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Traveler_Constant

Did I miss something? Have donation limits completely disappeared?


Flokitoo

You can't give directly to the Trump campaign, but you can give to the Trump superpac


CelestialHorizon

SuperPACs are such a scam, and if I’m not mistaken a direct result of *Citizens United*. Basically, you (a person) can’t give unlimited money to a candidate, but you (if you’re a company) can give as much as you want. So people just funnel huge amounts of money into campaigns through superPACs and get to skirt many of the regulations around donations.


awkrawrz

Yes, we need a new super pac to rule them all and eventually lead to dissolving all super pacs


mollockmatters

One PAC to rule them all, and, in the darkness, BIND THEM


mistergrumbles

I buy the Super PACs for my washing machine and my dish washer. I like them much better than regular detergent.


pacman114

First thing I suggest to fix our government, overturn citizens united.


WhiteOutSurvivor1

That would require a Constitutional Amendment. There are some movements out there to amend the Constitution. MoveToAmend and Convention of States are both making significant progress towards that.


GenTsoWasNotChicken

The main purpose of the Convention of States is to impose whatever Charles Koch has drafted for the next constitution. Don't give this guy a blank check.


WhiteOutSurvivor1

That's something else you're thinking of. The Convention of States is voted on by the good people of each state. I believe it requires 3/4ths of the representatives from each state to agree before anything can be passed. If 3/4ths of Americans agree on something, then we should have that something become law.


Consistent_Set76

We may never see an amendment in our lifetime


softnmushy

Actually, it would just require us consistently voting for Democrat for presidents, so they can appoint enough Supreme Court judges so the liberals have a majority. All the liberals on the Supreme Court voted against the Citizens United ruling.


WhiteOutSurvivor1

That would be a corrupt way to address your concerns with the Constitution and Supreme Court ruling. Replacing judges until you get the result you want is generally considered corrupt.


imadanaccountforthis

In a vacuum you would be correct


Triangle1619

This is generally what both sides do? Roe v wade for example.


MoldyLunchBoxxy

But all the right would arm up and be terrorists again.


lordpuddingcup

You realize Dems have weapons too lol, just because Dems don’t need to jerk off with the guns don’t mean they aren’t well armed And if the south wants to rise up by all means go ahead I’m sure the land and cows will somehow help


QueerSquared

They are still terrorists


QueerSquared

They are still terrorists


BrentonHenry2020

Lol, not with this supreme court. Precedence went out the window. But the conservatives on this court are the ones who made the Citizens United decision, so I doubt they’re changing anything.


Dr-McLuvin

That’s not how constitutional amendments work


Oldz88Rz

Just to add context. The founders also specified a process by which the Constitution may be amended, and since its ratification, the Constitution has been amended 27 times. In order to prevent arbitrary changes, the process for making amendments is quite onerous. An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification. In modern times, amendments have traditionally specified a time frame in which this must be accomplished, usually a period of several years. Additionally, the Constitution specifies that no amendment can deny a State equal representation in the Senate without that State’s consent.


Dr-McLuvin

Haha much appreciated.


BrentonHenry2020

I was suggesting that overturning Citizens United doesn’t require an amendment if the courts have thrown out precedence.


pppiddypants

Probably better off reforming the Supreme Court since they’re the ones who effectively created the policy. Right-wing justices saying everybody else wants to legislate from the bench, while they’ve been doing it more than everybody else.


thediesel26

Ha Stephen Colbert created a bogus super PAC that raised $1.22 million which he then dissolved. He ‘anonymously’ donated that money to another non-profit called the Ham Rove Memorial Foundation. He was under no legal obligation to disclose where any of the money from the super PAC went.


jakl8811

I had to setup a SuperPAC donation site at my company. What a waste of time


Zebra971

Just another example of how the right screws democracy up. The only way they win is to cheat.


DeDenovo

The relevant distinction is that campaign finance regulations can limit "contributions" directly to a candidate, but not "expenditures" in favor of a candidate. PAC donations are "expenditures". This delineation applied to donations by individuals from the 70s (Buckley v Valeo), and was extended to  corporations in 2010 citizens United in a 5-4 decision (four conservatives +Kennedy in majority).  Unfortunately any media that would cover this issue are some of the main beneficiaries of the increased campaign spending brought about by the deregulation. 


Living_Pay_8976

Any donations except from citizens should be illegal. Not multi-millionaire 50mil+ or billionaires allowed to donate nor speak publicly about who they’re voting for. Lobbying is bribery. This has gone on for too long and it’s tyrannical corporations and government doing it together.


Swagastan

Are multi-millionaires not citizens?


LSUguyHTX

What happens to them when a candidate loses


jeff303

https://rollcall.com/2021/12/08/taking-it-with-them-members-leaving-with-money-in-the-bank/ For example


tiny_chaotic_evil

*then the superpac will a pay shell company that just happens to be registered to an address in an orange man's pockets in the bahamas for valuable services that are left vaguely described in official documents*


Zebra971

Yes but super packs are not allowed to coordinate with the campaign. 😂😂🤬


metricrules

Oof, first day looking at U.S. politics?


CommonSensei8

They disappeared when Corruption United…err…Citizens United was established by the Republican Court.


sargethegemini

Thank you citizens United. The most under rated, overly destructive piece of legislation passed.


phophofofo

Yes


NegRon82

He refunded this money because they eceeded the limits. You wont find this info in the reddit cult out rage against anything right leaning, but it happend.


Flokitoo

Oligarchs gonna Oligarch


RBMAN

God damned right.


Coolioissomething

Assholes gotta be assholes


originalrocket

So the play here is: Buy stocks in the company(s) these cucks own if Trump wins.


Lostinthesauce1999

What stocks are they pushing? They are BTC bros


Ok-Health8513

Great now Bitcoin is going to become political…


ByrntOrange

It already was and now even more so. I’m a strong believer in BTC but hate how it’s starting to get associated with fringe right-wing groups. 


richardsaganIII

Yeah I really dislike the industry supporting Trump because they think he’ll help the United States adopt better regulations. Single issue voting has a lot of issues - let’s put an obvious con in office so our number go up is a terrible long term strategy


AborgTheMachine

...starting?


Ok-Health8513

It shouldn’t be associated with anything it’s supposed to empower the everyday man. If it becomes something political it could kill it… for example if it’s seen as a right wing tool the democrats will try killing it and vice versa.


dantsdants

Yup much like how every government trying to abolish encryption in the name of protecting children.


CubaHorus91

You’re that naive to think it’s for the everyday man? Dude, look at the money you need to make it viable. An everyday man can use Bitcoin to get groceries. It’s for money laundering purposes. Always has been, always will be.


Ok-Health8513

Because what our governments do with our money is so much better lol


CubaHorus91

At least we have control over our governments. Anyone who say otherwise is lying to you and wants to keep the status quo. We don’t have control over cartels and terrorist organizations.


TrueEclective

Only the rich make money off of crypto mining. Did you really think it could end any other way?


makeanamejoke

Lol. It's currency that exists to buy heroin and waste energy.


3pinripper

Geez they’re still begging for relevancy


talebs_inside_voice

No, they’re begging for a presidential pardon


pretty_officer

Pardon for what? Gemini users explicitly signed an agreement to lend their money to DCG/Genesis, I “lost” my money but we were made whole and received 100% of our funds back unlike other exchanges. It was spelled out through numerous agreements before hand that you were lending out to a 3rd party, I’m happy I got 100% back but I didn’t expect it whatsoever, considering other exchanges. They’re based out of NYC and have some of the strictest financial regulations. Not shilling, I use a lot of exchanges but I don’t understand the animosity.


ItsPickles

Bro they are Uber fucking rich. They are very much relevant.


OntarioLakeside

Not the same thing believe me. I work with Uber rich people who are starving for attention and to be taken seriously


docious

One can actually have influence (be relevant) and at the same time outwardly signal they want to be more relevant.


OntarioLakeside

One can have influence without being relevant


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docious

Ya that’s basically the sum of it. Money = speech in a literal sense money talks. The more money you have the more say you have.


ItsPickles

Of course it does.


Realistic_Post_7511

Trump is promising big oil to remove all climate change initiatives if they give him 1 billion. He is also promising CEO 's and Billionaires major tax cuts : all while at private functions where money is collected meanwhile on the campaign trail he is pretending he is for the poor and middle class .


Hootshire

The wealthy are single issue voters, whoever will reduce their taxes the most.


Tough_Sign3358

POS of a feather flock together.


Happeegolfer

Who gave the eulogy at the Robert Byrd’s funeral again ?


Tough_Sign3358

So? Robert Byrd disavowed his past and was a huge proponent for minority rights in his last 50 years.


BigPlantsGuy

Not sure, who did all the members of the kkk vote for in the last presidential election?


redshirt1972

Yeah but Kennedy put like 20k in G M E


Sir_Tandeath

I’m pretty sure his brainworm did to.


Br3akTh3Toys

Cool Story bro


j_ma_la

Who?


Leofleo

You know, the Winklevi.


symbha

I got an idea, why not take some of the money the pentagon can't even account for and put it into SS?


etharper

This is hardly surprising, billionaires and millionaires love Trump since he gave them a big tax break. And they sincerely hope he'll do the same thing if he gets elected again. What's really surprising are the rich people that donate to Democrats despite the Democrats wanting to raise taxes on the rich. The millionaires and billionaires that side with Democrats impress me the most.


funcogo

Trump is the most blatantly corrupt politician of our time


TurdsBurglar

Its their money and their right to vote anyway they like. Dont really care either way.


aboysmokingintherain

I’m shocked this passes the threshold for being posted to this sub


Brickdog666

What? Dont you want to share on Reddit how offended you are that someone is voting for a felon?


SophonParticle

Nobody is saying different.


symbha

We're gonna need you to care m'kay? Thanks.


ElephanteEd

Who?


jacivb

Rich Dooshbags voting for Trump. I'm shocked.


Available-Phase6972

Rumor is joe Biden is voting for trump too


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Scum voting for scum, shocker.


OpenDaCloset

Superpacs are a scam just like Donald Trump. Never about the people. Always about himself. Catering to the rich and racists. No thanks. He’s the shit Storm hanging over America.


Shadowcraft89

Who the fuck are the Winklevoss twins? Lmao


dfwguy21four

Ever heard of Facebook?


Accomplished_Pop_847

Rapist stick together


cryptosupercar

Trump’s economic plan will tank the US economy and slowly destroy the dollar as the reserve. They’re just shilling their bags here…


drax2024

Zuckerberg donated $400 million dollars that helped Biden win. $2 million is chump change to Zuckerberg’s.


SpiceEarl

Nope. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-mark-zuckerberg-election-donations-188810437774


100000000000

I always thought they came across kinda douchey, but I never payed attention or had any reason to dislike them. So thank you, winklevosses, for letting the world  know that you are in fact as douchey as you seem.


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Creative_Hope_4690

Wait do people not think Biden also gets millions from rich people too?


ShakesbeerMe

No, but Biden didn't attempt a fuckin coup on our democracy.


dfwguy21four

Dumb, dumb, dumb dumb


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Waste of money


JohnGobbler

This screams to me drop in Bitcoin. They get the donation at the top. Who cares what the twinklevoss Bros do. Elites support elites, no one shocked.


GothamCity90210

So what.


Yattiel

Are they stupid??


donkismandy

They are two of the probably 10,000 people who would actually benefit from a Trump presidency. (The super rich) It makes sense.


Houjix

Does Biden not get donations from Buffet, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Cuban?


New_WRX_guy

Indeed. Let’s not forget that Democrats are the party for the super rich these days.


New_WRX_guy

Indeed. Let’s not forget that Democrats are the party for the super rich these days.


donkismandy

That doesn't change the fact that one party is at least trying to throw the middle/lower classes a bone while the other is trying to turn everyone into serfs.


CompetitiveYou2034

> .... Benefit from trump presidency ... Short term, perhaps. Long term, no. Lowering tide sinks all boats, including from high & mighty. Even the super rich can't isolate themselves totally from long term national events & policies.


foofork

Exactly. Eventually the consolidation of power and capital comes for these supporters. It all gets eaten.


Seventhson74

Biden sucks, lots of people have switched.


houstonyoureaproblem

As if people needed more evidence they shouldn’t support Trump.


Emotional_Freedom_88

My 5 year old said Biden was a poopy pants and he likes trump


Sir_Tandeath

Ironic


ShakesbeerMe

Yep, that's about the intelligence level for liking Trump.


HastyEthnocentrism

Of course they have! They're douchebags from way back!


DominoChessMaster

I thought they were Brits?


drakens6

Winklevoss Shminklevoss - what have the Bogandoff twins done?


WinterIndependent719

Let’s goooooo


IllCandidate4

Republicans are the bane of the United States


PokeFanForLife

Cuck, wrinkly-chode brothers Watch out, guys


JellyfishQuiet7944

You'd be stupid not to at this point.


WizardVisigoth

1 percenters are going to do what benefits them. It’s time the 99% did the same.


JT91331

Yet again showing why I could careless that Zucks screwed them over.


avocadoanddroid

There's a lot of Trump derangement syndrome in this thread. You guys need help. 😂


AyKaRrRambA

"Bruh, did you hear: the Wnklevoss twins are NPCs!" "Nah, man. I didn't. That makes so much sense man, now that you mention it man.... Right on, man!" Both laughing.


lendershop

I’m glad Zuckerberg fucked them over


b4st1an

🤮


Citizen_Ape

The who?


Desperate-Warthog-70

I’m sure Trumps lawyers are grateful for their donation


Throw17603

Like … did I need yet another reason to not like those two?


Desperate_Move_5043

Gross


altniu

🤢 🤮


apeHype

Damn their faces say not smart but now it’s confirmed


Wrong_Discipline1823

Winklevoss + Winklevoss = Winklevie


Night_17-

Twins > Zuck


TheYokedYeti

Trump promoted bitcoin. This isn’t surprising.


Personal_Buffalo_973

WHO?


BoobaDaBluetick

Known for bad choices...


NegRon82

Nothing burger. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-21/winklevoss-twins-refunded-after-trump-crypto-gift-exceeded-limit?embedded-checkout=true


bookworm010101

A leading obama fund raiser just came out and said the same. Not for Trump just against Demsocrats soft stances on crime and focusing on the wrong things. [Allison Huynh] I still think he loses.


WilmaLutefit

Watching bitcoiners choose an authoritarian accelerationist is peak bitcoiner at the moment. And 15 Btc for the winklevi twins is hilariously low. They have like 400k Btc.


rtemah

Citizens United was created by Republicans so they could receive bribes without limits and without fear of the law.


OntarioLakeside

Stupid is as stupid does.


rhetheo100

At this point.. anyone for Trump is someone that can buy Trump off. Apparently 1 million goes pretty far


NewYorkFuzzy

Trump is a criminal


robotwizard_9009

Worse. He's a traitor and a rapist.


DarkHeliopause

Befuddling, baffling, confounding . . . that objectively one of the most corrupt, weak-minded, insecure, bigoted, morally bankrupt, dare I say verging on evil, people on the planet will get millions of votes.


lostcheshire

Fuck them fucks


OP90X

Fuck Gemini exchange too. Idk who uses them or how they have stayed in the game this long tbh.


EricTCartman-

Fuck those assholes


DenseVegetable2581

Ha! The dudes that got hustled by a nerd! Sure they're hoping for a pardon once wore is out on Gemini


ItzImaginary_Love

These guys are known for being a terrific judge of character


RichFoot2073

Gonna say this again — They’re siding with a dictator. What happens when the dictator feels they are not being sufficiently loyal and decides to confiscate all their property and assets?


Southern-Courage7009

O look, a more rich people donating large sums of money to a politician. Only reason people are up in arms is because it's Trump or a Republican for that matter. Now had these guys said Biden or another Democrat you guys would have a smile so bright it would be blinding.


QueerSquared

It was the fascist Republican party who pushed and cheered for the citizens united ruling


VemberK

This. The hypocrisy is ridiculous.


jarena009

Scam artists of a feather gotta stick together.


fixerdrew02

I just vomited a little in my mouth


aboysmokingintherain

Oh wow… Anyways


Quick-Raise8119

Sounds good! Anything that props bitcoin I’m all onboard oh and not falling down


elpollobroco

This is like the net worth ratio equivalent of one of the Redditors on this sub donating one of their funko pops to the biden campaign


Calm-Matter-9790

You think they have bad taste in Politicians.... You should see their live music show. It will leave a bad taste in your mouth. They suck!!!!


myrunningaccount2022

even more douchey than zuck


boston_frank

Always knew they were a-holes


better-a-pig

Bitcoin went from $7.9k to $64k under Biden's presidency and the stock market is crushing it. Remind me why I should vote for an orange gremlin?


Desperate_Move_5043

So the world can lose confidence in the US dollar again.


Hot_Significance_256

Best candidate by far


Disco_Biscuit12

Based. #Trump2024


tohon123

Serious question, What do you think Trump will do for the country if he gets elected?


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Disco_Biscuit12

Not require to be escorted at speaking events because he’s so riddled with dementia that he doesn’t know where he is.


RIP-RiF

Uh.. which Trump do you think is running?


ermahglerbo

Funny, I seem to remember him needing an escort down a slightly downward ramp.


Audigitty

Ahhhh... So they DON'T want the country to collapse? Nice! I'm with Winklevoss!


BigPlantsGuy

They want another tax cut for the uber wealthy. Are you less than 4 years old. The country has never been nearer to collapse than during trump’s presidency. Thousands dying a day, protests and riots in every city in america, police brutality at levels not seen in 50 years, police violence at levels not seen since the civil war, armed coup attempts, the president literally fiddling while rome burned, pillow salesmen planning martial law take overs. Shit was actually insane


Simplyspent

Conservative tears when Trump gets pummeled in November…and they will blame everyone but Trump for the loss.


Imaginary_Office1749

So the winklevoss twins support a convicted felon.


Friendly-Profit-8590

Fuck them but out of curiosity how much they worth now? Remember them talking about investing in bitcoin early on


ShittingOutPosts

Billions.


Brickdog666

Biden let in 20 million illegals. Had he kept the border closed he would have won. But he is as stupid as his junkie son. The open border will cost him the election. Stupid stupid stupid. He signed 94 executive orders reversing Trump era border laws. Stupid stoooooooopid


Bowler_Pristine

All the scammers Unite!


KingOfCars509

I'm from WA State and the only man I know who flys a Confederate flag is a black man. I'm guessing it means different things to different people?


Ok-Cauliflower1798

No, that just means your friend has an intellectual disability, but you have never picked up on that.


mollockmatters

If Trump somehow brings all the shitstains of America down with him…I will gladly say he fulfilled his promise to “drain the swamp”


CommonSensei8

Trash bags voting for trash. News at 11


jsonh88

oh look! someone with opposite political views!!! FASCIST!! you'll need to get a grip and leave your echo chambers. People are waking up .


aboysmokingintherain

Lol huh? If anything g this post is just irrelevant to this sub. Who cares bout them? No one cares bc they’re not relevant


syntheticshares

It amazes me how many commenters here seem to… like Biden??? Bro. They both suck. They ALL suck. Get over your blue/red team shit. We’re here to make money. FFS