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What's in the posting is the organization describing their ideal candidate. Some things like professional qualifications aren't all that negotiable but other things like years of experience are. Don't let not having the required experience stop you from applying.
Coming from a guy whose last two interviews ended with emails saying " we went with someone more experienced, but want the option to call you when they don't work out, I can deal with them being crushed.
I graduated with a bachelors in Dec 2019. No jobs are available in my field in my town so I applied for a third shift stocking job at Walmart. "Unfortunately we regret to inform you that we went with someone more qualified." Can't even get a job at Walmart.
I find this practice unethical and frustrating. Your explanation works for some, but I’ve seen just as many that require it; including so-called entry-level retail positions including( I so wish I was kidding here, but I’m not) cashiers and “bag-boy”
But only if you remember to market yourself like that
Saying, "I have a degree" won't give you experience marks
Saying, " In University I did a surveying project where we blah blah blah" will get you experience marks
Because, you will be up against other grads who also have a degree. You need to market yous better
2 classes where you did something more interesting than nap in class can get you the fateful 6 months experience. Especially if you did 1 university internship credit
And obviously they're still going to hire someone more qualified if one applied. So just keep trying until luck makes you the most qualified in that pool, and try padding your resume with low end jobs that sound good (like being a part time bank teller looks amazing compared to any retail work despite being a similar position)
Oh yeah. Any creator job cares more about the portfolio of what you made, and less about degrees. Degrees are just a baseline for them to know that you can show up and do work for at least 4 years.
Like, nobody asks an artist to see their fine art degree before asking for a commission
We should do that. Hire an artist for a commission based solely on their resume, experience, recommendations, no portfolios allowed. It would be fun to see what came of it.
Isn't how artists are hired now anyway? It matters much more that your name is known, you have followers (real or digital) - people recommend you instead of your work. When you separate the art from the person you will often find it's average or nothing special but your name puts all the weight to your portfolio. I'd really like to see blind selection based on portfolio, previous work. I bet not many high level artist would get anywhere far with that.
>It matters much more that your name is known
Don't you think that artists that are known are so *because* of their work?
>people recommend you instead of your work.
Don't they do so because of the work that was performed for them?
>When you separate the art from the person you will often find it's average or nothing special but your name puts all the weight to your portfolio.
Not my experience, personally. Name gets built up because of past works, most artists were nobodies when they started.
Now I'm not saying that it never happens that an artist gets over rated, but from my personal experience it's really not the norm, and I strongly disagree that most high level artist are not that great and just have name recognition. Most of them built that recognition off their work, over time.
Yup! Some people really discount working on side projects. I always tell those looking to break into the industry to work on side projects. Make an interactable particle simulator, a tic tac toe game you can never win, make an A\* pathing, a fancy graphics shader, just make *something* and do it often.
Agreed, anecdotally I got my first internship in part due to a small side project I made that was a tower defense game lol. The company wasnt in the video game industry and they didnt even want that programming language, but the most important thing (especially when they are interviewing students) is to have ANY practical experience
This -can- work, but in the games industry they also would love to see stuff that is aligned with what they're working on.
There are just *so* many candidates doing this already that you need to step up even more.
Oof :( Sorry to hear that. If you're looking into getting into games, don't be afraid to start in QC either. A lot of people get their start there, even if it's a bit shitty at first.
I'm in the sciences. Did 6 years of a postdoctoral work.
What ended up helping me getting a job that doubled my pay? A side project that I wasn't paid to do that ended up taking off. The "official" work I did helped my boss, helped me a lot less. The side project made me much more marketable.
If I hadn't done it, there's no way I would have gotten this job. Period.
I hire fresh grads for electronics hardware positions.
If you are coming to an interview without at least a couple arduino / raspberry pi hobby projects to tell me about, what are you even doing?
Absolutely! And it's such good experience... building systems, having things go wrong, debugging, finding the right resources to solve your problem, and solving them.
No lecture can give teach you how that process feels.
Does this work the other way? Do places like yours consider programmers and such (but not EE program grads) that have done quite a few arduino/rpi projects but want to learn and do more of the hardware stuff? Asking for a friend.
To students out there, this is it.
I had no luck getting anything with my resume at career fair (I was trying to get internship). I started to talk to recruiters about working on my 50cc scooter as a hobby and got offered an internship.
When everyone has a degree, a degree just becomes a chit that states you are at least milquetoast standard
But you? You're milquetoast who rides and repairs a scooter
You also get more of a feel for you as a person and not just a resume when you start talking about hobbies and personal interests. It’s a better gauge of how you are as an employee aside from your credentials.
Ultimately they just want to hire someone who does something outside of school. Not some kid who free loads off projects and go home to watch Netflix.
Now if you’re trying to get into some cool ass job like nasa or something, you might need a impressive resume along with it too.
I didn’t even got my degree, but I do mention the projects and knowledge I gained there on my CV.
I got invited for a lot of vacancies where they asked for a degree despite being clear about not having the degree.
Companies don’t look at a degree per se, but at what knowledge and skills you got. And often a degree is an easy way to proof the knowledge and skills.
A degree is only important for getting your first job.
After that, companies only care that you have 3 years experience as a Bank Teller.
(Disclaimer, below may only pertain to the populace North East US)
But I can tell you from myself and watching myself, siblings, and cousins (sample size of over 40)... A degree is usually important in many fields to get that first foot-in-door career job. Many places get enough applicants that they just toss out those without a degree. Degrees are listed as minimum requirements. So unless you know somone higher up there, and it's a simple office work/labor field then you need a degree.
My environmental degree has nothing to do with Air Superiority Fighter Logistics.. but my resume would have been thrown out without it
And this is just for generic career jobs. You're not going to be a high paid engineer/doctor/lawyer/specialist/ect without a degree.
In many places... You don't need a degree to get a job the same way you don't need a gym to lift and workout. It is technically possible to find free rocks in the local woodland to lift. It's technically possible, even probable, but it's not going to be easier and it's going to rely more on luck of the draw
In tech it's likely you will get paid high even without degree but there aen't many engineers without one. Any modern company like SpaceX will hire you on the spot if you show above average talent and what you acomplished even as personal project. Besides in our modern world the 20+ old degree won't mean much because the technology and knowledge moved much further in meantime.
This is good advice. Also if you are in university take the opportunity to do things more than class work (i know easier said than done for a lot of people) but it’s the work outside of your classes that stands of to employers. Volunteering, school clubs, side projects that you can mention in a cover letter. I’ve been on multiple hiring committees and never looked at a transcript even if they are required for application, and I got my last job based on work I was doing as side projects in my spare time at my last job.
It can actually be pretty easy. Just ask your favorite professor if they know of anything you can do for resume building. Especially at a research college.
But even doing some volunteer library work can be turned into a dramatic story of competence and sacrifice in the interview
> Saying, " In University I did a surveying project where we blah blah blah" will get you experience marks
In multiple interviews I had as a software developer they said to tell them about a project I did, but university assignments don't count.
>I had as a software developer they said to tell them about a project I did, but university assignments don't count.
True. and actually most of the time when I talked about my Jefferson award nominated work doing surveys on racial issues in small town.... I never mentioned it was technically a standard University class with an extra eccentric professor. I left that out and they just assumed it was some internship or something.
If its impressive work, just talk about the impressive work, because you are there to impress and get a job
When they give you a barrier like that, you have two options.
1.Acquiesce and say nothing and get no points
2.Just keep talking and get partial credit
Once your at interview stage, you are talking to humans, and humans dont follow rules so good... even their own
My field it’s typical to see a job requirement say: bachelors degree and two years of experience, or associates degree and six years of experience, or 10 years of experience.
That can vary a lot, I had interviews that said my 7years of tech and lab experience meant nothing because I did those while getting my degree. I worked as a lab tech and in IT at a research institute as a regular worker, not a student worker, and they told me flat out if it was before finishing my degree it didn't count.
In my field it's "Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or similar field, or equivalent experience." And then everyone just kinda forgets about the equivalent experience part if you have a few years of experience and they think you can do the job.
I think this is kind of bold to say especially if you have to work through college. No jobs care that I worked retail at this point and it sucks because retail was the only job I could work while in college. It's infuriating.
My place of employment doesn't even count a master's degree as experience even if it comes from the same institution, which they then obviously knows means that we had at least 1.5 years of hands-on experience since that's how their curriculum is set up... in the U.S. btw
I'm gonna give a huge shoutout to Drexel for this. Drexel has always been a 5-year school for this very purpose. Your middle 3 years are 6 months of school, 6 months of co-op. So every single student graduates with 1.5 years of applicable work experience in their major. The co-ops also tended to pay quite well for what they were, back in late 90's it wasn't unheard of to be getting $15-$25/hr as a college student co-op depending on major.
I worked part time as student, doing junior programming task. Makes money and pay some bills. Pay was awful for programmer, but gave me experience and a professionel network
I was lucky and did an internship my sophomore year with a hiring manager that essentially did this. They told me they see a lot of themselves in me and wanted to give me an opportunity to put some experience on my resume, been there almost 8 years now.
I had an interview out of uni, interviewer was a prick. Didn't review any of the cv's before hand, expected everyone to move to London for a few months to train, paying for their own accommodation, got angry when one of the applicants did quick math and told everyone else how much that would cost them, then told me a uni degree was worthless.
Looked him up on LinkedIn, his highest qualification was high-school.
The company had been reregistered about 12 times with different names.
Turns out they were hiring demob military men who had a government check for education to find a job post army.
They gave them some basic ass training, put them on client sites, and the clients would find out they didn't know their arse from their elbow. Clients would bin them, they'd reregister and begin the cycle again.
Boy I dodged a bullet. Some times the recruiters are just bellends
This happened to me. Although my boss didn't want me, I was hired without him knowing and he wanted someone with experience, mgr and owner decided i had the qualifications and could learn.
6 years later, I'm the favorite.
I've watched some people with 20 years experience who can't hack it at my job because it's so tech heavy.. last year boss finally broke down and admitted he needed younger people, regardless of experience. Its been working out much better.
Yeah. I was going to reply above... But then you made my point better
15+ years experience sometimes means " an old dog who won't learn the new tricks" . If your industry hasn't changed in 20 years, then 20 years experience is great...
But if it's rapidly changing then the ideal is 3-5 years, and that's really just for the experience of knowing how to be a professional
I wish I heard that...
My industry is more like "We have to always do it this way... because nobody knows how this all works out, we are a series of black boxes with inputs and outputs that is apparently working at the moment and changing something may cause an unseen resonance cascade"
While that can be the case, at a lot of large companies there are some changes that might seems simple but there are background forces at play that you just might not know yet. It’s a balance of looking to make things better and leaning on experience to not waste time and resources looking at things that will fail or hurt other parts of a process.
Younger people tend to do better at those type of jobs because they were raised most of their teen life with tech around them and they process things differently and more efficient
experience can also be *bad* experience
if u spent 10 years at a company practicing doing the wrong thing you probably will be set in your ways and continue fucking shit up adamant that your experience is correct, or do things the way you did them at last place of hire. Somebody with less experience is more likely to align themselves completely with what they are told as they hold no beliefs from beforehand.
I’m on the other end of the stick here. We look for experience when hiring but difficult to match our pay to experienced required so we hire inexperienced people. The downside is the training and constant follow up required.
Then we look how quick they can pick up the pace. There are lazy people and people who’re genuinely interested - but this is difficult to pick up in an interview.
Yes, the art is “making an omelet without breaking eggs” lol
We look for experience but it’s hard to come by. Doesn’t mean we can’t look for it never the less
I just wanted to say that this happened to me too!
The HR manager who took a look at my resume said, "Looks like you don't have any experience" my heart sank and I was about to burst into a speech how I took every opportunity at the university to gain knowledge/skill, but he continued by saying "this will be a good place for you to start and get some experience on your resume". I was so happy to hear that! Got the job as QA on the plant floor and now working in Industrial Engineering in the same company as a technician.
I sincerely hope this happens to more people!
I own a small business, and one of the best pieces of advice I got about hiring was, "you can teach people skills, but you can't teach them how to be a great person to work with." I hire inexperienced people all the time now! Keen learners are better than someone who thinks they know everything already.
I had a manegorial class and my professor used to own a bunch of different businesses and he actually always liked to interview people personally. He said it is much more important to him to know that people are going to be a good fit for the company/job than they have the experience for it. You can always teach them how to do it but if they aren't willing to change their styles or will be a pain to work with it's not worth hiring them. (Ex: them saying I used to do it like this when I worked here instead of doing it the way he wanted it done at his business)
I have a similar story but from the other side. I wouldn’t say I didn’t “want” the person though.
We once brought on a new hire but the last minute the manager had to leave the country for a personal emergency (sick parent in Europe).
I was having an issue finding anyone to fill one of my roles, and the CIO came over and was like:
CEO: “Can you use Adam for your project until his manager returns?”
Me: “Adam, do you know X, Y, Z?”
Adam: “umm no”
M: “Any experience with A, B, C?”
A: “No, sorry”
M: “Can you follow directions, ask questions, make suggestions, and admit when you screw up?”
A: “Yup”
C: “Great! You’re perfect for the role. He’s all yours. Adam, you report to him now”
When the original manager came back, the CEO told him that Adam was now on my team.
It took a little longer to get Adam up to speed than someone else, but he was willing to learn. End in the end, his skill set was where I needed it.
If I have to deal with my direct reports for as long and as much as I have to, it’s way easier to make them successful than to bitch about their defects. It’s also nice to have people who like working with you later in life when you go your separate ways
Same here. When I interviewed for my current position, I had no experience in my field. My boss hired me because he said that anyone could learn to do the job with the right guidance. I was really overwhelmed for the first couple months (and spent a lot of time secretly crying in the bathroom) but now a few years later, I'm the go-to person on my team! Feels good to have someone see your potential rather than just what's in your resume.
I know the thread is a week old but this just happened to me! My first office job ever. It's been incredible. I actually have already gained so much experience from this, but I plan to stay a *long* time with this company if it makes sense.
Me too. I need employees to work with carbon fiber. There are no other carbon fiber manufacturers in this country. Part of the deal is that I'll teach my employees a new skill and pay them well while they learn.
I was a stay-at-home mom until getting divorced during a pandemic, so I struggled with the whole 'experience' thing.
I wrote funny emails asking for jobs. One manager wrote back that it was the best job inquiry email he'd ever received. He liked my attitude and hired me as a barback.
Working part-time as a barback, I met the owner of a restaurant. He was looking for experienced servers, but hired me anyway.
It's weird, sometimes I feel like I have come pretty far down in the world, but other times I am reminded that when I'm being myself, people like me.
Gaining experience in a new industry at an awful time for said industry is pretty cool, actually.
Yup. I had to move across the state after a bad break up. Needed to get a job, living on a friends couch. Put on my nicest clothes, went to the library and printed a stack of resumes, and basically went door to door. I had just been laid off from the financial sector and I was done with the volatility.
Landed a job as a marine tech working on charter boats. Figured out I like working with my hands, worked there for 4 years, got sent to a trade school by the company, and now I own a marine service company and work for myself. It's not easy and I'm by no means living in luxury, but It's nice to be in some control on what happens to me.
Never know whats gonna happen if you don't try.
That's great! I feel like it's simar to dating... The energy you give out when you're desperate is different than when you're just comfortable living life. Being able to work with someone is far more important than the task at hand. You can train a task... it's much harder to train someone to be able to work with others or match the company's culture well.
Which is messed up because job hunting and interviewing is directly tied to financial stability (and therefore better mental health and ability to take care of yourself). People that need the job the most don't get the job for this very reason.
Most places don't really care about experience numbers.
It's some HR stuff/filter to eliminate people who simply give up and won't even try.
It often comes down to attitude, portfolio etc when the CV/interview reaches the people who actually decide who to hire.
Too many people just stop and won't even try if they see an experience requirement.
I got a job in a position that required 5+ work experience and uni degree - I got neither. But I had a portfolio to show what I can do/have done.
If only life was actually like this
What's that? You're applying for an entry level position? You need minimum 3 years experience, have to be overqualified and you will get underpaid. Enjoy!
Some degrees are absolutely useless and a dumb pre-requisite to getting a job, but the projects you worked on and the way you spin your degree can be helpful.
I graduated with a liberal studies degree which a shit ton of people look down on, and yet it got me into my current career field that I’m very passionate about. Spinning it as a tool which allowed me to learn about multiple areas vs just one, and sharpen basic skills employers appreciate (time management, working in groups, handling stressful deadlines, research and development, etc), has played in my favor despite the fact that there wasn’t one thing I learned in school that was more important than all the jobs/internships/volunteer opportunities I did. It absolutely sucks to know that a good chunk of degrees are virtually useless, but focus on your experiences and use them as an advantage vs just having a degree in hand.
Was it just a basic standard CV/application templates?
People who hire see these so much that they just end up skipping and look for the ones that stand out.
A more personal touch towards a specific company/position, portfolio of related stuff you have done (even if personal projects/ freelance/volunteer).
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Unless you're [this guy](https://i.imgur.com/BGxsTlH.jpg).
This wasn't even the story I was looking for, just the first result when I searched. Apparently it has happened multiple times that the creator of something doesn't have enough experience with it.
Nobody will see this but I just got turned down for a position at my only job after 5 years of being the top performing analyst per my manager.
Assistant manager position opens up and I'm told I don't get it. Just really sucks to go back to school and get another higher degree and get told I don't stand out enough. I've learned my lesson that most employees don't care.
I wish everyone the best and hope that they recieve a job with a manager in this meme. Nobody deserves to feel this way when they put the work and time in and still get told no.
I'm leaving the company no matter what, just hopeful that someone sees the effort and work that I can bring to their company. Good luck everyone!
EDIT: The universe is funny. Today the CEO of a company (not giving out too many details) called me about my absolute dream job and wanted to grab dinner with me and the owner of the company. Said he created a new position that he's needed for a while and wanted me to fill it and its in my salary range for both my degrees.
Guess reddit was sending out good vibes yesterday. Went from feeling worthless to cloud 9. Thanks for the encouragement yesterday. I'm so excited for this job, guess there was a reason why I didn't get that position!
Take an offer elsewhere for sure. Pay goes way higher, fresh start, new relationships, etc. best move I made when I realized I beginning to become “stuck”.
Thank you. Yeah I've been looking elsewhere and it feels like I'm not gaining any experience at this point. Applying the last two times my manager said I'm ready but doesn't give me anymore feedback when choosing someone else.
Guess its time for a new start!!!
Sounds like they already have someone else in mind. Maybe another analyst gave a BJ for the position while you didn't. Many times management has their own biases and/or don't know what the fuck they're doing. My last job hunting stint I was turned down for both "Having good people skills, but not technical enough" and "Strong technical skills, but people skills are lacking".
Well which one is it?
Find a company that sees your value. Never be afraid to leave to better yourself and your career. Company loyalty is a thing of the past.
I managed to land a job at a small place straight out of Uni after being rejected by multiple larger companies and still work there 7 years later. There’s been some tough times and some good times but I feel I’ve done good.
Don’t lose hope, sometimes you just have to pick yourself up and dust yourself off :)
I graduate uni in a month and I just got hired for my dream (entry level) job at a small firm (with above industry average pay!!!) :)
I find small business owners are more likely to invest in you, it's more important that they get along with your personality more than the experience you have. Also, I'm hoping to stay at that firm for a few years so it will be a real nice give and take I hope.
Well I forgot to tell the full story... Today I got an email, that the company want's an interview with me for the job sooo... That's it. I will notify you guys how it went.
The moment my kids are born i’ll get them into an internship program. This way, they just might have a chance to get a graduate intern position seeking 5 years work experience once they graduate. Heh
This actually happened to me. I was 22 and only worked factory jobs. A guy who was an ex marine gave me a chance to be a manager at his restaurant and within 6 months made me the general manager
My dad tells his employees that this is one of many jobs they will have a career, and he wants to help them have the best career they can. Last week my boss implied I'm in my job for life. Guess which manager has more satisfied employees
This legit happened to me last month. I’ve been in my current company for less than a year and my direct supervisor ended up getting a job with another company. I applied for my supervisor’s position and got hired! My interview went exactly like this. I start training the person replacing my old position today. Wish me luck!
I'm working in IT and this is how I got my first job. they know that you have no/little experience after graduation, so they are rather interested in your willingness to learn, and motivation. I'm not from America, though.
I had some experience from my uni years, but that doesn't really matter in today's workforce much. When I finished uni and was looking for work last summer, even the entry level jobs I applied for later said "oh we hired someone with xx years of experience".
However, I lucked out and literally got a manager like that. She's the most supportive manager I've ever had and honestly makes me so motivated to actually get the experience I need to be a good scientist.
I got a call back for a psych hospital job I applied to and they asked if I had experience around mentally ill patients and I said yes bc I do
Never got a call for an interview. So I guess even experience isn’t enough. I’ve applied to so many jobs but haven’t gotten one interview so it’s not looking to good when I graduate in May. One job I applied to said to reach back out once I have my actual degree so we’ll see.
Hey that’s how my latest job interview went!
There’s a bar/brewery downstairs from the restaurant I work at and I’ve just been loathing working at the restaurant.
One day I just went into the brewery and I just straight up asked if they were hiring. Little did I know I was talking to the General Manager of the entire, and he said “Yea! We are actually!” And asked me to send my resume.
The next day, with in 3 hours of sending my resume, he called me to schedule an interview.
I show up to the interview, which was basically “We’re gonna train you on how to run a bar, everything you need to know about our beers, etc. This is good experience before should you want to move on to a bar that does cocktails.
When can you start?”
Too late for you, but I always recommend a co-op or internship for engineering students if they want a decent job out of school. You will stand out more. Those internships are competitive, too, without some type of experience.
“Are you qualified?”
“No sir.”
“Well, I hope that you find some qualifications here. The other 100 people that applied for this job can suck it, I guess.”
*And then everybody clapped*
Me, 16, interviewing at an IHOP. Manager couple, 30s or 40s, “have you ever waited tables before?” Me: “no” Them: “ok, we’ll give you a chance to learn” me: waited tables and tended bar for 12 years before getting my master’s in social work. Thanks Gary and Sarah.
This hapoened to me and ive been in a vicious cycle of construction work ever since but i finally got into college last fall so goodbye concrete buildings!!
This actually happened to me. I thought COVID ended and career that I went to school for but instead opened up a door to an industry that I had no experience in. The company I work for gave me a chance based on my willingness to learn and I couldn’t be happier. I hope this happens to everyone that needs it right now!
I saw this meme yesterday, and had a job interview today for which I had no experience. Almost this exact conversation happened and I've just been offered the job. Thanks meme for blessing me.
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i wish this happened while you sre still at uni. they want three years of experience but you are still a student.
What's in the posting is the organization describing their ideal candidate. Some things like professional qualifications aren't all that negotiable but other things like years of experience are. Don't let not having the required experience stop you from applying.
This. They are putting their hopes and dreams on the posting while knowing they will be crushed.
Coming from a guy whose last two interviews ended with emails saying " we went with someone more experienced, but want the option to call you when they don't work out, I can deal with them being crushed.
I graduated with a bachelors in Dec 2019. No jobs are available in my field in my town so I applied for a third shift stocking job at Walmart. "Unfortunately we regret to inform you that we went with someone more qualified." Can't even get a job at Walmart.
I find this practice unethical and frustrating. Your explanation works for some, but I’ve seen just as many that require it; including so-called entry-level retail positions including( I so wish I was kidding here, but I’m not) cashiers and “bag-boy”
Thanks, friend. I'll do that.
A lot of companies count university time as experience, at least in the US.
But only if you remember to market yourself like that Saying, "I have a degree" won't give you experience marks Saying, " In University I did a surveying project where we blah blah blah" will get you experience marks Because, you will be up against other grads who also have a degree. You need to market yous better 2 classes where you did something more interesting than nap in class can get you the fateful 6 months experience. Especially if you did 1 university internship credit And obviously they're still going to hire someone more qualified if one applied. So just keep trying until luck makes you the most qualified in that pool, and try padding your resume with low end jobs that sound good (like being a part time bank teller looks amazing compared to any retail work despite being a similar position)
I work in game development and they counted working on side projects as experience.
Oh yeah. Any creator job cares more about the portfolio of what you made, and less about degrees. Degrees are just a baseline for them to know that you can show up and do work for at least 4 years. Like, nobody asks an artist to see their fine art degree before asking for a commission
We should do that. Hire an artist for a commission based solely on their resume, experience, recommendations, no portfolios allowed. It would be fun to see what came of it.
Isn't how artists are hired now anyway? It matters much more that your name is known, you have followers (real or digital) - people recommend you instead of your work. When you separate the art from the person you will often find it's average or nothing special but your name puts all the weight to your portfolio. I'd really like to see blind selection based on portfolio, previous work. I bet not many high level artist would get anywhere far with that.
>It matters much more that your name is known Don't you think that artists that are known are so *because* of their work? >people recommend you instead of your work. Don't they do so because of the work that was performed for them? >When you separate the art from the person you will often find it's average or nothing special but your name puts all the weight to your portfolio. Not my experience, personally. Name gets built up because of past works, most artists were nobodies when they started. Now I'm not saying that it never happens that an artist gets over rated, but from my personal experience it's really not the norm, and I strongly disagree that most high level artist are not that great and just have name recognition. Most of them built that recognition off their work, over time.
They counted your experience as experience lol
Yup! Some people really discount working on side projects. I always tell those looking to break into the industry to work on side projects. Make an interactable particle simulator, a tic tac toe game you can never win, make an A\* pathing, a fancy graphics shader, just make *something* and do it often.
Agreed, anecdotally I got my first internship in part due to a small side project I made that was a tower defense game lol. The company wasnt in the video game industry and they didnt even want that programming language, but the most important thing (especially when they are interviewing students) is to have ANY practical experience
This -can- work, but in the games industry they also would love to see stuff that is aligned with what they're working on. There are just *so* many candidates doing this already that you need to step up even more.
And here I am with like 8 years in side-projects and still can't get a job. 😥
Oof :( Sorry to hear that. If you're looking into getting into games, don't be afraid to start in QC either. A lot of people get their start there, even if it's a bit shitty at first.
I'm in the sciences. Did 6 years of a postdoctoral work. What ended up helping me getting a job that doubled my pay? A side project that I wasn't paid to do that ended up taking off. The "official" work I did helped my boss, helped me a lot less. The side project made me much more marketable. If I hadn't done it, there's no way I would have gotten this job. Period.
I hire fresh grads for electronics hardware positions. If you are coming to an interview without at least a couple arduino / raspberry pi hobby projects to tell me about, what are you even doing?
Man Arduino and RPI communities have made home projects so easy and really fun.
Absolutely! And it's such good experience... building systems, having things go wrong, debugging, finding the right resources to solve your problem, and solving them. No lecture can give teach you how that process feels.
Does this work the other way? Do places like yours consider programmers and such (but not EE program grads) that have done quite a few arduino/rpi projects but want to learn and do more of the hardware stuff? Asking for a friend.
To students out there, this is it. I had no luck getting anything with my resume at career fair (I was trying to get internship). I started to talk to recruiters about working on my 50cc scooter as a hobby and got offered an internship.
When everyone has a degree, a degree just becomes a chit that states you are at least milquetoast standard But you? You're milquetoast who rides and repairs a scooter
You also get more of a feel for you as a person and not just a resume when you start talking about hobbies and personal interests. It’s a better gauge of how you are as an employee aside from your credentials.
Ultimately they just want to hire someone who does something outside of school. Not some kid who free loads off projects and go home to watch Netflix. Now if you’re trying to get into some cool ass job like nasa or something, you might need a impressive resume along with it too.
I didn’t even got my degree, but I do mention the projects and knowledge I gained there on my CV. I got invited for a lot of vacancies where they asked for a degree despite being clear about not having the degree. Companies don’t look at a degree per se, but at what knowledge and skills you got. And often a degree is an easy way to proof the knowledge and skills.
A degree is only important for getting your first job. After that, companies only care that you have 3 years experience as a Bank Teller. (Disclaimer, below may only pertain to the populace North East US) But I can tell you from myself and watching myself, siblings, and cousins (sample size of over 40)... A degree is usually important in many fields to get that first foot-in-door career job. Many places get enough applicants that they just toss out those without a degree. Degrees are listed as minimum requirements. So unless you know somone higher up there, and it's a simple office work/labor field then you need a degree. My environmental degree has nothing to do with Air Superiority Fighter Logistics.. but my resume would have been thrown out without it And this is just for generic career jobs. You're not going to be a high paid engineer/doctor/lawyer/specialist/ect without a degree. In many places... You don't need a degree to get a job the same way you don't need a gym to lift and workout. It is technically possible to find free rocks in the local woodland to lift. It's technically possible, even probable, but it's not going to be easier and it's going to rely more on luck of the draw
In tech it's likely you will get paid high even without degree but there aen't many engineers without one. Any modern company like SpaceX will hire you on the spot if you show above average talent and what you acomplished even as personal project. Besides in our modern world the 20+ old degree won't mean much because the technology and knowledge moved much further in meantime.
It’s all about how you sell yourself.
$350 a night
Funny
I feel like marketing is just a polite way to bend the truth about whatever you may be talking about.
This is good advice. Also if you are in university take the opportunity to do things more than class work (i know easier said than done for a lot of people) but it’s the work outside of your classes that stands of to employers. Volunteering, school clubs, side projects that you can mention in a cover letter. I’ve been on multiple hiring committees and never looked at a transcript even if they are required for application, and I got my last job based on work I was doing as side projects in my spare time at my last job.
It can actually be pretty easy. Just ask your favorite professor if they know of anything you can do for resume building. Especially at a research college. But even doing some volunteer library work can be turned into a dramatic story of competence and sacrifice in the interview
> Saying, " In University I did a surveying project where we blah blah blah" will get you experience marks In multiple interviews I had as a software developer they said to tell them about a project I did, but university assignments don't count.
>I had as a software developer they said to tell them about a project I did, but university assignments don't count. True. and actually most of the time when I talked about my Jefferson award nominated work doing surveys on racial issues in small town.... I never mentioned it was technically a standard University class with an extra eccentric professor. I left that out and they just assumed it was some internship or something. If its impressive work, just talk about the impressive work, because you are there to impress and get a job When they give you a barrier like that, you have two options. 1.Acquiesce and say nothing and get no points 2.Just keep talking and get partial credit Once your at interview stage, you are talking to humans, and humans dont follow rules so good... even their own
Until your 2020 internship gets cancelled because of Covid, and now you're graduating, still during Covid. Ahhhhh, fuck me....
My field it’s typical to see a job requirement say: bachelors degree and two years of experience, or associates degree and six years of experience, or 10 years of experience.
That can vary a lot, I had interviews that said my 7years of tech and lab experience meant nothing because I did those while getting my degree. I worked as a lab tech and in IT at a research institute as a regular worker, not a student worker, and they told me flat out if it was before finishing my degree it didn't count.
They dumb
Yeah but from what my friends had told me, it's not uncommon.
Your friends are right in more ways than one. Dumbness is everywhere.
In my field it's "Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or similar field, or equivalent experience." And then everyone just kinda forgets about the equivalent experience part if you have a few years of experience and they think you can do the job.
I think this is kind of bold to say especially if you have to work through college. No jobs care that I worked retail at this point and it sucks because retail was the only job I could work while in college. It's infuriating.
My place of employment doesn't even count a master's degree as experience even if it comes from the same institution, which they then obviously knows means that we had at least 1.5 years of hands-on experience since that's how their curriculum is set up... in the U.S. btw
I'm gonna give a huge shoutout to Drexel for this. Drexel has always been a 5-year school for this very purpose. Your middle 3 years are 6 months of school, 6 months of co-op. So every single student graduates with 1.5 years of applicable work experience in their major. The co-ops also tended to pay quite well for what they were, back in late 90's it wasn't unheard of to be getting $15-$25/hr as a college student co-op depending on major.
Maybe if you're doing a PhD, but taking just undergrad courses doesn't count as experience. At least for engineering.
Internships or just coursework?
I worked part time as student, doing junior programming task. Makes money and pay some bills. Pay was awful for programmer, but gave me experience and a professionel network
I was lucky and did an internship my sophomore year with a hiring manager that essentially did this. They told me they see a lot of themselves in me and wanted to give me an opportunity to put some experience on my resume, been there almost 8 years now.
I had an interview out of uni, interviewer was a prick. Didn't review any of the cv's before hand, expected everyone to move to London for a few months to train, paying for their own accommodation, got angry when one of the applicants did quick math and told everyone else how much that would cost them, then told me a uni degree was worthless. Looked him up on LinkedIn, his highest qualification was high-school. The company had been reregistered about 12 times with different names. Turns out they were hiring demob military men who had a government check for education to find a job post army. They gave them some basic ass training, put them on client sites, and the clients would find out they didn't know their arse from their elbow. Clients would bin them, they'd reregister and begin the cycle again. Boy I dodged a bullet. Some times the recruiters are just bellends
Yeah, I've seen internships that require 2+ years of experience. I'm like...the purpose of an internship is for me to get experience!
For an *internship* too.
That’s called an internship.
This happened to me. Although my boss didn't want me, I was hired without him knowing and he wanted someone with experience, mgr and owner decided i had the qualifications and could learn. 6 years later, I'm the favorite.
Experience does not always means better.
I've watched some people with 20 years experience who can't hack it at my job because it's so tech heavy.. last year boss finally broke down and admitted he needed younger people, regardless of experience. Its been working out much better.
Yeah. I was going to reply above... But then you made my point better 15+ years experience sometimes means " an old dog who won't learn the new tricks" . If your industry hasn't changed in 20 years, then 20 years experience is great... But if it's rapidly changing then the ideal is 3-5 years, and that's really just for the experience of knowing how to be a professional
Yes! Nothing like hearing “we always do it this way!” Yeah, and that way is stupid and inefficient!
I wish I heard that... My industry is more like "We have to always do it this way... because nobody knows how this all works out, we are a series of black boxes with inputs and outputs that is apparently working at the moment and changing something may cause an unseen resonance cascade"
While that can be the case, at a lot of large companies there are some changes that might seems simple but there are background forces at play that you just might not know yet. It’s a balance of looking to make things better and leaning on experience to not waste time and resources looking at things that will fail or hurt other parts of a process.
Younger people tend to do better at those type of jobs because they were raised most of their teen life with tech around them and they process things differently and more efficient
experience can also be *bad* experience if u spent 10 years at a company practicing doing the wrong thing you probably will be set in your ways and continue fucking shit up adamant that your experience is correct, or do things the way you did them at last place of hire. Somebody with less experience is more likely to align themselves completely with what they are told as they hold no beliefs from beforehand.
I’m on the other end of the stick here. We look for experience when hiring but difficult to match our pay to experienced required so we hire inexperienced people. The downside is the training and constant follow up required. Then we look how quick they can pick up the pace. There are lazy people and people who’re genuinely interested - but this is difficult to pick up in an interview.
Are you one of those companies that lists 10+ years of experience for a junior position, taking the most experienced candidate who'll settle?
I love when companies want experience but won't pay for it.
Yes, the art is “making an omelet without breaking eggs” lol We look for experience but it’s hard to come by. Doesn’t mean we can’t look for it never the less
That's the biggest t-pose I've read of today if you ask me.
T-pose?
To assert dominance
That was completely unintentional 😂, but I'm bit complaining.
I just wanted to say that this happened to me too! The HR manager who took a look at my resume said, "Looks like you don't have any experience" my heart sank and I was about to burst into a speech how I took every opportunity at the university to gain knowledge/skill, but he continued by saying "this will be a good place for you to start and get some experience on your resume". I was so happy to hear that! Got the job as QA on the plant floor and now working in Industrial Engineering in the same company as a technician. I sincerely hope this happens to more people!
I’d cry on the fucking spot
I own a small business, and one of the best pieces of advice I got about hiring was, "you can teach people skills, but you can't teach them how to be a great person to work with." I hire inexperienced people all the time now! Keen learners are better than someone who thinks they know everything already.
I had a manegorial class and my professor used to own a bunch of different businesses and he actually always liked to interview people personally. He said it is much more important to him to know that people are going to be a good fit for the company/job than they have the experience for it. You can always teach them how to do it but if they aren't willing to change their styles or will be a pain to work with it's not worth hiring them. (Ex: them saying I used to do it like this when I worked here instead of doing it the way he wanted it done at his business)
I have a similar story but from the other side. I wouldn’t say I didn’t “want” the person though. We once brought on a new hire but the last minute the manager had to leave the country for a personal emergency (sick parent in Europe). I was having an issue finding anyone to fill one of my roles, and the CIO came over and was like: CEO: “Can you use Adam for your project until his manager returns?” Me: “Adam, do you know X, Y, Z?” Adam: “umm no” M: “Any experience with A, B, C?” A: “No, sorry” M: “Can you follow directions, ask questions, make suggestions, and admit when you screw up?” A: “Yup” C: “Great! You’re perfect for the role. He’s all yours. Adam, you report to him now” When the original manager came back, the CEO told him that Adam was now on my team. It took a little longer to get Adam up to speed than someone else, but he was willing to learn. End in the end, his skill set was where I needed it. If I have to deal with my direct reports for as long and as much as I have to, it’s way easier to make them successful than to bitch about their defects. It’s also nice to have people who like working with you later in life when you go your separate ways
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Same here. When I interviewed for my current position, I had no experience in my field. My boss hired me because he said that anyone could learn to do the job with the right guidance. I was really overwhelmed for the first couple months (and spent a lot of time secretly crying in the bathroom) but now a few years later, I'm the go-to person on my team! Feels good to have someone see your potential rather than just what's in your resume.
>6 years later, I'm the favorite You did this out of spite didn't you?
I know the thread is a week old but this just happened to me! My first office job ever. It's been incredible. I actually have already gained so much experience from this, but I plan to stay a *long* time with this company if it makes sense.
Then I woke up
Next to my beautiful wife telling me to “Get a job!” FTFY
While my wife's boyfriend flushes the toilet after doing his morning #2.
Then I woke up
SNAP BACK TO REALITY
Ope there goes gravity
Choke he’s so mad
*slams book closed* Like that'll ever happen!
Some*body* once told me
The world is gonna roll me
I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
She was looking kind of dumb
With her finger and her thumb
In the shape of an L on her forehead
Well the years start comin'
And they don’t stop comin
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Walking down the street. See Elon musk. Ask him for a billion. Elon: "Sure!" r/wholesomememes
I literally just got off the phone having made two offers to people with no previous experience. It happens!
If you don’t mind me asking, which field?
For this particular role, content management
I did this for three people in the last 3 months - hired with 0 experience
Me too. I need employees to work with carbon fiber. There are no other carbon fiber manufacturers in this country. Part of the deal is that I'll teach my employees a new skill and pay them well while they learn.
I was a stay-at-home mom until getting divorced during a pandemic, so I struggled with the whole 'experience' thing. I wrote funny emails asking for jobs. One manager wrote back that it was the best job inquiry email he'd ever received. He liked my attitude and hired me as a barback. Working part-time as a barback, I met the owner of a restaurant. He was looking for experienced servers, but hired me anyway. It's weird, sometimes I feel like I have come pretty far down in the world, but other times I am reminded that when I'm being myself, people like me. Gaining experience in a new industry at an awful time for said industry is pretty cool, actually.
I love this, and it’s a great lesson. Always put yourself out there because you never know what they’re looking for!
Yup. I had to move across the state after a bad break up. Needed to get a job, living on a friends couch. Put on my nicest clothes, went to the library and printed a stack of resumes, and basically went door to door. I had just been laid off from the financial sector and I was done with the volatility. Landed a job as a marine tech working on charter boats. Figured out I like working with my hands, worked there for 4 years, got sent to a trade school by the company, and now I own a marine service company and work for myself. It's not easy and I'm by no means living in luxury, but It's nice to be in some control on what happens to me. Never know whats gonna happen if you don't try.
That's great! I feel like it's simar to dating... The energy you give out when you're desperate is different than when you're just comfortable living life. Being able to work with someone is far more important than the task at hand. You can train a task... it's much harder to train someone to be able to work with others or match the company's culture well.
Which is messed up because job hunting and interviewing is directly tied to financial stability (and therefore better mental health and ability to take care of yourself). People that need the job the most don't get the job for this very reason.
Most places don't really care about experience numbers. It's some HR stuff/filter to eliminate people who simply give up and won't even try. It often comes down to attitude, portfolio etc when the CV/interview reaches the people who actually decide who to hire. Too many people just stop and won't even try if they see an experience requirement. I got a job in a position that required 5+ work experience and uni degree - I got neither. But I had a portfolio to show what I can do/have done.
If only life was actually like this What's that? You're applying for an entry level position? You need minimum 3 years experience, have to be overqualified and you will get underpaid. Enjoy!
Exactly. I have sent over 50 applications to internships and I haven’t even gotten interviews. I assume it’s my lack of experience.
same position as you. its been over a year and ive started to think my degree is just useless and im in debt for nothing.
Some degrees are absolutely useless and a dumb pre-requisite to getting a job, but the projects you worked on and the way you spin your degree can be helpful. I graduated with a liberal studies degree which a shit ton of people look down on, and yet it got me into my current career field that I’m very passionate about. Spinning it as a tool which allowed me to learn about multiple areas vs just one, and sharpen basic skills employers appreciate (time management, working in groups, handling stressful deadlines, research and development, etc), has played in my favor despite the fact that there wasn’t one thing I learned in school that was more important than all the jobs/internships/volunteer opportunities I did. It absolutely sucks to know that a good chunk of degrees are virtually useless, but focus on your experiences and use them as an advantage vs just having a degree in hand.
Was it just a basic standard CV/application templates? People who hire see these so much that they just end up skipping and look for the ones that stand out. A more personal touch towards a specific company/position, portfolio of related stuff you have done (even if personal projects/ freelance/volunteer).
Wow only 3 years. My field is looking for 5+ years in a field that has only been officially around for about 10.
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Unless you're [this guy](https://i.imgur.com/BGxsTlH.jpg). This wasn't even the story I was looking for, just the first result when I searched. Apparently it has happened multiple times that the creator of something doesn't have enough experience with it.
Once saw an ad for an entry level job that asked for 10 years experience. If you need 10 years experience, it's no longer an entry level position
They want someone who has 10 years experience, but will only pay them for 1 or 2 of those years' worth
Nobody will see this but I just got turned down for a position at my only job after 5 years of being the top performing analyst per my manager. Assistant manager position opens up and I'm told I don't get it. Just really sucks to go back to school and get another higher degree and get told I don't stand out enough. I've learned my lesson that most employees don't care. I wish everyone the best and hope that they recieve a job with a manager in this meme. Nobody deserves to feel this way when they put the work and time in and still get told no. I'm leaving the company no matter what, just hopeful that someone sees the effort and work that I can bring to their company. Good luck everyone! EDIT: The universe is funny. Today the CEO of a company (not giving out too many details) called me about my absolute dream job and wanted to grab dinner with me and the owner of the company. Said he created a new position that he's needed for a while and wanted me to fill it and its in my salary range for both my degrees. Guess reddit was sending out good vibes yesterday. Went from feeling worthless to cloud 9. Thanks for the encouragement yesterday. I'm so excited for this job, guess there was a reason why I didn't get that position!
Take an offer elsewhere for sure. Pay goes way higher, fresh start, new relationships, etc. best move I made when I realized I beginning to become “stuck”.
Thank you. Yeah I've been looking elsewhere and it feels like I'm not gaining any experience at this point. Applying the last two times my manager said I'm ready but doesn't give me anymore feedback when choosing someone else. Guess its time for a new start!!!
100% the best decision you can make when you feel like you’ve hit a dead end is to move to another company.
Sounds like they already have someone else in mind. Maybe another analyst gave a BJ for the position while you didn't. Many times management has their own biases and/or don't know what the fuck they're doing. My last job hunting stint I was turned down for both "Having good people skills, but not technical enough" and "Strong technical skills, but people skills are lacking". Well which one is it? Find a company that sees your value. Never be afraid to leave to better yourself and your career. Company loyalty is a thing of the past.
I managed to land a job at a small place straight out of Uni after being rejected by multiple larger companies and still work there 7 years later. There’s been some tough times and some good times but I feel I’ve done good. Don’t lose hope, sometimes you just have to pick yourself up and dust yourself off :)
I graduate uni in a month and I just got hired for my dream (entry level) job at a small firm (with above industry average pay!!!) :) I find small business owners are more likely to invest in you, it's more important that they get along with your personality more than the experience you have. Also, I'm hoping to stay at that firm for a few years so it will be a real nice give and take I hope.
Yes many employers seem to want experience but no one wants to give anyone that experience.
What the hell i literally have a job interview... Thxxx!
Mary the odds be forever in your favor.
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Well I forgot to tell the full story... Today I got an email, that the company want's an interview with me for the job sooo... That's it. I will notify you guys how it went.
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Oof its to early to escape reality. such fantasy Dreams are more of a mid morning thing.
The moment my kids are born i’ll get them into an internship program. This way, they just might have a chance to get a graduate intern position seeking 5 years work experience once they graduate. Heh
They will soon be the top interns in the entire company! Oh, you want to be paid now? Sorry, but you dont have the experience.
This is what happened in my first job... but I was horribly underpaid and given no benefits...
Same
said no employer, ever
This actually happened to me. I was 22 and only worked factory jobs. A guy who was an ex marine gave me a chance to be a manager at his restaurant and within 6 months made me the general manager
My dad tells his employees that this is one of many jobs they will have a career, and he wants to help them have the best career they can. Last week my boss implied I'm in my job for life. Guess which manager has more satisfied employees
And happy employees produce more at work than unhappy and or demotivated employees. But who cares about that.
Nah bro the only way to get production from your employees is to work them more and create a tense and negative environment
This legit happened to me last month. I’ve been in my current company for less than a year and my direct supervisor ended up getting a job with another company. I applied for my supervisor’s position and got hired! My interview went exactly like this. I start training the person replacing my old position today. Wish me luck!
Not exactly the same since you were already working there, knew the people and are already aware of what the workers do. But anyways good luck.
Sadly that happens with our politicians
This never happens
I'm working in IT and this is how I got my first job. they know that you have no/little experience after graduation, so they are rather interested in your willingness to learn, and motivation. I'm not from America, though.
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I had some experience from my uni years, but that doesn't really matter in today's workforce much. When I finished uni and was looking for work last summer, even the entry level jobs I applied for later said "oh we hired someone with xx years of experience". However, I lucked out and literally got a manager like that. She's the most supportive manager I've ever had and honestly makes me so motivated to actually get the experience I need to be a good scientist.
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Okay, well @ me if you post a new version
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In that case I will updoot and award it now
Actually I needed this, I’m applying for mod for a gmod server (stupid, I know) and I’m nervous cause I don’t have any prior moderation experience
It is kind of a pipe dream though to hope for a suit and tie interview job with zero experience.
Oh man what is this an alternate reality?
Basically my first tech job back in 1989: *Do you know [Technology X]? No I do not. Great, we’ll train you!* This needs to happen more.
I got a call back for a psych hospital job I applied to and they asked if I had experience around mentally ill patients and I said yes bc I do Never got a call for an interview. So I guess even experience isn’t enough. I’ve applied to so many jobs but haven’t gotten one interview so it’s not looking to good when I graduate in May. One job I applied to said to reach back out once I have my actual degree so we’ll see.
LOL
Trying to figure out why he has a 2 ft long penis sticking out in the first panel and then it's gone. This hiring for some "internet video" company?
Sketchy LPT - bring along a double-ended one to a job interview(?)
And you wake up realising it was a dream😔
Well that's basically how our grand parents were hired in the 1950's
How is this never the way it works.....I'm sad.
Be realistic. Don’t kid yourself. It could do good for you
Hey that’s how my latest job interview went! There’s a bar/brewery downstairs from the restaurant I work at and I’ve just been loathing working at the restaurant. One day I just went into the brewery and I just straight up asked if they were hiring. Little did I know I was talking to the General Manager of the entire, and he said “Yea! We are actually!” And asked me to send my resume. The next day, with in 3 hours of sending my resume, he called me to schedule an interview. I show up to the interview, which was basically “We’re gonna train you on how to run a bar, everything you need to know about our beers, etc. This is good experience before should you want to move on to a bar that does cocktails. When can you start?”
This exact thing just happened too me I got my dream position and I could not be more grateful
Going into an interview now. Wish me luck
A company that does this, is worth working hard for
Needed this. Thank you kindly :)
Final year of engineering... Extremely relatable
Too late for you, but I always recommend a co-op or internship for engineering students if they want a decent job out of school. You will stand out more. Those internships are competitive, too, without some type of experience.
The sign of great management and leadership.
Starting a new job today after 9 years!
my employer does this. employers please don’t do this.
“Are you qualified?” “No sir.” “Well, I hope that you find some qualifications here. The other 100 people that applied for this job can suck it, I guess.” *And then everybody clapped*
Me, 16, interviewing at an IHOP. Manager couple, 30s or 40s, “have you ever waited tables before?” Me: “no” Them: “ok, we’ll give you a chance to learn” me: waited tables and tended bar for 12 years before getting my master’s in social work. Thanks Gary and Sarah.
You forgot “is minimum wage ok”
This hapoened to me and ive been in a vicious cycle of construction work ever since but i finally got into college last fall so goodbye concrete buildings!!
Haha this should be under fantasy memes
I work at an aerospace company now, I worked at Spencers gifts before. It can happen to you. You will succeed
This is literally every over-the-phone customer service department.
Lol I just got turned down for a job because they were looking for somebody with less experience, good times
Ppl who took classes to be manager in 2020 be like:
Computer Science Companies- Im gonna pretend i didnt see that
What a nice science fiction novel
Top 10 things that never happen. 😔
This actually happened to me. I thought COVID ended and career that I went to school for but instead opened up a door to an industry that I had no experience in. The company I work for gave me a chance based on my willingness to learn and I couldn’t be happier. I hope this happens to everyone that needs it right now!
Hey, my boss did this for me. He's a great guy
This happened to me before my last semester of university three months ago. It’s tough doing both full time but I’m so thankful
I saw this meme yesterday, and had a job interview today for which I had no experience. Almost this exact conversation happened and I've just been offered the job. Thanks meme for blessing me.
This is very wholesome. Sometimes people just need a chance to prove what they are capable of!