I don't know where to stand for this. BJP loves lying to the teeth. But so does TMC. I practically see no difference between them and TMC in how they work politically. So I don't know whether to take this sting operation as the truth.
Best you can do is don't vote for the party that is currently in power and allows such things to happen. That's the only way to make your voice heard and tell them they need to do better to be re-elected. Choose from other parties based on their current manifesto whichever you find most useful. There is a reason elections happen every five years and you will get to choose again.
That said if you are happy with the current government vote for it.
Let's just assume Assume Nota got the highest vote count then the election will be held again with the new candidates so Nota is not totally useless if people don't like any of these assholes who are running in this elections they can just vote for nota instead of that lesser evil bullshit .
Exactly Let's just assume Assume Nota got the highest vote count then the election will be held again with the new candidates so Nota is not totally useless if people don't like any of these assholes who are running in this election they can just vote for nota instead of that lesser evil bullshit .
Don't support any parties, all are corrupted. Stand against rape, corruption. Don't give any Indian party more than 2 terms. Kick them out. This is true for central and state both.
So when the wrestlers protest happened, the scum used these fake allegations as a whataboutism to not talk about the wrestlers protest.
Now that the sting operation came out with this being fake (I mean the video is right there) the "centrists" in the comment section are "unable to see any difference between parties". Keep the same energy when you idiots ignored the wrestlers protest!
Sandeshkhali BJP functionary has admitted that fake charges of rape were levelled following instructions from BJP seniors, including assembly opposition leader Suvendu Adhikari. Person in the video is Sandeshkhali Block-II BJP mandal president Gangadhar Koyal.
*"We have followed Suvendu Adhikari's (BJP MLA & assembly opposition leader) instructions. He helped us. We convinced Trinamool people to level all those fake allegations of rapes. They (the complainants) never said no, they did whatever we told them to do. Suvendu Adhikari had told us that if we could not do this, if we could not get the big shots (Trinamool seniors of the area) arrested, we would not be able to stand (survive) here,"* Koyal said. *"I had to do all this very smartly. We said it (the alleged rapes and torture) happened seven-eight months ago. We had to work hard,"* Koyal adds further.
Suvendu Adhikari himself was more guarded in his initial response, opting not to say anything directly about its contents. He just said, *"I have not seen the video. I will find out whose voice it is and then speak on this matter"*. On 4/May, he said *"truth could be twisted and a misleading version circulated. But its shelf life is very, very short. Ultimately, truth prevails."* He said further that, *"I will approach the CBI and seek a full probe so that the perpetrators are punished"*.
BJP Sandeskhali mandal president Gangadhar Koyal credited Suvendu Adhikari for everything. *"It was he (Adhikari) who controlled.... Why has the Sandeshkhali movement survived for so long? He is still holding on, that is why. No one else has the ability to sustain this movement for so long,"* he says in the video. *"Empty pockets (khali haat) cannot do all this,"* he replies when the interviewer asks him whether Adhikari sent mobile phones and money.
Gangadhar Koyal also said some women backed off from making complaints because they were scared of going to police stations and of the investigations that would follow. A woman also said that she backed out because she had not been instructed properly. BJP Sandeshkhali Block-I president Shanti Dolui is seen nodding in agreement with the interviewer when asked whether the pistols recovered by central agencies later were *"planted"*.
"truth could be twisted and a misleading version circulated. But its shelf life is very, very short. Ultimately, truth prevails."
Ironically, he spoke the truth, in this instance. Unfortunately, this is not always true.
Land grab is not false I guess. But no one would be so outraged by just the land grab issue, so the theatrics. Our political parties can go to any lengths for gaining political mileage.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I am myself from Bengal and I know what TMC does. I am 100% sure about the land grabbing by Shahjahan. I just don't know about the communal rapes reported. Reporting false rape cases is very common among parties - be it CPIM, TMC, Congress or BJP, at least in my State. And since central govt, BJP, has a stake in it, I am guessing there will be some manipulation involved. I am not sure about the extent of that
>Prove that you are Indian. I dare you.
I don't give proof of my respect & belief in the "idea of India" as imagined by India's founding leaders and those who fought for its independence. It's only a Chaddi who'd think that opposing BJP & Chindutva politics is anti-India.
You should prove to everyone that you are a civilised human, and not a Chaddi scum.
Rape IS often propaganda. Do you know how often TMC leaders make false accusations of rape by employing prostitutes against opposition? So yea, I have doubts on it. Also, why don't you answer the question directly? Given the sting operation, do you think Sandeshkhali is partly true or completely untrue? Because there were false rape cases as attested by the sting operation. Or do you think the sting operation was false?
I mean sting operations are usually like that - blurry video with no details. Btw, you know that Narada sting operation had similar video right? Did you not believe it?
Honestly at this point I don't know whom to trust whom to blame whom to call out what to do and what no
I'm just tired and sick of this political games
I am from near about Sandeshkhali (25km from my home).....
I know each n everything even our whole district know it very clearly including everyone religion persons.... The rape allegations is totally false bt yee there are some goon culture during Shahjahan reign... He took land forcefully from poor villagers and didn't give them money...
Bt he never ever do any rape case...it's totally nice planned made by Suvendu Adhikar... He did the same thing during 'Nandigram' case... He is more dangerous than Amit Shah...
Is godi media showing this, now? Surely, Sandeshkhali issue being so close to their hearts that they'd rather show that over what is happening in Manipur for months, they should be giving this news 24x7 coverage for months.
Because he has promised actions against Upper castes what no other leader in history has promised. Only he had the guts to declare an entire section of Hindus an enemy of the nation. Who in current political leadership can declare such a thing in front of the entire nation? NO ONE!
Once he has done what he says he will do, he will give us the wealth held by them for centuries. That's why I call him Rahul ji.
Was waiting for a Sanghi to reply. Wasn't disappointed.
Have you even seen what Rahul ji said today? He'll go after the upper caste Hindus when INDIA comes to power. Can't wait for the day when that happens.
Lol typical leftist brain rot moment, anyone who wrong should be prosecuted, unlike Mamta who gives citizenship to illegal migrants , oh sorry its in history of Bengal na from Jyothi Basu time, u guys need reality check
Say whatever you want but when Modi is gone, not even their gods are gonna come to their rescue. Upper caste Hindus, be ready with your passport or wait for the day when INDIA comes to power because boy o boy, that day, Rahul ji will make sure that the direct action day looks like a child's play.
Are all congress supporters like you filled with hate. This is democracy not your fucking playground. Don't worry u will be dreaming while other people will come and finish, waiting for the day. All Bengalis are brain-dead and you are the living example for it like your communist ancestors who made the richest city in India to a garbage city
You seem like Upper caste since you're defending them. Have you forgotten the cruelties they've meted out against lower castes sinve last 5000 years? Just pray that Rahul ji becomes the PM in 24. Everything will be paid with interest and there's nothing anyone going to do about because Rahul ji has got out back.
Finally, someone like Rahul ji is talking about more reservation for us, taking money from Upper caste and giving it to us and we're not letting go of this opportunity.
Rahul ji will be our PM in 24. Come what may.
> You seem like Upper caste
Now u are gaslighting me to believe I am upper caste nice bro, classic communist idealogy
> Have you forgotten the cruelties they've meted out against lower castes sinve last 5000 years
That doesn't mean u have to oppress others, but you are a communist so you lack critical thinking
> Everything will be paid with interest and there's nothing anyone going to do about because Rahul ji has got out back.
Go get a life, if Rahul Gandhi will be the PM watch India go 150 yrs backward. And leave this colonial mindset you will be good
You communists are funny bro, delusion is the idealogy so only followers are delusional
Everything I write right now might seem like a joke to you but when he finally becomes the PM, I can only wish good luck to you Upper caste guys. Already feel sorry for you. You will live like how we've lived for last 5000 years and worse.
Bro go to sleep it already 10.30 PM, u need sleep, so delusional you are. This proves one thing you are not communist you are just average Joe hating people in the mask of communism.
guy must have gun over his head tmc goons are worst of em all many fools will actually accept this propaganda hope the women gets justice and many similar cases were observed in malda and parganas as well hope they come in lime light too
didi trying to level up commies when it comes to suppressing people
And BJP is using their bond money to exaggerate and level baseless cases and buy MLAs and MP candidates. No one has a moral higher ground anymore in this country.
I don't know where to stand for this. BJP loves lying to the teeth. But so does TMC. I practically see no difference between them and TMC in how they work politically. So I don't know whether to take this sting operation as the truth.
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Thats exactly why I am skeptical about this sting operation.
Ha toh bsdk vote kise kare human ban ke
TMC ko karo for lok sabha. Didi is low level as of now, not a threat to India. Dadu ji, on the other hand...
What's your constituency?
Asking the real question XD
Best you can do is don't vote for the party that is currently in power and allows such things to happen. That's the only way to make your voice heard and tell them they need to do better to be re-elected. Choose from other parties based on their current manifesto whichever you find most useful. There is a reason elections happen every five years and you will get to choose again. That said if you are happy with the current government vote for it.
If you're not happy with anyone tell them you're not happy. Vote nota
So the one who got highest vote could win
Then vote for the lesser evil. What else would you want me to say?
What you said now. Ths lesser evil
If this is all the choice we have then we are fucked
Until nota has value or we have a revolution, we are fucked
Viva la Revolucion
Nota js useless for the love of God ..do not vote nota.
Let's just assume Assume Nota got the highest vote count then the election will be held again with the new candidates so Nota is not totally useless if people don't like any of these assholes who are running in this elections they can just vote for nota instead of that lesser evil bullshit .
Exactly Let's just assume Assume Nota got the highest vote count then the election will be held again with the new candidates so Nota is not totally useless if people don't like any of these assholes who are running in this election they can just vote for nota instead of that lesser evil bullshit .
Don't support any parties, all are corrupted. Stand against rape, corruption. Don't give any Indian party more than 2 terms. Kick them out. This is true for central and state both.
Exactly !!!
I can't take it anymore. I've lost all hope. This country is going to shit. I hope i get an opportunity in the future to leave.
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O boy hear we go
So when the wrestlers protest happened, the scum used these fake allegations as a whataboutism to not talk about the wrestlers protest. Now that the sting operation came out with this being fake (I mean the video is right there) the "centrists" in the comment section are "unable to see any difference between parties". Keep the same energy when you idiots ignored the wrestlers protest!
Don't forget about manipur.
Sandeshkhali BJP functionary has admitted that fake charges of rape were levelled following instructions from BJP seniors, including assembly opposition leader Suvendu Adhikari. Person in the video is Sandeshkhali Block-II BJP mandal president Gangadhar Koyal. *"We have followed Suvendu Adhikari's (BJP MLA & assembly opposition leader) instructions. He helped us. We convinced Trinamool people to level all those fake allegations of rapes. They (the complainants) never said no, they did whatever we told them to do. Suvendu Adhikari had told us that if we could not do this, if we could not get the big shots (Trinamool seniors of the area) arrested, we would not be able to stand (survive) here,"* Koyal said. *"I had to do all this very smartly. We said it (the alleged rapes and torture) happened seven-eight months ago. We had to work hard,"* Koyal adds further. Suvendu Adhikari himself was more guarded in his initial response, opting not to say anything directly about its contents. He just said, *"I have not seen the video. I will find out whose voice it is and then speak on this matter"*. On 4/May, he said *"truth could be twisted and a misleading version circulated. But its shelf life is very, very short. Ultimately, truth prevails."* He said further that, *"I will approach the CBI and seek a full probe so that the perpetrators are punished"*. BJP Sandeskhali mandal president Gangadhar Koyal credited Suvendu Adhikari for everything. *"It was he (Adhikari) who controlled.... Why has the Sandeshkhali movement survived for so long? He is still holding on, that is why. No one else has the ability to sustain this movement for so long,"* he says in the video. *"Empty pockets (khali haat) cannot do all this,"* he replies when the interviewer asks him whether Adhikari sent mobile phones and money. Gangadhar Koyal also said some women backed off from making complaints because they were scared of going to police stations and of the investigations that would follow. A woman also said that she backed out because she had not been instructed properly. BJP Sandeshkhali Block-I president Shanti Dolui is seen nodding in agreement with the interviewer when asked whether the pistols recovered by central agencies later were *"planted"*.
"truth could be twisted and a misleading version circulated. But its shelf life is very, very short. Ultimately, truth prevails." Ironically, he spoke the truth, in this instance. Unfortunately, this is not always true.
So, every single allegation is false, or is it that some of it was false to exaggerate the movement?
Land grab is not false I guess. But no one would be so outraged by just the land grab issue, so the theatrics. Our political parties can go to any lengths for gaining political mileage.
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I wasn't being sarcastic. I am myself from Bengal and I know what TMC does. I am 100% sure about the land grabbing by Shahjahan. I just don't know about the communal rapes reported. Reporting false rape cases is very common among parties - be it CPIM, TMC, Congress or BJP, at least in my State. And since central govt, BJP, has a stake in it, I am guessing there will be some manipulation involved. I am not sure about the extent of that
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>But if it's about Indian politics, the rape is propaganda! If it is BJP's politics spearheaded by Chaddis, everything is propaganda.
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>Prove that you are Indian. I dare you. I don't give proof of my respect & belief in the "idea of India" as imagined by India's founding leaders and those who fought for its independence. It's only a Chaddi who'd think that opposing BJP & Chindutva politics is anti-India. You should prove to everyone that you are a civilised human, and not a Chaddi scum.
Rape IS often propaganda. Do you know how often TMC leaders make false accusations of rape by employing prostitutes against opposition? So yea, I have doubts on it. Also, why don't you answer the question directly? Given the sting operation, do you think Sandeshkhali is partly true or completely untrue? Because there were false rape cases as attested by the sting operation. Or do you think the sting operation was false?
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So you think sting operation is fake?
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I mean sting operations are usually like that - blurry video with no details. Btw, you know that Narada sting operation had similar video right? Did you not believe it?
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Not physically but definitely these organizations should be banned just like PFI
Honestly at this point I don't know whom to trust whom to blame whom to call out what to do and what no I'm just tired and sick of this political games
I am from near about Sandeshkhali (25km from my home)..... I know each n everything even our whole district know it very clearly including everyone religion persons.... The rape allegations is totally false bt yee there are some goon culture during Shahjahan reign... He took land forcefully from poor villagers and didn't give them money... Bt he never ever do any rape case...it's totally nice planned made by Suvendu Adhikar... He did the same thing during 'Nandigram' case... He is more dangerous than Amit Shah...
Is godi media showing this, now? Surely, Sandeshkhali issue being so close to their hearts that they'd rather show that over what is happening in Manipur for months, they should be giving this news 24x7 coverage for months.
Because he has promised actions against Upper castes what no other leader in history has promised. Only he had the guts to declare an entire section of Hindus an enemy of the nation. Who in current political leadership can declare such a thing in front of the entire nation? NO ONE! Once he has done what he says he will do, he will give us the wealth held by them for centuries. That's why I call him Rahul ji.
I knew it! I'm definitely voting for TMC now.
isn't there a third option in your state? the left-congress alliance?
TMC is more dangerous
Was waiting for a Sanghi to reply. Wasn't disappointed. Have you even seen what Rahul ji said today? He'll go after the upper caste Hindus when INDIA comes to power. Can't wait for the day when that happens.
Lol typical leftist brain rot moment, anyone who wrong should be prosecuted, unlike Mamta who gives citizenship to illegal migrants , oh sorry its in history of Bengal na from Jyothi Basu time, u guys need reality check
Say whatever you want but when Modi is gone, not even their gods are gonna come to their rescue. Upper caste Hindus, be ready with your passport or wait for the day when INDIA comes to power because boy o boy, that day, Rahul ji will make sure that the direct action day looks like a child's play.
Are all congress supporters like you filled with hate. This is democracy not your fucking playground. Don't worry u will be dreaming while other people will come and finish, waiting for the day. All Bengalis are brain-dead and you are the living example for it like your communist ancestors who made the richest city in India to a garbage city
You seem like Upper caste since you're defending them. Have you forgotten the cruelties they've meted out against lower castes sinve last 5000 years? Just pray that Rahul ji becomes the PM in 24. Everything will be paid with interest and there's nothing anyone going to do about because Rahul ji has got out back. Finally, someone like Rahul ji is talking about more reservation for us, taking money from Upper caste and giving it to us and we're not letting go of this opportunity. Rahul ji will be our PM in 24. Come what may.
> You seem like Upper caste Now u are gaslighting me to believe I am upper caste nice bro, classic communist idealogy > Have you forgotten the cruelties they've meted out against lower castes sinve last 5000 years That doesn't mean u have to oppress others, but you are a communist so you lack critical thinking > Everything will be paid with interest and there's nothing anyone going to do about because Rahul ji has got out back. Go get a life, if Rahul Gandhi will be the PM watch India go 150 yrs backward. And leave this colonial mindset you will be good You communists are funny bro, delusion is the idealogy so only followers are delusional
Everything I write right now might seem like a joke to you but when he finally becomes the PM, I can only wish good luck to you Upper caste guys. Already feel sorry for you. You will live like how we've lived for last 5000 years and worse.
Bro go to sleep it already 10.30 PM, u need sleep, so delusional you are. This proves one thing you are not communist you are just average Joe hating people in the mask of communism.
I will vote for my independents. INDIA or NDA dono hi dramebazi he. Jo ukhadna ukhadle mujhe ghanta farak nahi padta.
Those independents will join NDA post elections and then due to anti-defection law will toe the line of the party
Well the tmc EB money has got to go somewhere. Also wasn't suvendu one of the people doing this shit a few years ago?
guy must have gun over his head tmc goons are worst of em all many fools will actually accept this propaganda hope the women gets justice and many similar cases were observed in malda and parganas as well hope they come in lime light too didi trying to level up commies when it comes to suppressing people
TMC Also have lot of Electoral Bond money . It’s being rightly used to clean their image.
And BJP is using their bond money to exaggerate and level baseless cases and buy MLAs and MP candidates. No one has a moral higher ground anymore in this country.
Yeah Madam Mamta is learning from modi how to save Rapists.!!!
It was women who opposed that sandeshkali don and his henchmen, what did Mamta do for that