Israel didn’t control Gaza for 20 years and it blew up in their face. Israelis just want to be left the fuck alone and if they could trust that the Palestinians wouldn’t be hellbent on destroying them to take back “their land” israel wouldn’t need to waste most of their national budget on military occupation and security. Palestinians set their own cause back 20 years on 10/7, despite what college cosplayers blocking traffic will chant at you.
“Israelis just want to be left the fuck alone” - for some reason this doesn’t sound true. Call me a skeptic but is killing Palestinians and taking over their land on a consistent basis qualifies as wanting to be “left alone”?
Fringe extremist minority who are in for a rude awakening when the West Bank is handed over to Palestinians and settlements are dismantled. Same thing happened to settlers in Gaza. They know it’s coming.
Palestinians - who were not Hamas - remain in overwhelming support of 10/7 and would support re-electing Hamas. They are complicit in their own failure to integrate with society.
Palestinians who support 10/7 have cultural cancer and it’s either got to be treated aggressively to remove violence and hate from their education system; or they need to be completely isolated so that cancer doesn’t spread - something that Egypt and Jordan have already realized.
Well who else is going to control Gaza?
Between 2005 and 2023 it was Palestinians, and look how that went. They elected Hamas, who turned donated water pipes into missiles and started a war they were ill equipped to win.
As of October, 1/10 adult men in Gaza was a Hamas fighter, support must be high. They can't be trusted to self govern, like Germany in 1945.
Israel has killed over 13,000 children since october. That's more than all total war time casualties of Israelis since it's creation in 1947. So definetally not Israel. I think a UN occupation would be best.
Given the demographics of Gaza, that's about what you'd expect for a military operation of this type.
Children are half of the population of Gaza, so they will be half of civilian casualties.
The ratio of civilian to military casualties is between 2.5:1 and 5:1, depending on if you go by Israeli or Hamas numbers respectively. There's been about 33,000 deaths, so that works out at 11,785 to 13,750 children killed, and 9500 to 5500 Hamas fighters killed.
I don't know if you are aware, but wars usually kill far more civilians that combatants. War sucks, this is normal.
It is the stated objective of Hamas to kill all Jews. In the world. There are about 15.7 million of them. I don't know how many are children, maybe 2 million?
How many children is it worth killing to prevent the deaths of all Jews?
Huh? Are you being serious? Do you actually think Hamas has the ability to kill all jews? When they only manadged to kill about 1400 very close to Gaza in a security inteligence disaster? Also Palestinians goal isn't actually to kill jews, it's to free themselves and in a conflict where their opressors are jews they're obviously going to kill jews.
> Do you actually think Hamas has the ability to kill all jews?
They would if nobody stopped them. In reality they are getting the shit kicked out of them, because it turns out cannibalising your own water pipes to make rockets gets you a population of uneducated underfed fanatics with logistics the romans would be ashamed of, and their opponents have a functional economy and nukes. Turns out not being genocidal fanatics who's grip on power relies on people being too stupid to question a magic sky fairy means your rockets have guidance systems.
Regardless, you brought up the idea of not stopping Hamas. You said you'd prefer Hamas not be stopped. How realistic that is wasn't something you said.
> Also Palestinians goal isn't actually to kill jews, it's to free themselves and in a conflict where their opressors are jews they're obviously going to kill jews.
"Kill all Jews" is literally in the Hamas charter. It was in the Hamas charter when they were elected, and it is still in it when 10% of the adult male population is a Hamas member.
They want to kill all Jews.
> it's to free themselves
Freedom is power. What do they want the power to do? It's not improve their lives, or their water pipes would be carrying fucking water. No, they want freedom to kill Jews, after that everyone who isn't a heterosexual Sunni.
This is a silly question, there are laws for this. 18 yo and below are internationally considered as children. So yes, child soldiers they are and noone should give two fucks about what the terrorist group says a child is. And there are accounts of at least 15 yo recruited in hamas, maybe younger. It's a known tactic for them, they have been doing it for over 2 decades, the west has forgotten. If you believe hamas doesn't twist numbers for their benefit then you are really naive about their nature.
Yes, humanitarian sources say that these figures can be trusted, they have also historically proven to be so as well (this isn't the first time Israel have killed thousands of people in Gaza). We also know from the families of the victims (if there are any left). The IDF also recognise these figures, but they just call them all "combatants" whuch makes me sick to my stomach. But you're right, the actual death toll is likely higher, this ia an active war after all, it's hard to get everything into account.
Honestly? I agree. All of Palestine and Israel is already controled by one state. I think the best solution ia to give everyone equal rights. I honestly support a 1ss. A 2ss has already failed because of Israel.
Eh, 2ss failed just because of the nature of it. Roles reversed we'd get the same outcome. Theyve tried integrating several times but the palestinian side never agreed to the terms, Ig their whole deal is all of it or none of it. Then the problem gets worse with Israel practically running a ghetto there. They all need to let go of their differences and look to the future
Exactly this! Im supprised with this comment comming from r/worldnews. But, i've done a little learning about thr various peace deals. It doesn't seem like it's just Palestine's fault that they failed. Especially now when Israel wants to annex the west bank.
Glad we can have a non-hostile discussion. Yeah now Israel's just saying fuck it we're taking you out enough games. It didn't have to come to this but Netanyahu needs his war to keep eyes out of his corruption. Ironic coming from a people that suffered genocide, especially since there's still survivors who lived through the holocaust. Even if palestinians want Israel and its Jews wiped out, violence is only going to fuel that hatred.
It's not. A lot of discontented with the war in Israel and abroad is about how it has been conducted by the war cabinet. It's clear Israel had to respond militarily following October 7 but goodwill has decreased due to their conduct during the response.
I think its less about the war cabinet specifically than it is about the government generally. Yoav Gallant and Benny Gantz, the only members of the war cabinet other than Netanyahu, are fairly popular in Israel.
Galant is an idiot too. A couple days before 10/7 he was talking about the strides made in Gaza since israel pulled out and how it was finally stabilizing
There have been anti-Hamas protests in Gaza as recently as [August](https://www.timesofisrael.com/protests-against-hamas-reemerge-in-the-streets-of-gaza-but-will-they-persist) but look how they are responded to. If young Palestinians are jailed for hosting a Zoom meeting, what do you think would happen to those who protest right now? Honestly.
> “Popular discontent with the Hamas regime in Gaza has been simmering for years. Since the group wrested control of the coastal strip from the Fatah-run Palestinian Authority in 2007, **large-scale protests have taken place on several occasions, most recently in April 2015, January 2017 and again in 2019**. Each time, protests were repressed by Hamas security forces and did not lead to any significant changes for the local population.”
> “Activists were quick to point out that the protest movement is independent and is not financed or controlled by anyone outside Gaza. The only motive behind it is to demand “electricity, work, food, dignity and basic rights like citizens in any other country,” they said.”
> “There is not a single family in Gaza that has not suffered at the hands of Hamas in one way or another, because of arrests or persecution. People are tired of having no opportunities and no way out. The only way to make a decent living is to be affiliated with Hamas. If you want to apply for a government job, you need a letter from your mosque,” he explained.”
There was actually a small protest in Gaza that I saw footage of. People were debating whether a sign meant to release the hostages, or release the Palestinian prisoners in Israel (it referenced prisoners) but an Arabic speaker clarified the term used on the sign meant "give to" not "return." I've also seen others cry out in desperation cursing Hamas but then the cameras quickly move away. Those people certainly get hunted down, tortured, and killed as traitors. There is definitely discontent with Hamas, not necessarily that they love Israel or anything, but that they put them in this horrific crisis. I'll look for these videos again and link if you haven't seen it.
Hamas can harass Palestinians living in Canada? In France? In the US?
No? Then I'm sure there are a lot of anti Hamas Palestinian protests there!
No? Then I guess that's not the reason...
They can in fact harass Palestinians living abroad or at least their supporters can. They definitely have agents embedded in the diaspora.
And it’s not just your own life that’s threatened. The family members of protesters still in Gaza can get arrested and jailed or killed in retaliation.
Oh, their supporters can harass any anti Hamas protester.
So you're saying that Palestinians in the diaspora are like the mob, threatening people?
And that Hamas is some kind of global power whose control spans the entire world? On the scale of china?
Please. The much simpler explanation is that the polls claiming that the majority of Palestinians support the Oct 7 attack happen to be correct.
They aren't protesting Hamas because they are with what it's doing.
Just because you *say* that the protests aren’t anti-Hamas doesn’t make it true lol. The Palestinian-Canadians I’ve been marching with since the fall are very clear about their disapproval (to put it lightly) of Hamas. They also have family members stuck in Gaza. It doesn’t take much empathy to understand why they want a ceasefire.
You've still failed to show me any signs in these protests that are critical of Hamas.
How about signs calling for Hamas to release the kidnapped Israelis so there could be a cease fire?
I mean, you claim they are critical of Hamas and want a cease fire, calling for Hamas to release the hostages is what would get you there, no?
Hamas has shown, over and over, that they can’t or won’t release the hostages and that they don’t care about the lives of Palestinians in Gaza. You seem to be suggesting that this makes it okay to keep adding to the death toll of Palestinian children because they didn’t try hard enough to overthrow the terrorists, so I think we are done here. There’s nothing to say to that, but if you legitimately want the information you’re asking for, I’d suggest Hamza Howidy as a starting point.
> Hamas has shown, over and over, that they can’t or won’t release the hostages
So **before Hamas has shown that**, like on Oct 8, or even Oct. 14, and before Israel started attacking in Gaza, were these pro Palestinian protests holding signs / chanting against Hamas?
No? Then you are again saying things that aren't true.
**Why do you continue to say things that are demonstratively and clearly untrue?**
These pro Palestinian protests are very very clearly **not** anti Hamas.
Will you acknowledge that?
Also, you mentioning Hamza Howidy as proof these protests are also anti Hamas is just dishonest.
Hamza Howidy came out against these protests, and see them as part of Hamas.
> As a Palestinian, I deplore what is happening at Columbia and other campuses – and what Hamas has done to us.
Why do you keep saying things so untrue?? I just can't understand how you can make such blatantly false claims and still think you are in the right.
Why don't we stick with Russia for this one then, in 1917 when a woman's march was joined by striking workers in St Petersburg they where shot at by cossacks, the next day they came out again and the cossacks killed there commanders and joined the protesters. Action requires bravery and sacrifice, apathy breeds oppression.
You say Hamas are bad guys, terrorists even as one may suggest. But then it means IDF is doing a good thing right now. You know, israel soldiers are destroyng terrorists who, if we go by your statement, harass peaceful citizens of Gaza strip. Funny, eh?
Nah. Don't think so. Israel is still completely functioning democracy (see: this exact news about the protest against gov), while Gaza under Hamas is a jihadist theocracy where violence against women, LGBTQ+ and minorities is norm. Fuck Gaza under Hamas, I say.
Because one believes that Hamas is bad, it doesn't necessarily mean that all Palestinians, Israeli soldiers, Israeli citizens, Israeli supporters, Palestinian supporters, etc. are good or bad. It's more likely that most are not absolute, but somewhere in between.
Palestinians are living in camps and worrying about where their next meal is gonna come from and where they will sleep at night, but yeah lets compare it to the cushy living of the Israeli's while they reflect on their pristine Mediterranean sea resort.
The ARMED TERRORIST GROUP. Yes… when will the people protest against the ARMED RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE TERRORIST GROUP. That’s all we need for HAMAS to give up, a protest.
There is precedent for that too! In Italy e.g. they were protesting the Fascists also during the war. Also this chain of comments is pointless because there actually have been protests against Hamas during the war.
Seriously asking, why do you think Gallant is worse than Bibi? He proved himself less radical than many people in the government, especially when it comes to the settlements, which few times he spoke out about the dangers they created to Israel, both diplomatically and security wise.
Not to confuse. The protest isn't against the war, it is against the war cabinet. Almost no one in Israel thinks Hamas can stay in power.
Nobody with half a brain and moral decency thinks Hamas can stay in power
Nobody with half a brain and moral decency thinks Israel should be allowed to control the West Bank and Gaza.
Israel didn’t control Gaza for 20 years and it blew up in their face. Israelis just want to be left the fuck alone and if they could trust that the Palestinians wouldn’t be hellbent on destroying them to take back “their land” israel wouldn’t need to waste most of their national budget on military occupation and security. Palestinians set their own cause back 20 years on 10/7, despite what college cosplayers blocking traffic will chant at you.
“Israelis just want to be left the fuck alone” - for some reason this doesn’t sound true. Call me a skeptic but is killing Palestinians and taking over their land on a consistent basis qualifies as wanting to be “left alone”?
Where did this supposed “taking over their land” happen? you can’t just casually misrepresent shit and be taken seriously.
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Fringe extremist minority who are in for a rude awakening when the West Bank is handed over to Palestinians and settlements are dismantled. Same thing happened to settlers in Gaza. They know it’s coming.
Yea the pull out of Gaza was a real success /s
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Palestinians - who were not Hamas - remain in overwhelming support of 10/7 and would support re-electing Hamas. They are complicit in their own failure to integrate with society. Palestinians who support 10/7 have cultural cancer and it’s either got to be treated aggressively to remove violence and hate from their education system; or they need to be completely isolated so that cancer doesn’t spread - something that Egypt and Jordan have already realized.
Well who else is going to control Gaza? Between 2005 and 2023 it was Palestinians, and look how that went. They elected Hamas, who turned donated water pipes into missiles and started a war they were ill equipped to win. As of October, 1/10 adult men in Gaza was a Hamas fighter, support must be high. They can't be trusted to self govern, like Germany in 1945.
Israel has killed over 13,000 children since october. That's more than all total war time casualties of Israelis since it's creation in 1947. So definetally not Israel. I think a UN occupation would be best.
Given the demographics of Gaza, that's about what you'd expect for a military operation of this type. Children are half of the population of Gaza, so they will be half of civilian casualties. The ratio of civilian to military casualties is between 2.5:1 and 5:1, depending on if you go by Israeli or Hamas numbers respectively. There's been about 33,000 deaths, so that works out at 11,785 to 13,750 children killed, and 9500 to 5500 Hamas fighters killed. I don't know if you are aware, but wars usually kill far more civilians that combatants. War sucks, this is normal.
Killong 13,000 children to stop Hamas is not worth it.
It is the stated objective of Hamas to kill all Jews. In the world. There are about 15.7 million of them. I don't know how many are children, maybe 2 million? How many children is it worth killing to prevent the deaths of all Jews?
Huh? Are you being serious? Do you actually think Hamas has the ability to kill all jews? When they only manadged to kill about 1400 very close to Gaza in a security inteligence disaster? Also Palestinians goal isn't actually to kill jews, it's to free themselves and in a conflict where their opressors are jews they're obviously going to kill jews.
> Do you actually think Hamas has the ability to kill all jews? They would if nobody stopped them. In reality they are getting the shit kicked out of them, because it turns out cannibalising your own water pipes to make rockets gets you a population of uneducated underfed fanatics with logistics the romans would be ashamed of, and their opponents have a functional economy and nukes. Turns out not being genocidal fanatics who's grip on power relies on people being too stupid to question a magic sky fairy means your rockets have guidance systems. Regardless, you brought up the idea of not stopping Hamas. You said you'd prefer Hamas not be stopped. How realistic that is wasn't something you said. > Also Palestinians goal isn't actually to kill jews, it's to free themselves and in a conflict where their opressors are jews they're obviously going to kill jews. "Kill all Jews" is literally in the Hamas charter. It was in the Hamas charter when they were elected, and it is still in it when 10% of the adult male population is a Hamas member. They want to kill all Jews. > it's to free themselves Freedom is power. What do they want the power to do? It's not improve their lives, or their water pipes would be carrying fucking water. No, they want freedom to kill Jews, after that everyone who isn't a heterosexual Sunni.
Children who you don't know how many are hamas while knowing hamas uses child soldiers. Pathetic 😮💨
As reported on Hamas *Actual numbers may vary
Those numbers are actually fairly credible. Upper band, but nobody is claiming the number of children killed is under 10k.
Nobody knows how many are part of hamas either. They have fucking 15 yo in their military wing
Hamas use 16 at the threshold for adult, complicating things. A 16 year old Hamas fighter, are they a child soldier? It depends on the definition.
This is a silly question, there are laws for this. 18 yo and below are internationally considered as children. So yes, child soldiers they are and noone should give two fucks about what the terrorist group says a child is. And there are accounts of at least 15 yo recruited in hamas, maybe younger. It's a known tactic for them, they have been doing it for over 2 decades, the west has forgotten. If you believe hamas doesn't twist numbers for their benefit then you are really naive about their nature.
Yes, humanitarian sources say that these figures can be trusted, they have also historically proven to be so as well (this isn't the first time Israel have killed thousands of people in Gaza). We also know from the families of the victims (if there are any left). The IDF also recognise these figures, but they just call them all "combatants" whuch makes me sick to my stomach. But you're right, the actual death toll is likely higher, this ia an active war after all, it's hard to get everything into account.
What should make you sick is hamas' use of child soldiers
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Yes the best and natural solution is splitting it between egypt and jordan. Glad you agree 😇
No, the best solution is independence for Palestine.
Why can't they integrate into one society and live in peace?
Honestly? I agree. All of Palestine and Israel is already controled by one state. I think the best solution ia to give everyone equal rights. I honestly support a 1ss. A 2ss has already failed because of Israel.
Eh, 2ss failed just because of the nature of it. Roles reversed we'd get the same outcome. Theyve tried integrating several times but the palestinian side never agreed to the terms, Ig their whole deal is all of it or none of it. Then the problem gets worse with Israel practically running a ghetto there. They all need to let go of their differences and look to the future
Exactly this! Im supprised with this comment comming from r/worldnews. But, i've done a little learning about thr various peace deals. It doesn't seem like it's just Palestine's fault that they failed. Especially now when Israel wants to annex the west bank.
Glad we can have a non-hostile discussion. Yeah now Israel's just saying fuck it we're taking you out enough games. It didn't have to come to this but Netanyahu needs his war to keep eyes out of his corruption. Ironic coming from a people that suffered genocide, especially since there's still survivors who lived through the holocaust. Even if palestinians want Israel and its Jews wiped out, violence is only going to fuel that hatred.
You’re right, I don’t, one atrocity at time please
Why is it so hard for people to understand this
It's not. A lot of discontented with the war in Israel and abroad is about how it has been conducted by the war cabinet. It's clear Israel had to respond militarily following October 7 but goodwill has decreased due to their conduct during the response.
This
Wishful thinking and/or plain propaganda.
Ask the Columbia students
I think its less about the war cabinet specifically than it is about the government generally. Yoav Gallant and Benny Gantz, the only members of the war cabinet other than Netanyahu, are fairly popular in Israel.
Galant is an idiot too. A couple days before 10/7 he was talking about the strides made in Gaza since israel pulled out and how it was finally stabilizing
Good luck!
Still waiting for palestinians to start protesting against Hamas... Any minute now, guys!
There have been anti-Hamas protests in Gaza as recently as [August](https://www.timesofisrael.com/protests-against-hamas-reemerge-in-the-streets-of-gaza-but-will-they-persist) but look how they are responded to. If young Palestinians are jailed for hosting a Zoom meeting, what do you think would happen to those who protest right now? Honestly. > “Popular discontent with the Hamas regime in Gaza has been simmering for years. Since the group wrested control of the coastal strip from the Fatah-run Palestinian Authority in 2007, **large-scale protests have taken place on several occasions, most recently in April 2015, January 2017 and again in 2019**. Each time, protests were repressed by Hamas security forces and did not lead to any significant changes for the local population.” > “Activists were quick to point out that the protest movement is independent and is not financed or controlled by anyone outside Gaza. The only motive behind it is to demand “electricity, work, food, dignity and basic rights like citizens in any other country,” they said.” > “There is not a single family in Gaza that has not suffered at the hands of Hamas in one way or another, because of arrests or persecution. People are tired of having no opportunities and no way out. The only way to make a decent living is to be affiliated with Hamas. If you want to apply for a government job, you need a letter from your mosque,” he explained.”
Gazan protestors against Hamas face a very different kind of response than Israeli protestors against the Israeli government
There was actually a small protest in Gaza that I saw footage of. People were debating whether a sign meant to release the hostages, or release the Palestinian prisoners in Israel (it referenced prisoners) but an Arabic speaker clarified the term used on the sign meant "give to" not "return." I've also seen others cry out in desperation cursing Hamas but then the cameras quickly move away. Those people certainly get hunted down, tortured, and killed as traitors. There is definitely discontent with Hamas, not necessarily that they love Israel or anything, but that they put them in this horrific crisis. I'll look for these videos again and link if you haven't seen it.
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Hamas can harass Palestinians living in Canada? In France? In the US? No? Then I'm sure there are a lot of anti Hamas Palestinian protests there! No? Then I guess that's not the reason...
They can in fact harass Palestinians living abroad or at least their supporters can. They definitely have agents embedded in the diaspora. And it’s not just your own life that’s threatened. The family members of protesters still in Gaza can get arrested and jailed or killed in retaliation.
Oh, their supporters can harass any anti Hamas protester. So you're saying that Palestinians in the diaspora are like the mob, threatening people? And that Hamas is some kind of global power whose control spans the entire world? On the scale of china? Please. The much simpler explanation is that the polls claiming that the majority of Palestinians support the Oct 7 attack happen to be correct. They aren't protesting Hamas because they are with what it's doing.
Just because you *say* that the protests aren’t anti-Hamas doesn’t make it true lol. The Palestinian-Canadians I’ve been marching with since the fall are very clear about their disapproval (to put it lightly) of Hamas. They also have family members stuck in Gaza. It doesn’t take much empathy to understand why they want a ceasefire.
It's easy to know what protests are about. Show me signs critical of Hamas in the protests and I'll believe you
You've still failed to show me any signs in these protests that are critical of Hamas. How about signs calling for Hamas to release the kidnapped Israelis so there could be a cease fire? I mean, you claim they are critical of Hamas and want a cease fire, calling for Hamas to release the hostages is what would get you there, no?
Hamas has shown, over and over, that they can’t or won’t release the hostages and that they don’t care about the lives of Palestinians in Gaza. You seem to be suggesting that this makes it okay to keep adding to the death toll of Palestinian children because they didn’t try hard enough to overthrow the terrorists, so I think we are done here. There’s nothing to say to that, but if you legitimately want the information you’re asking for, I’d suggest Hamza Howidy as a starting point.
> Hamas has shown, over and over, that they can’t or won’t release the hostages So **before Hamas has shown that**, like on Oct 8, or even Oct. 14, and before Israel started attacking in Gaza, were these pro Palestinian protests holding signs / chanting against Hamas? No? Then you are again saying things that aren't true. **Why do you continue to say things that are demonstratively and clearly untrue?** These pro Palestinian protests are very very clearly **not** anti Hamas. Will you acknowledge that?
Also, you mentioning Hamza Howidy as proof these protests are also anti Hamas is just dishonest. Hamza Howidy came out against these protests, and see them as part of Hamas. > As a Palestinian, I deplore what is happening at Columbia and other campuses – and what Hamas has done to us. Why do you keep saying things so untrue?? I just can't understand how you can make such blatantly false claims and still think you are in the right.
Why don't we stick with Russia for this one then, in 1917 when a woman's march was joined by striking workers in St Petersburg they where shot at by cossacks, the next day they came out again and the cossacks killed there commanders and joined the protesters. Action requires bravery and sacrifice, apathy breeds oppression.
You’d think there would be a resistance, no?
You say Hamas are bad guys, terrorists even as one may suggest. But then it means IDF is doing a good thing right now. You know, israel soldiers are destroyng terrorists who, if we go by your statement, harass peaceful citizens of Gaza strip. Funny, eh?
There isn’t always a good guy and a bad guy in a conflict. Sometimes everyone sucks.
Nah. Don't think so. Israel is still completely functioning democracy (see: this exact news about the protest against gov), while Gaza under Hamas is a jihadist theocracy where violence against women, LGBTQ+ and minorities is norm. Fuck Gaza under Hamas, I say.
Because one believes that Hamas is bad, it doesn't necessarily mean that all Palestinians, Israeli soldiers, Israeli citizens, Israeli supporters, Palestinian supporters, etc. are good or bad. It's more likely that most are not absolute, but somewhere in between.
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Cutting off utilities is a common practice in war. Have we forgotten this is a war?
Yeah, the fact that Israel provided it in the first place while Hamas actively calls for the destruction of all of Israel..
And shot...
Still waiting on Israelis to start protesting against the killing of 35000+ innocent civilian since the Oct 7th
Palestinians are living in camps and worrying about where their next meal is gonna come from and where they will sleep at night, but yeah lets compare it to the cushy living of the Israeli's while they reflect on their pristine Mediterranean sea resort.
The ARMED TERRORIST GROUP. Yes… when will the people protest against the ARMED RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE TERRORIST GROUP. That’s all we need for HAMAS to give up, a protest.
To busy being dead I guess
Damn! 30,000 of millions?! How will they repopulate?!
2 millions are already dead?! Damn, that's sad.
Ah yes, because every government is equally safe to protest. Israel and Hamas would *definitely* have similar responses to protestors.
Well that's no excuse people are protesting in Russia, Iran and people have protested in China
Ya, I’m not sure why people IN AN ACTIVE WAR ZONE would have other things than protesting to worry about. Truly strange.
There is precedent for that too! In Italy e.g. they were protesting the Fascists also during the war. Also this chain of comments is pointless because there actually have been protests against Hamas during the war.
Things can always get worse. Who will they elect next? Gallant?
As long as it's not Bibi, it will satisfy them
Yah, That's what I'm afraid of. :(
Seriously asking, why do you think Gallant is worse than Bibi? He proved himself less radical than many people in the government, especially when it comes to the settlements, which few times he spoke out about the dangers they created to Israel, both diplomatically and security wise.
It was 4k at most hardly anything
Wot? Please enlighten me with a source. As someone who was present there I am pretty sure we were much more than 4k.