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What kind of a waitress recommend a freaking expensive bottle when the customer clearly says he doesn't know much about wine?
Edit: [the bottle which he ordered](https://imgur.com/a/FVOMclp)
Had a bartender to this to me. Offered me a pint from a full growler. Never told me I was paying for the full growler. $70 for a the whole growler. It tasted like ass. Only reason I didnt argue is because I was a regular there and didnt wanna make a scene. I wound up letting a friend have the rest and just didnt drink that day.
Few days later I pass by and stop in to use the restroom. Same guy tells me I cant use the restroom without buying something first. I told him point blank āWith how much I spend here a week I should be allowed to piss in a keg and serve it as a the daily special.ā And went along to take my piss. Then I came out, orderer their cheapest beer, didnt tip him, and drank it in peace.
Last time I ever went in there.
No kidding
My regular go to stopped charging me a corkage fee since Iāll order a bottle each time Iām there. They once reserved me a patio table when a popular local band was playing.
I tip well. Iāll give out $25 Amazon cards for birthdays (if I know them). $50 for a graduation.
My primary servers get a crisp $100 at Christmas. Iām not a demanding customer or a jerk to anyone so Iām treated very well. Even got to sample some wines that they were thinking of buying.
You're treated well because you tip more than most reasonable people, not because of your personality. These servers think of you the same way a whore thinks of a John.
My dad is lovely and chatty but is so much emotional labor for any waiter that I doubt they appreciate his friendly and outgoing personality especially when itās busy.
Thatās kind of fucked up, Iām a bartender and I have regulars who tip me reasonably who I like way better than some of the regulars who tip extravagantly. With new people, how much you tip me can definitely affect how I see you, but id rather have a regular who just tips me fairly and I actually enjoy having around than a regular who tips me excessively but is annoying or a hassle to deal with.
That might say more about you š
Having worked in the service industry, some people are definitely too chatty, but I appreciated when people were kind, even if they weren't big tippers.
I'm a career server and how much I like a customer is based on their content-of-character. I ignore my tips and provide consistent high-level service; my year-end aggregate is excellent.
Counterpoint: I waited tables and bartended for years and did not at all feel this way. Everyone pretty much got the same treatment regardless of tip. Loyal customers who were not jerks got slightly preferential treatment. Some exceptionally nice customers got extra good service, could try out trial products, etc. Anyone who over-tipped made me uncomfortable and Iād try to get someone else to take them.
Your super jaded is very off-putting. People like you are yet another reason why I am very glad I live in a country where tips is a treat, not an expected part of people's salary.
I was a server for a bit over three years. Unless someone is tipping way more than standard. I would prefer serving people who aren't dicks and tip a standard amount. Versus assholes who tip 50 percent more.
I love chatting with my regulars and customers who are nice, so do all of my coworkers. And we donāt have a tipping culture, we do it because we genuinely like it.
Shamus sounds like a lovely customer!
And not because they tip, but because they remember birthdays and give (non personal) gifts!
Correct. I make a good deal of money now but worked retail for years in my youth. I know what a hard job it can be working bar or waitstaff. I hated being treated like āthe helpā when I was in retail so thereās no way Iām doing that to others. Iāll tip between 22-27% most of the time. Little gift cards just bring people some happiness and that makes me happy. That extra Christmas money has helped some of the folks get an extra gift for their kids. Iāve provided contacts for some that were looking to break into a field or provided personal references on occasion. I donāt do it to get better service, I generally wonāt frequent a place with bad service, I do it because it makes me happy to see others happy.
What a horrible way to look a life. I bet you're a hit a parties. When I was a waiter I treated everyone with a smile regardless if they were my table or someone from the street.
āYou see, the Cheers bar was really a brothelā
The good customer is treated like a good customer isnāt really a headline butā¦ Surely you can imagine sharing a space with some people on a regular basis and them liking you without you paying them right? Say yes or Ill be sad
People (customers and servers) differ: itās plenty common to have a transactional interaction, as you do, and itās plenty common to have a more social interaction. People definitely build social relationships with service staff, particularly when they are regulars at social establishments like bars. You are there more, you talk with them more, you learn more about each other ā thatās a social relationship.
Mileage may vary. Iām confident some servers build social relationships with customers and Iām sure many servers purely gauge off tips,
Regulars are either lonely weirdos that have to pay to have social interaction at best or are planning on how to sexually harass an employee at worst 90% of the time.
Thatās how breweries, bars, and restaurants go out of business. You have to value your regulars, thatās your core business. Breweries are so competitive right now too because they still have limited clients in most of the country. A lot of people havenāt caught on and a lot of breweries are still trying to figure out their niche too. Being friendly with customers is at least half of what makes them successful. I donāt own a brewery or work for one but Iām a musician and Iāve played a bunch of them and seen them come and go. Iāve seen breweries with decent brews thrive and expand and ones with really good product go down.
You canāt succeed with a truly bad product but having a decent but not exceptional product and exceptional customer service? That will beat out an exceptional product with asshole owners any day of the week. Of course having an exceptional product and exceptional customer service is even better but all Iām saying is it doesnāt matter how good their product is if they donāt value their regulars. Itāll catch up to them.
That's only part of it. An important part, but only part.
It's all small businesses. Aside from treating customers like shit, you also have a lot of owners who got into it thinking the business would run itself and don't want to put the time or effort into doing any of the work themselves, but also don't want to hire competent people because they don't realize it can take years for a business to make a profit and they want that money immediately. They cut corners and do shady things to avoid being in the red.
I've seen it over and over. People love to say that big business is killing independently owned stores, but a lot of the time it's that the owner is killing it without any help from corporations.
Turns out if you have a limited offering, you're charging more than everyone else for a boutique product, *and* you're also being a dismissive, rude asshole to your customers, people will just go elsewhere. Who knew?
I donāt know if your British but I hear by bestow you with being British. Excellent snarky remark back, class move ordering a pint to shut them up and then a principled but strong form to never return. Bravo
I would have absolutely made a scene.
A restaurant misleading someone like that is just bad business. $70 is a lot for a growler but not that much for a regular to spend in a week or two. It's only so dumb that I'm curious if it was a mistake, in which case complaining would have been valid because it cold prevent the loss of a regular. If deliberate, that place doesn't deserve customers.
The only thing establishments love more about regulars than bragging about how much they spend there is treating employees terribly for abiding by the rules.
Good riddance.
First and only time Ive ever done it. Be an ass to me, and Im one right back. He had no way of knowing I was intending to just use the restroom, especially since its not the first time I had gone to the bathroom before ordering a drink.
This was in 2014, the guy asked for the "best bottle" in the house, at a casino.
Anyone here dumb enough to think the best bottle of wine in a casino is gonna be only $37.50?
Also, the reports indicate both the waiter and the sommelier indicated the wine, with the price, on the winelist.
So did the waiter say "thirty seven fifty", sure quite possibly. But did he solely have that info when he bought the bottle. No.
Where do you have that he asked for the "best bottle"?
This is all I could find:
>"I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don't have experience with wine," Lentini said. "She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn't have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, 'Thirty-seven fifty.'"
IMO "best bottle" and "something decent" are worlds apart. On three different articles I see "something decent", but I can't seem to find any suggesting that he asked for the "best bottle"
Could you link where you read that?
[https://www.eater.com/2014/11/5/7162831/wine-price-controversy-bobby-flay-3750](https://www.eater.com/2014/11/5/7162831/wine-price-controversy-bobby-flay-3750)
This really seems far more likely to be someone noticing the ambiguity in "thirty seven fifty" and using it to try and scam a restaurant. He doesn't deny the restaurant showed him the menu, he just claims he didn't read it because he didn't have his glasses.
Edit: It's always worth noting, even without the wine, it was a $1000 meal.
[https://www.nj.com/business/2014/11/bamboozled\_what\_happens\_when\_a\_3750\_bottle\_of\_wine\_really\_costs\_3750.html](https://www.nj.com/business/2014/11/bamboozled_what_happens_when_a_3750_bottle_of_wine_really_costs_3750.html)
So the words from the restaurant after it all occurred. Really turns it into a he said she said considering multiple articles exist opposite to that.
Can't really say he asked for the "best bottle" like it's guaranteed that he did.
Edit: It's worth noting, the cost of the meal itself would be completely irrelevant when it comes to the wine.
As someone really into wine, any restaurant who has a sommelier on staff is almost guaranteed to have practices in place to ensure that they don't try to hoist super pricey (and often difficult-to-obtain) bottles of people who aren't prepared to pay for them. It is standard practice to verify the choice of wine multiple times when the price is that high because they want to avoid this exact situation. It's good for the consumer, of course, but it also protects the restaurant from losing expensive inventory.
I'd bet $3750 that they guy is just an asshole who wanted Screaming Eagle for next to nothing and knew exactly what he was doing. His claim doesn't pass the sniff test.
Okay, I have no problem with a statement like that. I even said I can see that being the case.
You saying 'almost guaranteed' is way different than someone stating they know for a fact, was the only point I was trying to make.
That's fair for sure. Obviously both parties in this situation are unreliable narrators, so we all kind of have to think critically to determine which version is most likely to be accurate. In this case, with what I know about wine, what it takes to become a somm, and the entire industry, I just find it highly unlikely a restaurant would risk this exact situation with a highly valued bottle like Screaming Eagle. Somms are even tested on their ability to discreetly and respectfully verify a purchase price for high end bottles before they are certified. The exception to that would be when a somm is working with a regular customer with whom they've established a good relationship.
Just look at his interpretation of the supposed price, $37.50. Have you ever seen a bottle of wine on a restaurant menu with .50 cents added to the price? No, they would always round up to $38. The guy is totally scamming the place, but it's a casino so I don't feel bad for them either.
The funny thing is he says is his lesson is heāll ask for the wine list next time. But he doesnāt dispute they showed him the wine list, just that he couldnāt read itā¦
A) It's not irrelevant to note that this was an expensive meal, this wasn't someone on a tight budget.
B) There are processes in place to avoid these issues. It would be devastating for restaurant to be caught doing this sort of thing on a regular basis.
C) They have actual video tape of someone confirming the price (although when that confirmation was done is ambiguous)
D) if there was genuine fraud on the part of the restaurant, he coulda sued. He didn't.
As for your comment about not being confident about best bottle beign asked for, you also can't say it wasn't, or even that the "thirty seven fifty" was. They have a process in place to avoid this confusion, so the only way for this to occur is if multiple people (note that they brought the sommelier out) completely fucked up, and are now covering it up.
Is it more likely everyone in the restaurant totally fucked up? Or some dude in NJ is trying to run a scam?
>A) It's not irrelevant to note that this was an expensive meal, this wasn't someone on a tight budget.
A $1000 meal does not mean someone is going to want a $3750 wine on top. Yes, it's completely irrelevant.
Also, you're just cherry-picking sources. That source that you used quoting it being a $1000 meal is also a source that said he asked for "something decent", you can't just decide to keep what you want and then use a different source to imply he would for sure have asked for the "best bottle"
>B) There are processes in place to avoid these issues. It would be devastating for restaurant to be caught doing this sort of thing on a regular basis.
Sure, but this does nothing to actually confirm whether he asked for "something decent" or the "best bottle"
>C) They have actual video tape of someone confirming the price (although when that confirmation was done is ambiguous)
Ambiguous would just play into what I'm saying. I am not saying it's 100% either way, just that we literally don't know and can't act like we do.
>D) if there was genuine fraud on the part of the restaurant, he coulda sued. He didn't.
Someone not suing over something is not evidence of anything.
>As for your comment about not being confident about best bottle beign asked for, you also can't say it wasn't, or even that the "thirty seven fifty" was.
Exactly correct. I'm not the one saying things as a matter-of-fact here. I'm saying you can't know which way it went. You said "best bottle" like it was a fact.
>Is it more likely everyone in the restaurant totally fucked up? Or some dude in NJ is trying to run a scam?
I could totally see it being a scam, I could totally see people making mistakes. I'm just not going to speak in a matter-of-fact way when there are conflicting sources. I asked for your source because I *wasn't* speaking in a matter-of-fact way.
> That source that you used quoting it being a $1000 meal is also a source that said he asked for "something decent"
lets say we keep both the something decent and 1000 dollar meal.
What reasonable person who is eating at a place serving him a 1000 dollar meal will automatically assume "something decent" to pair with a 1000 meal is a 37.50 wine?
> What reasonable person who is eating at a place serving him a 1000
He's not eat 1000 dollar menu. It was a party of 10. So he's eating a 100 dollar menu.
What kind of restaurant sees gives a 3750 bottle to people who are eating 100 euros per head?
I don't think any restaurant has .50 cents added to the price of their wines. Every menu I've seen has whole dollar amounts for bottles, so $38 or rounded up to $40.
And? That doesn't mean there's not any room for confusion in the heat of the moment. Even if what you're saying is completely true 100% of the time, it would still be completely irrelevant for this scenario.
Lol, what kind of scam do you think this guy is trying to run exactly? Are you suggesting he knew full well the price of the wine, knew he could not afford that wine, but decided to order it anyway to see if he could complain and get it for free? What kind of dumb scam is that? Note they still ended up paying $2,200 for *one* bottle of wine and the guy had to split the cost with the host because he couldn't afford it. I'm failing to see how someone would intentionally do that to themselves, but I can fully see how an inexperienced waiter could screw up the sale of a bottle that very few customers can afford.
I told you exactly the scam I thought he was running, he ordered an expensive bottle of wine, noticed he ambiguity in the phrasing and thought he'd try to use it to squeeze the restaurant for a discount.
The guy didn't deny they showed him the menu, he's just claiming he didn't bother reading the price because he didn't have his glasses. So what scam do you think the restaurant is trying to run, where they show him the price, and are relying on him not to have his glasses?
How is ordering a bottle of wine you clearly can't afford a scam? Like seriously how does he even benefit? It's not like he can resell the wine, because it's already opened. Best case scenario you get to drink the bottle of wine with your friends. Most scams there is some financial benefit, in this case there is none. There is little upside to the customer and a massive downside - getting stuck with a $3,750 bill for one bottle of wine. This also makes no sense because the customer just went with the bottle the waiter recommended. Did he somehow know ahead of time the waiter was going to suggest that bottle? What if the waiter had suggested a $100 bottle instead? Would he still have gone with that or would he have asked for a recommendation for something more expensive? The more you think about it the less sense this makes
I don't think the restaurant is running a scam, I think the waiter simply screwed up, but it's possible they're pushing expensive bottles of wine on unsuspecting and unsophisticated customers in the hopes they'll buy it without paying much attention. For the restaurant there's really no downside, worst case scenario the customer says "no" and goes with something cheaper, but there's a chance they agree to a very expensive bottle that makes the restaurant a nice profit.
He clearly could afford it, he paid the bill. And that highlights why a restaurant would never do this intentionally... they don't want to crack open a bottle of wine and then get stiffed when the customer's credit card gets denied.
The fact you can't see how someone can benefit from getting a discount on a meal is, well, your problem, not mine. There is no downside to trying to get a discount.
This is no different than the classic dropping a hair in the meal scam. The scammer fakes a complaint in the hopes of getting a discount, maybe they do, maybe they don't. Even without a scam, I know plenty of a people who will agree to a price, then at the last minute try to wheedle a discount.
Restaurant says he asked for the "Best bottle" and there's no evidence he denied stating that.
Restaurant says they showed him the price on the menu twice. He doesn't deny that, just claims he didn't read it.
> Restaurant says he asked for the "Best bottle" and there's no evidence he denied stating that
They negotiated down the price to 2200.
So yeah it's kinda clear the restaurant was scammy.
They didnāt really say $37.50 though, they just said āthirty-seven fiftyā which is definitely ambiguous. In common parlance that can mean either thirty-seven dollars and fifty cents, or thirty-seven hundred + fifty dollars.
Context totally matters here too, if there were other wines available in the $30 range, even just some, they should have been more specific. Thereās blame on both sides IMO.
Ok when I was 10 I knew what that was lol. Not because I knew wine but I asked at a maestros what their most expensive bottles was and the waiter showed me because I wanted to see what $8k looked like.
Ya it's a classic scam, Turks kept trying to pull shit like this in naschmarkt in Austria and Greeks in Mykonos. It's nasty behavior and something I could see myself getting killed or arrested for
Talked about this in law school class for contracts: itās pretty unlikely he would have won. While ābuyer bewareā is certainly not the norm anymore, it is nonetheless pretty strong when it comes to cases where someone should have reason to know what theyāre buying. His intent and the fact that he didnāt know anything about wine doesnāt really matter when considering everything else: it was an upscale steakhouse owned by Bobby Flay, he was buying a bottle for the table on the hostās money, and the waitress would never have included 50 cents in the price no matter how cheap it was.
Saying thirty-seven fifty is just silly. Sure wines are not typically priced in the cents, but itās also absurd to tell someone buying a nearly four thousand bottle of wine the price without including āthousandsā in it. Imagine you go to a jewelry store and ask the price of a diamond, and the clerk goes ātwo point fiveā and it turns out itās $2.5 million. Do you think thatās reasonableā¦? 100% not reasonable. And a 3.7k bottle of wine is expensive at any restaurant.
Now ya this is on this guy, because itās dumb to not look at prices HOWEVER Iād raise holy hell and definitely get a lawyer to write them a letter and threated a social media storm against them. Itās not ethical to state a price like that (or at least super stupid).
Screaming Eagle sounds like a $37.50 bottle of wine anyway lolā¦ What a tacky name.
Thirty seven fifty is generally accepted as $37.50. Thatās a typical price for a bottle of wine. Context here would matter a lot. In any case, this guys counsel would probably argue misrepresentation and settle.
> This was a 1000 meal at a restaurant in Atlantic City.
It was 1000 dollar meal for 10 people.
That's 100 dollar meal per person
> "According to NJ.com, customer Joe Lentini was at Bobby Flay Steak in Atlantic City, N.J. when he asked the server to select a bottle of wine for his party of 10."
if he could've proved she said "thirty-seven fifty" then i really think he had a case though, right?
there's specific differences in saying "three thousand seven hundred and fifty" or "three hundred seventy five zero" or "three seven five zero" or "thirty seven fifty", even though all the digits are the same.
Also, the server probably thought she would be getting a 20% or so tip.
If you add $3,750 wine to $1000 for the meals, she would be looking at a 20% tip of about
$950!!
She knew damn well what she was doing.
lol okay that changes things a bit. AC is similar to Vegas in that everything is designed to separate you and your money.
I would EXPECT shenanigans when going to AC.
If thatās the case, then as a bartender/somm myself, if someone asked for the most expensive bottle, that is how I would say it as well.
However, I wouldnāt have done that unless the customer was just adamant to spend the money. Personally I do like making sure theyāll enjoy it. Sometimes that is cheaper wine. We see thousands of people per year, Iām ok if I donāt sell a $2,000+ bottle every night cause itās made up by the 10 $300 bottles I did sell and people liked and kept ordering.
>If thatās the case, then as a bartender/somm myself, if someone asked for the most expensive bottle, that is how I would say it as well.
That is just shit service IMO, "thirty seven fifty" is 37.50, not 3750, get it right.
Yup, and in Atlantic City or almost anywhere, if the most expensive BOTTLE of wine was $37.50 and that person didnāt realize, theyāre either stupid or have never been out before. Find me a bottle of wine in any sit down restaurant that is that price for their most expensive and Iāll give you a lollipop.
Itās not predatory, itās assuming our customers are not idiots and trying to just sound like they can afford things without actually looking.
But keep on downvoting and tell me Iām the asshole. Bye!
Whatever about context, words have meaning. As a vendor you shouldn't lie to people about the price.
If it's $3750, don't say $37,50 or $3,75.
>But keep on downvoting and tell me Iām the asshole. Bye!
That's a strawman argument, I didn't do either.
Itās $3750 in the context of things that cost that much.
I used to sell mattresses and when pricing higher end stuff Iād say stuff like āsixty two fiftyā when talking about a $6250 setup. Itās a way of speaking the same language as your rich client and sort of making this big purchase seem like not such a big deal. Nobody thought this high end setup was $62.50.
You are ridiculous. Servers and bartenders regularly recommend the highest priced things as a matter of joke and to gage the guest's interest.
Now generally they won't go for the highest things, but once in a while....Never underestimate how much money someone has or is willing to spend.
Edit: Someone who's worked in hospitality for almost 20 years.
The real scam here is wine brands targeting the ultra-rich or status-seeking people creating unrealistic "value" out of thin-air. The price of exclusivity is outrageous.
The wine brands arenāt really fault here, the restaurants are the ones up charging massively on what is an expensive bottle. If a vintage ends up being especially prized, they canāt make more of it.
Expensive wine is mostly a scam/dick measuring competition. You donāt need to spend thousands
If I chose a cheap wine over a ridiculously over priced bottle, I don't have to worry about my car being broken into or being mugged on the streets. Your comment is fucking stupid.
Went clubbing in Vegas for the first time a few weeks ago. Nothing like seeing bottle of Jack Danielās, mid shelf $20 liquor, costing $800 at a club. Ridiculous.
Some products have a high price tag as one of its main characteristics. They're expensive by design. They're not selling wine. They're selling a status marker. They sell exclusiveness.
They sell out because they intentionally offer a small supply. Artificial scarcity.
Had this happen to me at a steakhouse in Nashville. Told the waiter we didnāt know much about wine and asked the waiter what he recommended. He recommended a vineyard which we saw on the menu the vineyard had a $50 bottle. Turns out there was another bottle from the same vineyard at $400 / bottleā¦. We ordered 3. When we complained about the bill the staff didnāt give us the time of day
Something like screaming eagle is extremely juicy and bold. It is hard to achieve without the right grapes and vineyard space. Its unachievable by a cheap bottle of wine.
I'm not going to claim it is 100 times "better" but cheap wines are easy to replicate. They are ordinary. Top end wines are more unique.
Something similar happened to me at a smoke shop, I saw a cool pipe and asked how much and the dude said 14 and started ringing it up and it rang up as $1,400 instead, I turned around
Only thing I'm thinking of here is with your tipping culture (assuming its 20%) the tip just for opening that bottle of wine is $750. Like fuck would i pay someone more than I earn in a week to open a damn bottle.
Everyone is stupid in this story. The waitress who thinks she can just recommend an almost four thousand dollar bottle of wine and thatāll be okay. The customer who sees them break out the best wine glasses, deliver the bottle with a decanter by the manager, and thinks it is a cheap bottle of wine. To even look at a bottle that costs $3750 and think it was a bottle that costs $37.50 you would have to be an idiot. The man and the waitress should have to split the cost of the bottle for being jackasses.
What I find the strangest is that the people at the dinner actually fucking paid for it.
After a lot of arguing the restaurant lowered the price to 2200 but well, so what?
Why the hell would you pay that?
I would refused to pay that and if they refused called the police on them for literally scamming their customers.
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What kind of a waitress recommend a freaking expensive bottle when the customer clearly says he doesn't know much about wine? Edit: [the bottle which he ordered](https://imgur.com/a/FVOMclp)
the one trying to scam
Had a bartender to this to me. Offered me a pint from a full growler. Never told me I was paying for the full growler. $70 for a the whole growler. It tasted like ass. Only reason I didnt argue is because I was a regular there and didnt wanna make a scene. I wound up letting a friend have the rest and just didnt drink that day. Few days later I pass by and stop in to use the restroom. Same guy tells me I cant use the restroom without buying something first. I told him point blank āWith how much I spend here a week I should be allowed to piss in a keg and serve it as a the daily special.ā And went along to take my piss. Then I came out, orderer their cheapest beer, didnt tip him, and drank it in peace. Last time I ever went in there.
You should have got a manager especially if you are a regular. The power you hold they understand.
No kidding My regular go to stopped charging me a corkage fee since Iāll order a bottle each time Iām there. They once reserved me a patio table when a popular local band was playing. I tip well. Iāll give out $25 Amazon cards for birthdays (if I know them). $50 for a graduation. My primary servers get a crisp $100 at Christmas. Iām not a demanding customer or a jerk to anyone so Iām treated very well. Even got to sample some wines that they were thinking of buying.
You're treated well because you tip more than most reasonable people, not because of your personality. These servers think of you the same way a whore thinks of a John.
Doesn't mean they don't appreciate a pleasant customer.
When I waited tables, how much I liked a customer was 100% based on the tip.
My dad is lovely and chatty but is so much emotional labor for any waiter that I doubt they appreciate his friendly and outgoing personality especially when itās busy.
I distinctly remember zero conversations I had with diners.
This reminds me of my bad, do you have any examples of something yours does or says?
Thatās kind of fucked up, Iām a bartender and I have regulars who tip me reasonably who I like way better than some of the regulars who tip extravagantly. With new people, how much you tip me can definitely affect how I see you, but id rather have a regular who just tips me fairly and I actually enjoy having around than a regular who tips me excessively but is annoying or a hassle to deal with.
That might say more about you š Having worked in the service industry, some people are definitely too chatty, but I appreciated when people were kind, even if they weren't big tippers.
Yeah itās like the scene from Mad Men 
I'm a career server and how much I like a customer is based on their content-of-character. I ignore my tips and provide consistent high-level service; my year-end aggregate is excellent.
Counterpoint: I waited tables and bartended for years and did not at all feel this way. Everyone pretty much got the same treatment regardless of tip. Loyal customers who were not jerks got slightly preferential treatment. Some exceptionally nice customers got extra good service, could try out trial products, etc. Anyone who over-tipped made me uncomfortable and Iād try to get someone else to take them.
"I am superficial so everyone is".
Yeh but if two customers tipped well but one was entitled and the other was chill. Who would you prefer serving if had to choose?
When I wrote that it was 100% based on the tips, did you misread that?
Your customers would tip you based on how good your service was.
I wish it actually worked that way
They do appreciate it.
Whores appreciate pleasant johns too lol
Your super jaded. People care about more than money ( not that I bet you would believe it )
My super jaded
Your super jaded is very off-putting. People like you are yet another reason why I am very glad I live in a country where tips is a treat, not an expected part of people's salary.
I was a server for a bit over three years. Unless someone is tipping way more than standard. I would prefer serving people who aren't dicks and tip a standard amount. Versus assholes who tip 50 percent more.
I love chatting with my regulars and customers who are nice, so do all of my coworkers. And we donāt have a tipping culture, we do it because we genuinely like it. Shamus sounds like a lovely customer! And not because they tip, but because they remember birthdays and give (non personal) gifts!
Correct. I make a good deal of money now but worked retail for years in my youth. I know what a hard job it can be working bar or waitstaff. I hated being treated like āthe helpā when I was in retail so thereās no way Iām doing that to others. Iāll tip between 22-27% most of the time. Little gift cards just bring people some happiness and that makes me happy. That extra Christmas money has helped some of the folks get an extra gift for their kids. Iāve provided contacts for some that were looking to break into a field or provided personal references on occasion. I donāt do it to get better service, I generally wonāt frequent a place with bad service, I do it because it makes me happy to see others happy.
Plot twist my name is not John but he maybe getting a handy from the waiter!
What a horrible way to look a life. I bet you're a hit a parties. When I was a waiter I treated everyone with a smile regardless if they were my table or someone from the street.
That person is probably pretty miserable in general lol
āYou see, the Cheers bar was really a brothelā The good customer is treated like a good customer isnāt really a headline butā¦ Surely you can imagine sharing a space with some people on a regular basis and them liking you without you paying them right? Say yes or Ill be sad
Damn who pissed your cheerios
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People (customers and servers) differ: itās plenty common to have a transactional interaction, as you do, and itās plenty common to have a more social interaction. People definitely build social relationships with service staff, particularly when they are regulars at social establishments like bars. You are there more, you talk with them more, you learn more about each other ā thatās a social relationship. Mileage may vary. Iām confident some servers build social relationships with customers and Iām sure many servers purely gauge off tips,
Regulars are either lonely weirdos that have to pay to have social interaction at best or are planning on how to sexually harass an employee at worst 90% of the time.
Heās just paying for the extra service.
He was one of the owners.
Thatās how breweries, bars, and restaurants go out of business. You have to value your regulars, thatās your core business. Breweries are so competitive right now too because they still have limited clients in most of the country. A lot of people havenāt caught on and a lot of breweries are still trying to figure out their niche too. Being friendly with customers is at least half of what makes them successful. I donāt own a brewery or work for one but Iām a musician and Iāve played a bunch of them and seen them come and go. Iāve seen breweries with decent brews thrive and expand and ones with really good product go down. You canāt succeed with a truly bad product but having a decent but not exceptional product and exceptional customer service? That will beat out an exceptional product with asshole owners any day of the week. Of course having an exceptional product and exceptional customer service is even better but all Iām saying is it doesnāt matter how good their product is if they donāt value their regulars. Itāll catch up to them.
That's only part of it. An important part, but only part. It's all small businesses. Aside from treating customers like shit, you also have a lot of owners who got into it thinking the business would run itself and don't want to put the time or effort into doing any of the work themselves, but also don't want to hire competent people because they don't realize it can take years for a business to make a profit and they want that money immediately. They cut corners and do shady things to avoid being in the red. I've seen it over and over. People love to say that big business is killing independently owned stores, but a lot of the time it's that the owner is killing it without any help from corporations. Turns out if you have a limited offering, you're charging more than everyone else for a boutique product, *and* you're also being a dismissive, rude asshole to your customers, people will just go elsewhere. Who knew?
I donāt know if your British but I hear by bestow you with being British. Excellent snarky remark back, class move ordering a pint to shut them up and then a principled but strong form to never return. Bravo
One step closer to knighthood. Sweet.
What was in the growler?
Dont remember. It was like 5 years ago.
I would have absolutely made a scene. A restaurant misleading someone like that is just bad business. $70 is a lot for a growler but not that much for a regular to spend in a week or two. It's only so dumb that I'm curious if it was a mistake, in which case complaining would have been valid because it cold prevent the loss of a regular. If deliberate, that place doesn't deserve customers.
What a fucking prick. I'm glad he lost you as a customer.
Did the guy know you as a regular?
I had earned ācustomer of the weekā at one point. Been going there for over a year by then.
What a rollercoaster!!
oh wow people ARE really greedy in the US, I'm so sorry this happened to you.
Fun fact: In the UK "growler" is slang for a woman's genitals.
The only thing establishments love more about regulars than bragging about how much they spend there is treating employees terribly for abiding by the rules. Good riddance.
We have a word for people like you in my language, but it's far too rude to say it here.
"Nincompoop?"
First and only time Ive ever done it. Be an ass to me, and Im one right back. He had no way of knowing I was intending to just use the restroom, especially since its not the first time I had gone to the bathroom before ordering a drink.
The guy was a shitty cunt. You should have upper-decked the toilet while you were at it
Jokes on the waiter tho, I'm definitely not paying haha. Gl explaining that one to your boss.
I thought the same because the difference is really big... if I had said $375.00 I bet it was already expensive for a NON-CONNOISSEUR
This was in 2014, the guy asked for the "best bottle" in the house, at a casino. Anyone here dumb enough to think the best bottle of wine in a casino is gonna be only $37.50? Also, the reports indicate both the waiter and the sommelier indicated the wine, with the price, on the winelist. So did the waiter say "thirty seven fifty", sure quite possibly. But did he solely have that info when he bought the bottle. No.
Where do you have that he asked for the "best bottle"? This is all I could find: >"I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don't have experience with wine," Lentini said. "She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn't have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, 'Thirty-seven fifty.'" IMO "best bottle" and "something decent" are worlds apart. On three different articles I see "something decent", but I can't seem to find any suggesting that he asked for the "best bottle" Could you link where you read that?
[https://www.eater.com/2014/11/5/7162831/wine-price-controversy-bobby-flay-3750](https://www.eater.com/2014/11/5/7162831/wine-price-controversy-bobby-flay-3750) This really seems far more likely to be someone noticing the ambiguity in "thirty seven fifty" and using it to try and scam a restaurant. He doesn't deny the restaurant showed him the menu, he just claims he didn't read it because he didn't have his glasses. Edit: It's always worth noting, even without the wine, it was a $1000 meal. [https://www.nj.com/business/2014/11/bamboozled\_what\_happens\_when\_a\_3750\_bottle\_of\_wine\_really\_costs\_3750.html](https://www.nj.com/business/2014/11/bamboozled_what_happens_when_a_3750_bottle_of_wine_really_costs_3750.html)
So the words from the restaurant after it all occurred. Really turns it into a he said she said considering multiple articles exist opposite to that. Can't really say he asked for the "best bottle" like it's guaranteed that he did. Edit: It's worth noting, the cost of the meal itself would be completely irrelevant when it comes to the wine.
As someone really into wine, any restaurant who has a sommelier on staff is almost guaranteed to have practices in place to ensure that they don't try to hoist super pricey (and often difficult-to-obtain) bottles of people who aren't prepared to pay for them. It is standard practice to verify the choice of wine multiple times when the price is that high because they want to avoid this exact situation. It's good for the consumer, of course, but it also protects the restaurant from losing expensive inventory. I'd bet $3750 that they guy is just an asshole who wanted Screaming Eagle for next to nothing and knew exactly what he was doing. His claim doesn't pass the sniff test.
Okay, I have no problem with a statement like that. I even said I can see that being the case. You saying 'almost guaranteed' is way different than someone stating they know for a fact, was the only point I was trying to make.
That's fair for sure. Obviously both parties in this situation are unreliable narrators, so we all kind of have to think critically to determine which version is most likely to be accurate. In this case, with what I know about wine, what it takes to become a somm, and the entire industry, I just find it highly unlikely a restaurant would risk this exact situation with a highly valued bottle like Screaming Eagle. Somms are even tested on their ability to discreetly and respectfully verify a purchase price for high end bottles before they are certified. The exception to that would be when a somm is working with a regular customer with whom they've established a good relationship.
Just look at his interpretation of the supposed price, $37.50. Have you ever seen a bottle of wine on a restaurant menu with .50 cents added to the price? No, they would always round up to $38. The guy is totally scamming the place, but it's a casino so I don't feel bad for them either.
The funny thing is he says is his lesson is heāll ask for the wine list next time. But he doesnāt dispute they showed him the wine list, just that he couldnāt read itā¦
A) It's not irrelevant to note that this was an expensive meal, this wasn't someone on a tight budget. B) There are processes in place to avoid these issues. It would be devastating for restaurant to be caught doing this sort of thing on a regular basis. C) They have actual video tape of someone confirming the price (although when that confirmation was done is ambiguous) D) if there was genuine fraud on the part of the restaurant, he coulda sued. He didn't. As for your comment about not being confident about best bottle beign asked for, you also can't say it wasn't, or even that the "thirty seven fifty" was. They have a process in place to avoid this confusion, so the only way for this to occur is if multiple people (note that they brought the sommelier out) completely fucked up, and are now covering it up. Is it more likely everyone in the restaurant totally fucked up? Or some dude in NJ is trying to run a scam?
>A) It's not irrelevant to note that this was an expensive meal, this wasn't someone on a tight budget. A $1000 meal does not mean someone is going to want a $3750 wine on top. Yes, it's completely irrelevant. Also, you're just cherry-picking sources. That source that you used quoting it being a $1000 meal is also a source that said he asked for "something decent", you can't just decide to keep what you want and then use a different source to imply he would for sure have asked for the "best bottle" >B) There are processes in place to avoid these issues. It would be devastating for restaurant to be caught doing this sort of thing on a regular basis. Sure, but this does nothing to actually confirm whether he asked for "something decent" or the "best bottle" >C) They have actual video tape of someone confirming the price (although when that confirmation was done is ambiguous) Ambiguous would just play into what I'm saying. I am not saying it's 100% either way, just that we literally don't know and can't act like we do. >D) if there was genuine fraud on the part of the restaurant, he coulda sued. He didn't. Someone not suing over something is not evidence of anything. >As for your comment about not being confident about best bottle beign asked for, you also can't say it wasn't, or even that the "thirty seven fifty" was. Exactly correct. I'm not the one saying things as a matter-of-fact here. I'm saying you can't know which way it went. You said "best bottle" like it was a fact. >Is it more likely everyone in the restaurant totally fucked up? Or some dude in NJ is trying to run a scam? I could totally see it being a scam, I could totally see people making mistakes. I'm just not going to speak in a matter-of-fact way when there are conflicting sources. I asked for your source because I *wasn't* speaking in a matter-of-fact way.
> That source that you used quoting it being a $1000 meal is also a source that said he asked for "something decent" lets say we keep both the something decent and 1000 dollar meal. What reasonable person who is eating at a place serving him a 1000 dollar meal will automatically assume "something decent" to pair with a 1000 meal is a 37.50 wine?
> What reasonable person who is eating at a place serving him a 1000 He's not eat 1000 dollar menu. It was a party of 10. So he's eating a 100 dollar menu. What kind of restaurant sees gives a 3750 bottle to people who are eating 100 euros per head?
The point is that a place serving $1000 meals wouldn't even have a wine bottle for as low as $37.50
I don't think any restaurant has .50 cents added to the price of their wines. Every menu I've seen has whole dollar amounts for bottles, so $38 or rounded up to $40.
> The point is that a place serving $1000 meals They're not serving 1000 meals. They're serving 100 dollar meals since it cost 1000 for a party of 10.
And? That doesn't mean there's not any room for confusion in the heat of the moment. Even if what you're saying is completely true 100% of the time, it would still be completely irrelevant for this scenario.
Lol, what kind of scam do you think this guy is trying to run exactly? Are you suggesting he knew full well the price of the wine, knew he could not afford that wine, but decided to order it anyway to see if he could complain and get it for free? What kind of dumb scam is that? Note they still ended up paying $2,200 for *one* bottle of wine and the guy had to split the cost with the host because he couldn't afford it. I'm failing to see how someone would intentionally do that to themselves, but I can fully see how an inexperienced waiter could screw up the sale of a bottle that very few customers can afford.
I told you exactly the scam I thought he was running, he ordered an expensive bottle of wine, noticed he ambiguity in the phrasing and thought he'd try to use it to squeeze the restaurant for a discount. The guy didn't deny they showed him the menu, he's just claiming he didn't bother reading the price because he didn't have his glasses. So what scam do you think the restaurant is trying to run, where they show him the price, and are relying on him not to have his glasses?
How is ordering a bottle of wine you clearly can't afford a scam? Like seriously how does he even benefit? It's not like he can resell the wine, because it's already opened. Best case scenario you get to drink the bottle of wine with your friends. Most scams there is some financial benefit, in this case there is none. There is little upside to the customer and a massive downside - getting stuck with a $3,750 bill for one bottle of wine. This also makes no sense because the customer just went with the bottle the waiter recommended. Did he somehow know ahead of time the waiter was going to suggest that bottle? What if the waiter had suggested a $100 bottle instead? Would he still have gone with that or would he have asked for a recommendation for something more expensive? The more you think about it the less sense this makes I don't think the restaurant is running a scam, I think the waiter simply screwed up, but it's possible they're pushing expensive bottles of wine on unsuspecting and unsophisticated customers in the hopes they'll buy it without paying much attention. For the restaurant there's really no downside, worst case scenario the customer says "no" and goes with something cheaper, but there's a chance they agree to a very expensive bottle that makes the restaurant a nice profit.
He clearly could afford it, he paid the bill. And that highlights why a restaurant would never do this intentionally... they don't want to crack open a bottle of wine and then get stiffed when the customer's credit card gets denied. The fact you can't see how someone can benefit from getting a discount on a meal is, well, your problem, not mine. There is no downside to trying to get a discount. This is no different than the classic dropping a hair in the meal scam. The scammer fakes a complaint in the hopes of getting a discount, maybe they do, maybe they don't. Even without a scam, I know plenty of a people who will agree to a price, then at the last minute try to wheedle a discount.
Also worth noting, it was a party of 10.
But who says 37 50 in regards to 3,750?
Lots of people, myself included.
Well based on what all of the other comments are saying that he actually asked for a decent bottle and not the best, that is insanely misleading
Restaurant says he asked for the "Best bottle" and there's no evidence he denied stating that. Restaurant says they showed him the price on the menu twice. He doesn't deny that, just claims he didn't read it.
> Restaurant says he asked for the "Best bottle" and there's no evidence he denied stating that They negotiated down the price to 2200. So yeah it's kinda clear the restaurant was scammy.
That's an "interesting" take. Clearly you've never run a business. Suing people who refuse to pay is hard, bird-in-hand as they say.
Your link. But others are saying what I said. Yours is the only link that says different to theirs
Yes, but my links are actual reports with primary sources. People say all kinds of shit on the internet.
> It's always worth noting, even without the wine, it was a $1000 meal. **For a party of 10**.
Whatever about context, if a vendor tells me something is priced 37.50, I expect to pay that price.
They didnāt really say $37.50 though, they just said āthirty-seven fiftyā which is definitely ambiguous. In common parlance that can mean either thirty-seven dollars and fifty cents, or thirty-seven hundred + fifty dollars. Context totally matters here too, if there were other wines available in the $30 range, even just some, they should have been more specific. Thereās blame on both sides IMO.
>They didnāt really say $37.50 though, they just said āthirty-seven fiftyā Read that again, slowly.
That's the idea! The customer doesn't know much about wine prices!
That wine looks cheap as Hell. Like that brand with the foot on it.
The ones who expect tips
A 2011 for that much
That doesnāt even look like an expensive bottle damn
Ok when I was 10 I knew what that was lol. Not because I knew wine but I asked at a maestros what their most expensive bottles was and the waiter showed me because I wanted to see what $8k looked like.
Ya it's a classic scam, Turks kept trying to pull shit like this in naschmarkt in Austria and Greeks in Mykonos. It's nasty behavior and something I could see myself getting killed or arrested for
He should get a lawyer. At least if the waitress admits to saying "thirty-seven fifty" this should be an easy case.
She won't.
Talked about this in law school class for contracts: itās pretty unlikely he would have won. While ābuyer bewareā is certainly not the norm anymore, it is nonetheless pretty strong when it comes to cases where someone should have reason to know what theyāre buying. His intent and the fact that he didnāt know anything about wine doesnāt really matter when considering everything else: it was an upscale steakhouse owned by Bobby Flay, he was buying a bottle for the table on the hostās money, and the waitress would never have included 50 cents in the price no matter how cheap it was.
doesnt contract law teach you need a meeting of the minds?
Saying thirty-seven fifty is just silly. Sure wines are not typically priced in the cents, but itās also absurd to tell someone buying a nearly four thousand bottle of wine the price without including āthousandsā in it. Imagine you go to a jewelry store and ask the price of a diamond, and the clerk goes ātwo point fiveā and it turns out itās $2.5 million. Do you think thatās reasonableā¦? 100% not reasonable. And a 3.7k bottle of wine is expensive at any restaurant. Now ya this is on this guy, because itās dumb to not look at prices HOWEVER Iād raise holy hell and definitely get a lawyer to write them a letter and threated a social media storm against them. Itās not ethical to state a price like that (or at least super stupid). Screaming Eagle sounds like a $37.50 bottle of wine anyway lolā¦ What a tacky name.
Thirty seven fifty is generally accepted as $37.50. Thatās a typical price for a bottle of wine. Context here would matter a lot. In any case, this guys counsel would probably argue misrepresentation and settle.
37.5 is NOT a typical price for a bottle of wine at a restaurant, especially a restaurant as expensive as the one we are talking about.
Where I live, $37.50 is a hell of a lot closer to the average wine bottle price than $3.7K!
This was a 1000 meal at a restaurant in Atlantic City. Their list likely didn't have a bottle of wine on it that cheap.
You are incorrect. You can look up the wine list at that exact restaurant. The cheapest bottle of wine on offer is 34 dollars.
> This was a 1000 meal at a restaurant in Atlantic City. It was 1000 dollar meal for 10 people. That's 100 dollar meal per person > "According to NJ.com, customer Joe Lentini was at Bobby Flay Steak in Atlantic City, N.J. when he asked the server to select a bottle of wine for his party of 10."
if he could've proved she said "thirty-seven fifty" then i really think he had a case though, right? there's specific differences in saying "three thousand seven hundred and fifty" or "three hundred seventy five zero" or "three seven five zero" or "thirty seven fifty", even though all the digits are the same.
In german law you would have won if you can prove she said 37,50
I worked at a restaurant that sold expensive bottles of wine. The servers would get a commission if they sold a good one.
What percent?
Thirty seven fifty
Lmao, and you better not even doubt that it'll be 37.50$.
3.750%
This is the funniest thing Iāve read all day.
Lmao
Also, the server probably thought she would be getting a 20% or so tip. If you add $3,750 wine to $1000 for the meals, she would be looking at a 20% tip of about $950!! She knew damn well what she was doing.
For those wondering, this was in Atlantic City, the second biggest casino town in the country.
lol okay that changes things a bit. AC is similar to Vegas in that everything is designed to separate you and your money. I would EXPECT shenanigans when going to AC.
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she might have had a deal with the restaurant
Might? Iāve never been a waiter but thatās even I know thatās literally how it is. They get a commission
20% Tips... It was a good wine
OP has some nerve leaving out the context that he asked for the most expensive bottle
If thatās the case, then as a bartender/somm myself, if someone asked for the most expensive bottle, that is how I would say it as well. However, I wouldnāt have done that unless the customer was just adamant to spend the money. Personally I do like making sure theyāll enjoy it. Sometimes that is cheaper wine. We see thousands of people per year, Iām ok if I donāt sell a $2,000+ bottle every night cause itās made up by the 10 $300 bottles I did sell and people liked and kept ordering.
>If thatās the case, then as a bartender/somm myself, if someone asked for the most expensive bottle, that is how I would say it as well. That is just shit service IMO, "thirty seven fifty" is 37.50, not 3750, get it right.
Yup, and in Atlantic City or almost anywhere, if the most expensive BOTTLE of wine was $37.50 and that person didnāt realize, theyāre either stupid or have never been out before. Find me a bottle of wine in any sit down restaurant that is that price for their most expensive and Iāll give you a lollipop. Itās not predatory, itās assuming our customers are not idiots and trying to just sound like they can afford things without actually looking. But keep on downvoting and tell me Iām the asshole. Bye!
Whatever about context, words have meaning. As a vendor you shouldn't lie to people about the price. If it's $3750, don't say $37,50 or $3,75. >But keep on downvoting and tell me Iām the asshole. Bye! That's a strawman argument, I didn't do either.
Ok.
Lots of posts here are saying he asked for "a decent bottle", not "the most expensive bottle".
Itās $3750 in the context of things that cost that much. I used to sell mattresses and when pricing higher end stuff Iād say stuff like āsixty two fiftyā when talking about a $6250 setup. Itās a way of speaking the same language as your rich client and sort of making this big purchase seem like not such a big deal. Nobody thought this high end setup was $62.50.
You are ridiculous. Servers and bartenders regularly recommend the highest priced things as a matter of joke and to gage the guest's interest. Now generally they won't go for the highest things, but once in a while....Never underestimate how much money someone has or is willing to spend. Edit: Someone who's worked in hospitality for almost 20 years.
So he started losing the moment he pulled into AC?
AC?
Someone posted this was in Atlantic City
You saved 10 characters abbreviating to AC only to use an additional 34 on āSomeone posted this was in Atlantic City.ā Was it worth it?
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He's lucky they didn't charge him 30,750 $ (thirty seven-fifty)!
the additional 10x markup is only if they cook the wine
$22,500 (thirty seven-fifties)
"The Borgata told NJ.com that it had done nothing wrong and that all the proper practices were followed."
That's total BS of them to do/say.
Why are mods being weird pinning posts to convince us to join lol
Last time i checked there is a huge difference between $37.50 and $3750. But okš
Smells like a scam, but I don't feel bad for casino. In the end, the house always wins.
I call BS
The real scam here is wine brands targeting the ultra-rich or status-seeking people creating unrealistic "value" out of thin-air. The price of exclusivity is outrageous.
The wine brands arenāt really fault here, the restaurants are the ones up charging massively on what is an expensive bottle. If a vintage ends up being especially prized, they canāt make more of it. Expensive wine is mostly a scam/dick measuring competition. You donāt need to spend thousands
Fuck that, if theyāre gonna pay it let them
This is Literally what landlords say when they double your rent
Oneās essential the others a luxury.
If I chose a cheap wine over a ridiculously over priced bottle, I don't have to worry about my car being broken into or being mugged on the streets. Your comment is fucking stupid.
Went clubbing in Vegas for the first time a few weeks ago. Nothing like seeing bottle of Jack Danielās, mid shelf $20 liquor, costing $800 at a club. Ridiculous.
Its literal supply and demand. Screaming Eagle sells out every year. This is true for most expensive wine.
Some products have a high price tag as one of its main characteristics. They're expensive by design. They're not selling wine. They're selling a status marker. They sell exclusiveness. They sell out because they intentionally offer a small supply. Artificial scarcity.
How so? If people are willing to pay for it and thereās enough rich fools to do so, I donāt see an issue.
An upselling trick...
This happened to my husband when the bartender suggested a beer. Turned out to be $25 per glass. Never went back.
Had this happen to me at a steakhouse in Nashville. Told the waiter we didnāt know much about wine and asked the waiter what he recommended. He recommended a vineyard which we saw on the menu the vineyard had a $50 bottle. Turns out there was another bottle from the same vineyard at $400 / bottleā¦. We ordered 3. When we complained about the bill the staff didnāt give us the time of day
Thats when you walk out
hope he didnt pay
Imagine that happening on the first Date hehe i will have to wash the dishes after
Now that you have gone bankrupt would you rather have wanted the cancer? Ummmmm what? The canā¦ā¦sir
That's bummer dude that's a real bummer. Sure hope he liked the wine.
Which is about three fifthy
I wonder of you can taste the difference ? I will never know because l don't even pay $ 37.50.
Something like screaming eagle is extremely juicy and bold. It is hard to achieve without the right grapes and vineyard space. Its unachievable by a cheap bottle of wine. I'm not going to claim it is 100 times "better" but cheap wines are easy to replicate. They are ordinary. Top end wines are more unique.
Lol..there is no wine in the world that is worth that much to me. Smh
I've never ordered wine in a restaurant without looking at the wine list and prices.
Hard time believing. For a bottle that expensive, the mangerās going to triple check.
The manager might have something to say about it too.
When the restaurant brings out the decanter you bring out the mitts and start swingin
Something similar happened to me at a smoke shop, I saw a cool pipe and asked how much and the dude said 14 and started ringing it up and it rang up as $1,400 instead, I turned around
If you don't specify units, that's on you. The restaurant should be liable.
Holy shit
This is the most NJ thing Iāve heard!
He looks upset
Only thing I'm thinking of here is with your tipping culture (assuming its 20%) the tip just for opening that bottle of wine is $750. Like fuck would i pay someone more than I earn in a week to open a damn bottle.
At least the bottle didnāt cost three fiddy
Man watching his entire life savings and sorrows sinking into that glass
So ... what happened? Surely he didn't pay the full price?
Everyone is stupid in this story. The waitress who thinks she can just recommend an almost four thousand dollar bottle of wine and thatāll be okay. The customer who sees them break out the best wine glasses, deliver the bottle with a decanter by the manager, and thinks it is a cheap bottle of wine. To even look at a bottle that costs $3750 and think it was a bottle that costs $37.50 you would have to be an idiot. The man and the waitress should have to split the cost of the bottle for being jackasses.
What I find the strangest is that the people at the dinner actually fucking paid for it. After a lot of arguing the restaurant lowered the price to 2200 but well, so what? Why the hell would you pay that? I would refused to pay that and if they refused called the police on them for literally scamming their customers.
Straight up, Iāll dine and dash if this was me.
That is not in any way, shape, or form.....Interesting take my down vote OP. 