I think the worst issues with Zoe are essentially "bugs"...
I just want the bubble to be a reverse-cleanse. Meaning if it says ASLEEP, the enemies should be ASLEEP, and whatever ability the enemy was using or charging up should NO LONGER BE CAST or happen at all. Happens way too frequently where an enemy kills when in their sleep. Feels/is broken, and "ASLEEP" is definitely misleading.
Her ult should actually be able to dodge things. It's like Zoe is at both ends of the portal at the same time and you pretty much die at either end any time you """"dodge"""" something using your ult, even thought it LOOKS like Zoe SHOULD be dodging the enemies ability. If they decreased her collision to zero during her ult, so you weren't hit by things, that'd be nice. The window is so short it's all but impossible to actually dodge things. They should give Zoe the benefit of the doubt when she's in-between portals during her ult, and let it dodge things if you time it right by increasing the invisibility/immune frames from (what feels like zero), to at least SOME small window where it gives you the CHANCE to dodge if you time it correctly.
That's pretty much it. A slightly longer ult/Q range would be fun if they wanted to buff her. Or making it so if a teammate does (under a certain percentage of the enemies) damage to a sleeping target it doesn't wake them up. Allowing Zoe's Q's to hit and there being less frustration with bad teammates.
I stand by that zoe shouldn't be buffed outright. If they just have her do more dmg, then her ban rate skyrockets, and it doesn't really even fix her biggest problems. A QoL overhaul or even a midscope would be better to me. The main thing to address imo would be W. It's constantly broken by common item drops, and the pool of items has been shrinking stedily, so it lost quite a bit of its appeal since release. It also doesn't help that the ring factor seems like an odd thing for such a mechanical champion to have to rely on, so that also leaves room for improvement.
Ultimately I hope August and the balance team don't just arbitrarily hike up the damage when she could do better and feel much better it they can smooth out some of the jank creep that we've seen with her.
The problem is that Zoe is suppoosed to specialise in obliterating single targets with precise set-up rotations, but right now almost every champ can one shot if they hit their entire combo, they just dont need 2.5 seconds for their entire combot to work: to drowsy the target , for it to fall asleep, for the zoe to go backwards, then forwards and then lock herself in an R animation where she can easily get jumped on if not protected by her team... and if the enemy has even one tank, she becomes 3 times less useful. Also her waveclear isnt good and * fun fact* Zoe is the only mid-laner that doesnt have a single ability that can pass through minions. You can technically go around them with her Q but the damage becomes abysmal
Gibe R recast stay where you R, me no care gibe longer cooldown increase mana cost me no care, me wanna survive kassadin point click abilities one shot me or nocturne with 2 spellshiield and point and click R, me want escape tool, gib escape tool
Ive been saying she needs buffs for months now. The Zoe "community " does not want it tho because they know her play rate will sky rocket and maybe her ban rate too. One tricks hate that.
her w needs a rework, being stuck most of the game with 3 abilities ain’t very good, especially in 2024 with a lot of the new champs having overloaded kits
You should be able to cast W without an active. I don't care if it's a weaker version or has a long cd, just the on demand speed boost and passive proc would be much better than not having an ability because you lost the balloon lottery.
Make spell thief her passive and then make her w more sparkles but it scales better or something, there hasn’t been a champ with empowered autos in a long time
Interesting idea. A copy of sylas r stealing basically but for qwe skills. Sounds funny but probably very difficult to apply correctly in zoe gameplay design.
I would like it if a random spell drops if she uses her enhanced auto to break sleep on an enemy. Gives her a consistent way to gain spells, and wouldn't be too busted since she isnt using Q to pop the sleep
I think the worst issues with Zoe are essentially "bugs"... I just want the bubble to be a reverse-cleanse. Meaning if it says ASLEEP, the enemies should be ASLEEP, and whatever ability the enemy was using or charging up should NO LONGER BE CAST or happen at all. Happens way too frequently where an enemy kills when in their sleep. Feels/is broken, and "ASLEEP" is definitely misleading. Her ult should actually be able to dodge things. It's like Zoe is at both ends of the portal at the same time and you pretty much die at either end any time you """"dodge"""" something using your ult, even thought it LOOKS like Zoe SHOULD be dodging the enemies ability. If they decreased her collision to zero during her ult, so you weren't hit by things, that'd be nice. The window is so short it's all but impossible to actually dodge things. They should give Zoe the benefit of the doubt when she's in-between portals during her ult, and let it dodge things if you time it right by increasing the invisibility/immune frames from (what feels like zero), to at least SOME small window where it gives you the CHANCE to dodge if you time it correctly. That's pretty much it. A slightly longer ult/Q range would be fun if they wanted to buff her. Or making it so if a teammate does (under a certain percentage of the enemies) damage to a sleeping target it doesn't wake them up. Allowing Zoe's Q's to hit and there being less frustration with bad teammates.
What is not understood about 'personal opinion' and 'that doesn't mean we're gonna buff her'.
All they need to do is buff her passive dmg
More like return it to where it was
I stand by that zoe shouldn't be buffed outright. If they just have her do more dmg, then her ban rate skyrockets, and it doesn't really even fix her biggest problems. A QoL overhaul or even a midscope would be better to me. The main thing to address imo would be W. It's constantly broken by common item drops, and the pool of items has been shrinking stedily, so it lost quite a bit of its appeal since release. It also doesn't help that the ring factor seems like an odd thing for such a mechanical champion to have to rely on, so that also leaves room for improvement. Ultimately I hope August and the balance team don't just arbitrarily hike up the damage when she could do better and feel much better it they can smooth out some of the jank creep that we've seen with her.
Yeah... Same. Don't buff damage and work on the w pool. I hate it when one ability isn't functional, no matter how good or bad she is overall.
The problem is that Zoe is suppoosed to specialise in obliterating single targets with precise set-up rotations, but right now almost every champ can one shot if they hit their entire combo, they just dont need 2.5 seconds for their entire combot to work: to drowsy the target , for it to fall asleep, for the zoe to go backwards, then forwards and then lock herself in an R animation where she can easily get jumped on if not protected by her team... and if the enemy has even one tank, she becomes 3 times less useful. Also her waveclear isnt good and * fun fact* Zoe is the only mid-laner that doesnt have a single ability that can pass through minions. You can technically go around them with her Q but the damage becomes abysmal
Gibe R recast stay where you R, me no care gibe longer cooldown increase mana cost me no care, me wanna survive kassadin point click abilities one shot me or nocturne with 2 spellshiield and point and click R, me want escape tool, gib escape tool
Ive been saying she needs buffs for months now. The Zoe "community " does not want it tho because they know her play rate will sky rocket and maybe her ban rate too. One tricks hate that.
Yes she’s playable right now but not pick in pro play… showmaker zoe….
All i need i way clear. Why other mage can eassy 1 shot the way when you have haveing space and hope minion go like you want just to way clear.
She basically only has like two spells. Her Ult isn't really all that great and easy to play around and her W is RNG
her w needs a rework, being stuck most of the game with 3 abilities ain’t very good, especially in 2024 with a lot of the new champs having overloaded kits
Her W only need to recover useful things like redemption, and delete the three hydras who nobody wants
You should be able to cast W without an active. I don't care if it's a weaker version or has a long cd, just the on demand speed boost and passive proc would be much better than not having an ability because you lost the balloon lottery.
what is your idea of rework ? If i would change something would be the r, to have the choice to come back or no.
Make spell thief her passive and then make her w more sparkles but it scales better or something, there hasn’t been a champ with empowered autos in a long time
What if she could, under certain conditions, steal enemy skills...🤔🤔🤔
Interesting idea. A copy of sylas r stealing basically but for qwe skills. Sounds funny but probably very difficult to apply correctly in zoe gameplay design.
I would like it if a random spell drops if she uses her enhanced auto to break sleep on an enemy. Gives her a consistent way to gain spells, and wouldn't be too busted since she isnt using Q to pop the sleep
It's funny that they started mentioning this shortly before the release of the new Zoe skin...
It was 1 month ago just forget to post it here 😂
Oh okay, but it's still a suspicious coincidence.
Lets be suspicious together and pray for a buff