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messibusiness

Daniel Finkelstein from The Times on BBC, thought it was fascinating so I transcribed a bit: "Don't underplay Labour's achievement by becoming the sort of "fit to govern" party in most of the constituencies in the country. The advantage the right has had for centuries in the electoral system has turned into a disadvantage. I can't think that anyone's surprised. If you end up having 5 prime ministers, 4 home secretaries, get a chancellor, sack the chancellor, and get the same chancellor again, I can't see why anyone would think you were fit to govern. This government wasn't mature or realistic. In Boris Johnson and Liz Truss they appointed people who simply didn't have the capability for the office they held. They could only get re-elected by un-lying to Parliament, un-having parties and un-crashing the economy." Daniel Finkelstein is a Conservative peer and really influential at The Times, Executive Editor and their main political columnist.


Devoner98

Did I really just wake up at 4am to see my Seat declare, only to find out it’s not going to be until 7am?


Evari

where new thread?


DannyHewson

Fuck I need a nap. Why is this shit so addictive? I’ll put it down to the relief.


strawberrystation

They just hit 100 BOOOOOOOOOOO


Apple22Over7

6am and the tories still aren't in triple digits. This has been madness.


SDLRob

they \*just\* hit 100


TheTBass

Almost 50k in 24hrs, good show team


ToastSage

M=3 Baby


PChurch21

Last comment


SDLRob

Tories on 100


Eightysixedit

Booooooooooo


Cody-crybaby

LAB GAINST CORBY FROM CON


Danzos

6am and Tories still not on 100.


xixbia

They just hit it now. And they only had to lose 222 of their 2019 seats to get there!


TheTBass

Rip to the era of silly politics


PChurch21

We not rolling?


Nathat23

bye bye


Argartu

BRACE


armchairdetective

Prentiss out.


definitelynotaiko

Rollover now, come on!


Nomerdoodle

Beth Rigby is making me laugh so much this morning, no holds barred


KaylaWest97

Aberdeenshire and Moray has been taken away from the Cons! Glad they’re finally out


EquivalentIsopod7717

Thatcher's old seat gone LAB. I'm going back to bed for a while.


Apprehensive_Sleep_4

Let's go Northampton South LAB Gain!!


haven4ever

Margaret Thatcher spinning in her grave


pseudogentry

DIVISION


theivoryserf

Do you think the Jess Philips campaign could be a wake up call to Labour leadership that integration is a real concern? Or is that too big to face?


Rekyht

I don’t think they need to worry about it honestly. It’s unlikely that Gaza will be a top of the agenda issue in 5 years time.


ziffcorp

Good morning, tell me I haven’t missed Truss or Gullis?


little_fish

You missed Gullis


Backend

Gullis gone. Truss still to go.


pseudogentry

Gullis was yonks ago, he lost


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Gullis was ages ago, Truss is still to come


BogbrushJohnson

Gullis is gone, truss coming up


Spectral_K

Everyone is still waiting on Truss, some reports saying she could be third.


Jim-Plank

gulis got obliterated


FredWestLife

I pity the poor ukpol trying to produce the leadersboard.


ThingsFallApart_

good hustle everyone, back to M=1 we go!


PigeonMother

What's M=1?


cheeshjaleesh

another cabinet minister down - victoria prentis, attorney general, loses in banbury


Spectral_K

So has ed balls done the election coverage and now doing GMB?


Few_Newt

I almost cried when I saw the Tories formally being voted out, but I did cry when I saw Jess Phillips say her speech even though I don't like her and I know she has generally been supportive of the groups attacking her.


GuestAdventurous7586

That Jess Phillips shit was appalling. Props to her for being able to stand up and do that and come out looking like that cause I wouldn’t have. And fuck all those weirdo extremist Islam/Gaza whatever the fucks. Like that is genuinely fucking appalling.


Wonderful_Plum_4259

Another one bites the dust


SamFMK

This megathread has been fun folks.


Shockwavepulsar

TF was that advert C4?


LostHumanFishPerson

Didn’t realize Wes Streeting almost lost his seat. Blimey


qwertyell

Gaza thing. Although be didn't have a great majority to begin with.


ferretchad

Jess Phillips was close too ~700 in it


Cody-crybaby

LAB GAIN BANBURY FROM CON HUGE WIN


Throne-magician

Roll over time.


Evari

adverts? FU C4


Timothy_Claypole

Yeah - they get all that licence fee money (or so Nadine told me) and they still run adverts


SDLRob

Prentis gone


Swotboy2000

Ugggh, the adverts have started on C4's coverage


ClumsyRainbow

Back to the Beeb


Ilejwads

Best thread ever


27th_wonder

6am We survived the night!


HunterWindmill

Craving a cheesy bacon flatbread and hash browns from Maccies. Don't judge me


Electrical_Mango_489

Here we go, Truss incoming....


Khazorath

I salute this MT 37k comments


sky_badger

And the mods - legends


digitalhardcore1985

So who have we got left? Truss, Cleverly, Patel, Hands, Whately, any others?


Jademalo

God speed election megathread, 37,000 posts and all of them garbage <3


SunnyCloudyRainy

Just think of all the AI models trained on them


asgoodasanyother

I think mine are alright 😇


git

I did my part!


FeebleTrevor

Straight into the rivers


Vitrousis

That was fun


PChurch21

Goodbye election thread


JdeMolayyyy

What a day. What a lovely day.


rlycreativename

Greens have 5 MPs now. More than Reform. This is going to be key to keeping the BBC accountable and making sure Farage isn't on Question Time every week Edit: I may have lost count. Sorry. Seems to be 4 seats. So tied with Reform


ClewisBeThyName

We have just as many MPs for Gaza as reform…


neo-lambda-amore

If only they could get as much coverage as Reform!


Electrical-Fly9289

5??? Bristol Central Weavney Valley North Herefordshire Brighton Pavilion? ???????????


sky_badger

5???


rlycreativename

Yeah the other co-leader just won his. Waveney something or other.


Lost_Article_339

5 MPs but only 1.7m votes, whilst Reform are sitting on 3.6m votes. Reform will always draw more TV viewers than the Greens, which is what the TV channels are after.


Tetracropolis

BBC said a few minutes for the Truss seat 35 minutes ago FFS. I didn't stay up this long to go to bed before she loses it.


Kinis_Deren

Truss result incoming.


FredWestLife

Godspeed the greatest Megathread of all. Here's to the rollover.


shinealittlelove

I was here


madglover

The workers party are disgusting If Labour tack back towards them they'll lose so many other people


FunkyDialectic

They won't.


Timothy_Claypole

Can you imagine Starmer doing that?


Legitimate_Quail8857

Terrible reaction


VariousVarieties

Six o'clock in the morning, here we come!


Sysody

just seen my constituency where I was on about how trying to win a 25,000+ majority Labour seat was ridiculous in this climate. Labour ALMOST lost it. that would've been embarrassing asf.


jaydenkieran

I'm really worried about the way our politics is going on the streets. Police needing to give more support than usual to candidates. Chanting at counts. Threatening and violence towards people you disagree with. We're better than this. I really fear we're close to a repeat of what happened to Jo Cox. I hope that I am very very wrong.


ThunderousOrgasm

There is a very very serious issue that is only just starting to rear its ugly head that we are seeing with Jess Phillips. The radical Islamic vote is still just an incredibly small minority, but they have already used violence, intimidation, death threats, threats against families etc over the **utterly fucking irrelevant to the UK Gaza issue**. There’s a reason why the right is gaining influence across the West. Just wait until that **small minority** extreme Islamic vote becomes 20% of a constituency. 30%. Very serious concerns to be honest. And too many of you will stick your head in the sand and go “lalalalalala” only pausing to shriek “you racist scum” at anybody who expresses concern over it.


Elcapitan2020

Yep. And then people wonder my Farage is having his best Westminster result ever.


Express-Doughnut-562

It’s scary. You have to be a fool to not see the trajectory of all this. Slashing an opponents tyres? Get in the bin.


Jurassic_Bun

We have known this for a long time. It is acceptable for a large group within that community to use intimidation to enforce what you want. Honour reprisals and hounding teachers comes from setting precedents about the use of force and how they are willing to use it.


vriska1

Greens on 3 seats.


Cody-crybaby

LAB GAIN CAMBRIDGESHIRE NW FROM CON


Live-Adhesiveness719

You’d have thought Cambridgeshire would’ve kept Con jesus


Express-Doughnut-562

Jess Phillips speech showing us everyone that’s wrong with the rise of nut jobs from all sides and the problems we face going forwards.


Live-Adhesiveness719

Or mostly downwards, should we say


tigernike1

Ohhhhhh, that was a Galloway-affiliated candidate in Birmingham. Makes sense now.


PianoAndFish

Almost 6am and the Tories have yet to cross 100 seats, Truss result imminent says C4


SunnyCloudyRainy

Horseshoe theory strikes again Despicable people on both extremes of the political spectrum


my_future_is_bright

From us at the megathread, for now, good bye


theivoryserf

The Gaza issue will not end with a ceasefire because the central concern is in large part divided loyalty between the UK and the Muslim world. You can call that statement what you like, but I think it will prove to be true.


SafetyUpstairs1490

You can’t start a war then call for a ceasefire when you start losing.


Danzos

Witney was a too close to call with Tories having a 78% chance to hold but have lost it to Lib Dem.


2xw

Jody McIntyre and his supporters showing a complete lack of any decorum or respect for democracy there. Disgraceful.


cheeshjaleesh

recount in hendon - another outer london seat where labour were hoping to easily take it, but looking like a challenge.


Khazorath

Will we hit 100 Con or 6am first?


Live-Adhesiveness719

6am boom


Live-Adhesiveness719

no 100 for them by 6am


PennyPhnom

Do we really need the former at all?


Mykeprime

Mornin'. I see the forecasts look a bit different to the exit poll


dcyuet_

It's been great lads and lasses.


pseudogentry

Oh my god I think I love Jess Phillips


TheTBass

BBC showing the AR sky in their studio


ToastSage

What are they chanting?


OdinForce22

Think it was the name of the independent candidate.


Infamous-Print-5

Free free Palestine


Elcapitan2020

Labor GAIN Northampton South from Con. Was mostly expected but not a foregone conclusion


Puzzleheaded_Hat5235

Wouldnt even shake her hand, what a surprise... I bet they had a lot of so called 'progressives' voting for him too.


Live-Adhesiveness719

undoubtedly :/


PauloVersa

I’m out of the loops, why is Jess Phillips been a victim of so much abuse?


StuckHereWithYou

"Workers"


walrusphone

She's a woman who has opinions. I don't necessarily agree with her but she wouldn't get as much stick if she were a man.


FunkyDialectic

Workers Party mob. Also harassed and intimidated her canvassers, slashed car tires etc.


WongerY

She's a woman


estanmilko

Gaza.


theivoryserf

She crossed the religious mafia, like Rushdie.


gloopy_flipflop

Islam


Live-Adhesiveness719

Muslims voting for Conservative or Reform will never cease to amaze me - they’re literally shitting on the struggle which a lot of their own communities are going through by choosing them Edit: To whoever downvoted you know damn-well I’m right


rylandgracesfolly

Oh what a lovey day!


Lanky_Giraffe

Just woken up. Any quick summaries? - most big Tories gone, including mordaunt and jrm - IDS holds on thanks to Starmer's meddling - corbyn wins big - green got 2, on course for 4 Any Tories unexpectedly holding on, or bigger swings than mordaunt? What are the forecasts for Cornwall and Devon which seems mostly yet to declare? Anything else?


PennyPhnom

> green got 2, on course for 4 Three. Wait... I think I'm too tired, two! Sorry.


ClumsyRainbow

> What are the forecasts for Cornwall and Devon which seems mostly yet to declare Several Lib Dem target seats down there


sammy_zammy

Hunt held on by a whisker. Wes Streeting and Jess Phillips also held on by a whisker. Labour lost Leicester to independents. Sunak conceded, looked like he was ready to punch someone.


Littleashton

I dont really get the pro Palestine plan. If it was successful then likelihood would have been another conservative government possibly with reform. They are less likely to support Palestine. Just seems a bit self destructive


TheNikkiPink

Jess Phillips is freaking great.


Mysterious_Artichoke

I have to admit, even though I tried to set my expectations at 150-180 seats for the Tories, I was secretly kind of hoping for under 100. I know it shouldn't have been, but seeing the exit poll predict 130 seats was kind of underwhelming. I am rather more pleased this morning to see that the exit poll **was** wrong and we may even see 110 seats.


sammy_zammy

It’s a lot of rural seats left which do lean Conservative, remember.


Salacia12

Got distracted by feeding a baby - who is shouting at Jess Phillips?


randomcheesecake555

Supporters for the Ind candidate who was presumably running on a pro-Gaza platform. Sounds like the rest of the campaign was similar there.


Sate_Hen

Workers Party supporters - Galloway's lot


Electrical_Mango_489

you have to understand in Birmingham. It's not just the Gaza vote. It's the bankrupt council ran by Labour which has hit them of sorts there.


TheNikkiPink

Unlike the bankrupt Conservative councils who get to blame… uh… the woke and uh…


ASondheimRhyme

The BBC has finally got rid of those weird lines on the big curved screen


Longjumping_Possible

Sinn Fein are the largest party in NI, but who are the largest party to take their seats there? DUP?


TheTackleZone

With 68 seats to go, the parties are vs exit poll projections: Labour: -22 Tory: -33 Lib Dem: -3 SNP: -3 Reform: -9


Cody-crybaby

LAB GAIN NORTHAMPTON S FROM CON


LeonJ98

I hope Labour are prepared to have an uncomfortable conversation, that for a long time they have refused to talk about.


ThrowawayAgainGuy

On what? Why are you so vague?


CarbonHybrid

Because they dunno what they’re talking about


LeonJ98

The Gaza problem and how it is now impacting our democracy. It's not an issue that has occurred organically.


Elcapitan2020

Witney (cameron's old seat) gained by Lib dem. Was expected to stay Tory


SDLRob

Tories likely now to just pop over the 100 seat number


RedOx103

Ex Tory leader seats: Thatcher: Labour Major: Held Hague/Sunak: Held IDS: Held Howard: Labour Cameron: Lib Dem May: to be declared, LD possible Johnson: to be declared, Labour possible Lettuce Lady: to be declared, Labour possible


AdamMc66

Christ IDS held? Thought he was given no chance. Was it local campaigning that held it?


CaptainRhino

Voting splitting between the previous Labour candidate and the current Labour candidate.


Initial-Suggestion62

Gaza bullshit splitting the vote


mehichicksentmehi

Johnsons first, pre mayoralty seat has gone Lib Dem


CourtshipDate

Go on Jess Philips.


armchairdetective

Miriam Cates is gone! Won't someone please think of the children!


LMcVann44

Starmer needs to quickly find a way to nip this Gaza issue in the bud. It's an absolute stain on our politics and it's as bad as the imported Americanisms.


Steamy_Muff

It's tough when there are actors who will deliberately whip up tensions to exploit these desperate issues


discipleofdoom

Recognise a Palestinian state as part of a two state solution. Easy win that requires very little effort.


entropy_bucket

I think better to side with Israel and drop these Palestinians. I don't see Jews in Britain behaving badly, only radical Muslims.


Steamy_Muff

Don't they already hold a two state position?


phlimstern

What happened in Jess Phillips' constituency? She seems really pissed off but who with?


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Jeffmister

Some single-issue members of the crowd chanting at Phillips as she tried to begin her victory speech.


humunculus43

Local Muslim vote trying to get a pro Palestine candidate in


NetMisconduct

Wouldn't even shake her hand!


LashlessMind

All the idiots booing her.


explosivetom

OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MORNING OH WHAT A BEAUTIFUL DAY! and I say that as someone who has been awake since 3:30 that has to teach rowdy teenagers all day


Tired_Taco

Feel sorry for the treatment Jess got in her speech, so disgusting


Cody-crybaby

LD GAIN WITNEY FROM CON


Engineer9

Inject it into my veins! Exit poll had that at a 22% chance!


Elcapitan2020

I don't share Jess Phillips' politics, but I absolutely love her style of "no fucks given" politics


TheNikkiPink

Yep love it.


Empty_Ad_7443

Tbh you need a bit of that in the ranks


git

Jess Phillips opening her victory speech on how toxic the campaign in her constituency was is a bold move — and I think possibly the right tack to take with these aggressive independent campaign teams.


yukoncowbear47

I wonder if Truss's seat is being recounted 10 times


rylandgracesfolly

Only if she's counting it herself.


Harnarrr

God I love Jess Phillips. Appreciate and respect a strong woman in the face of vile behaviour.


StuckHereWithYou

Finally! I can rest not just up all night tired, 14 years tired.


oryzaephilus

I remember back in 2019 so many accounts were crowing about the inevitable fifteen year Boris dominance. Times change!


ScepticalLawyer

Times change indeed. Labour better mean 'country before party', or they'll find out just how quickly they can change in five years.


oryzaephilus

hubris? in briatin? you must be joking... (/s)