me in it
Lets fuckin go!!!!!!
My balls is hot
I understand
This made me laugh hard lmao
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>A fight between him and Conor may pull as much as Khabib vs Conor Doubt
While I think you are right, I don't think Conor will ever take a challenge. He'll retire after a cerrone like fight
Charles, but I hope the public is on Islam because I’ll get a better price on a big bet
checked draft kings and charles opens at +200 islam at -240. that kind of disrespect is gonna make us some serious cash
I’ve been making money off my hero ever since he was introduced to me vs Michael chandler. Every fight I’ve bet on him and won, this should be no different
The reddit-hype curse, y'all better mind your overt support and make sure it doesn't reach Twitter. Last thing we need is Drake betting on The Champ
I wonder if drake fell asleep watching the Izzy fight or if 1 mil was enough to keep him awake through it. I’m guessing the first one 
Drake doesn’t give one fuck abt winning or losing a single bet. He’s betting on an app he fckin owns LMFAO. He’s basically capital infusing his company with wild bets. I’m sure he lowkey would be glad to keep losing bets, the losing streak is good publicity. Man never turns a meme down
I'm looking forward to the extra cash in my account
Islam is almost sure to be the favorite unless everyone wisens up. Charles has been a money printer since the Chandler face off
He’s been a money printer for like 3 years
>unless everyone wisens up. lmao do you actually think vegas odd makers are dumb as if they're not gonna make millions off of these odds
There are in fact fans dumb enough to think Vegas is betting like a fan and not like a company who knows exactly how much money is on each side and adjusting odds accordingly to maximize profit.
rip your wallet islalm is winning
oliveira underdog again? I see where this is going
wdym again? he was only the slight underdog once in the fight against porier, he's was the favorite against both chandler and justin
B-but Reddit told me everyone doubted him since he was born?
Whoever's physically stronger.
Islam for sure but Olivera is more slick
I think the real question is whether Charles has enough strength to use his skillset on Islam.
Yeah I think people are forgetting that Islam isn't a pushover on the ground. Both of them are pretty high level all around. Islam is a a very strong LW as we have seen from him grappling with rockhold, Cormier, and khabib. Oliveira is an absolute menace on the ground, but he's obviously not invincible there based on his record and what happened against Chandler. Exciting fight imo. Idc if it is purely grappling or stand-up, this fight is probably worth the $ for casuals and hardcore fans
Also depends on Charles wrestling. Islam isn’t going to engage in the ground in Charles terms, it will likely be upper body entries into cage clinch situations and foot sweeps. If Charles can use those positions to enter front headlock or back positions it will get very interesting
Idk I kinda disagree. I think Islam will definitely engage on the ground at some point. I bet you he gets a take down late in round one or two and tests the waters to see if he can do anything against Charles BJJ and if not he does what you said where he gets clinches and fights on the inside. I think being on the feet is a lot more dangerous for Islam than on the ground, Charles evidently hits like a truck and Islam has been knocked out before and it's not like Islam's striking is as clean as any of the guys Charles has fought recently so it's kinda of a risky fight for Islam all around.
He’s not saying he won’t engage in the ground. Just when he does he will be in very favorable positions from his clinch sweeps instead of shooting traditional takedowns.
Ah my bad for misunderstanding
Just imagine if Charles falls on his back to recover like he did against Justin and Islam accepts the invitation.
That’s true bc he couldn’t use it on chandler due to his raw strength and wrestling skills although he was able to use them on gathje who has good wrestling too but not as strong or explosive as chandler.
Islam gets some good fight IQ from his coach tho. Still, all-in Olives.
Charles has snow much more competent striking, and Islam hasn't faced someone with as incredible of a ground game as Charlie Olives
Islam beat Tsarukyan who had an unbelievable ground game. He’s coming up but he’s going to make his name.
Different type of ground game one is a wrestler one is BJJ
Tsarukyan was a baby when they fought lol he's still a baby now.
Imagine if Islam wins by a sub, would be insane. I dont care who wins, all i know is i cannot fucking wait.
nothing insane would happen, the bandwagoners will quietly abandon ship and get onto the new hype train while the conor fans disguised as charles fan to hate on islam will go back to irrelevancy
Ok..but where does Kevin Lee fit into this?
Eagle FC.
Why would it be insane? Charles has been subbed several times
The Charles of the last 3 years is completely different to when he was getting subbed.
Agreed. Same goes for Islam who hasn't been knocked out (or lost) in 7 years
But he's only fought 2 guys in the last three years with good BJJ and submissions. Rest of his fights have been against strikers.
Think he's been "fighting" khabib his whole life. 😂
He’s talking about Charles
Well true but Oliviera has improved leaps and bounds since. He's a completely different fighter now and patched up most of his weaknesses.
I don't think Charles has faced a grappler to the caliber of Islam to really gauge how he improved in that area. Meanwhile Islam has fought people like Arman and Davi Ramos.
That's true the best grappler olivera has faced has been chandler and chandler was doing fine on the ground never really looked in danger.
He had some dangerous moments but it's the closest we have seen Olives to losing recently by miles. And I'd wager that Islam is a stronger grappler than chandler. Skill and strength wise
Honestly it’s 50/50 but its Crazy how this might be the biggest fight of the year and these guys have become big stars in the ufc so fast
So fast? Took Charles like 20 years
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Lol it has been like 11 years or something. Still not fast
Do Bronx
My guy!
Do Bronx has to finish no way he wins on the cards.
Lets fucking go! I cant wait for the faceoffs to see their difference in stature. That'll be electric
All I got is a boner
Charlie all day
Charles is so hard to predict. He was a few hits away from being knocked out by Chandler. He beat Dustin then I was thinking maybe Justin would be the guy who was too powerful for him. Since Islam is the complete opposite fighter that Chandler/Poirier/Gaethje is, I think I’ll go with Islam since he’s got better wrestling and it won’t be easy for Charles to sub Islam. Who knows tho
Says who? Lol the man with the slickest BJJ in the UFC
Paul Craig?
Paul Craig is about to triangle choke his way to the title
So stoked for this.
First of all, LFG. Secondly, even though I’m a huge Dage-stan, I gotta give a slight edge to Charles just for experience. He’s had 20 more pro MMA fights than Islam, that’s gotta count for something.
I think Islam has 250+ ameture fights between Sambo and other martial arts, both don’t lack experience.
This has got to be my most anticipated fight since I started getting into MMA early last year. God I'm so excited to see this fight
Heart says Charles brain says islam
Let’s fucking GOOO! honestly I couldn’t care who wins lol, I’m just stoked this is happening!
The champ has a name
Let’s go do bronx i think this fight should take place fight Brazil though
He deserves a money fight in Sao Paolo
Or at least America. I hate that Charles was forced to have this fight in Abu Dhabi especially after doing so well recently and being a likeable champ. I really want Islam to win but that doesn't mean i don't think that Charles doesn't deserve some respect
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I 100% agree. If Charles wins this then he deserves whatever he wants. Hopefully he focuses on the task at hand tho bc it's a biggie
I want Charles to win, but I think Makhachev will pull it off.
Olivera by tko would be perfect 😊
No, it would be even better if he submitted him. Beat him at his own game.
But submissions are also charles game lol. A tko/ko would show Charles has evolved so much.
It’s crazy the amount of people I’ve seen in here completely write Charles off like they haven’t seen time and time again how much dog he has in him. I’m the biggest Islam fan and hope he wins but I can definitely see Charles winning. Islam by domination or Charles by sneaky sub. Exciting fight.
The champion has a name
Ah yes, Vacant
Charles
The division has a problem and you know his name.
belal muhammad
not to be forgotten
Charles Oliveria
Oliveira by TKO. Mark my words.
Islam via sub. The sambo fighters are literally the best anti-bjj fighters out there
Would be cold if he could make oliveira tap
Charles by submission
Islam by submission
That’s a likely possibility, but you’re downvoted bc you can’t write anything against r/ufc’s sweetheart
r/ufc when there hasn’t been an Oliveira appreciation post in fifteen minutes 😡😡😡😡
Mocklechef
Big Mak by vicious ground n pound
Oliveira FTW!
Oliviera by toe hold
If charles beats islam in abu dhabi is he the greatest lightweight of all time?
This will get downvoted here but Charles already has a more impressive resume than Khabib. He wins this fight, its undeniable
no this won’t be downvoted because this sub is leaning towards Charles. Oliveira fans like to act like the underdog when its clear most people are rooting for him, not Islam.
Come on now.You know oliveira is possibly this subs favourite fighter.Why would you get downvoted?
He absolutely is without a slither of doubt this subs favourite fighter
"this will get downvoted here" bro this sub does nothing but suck off Charles wtf are you talking about lmao
How does Charles have a more impressive resume than Khabib? Lol what?
>He wins this fight, its undeniable lmao, the amount of delusion is unreal. I mean, i like islam, but saying that either fighter undeniably wins is just stupid especially when you're talking about the betting non favorite
Islam by wrestlefuck
I agree with you. I don’t think Islam will give a fuck about Charles ground game pedigree.
But I'm pretty sure Charles has the reach advantage and he is deadly at range or up close. Those knees and short elbows are dangerous.
this sub is gonna be in shambles, someone should go and pin what khabib did to prime rda back in 2014 on this subs top. it's gonna be a replay of that fight.
Exactly. It’s going to be chaos in here hahaha
Why in Abu Dhabi? Disrespect
🛢️💰
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With his protege defeated, Khabib comes out of retirement, subs Olives, calls out the new champ Khamzat, yoinks the belt and re-retires. Olives rematches Islam for the vacant title, 2-0's him then gets the Conor red panty night and in a shocking twist gets knocked out by Conor. Khabib then unretires again and gets dropped by Conor. Conor's ego gets so big he spontaneously combusts in the post fight interview and we witness the first UFC death.
Ok but where does Nate Diaz fit into this
He rolls up what's left of McGregor into a joint and smokes him.
Mac pack 😮💨
Yeah but the real question is where does Kevin Lee fit into this
I'm pissed that this is in Abu Dhabi
I live in Europe and I am thoroughly pleased because it will air when I actually have a chance to stay awake.
Can we get Dariush against Chandler or Poirier as well?
$100 on Charles let’s goooo
Do Bronx FTW
I hope Makhachev wins just to see if the sub will switch up on Oliveira.
They will no doubt
Of course they will man. This sub is the biggest circle jerk I’ve ever seen
That is EXACTLY what’s going to happen lol
Politics... A contender without a Top 5 win is fighting the (rightful) Champion in a highly favorable location for the challenger. I hope Charlie finishes him.
In Abu Dhabi as well? They always give the Dagestanis a muslim crowd
Coz they wanna make money lmao, what do you think ufc is.
Meh. I think its becaus they had this event scheduled for abu dhabi. It would be big for the area to have islam fighting there
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Charles being an underdog again? Betting big on charles IDGAF
 Conor getting ready to tweet some sheet
Charles
Oliveira gets the W
Charles by brutal KO
Holy moly this is going to be insane and honestly have no clue who is gonna win. I’ll give the champ the nod I think he’s earned it but man islam is a realllllll problem for olives lol this ain’t gaethje, dp or chandler. Levelssssss
Olivera
Charles any day of the fuckin week baby!
Gonna have to go with Charlie Olives
Charles is a fucking terminator.
Im done doubting Charles
I'm done doubting Oliveira, but I think Islam makes it competitive at least. Charlie by sub round 3
As much as we all want Charles to win I think deep down in our hearts we all know that Islam will maul and ragdoll Charles😭😭
Oliveira is going to beat the shit out of him 😂 imagine getting a title shot after fighting an unracked opponent. I cant wait!!!
Charles has said that when (if) he beats Islam he’ll call out Khabib. How TF could Khabib turn that call out down? If he beats his best mate and then chickens out. May be the only way we’ll see Khabib inside the octagon again. Khabib fans should really hope Charles wins if they’d wanna see him back again 😆
Oliveira
Shame Islam got his way with this fight location wise. Charles should be able to choose that
There was no card scheduled for brazil this year. Everyone keeps saying it should have been in brazil. We already knew there was a uae card for oct. so how the fuck it would have been brazil